The real problem was not the tech, it was the biz model. Think a MAC or Linux with no 3erd part software of any kind. Or better yet the iPhone before the hackers added the first market place, that showed Apple how needed it was. You can have the best tech but you still need to know biz 101
@yaroslavkhnygin Agreed. My point (which was not at all clear) is that BeOS -- a vintage OS -- running on a vintage machine seems to be capable of running more tasks smoothly than a modern OS running on a modern machine. Also, the older programs (apps) were probably much more optimized for speed than the newest apps.
Haiku, sweet! I wonder if it'll install on my Mac... and make use of a Sound Blaster audio processor, since all modern PCs and Macs' integrated sound are rubbish by comparison.
Haiku reimplements both the BeOS technologies as well as the end user experience, but it is far from being based on BeOS from a code base perspective. The only BeOS code that has made it into Haiku are Tracker and the Deskbar (the file manager and the equivalent of the start menu/taskbar, respectively).
Brings back memories!. On hindsight, BE could have been the Apple of today. They had the opportunity while Apple was struggling, they did X86 multitasking better than Windows of the time.
One huge problems was not focussing in the software ecosystem.
I used beos as a tertiary os for a little while in the early 2000's and was very impressed with it. It was fast, easy to install, and easy to use. The problem was the lack of software available. Linux survived because it was (and is) open source and free, spurring software development projects like Mozilla and GIMP. No matter how good the OS, it isn't worth much if there's nothing to run on it.
my phone is 4 times faster than this computer NO JOKE i have a 1 ghz processor with .5 gb of ram with a 16 gb memory card running at a 960 by 720 resolution i multibooted my g2 with my own custom phone os worx great btw
How could the be os just have disappeared be os was able 2 run on only 64mb on ram and still render 3d graphics dude not even windows can do that I have trouble running just basic programs on windows 7 with 3gigs of ram and this can open like 20 windows on 64mb how could we have just ignored the be os
What I want to ask is will it run the old BeOS software which came with the BeOS 5? Also will the bible which came beos 5 be usable in working with Haiku?
Be, Inc. is the perfect example of how lots and lots of funding are needed for something to be noticed and for it to evolve.
BUT, as the GNU/Linux project demonstrates us, you either go by the mentioned above, or you fight against the already noticed and create something radical...
Beos was a great operating system, without wanting to offend the linux fans, beos was much more ready back 10 years ago to take on MS windows on the desktop than linux has been for the last few years. its only really now with netbooks that linux is really starting to be put forward as a real alternative to windows on the desktop
"ready" in a technical sense but it was never "ready" in a broader sense. Be as a company was somewhat naive and was never prepared, nor stood a chance against the anti-competitive tactics that Microsoft would use against Be in the market.
Aside from technical issues, the advantage GNU/Linux has is that although Microsoft through its anti-competitive mendacity could sink one company, or ten, but FOSS is not a company, it is a movement.
Also, the penguin does happen to have powerful friends...
Could have worded that better - not at all, good comment. sorry, I was meaning to click reply but in my half dozed state I accidentally clicked "remove". Feel free to add the comment again. (wish youtube had a "undo" button/function) and I completely agree that the strength of free and open source software is in precisely that. It cant be beaten. Looks like (hopefully) the HAIKU OS is going down that path. I sure hope so. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. new info always welcome.
BeOS got a raw deal, because others who had more marketing clout won the day. Anyone who says "only best products win and it's survival of the fittest" are brainwashed. It's about marketing and perception. I'm a techie, and BeOS *was* the only OS written from the ground-up with modern capabilities. Linux, BSD (and thus Mac OS X), Windows, had the functionality retroactively written in. BeOS's compatible h/w wasn't high, but it made far better use of the h/w to be sure.
@HypnoToad72 Mac OS X has very little of BSD components, most of them are in userspace. Core technologies like I/O Kit, Cocoa, LLVM/Clang and Quartz are much newer than any of BeOS.
@ukclear Two years have passed: netbooks are dying off, GNU/Linux distributions have the same market share. Nothing changed, FOSS is stagnating like Apple in 90s. I hope Haiku will change the game.
what happened to BeOS HQ? O_O
pefu1906 1 month ago
The hype around BeOS and Haiku reminds me of Apple zealotry, if not something even worse.
yaroslavkhnygin 1 month ago
Holy crap thats awesome! I hear that BeOS is still around. where can i get a Copy?
static1994 1 month ago
2:35
OMG it's Chuck Norris! No wonder it disappeared...
kyoko277 1 month ago
that monitor looks vintage - 1988 maybe?
hd4ms 2 months ago
The real problem was not the tech, it was the biz model. Think a MAC or Linux with no 3erd part software of any kind. Or better yet the iPhone before the hackers added the first market place, that showed Apple how needed it was. You can have the best tech but you still need to know biz 101
TheShowThatSUX 2 months ago
do they really have turn around like that all the time when they are going say something = P
KaxiLaxi 3 months ago
Thank god Apple's choice was NeXTSTEP and not this garbage.
felizago 4 months ago
A real shame. Puts Linux and Windows to shame. It looks far more responsive than Ubuntu and Win 7 on my 4 core, 3.2 GHz machine!
mikeunavailable 5 months ago
@mikeunavailable Every vintage OS will run "far more responsive than Ubuntu and Win 7" on your machine.
yaroslavkhnygin 1 month ago
@yaroslavkhnygin Agreed. My point (which was not at all clear) is that BeOS -- a vintage OS -- running on a vintage machine seems to be capable of running more tasks smoothly than a modern OS running on a modern machine. Also, the older programs (apps) were probably much more optimized for speed than the newest apps.
mikeunavailable 1 month ago
@mikeunavailable OK, try to watch YouTube in BeOS. ;)
yaroslavkhnygin 1 month ago
Haiku, sweet! I wonder if it'll install on my Mac... and make use of a Sound Blaster audio processor, since all modern PCs and Macs' integrated sound are rubbish by comparison.
HypnoToad72 6 months ago
@HypnoToad72 Is Haiku based on BeOS then?
Haiku reimplements both the BeOS technologies as well as the end user experience, but it is far from being based on BeOS from a code base perspective. The only BeOS code that has made it into Haiku are Tracker and the Deskbar (the file manager and the equivalent of the start menu/taskbar, respectively).
MrDemilord 2 months ago
8 processors?!?! Wow we've come far.
Yimi97 6 months ago
Brings back memories!. On hindsight, BE could have been the Apple of today. They had the opportunity while Apple was struggling, they did X86 multitasking better than Windows of the time.
One huge problems was not focussing in the software ecosystem.
fteoOpty64 6 months ago
BeOS is BACK as Haiku!
AdamantSystems 7 months ago
They had the domain name be.com. Pretty awesome.
McVaio 7 months ago
I used beos as a tertiary os for a little while in the early 2000's and was very impressed with it. It was fast, easy to install, and easy to use. The problem was the lack of software available. Linux survived because it was (and is) open source and free, spurring software development projects like Mozilla and GIMP. No matter how good the OS, it isn't worth much if there's nothing to run on it.
alfredklek 7 months ago
I'm currently installing Haiku to a pen-drive. Can't wait!
OldTimeyJunk 9 months ago
The music at the start is one of the free mp3 samples that *came* with the BeOS..don't recall it's name though
sgdeluxedoc 11 months ago
my phone is 4 times faster than this computer NO JOKE i have a 1 ghz processor with .5 gb of ram with a 16 gb memory card running at a 960 by 720 resolution i multibooted my g2 with my own custom phone os worx great btw
mjfisher97 1 year ago
dose aney know about the music at the start?
asinine304 1 year ago
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asinine304 1 year ago
What's with the bike around 3:00?
Paspiedreamcast 1 year ago
How could the be os just have disappeared be os was able 2 run on only 64mb on ram and still render 3d graphics dude not even windows can do that I have trouble running just basic programs on windows 7 with 3gigs of ram and this can open like 20 windows on 64mb how could we have just ignored the be os
manny9567 1 year ago
What I want to ask is will it run the old BeOS software which came with the BeOS 5? Also will the bible which came beos 5 be usable in working with Haiku?
semco72057 1 year ago
"the linux of a/v". So wildly unpopular outside of the server market due to absolutely no marketing, and questionable UI designs?
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
Director of marketing Be Inc. Okay, now we know who screwed up with the marketing of BeOS lol.
Good video, man. I loooove the old days :D
vbobkovsky 1 year ago
@FredMayX2
The guy who founded Be, Jean-Louis Gassée was ex-Apple...
jren57 1 year ago
Is it still downloadable? Can I try it under QEMU? Any mirror?
nekro56 2 years ago
@nekro56 Look up Haiku its the current version.
compactc9 1 year ago
Be, Inc. is the perfect example of how lots and lots of funding are needed for something to be noticed and for it to evolve.
BUT, as the GNU/Linux project demonstrates us, you either go by the mentioned above, or you fight against the already noticed and create something radical...
sagadiablo 2 years ago
I think HAIKU OS has even (just recently) reached alpha stage in developement
gunthaarz 2 years ago 3
Nope. It lives on as the Operating system now named HAIKU
gunthaarz 2 years ago 2
Is that UNIX based?
hrbear 1 year ago
as dead as QNX
cobrachoppergirl 2 years ago
Be fated to oblivion
cobrachoppergirl 2 years ago
Which year is that? Before Jobs came back to Apple with the OpenSTEP or after? Dual PII indicate a year between 1997 and 1998.
inzMBL 2 years ago 2
Looks like a mix between Mac OS and Windows
bl0ckeduser 2 years ago
I've always been an Amiga fan, but it is sad that BeOS never took off.
nickmctrick 2 years ago 2
this is great, I may have to build an old and get my BeOs discs out...
HeadshotZod 2 years ago 2
Beos was a great operating system, without wanting to offend the linux fans, beos was much more ready back 10 years ago to take on MS windows on the desktop than linux has been for the last few years. its only really now with netbooks that linux is really starting to be put forward as a real alternative to windows on the desktop
ukclear 2 years ago 15
"ready" in a technical sense but it was never "ready" in a broader sense. Be as a company was somewhat naive and was never prepared, nor stood a chance against the anti-competitive tactics that Microsoft would use against Be in the market.
Aside from technical issues, the advantage GNU/Linux has is that although Microsoft through its anti-competitive mendacity could sink one company, or ten, but FOSS is not a company, it is a movement.
Also, the penguin does happen to have powerful friends...
Keruaran 2 years ago 3
Could have worded that better - not at all, good comment. sorry, I was meaning to click reply but in my half dozed state I accidentally clicked "remove". Feel free to add the comment again. (wish youtube had a "undo" button/function) and I completely agree that the strength of free and open source software is in precisely that. It cant be beaten. Looks like (hopefully) the HAIKU OS is going down that path. I sure hope so. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. new info always welcome.
gunthaarz 2 years ago
@ukclear
I'm a die hard Linux fan and i totally agree with you.
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SlashWannabe94 10 months ago
@ukclear
I'm a die hard Linux fan and i totally agree with you.
SlashWannabe94 10 months ago
@ukclear - agreed!
BeOS got a raw deal, because others who had more marketing clout won the day. Anyone who says "only best products win and it's survival of the fittest" are brainwashed. It's about marketing and perception. I'm a techie, and BeOS *was* the only OS written from the ground-up with modern capabilities. Linux, BSD (and thus Mac OS X), Windows, had the functionality retroactively written in. BeOS's compatible h/w wasn't high, but it made far better use of the h/w to be sure.
HypnoToad72 6 months ago
@HypnoToad72 Mac OS X has very little of BSD components, most of them are in userspace. Core technologies like I/O Kit, Cocoa, LLVM/Clang and Quartz are much newer than any of BeOS.
yaroslavkhnygin 1 month ago
@ukclear Two years have passed: netbooks are dying off, GNU/Linux distributions have the same market share. Nothing changed, FOSS is stagnating like Apple in 90s. I hope Haiku will change the game.
yaroslavkhnygin 1 month ago