look up "Edgar Casey" with extra ordinary powers to predict the future.
Many people have the ability to know the future or gain/access information throu other cultures simply by having the right contacts. It does not mean that they are Prophets and have been chosen by a God.
"Edgar Casey" was a simple man, and only wanted to help fellow man, BUT other people GAVE HIM the title of Prophet-hood. I think it goes the same with Muhammad.
Muhammad insisted of reminding people of Christianity in many verses of the Quran, yet Arabs took it the wrong way.
He (Muhammad) even spoke of being possessed by demons at some point, A Condition where Allah failed to produce identity at 1st introduction.
Hahahahahah! What utter bullshit. The reason why a man cannot give birth to a child is biological and well understood. Saying that "a man cannot give birth to a child BY DEFINITION" is erroneous and idiotic. It's not "by definition". It's a consequence of several biological factors. Thus, the parallel to god being uncreated "by definition" does not hold. You just assert that god is uncreated by definition. That's not evidence! What a moron.
Lmfao, persianwiseman, you idiot, why don't you fucking leave huh? and a reply to one of the comments, when you said that no one knows where did gravity originate from and why is it not mentioned in the Quran
1-Quran says Allah is the creator of everything lol, (human minds are no match for his)
2-How many lines are you gonna put in one book huh? It is a book to guide humanity not a book to tell hoes about astronomy and astrology!
@PersianWiseMan1 Trust me, your presence does not make me nervous, it just gets me annoyed, with all your ":)D" signs all over, I said it before and I'll say it again; the Quran was here to guide human beings, it has science but to a medium level, but I have to agree its not easy to tell an atheist what to do, since all they say is "God doesn't exist"+Can you tell me how did prophet Muhammad know about the Illuminati before it was even formed?, please don't say Illuminati doesn't exist.
Look buddy, i have no argument with your religion, IF you provide sufficient proof of the existence of your GOD, But it must be a solid proof and not just speculation. capiche??
"The Quran was here to guide human beings"? lol, We have a system for guiding Human beings, and it is called SCHOOL. :)D
You want to know how Muhammad new about things? Well i will be more than happy to tell you how......
Zakir Naik must have come up with that ingenious analogy and reasoning while taking a shit.A person who claims to be a professor, should surely come up with a better answer than that. Still laughing at him.
The level of manipulation involved in these kinds of things are always impressive. Just look at how he works to ridicule a perfectly reasonable line of questioning. How he gets the crowd riled up against the thought of it, how he cements the fact in their mind that it is faulty without even addressing it at all. Then, when he finally gets around to it, he is free to make a statement of fact without having to substantiate it
Apologists never deal in facts, only in charm and wordcraft.
This was by far the most retarded answer given by this pseudo-scholar. And that's saying something - Considering his knowledge of everything worldly is insufficient, to be polite and wrong, to be frank.
@PersianWiseMan1 What I meant by saying "we are NOTHING" was against God we are nothing, and how can we tell that Earthlings are the only form of intelligent life out there huh? *100 billion stars, each with at least one planet* Come on now? Doesn't that show you anything?
Again: You can not say or make that statement hence you are NOT ABLE to compare the two. You will need to have both facts and data present to make such "absurd" comments.
Booo hoooo I shall remain lost and ignorant for the rest of my life in this world, only "Islam" will make my intelligent, :)D coughing, cough , cough , cough..... :)D
I will give you my share of Khoms and zakat, so i can go to Paradise, Drink from the rivers of milk and honey, and oh yeaaaaa, the 72 Virgins. :)D
But wait, this is not the desert, we have Milk and honey available. :)
One question You need to be asking is WHO created Satan?
If God is "all knowing", why did it not know the trouble Satan will be causing when humanity was created.
If this is a test for mankind, Test are ONLY given when the teacher/examiner is unaware of the knowledge and faith of the humankind/student so therefore GOD is NOT "All knowing", hence it does not Know, what's in the hearts of ALL MEN.
@PersianWiseMan1 You and 'sarabification' are such ignorant atheists. I was just checking out the nonsense that you both were spitting out from your unclean mouths. I guess it can't be helped. Allah(SWT) did say that their will be some people who will be deaf, dumb and blind. Now I know what this meant. The proof that God exists is that you exist and I exist. What wrong with you? Are you that deluded and ignorant!? I'll provide you with a useful source.../kaheel7.com/eng/
If you say allah created all creatures and everything, so it created me as well.(If your theory is true), Was it NOT your God, who put the seal on my heart and ears and eyes? if yes, then you have a dumb Arse for a God.
@PersianWiseMan1 Haha,Your stupidity still seems to amuse me quite ironically actually! I guess what I had said previously was true. Atheists like you ARE morons with small minds! Even though,if it be that Allah(SWT) did seal your ears and eyes from the truth.Then its a muslim's duty to remove the seal as we have been obliged to do so. Whether we succeed or not will depend on the will of Allah(SWT) as long as we have trust and faith, we'll be rewarded. Maybe you'll never learn!?
@PersianWiseMan1 Well suit yourself. If you should remain lost and ignorant for the rest of your life in this world, then so be it. I not upset though since I'll still get the other half of the reward. The other half would have been given to you but to bad since you don't intend to accept it.
@PersianWiseMan1 The only reward you'll get will be in hellfire! I think i'm done talking with you now Persian'Foolish'Man1. You just don't give up! It's like your asking for the punishment! Laugh all you want now but pretty soon those laughs will turn into cries and screems. And don't even bother writing back because I've given up on ignorant and brainless atheists like you! I hope that you live to realize the truth.
Oh, so your Allah does not work based on cash and carry?!!! :)D
How do i know that, i will be rewarded afterlife? After all i have spent a lifetime support on donations to Mecca and Medina, and the Masjids and the shaykhs and Immams and Mullahs.??
So there are no guarantees huh? EMPTY WORDS?
I Guess it from day one mate. go get yourself a reputable God, cause your Allah is bankrupt. :)D
No need to be begging. If God wanted me to be religious, it would have told me so, I don't need a half ass Muslim to tell me what to do or what to fear hence you have no clue yourself.
Day of Judgement is for uneducated people like you. I don't fear from it.
What is there to follow, Go work your ass off and give money to Mecca and Medina (basically to the Shaikh and Immams), build more Masjids with our money to collect more?
"He has laid down for you the way of life and which commended to Harry potter, which enjoined on you, and which bequeathed to santa claus, pink unicorn and leprauchans ,.. ..."
SAY: "O YOU rejectors, I do not worship what you worship, Nor do you worship who I worship, Nor will I worship what you worship, Nor will you worship who I worship: To you your way, to me my way
2nd, if Allah wanted everyone to worship him, he would show his face and make individual connections, not send a mailman(messenger) .
Last but nor least, if you worship what you worship, then keep ir in your own TENT, as WE do NOT want to hear, what you worship, for all i care, you could be worshiping Satan. who knows?
@PersianWiseMan1 Worship means following. Allah only is worthy of following (verse 10:35) Following his message is following him. Everyone has right to reject. If one follows Allah, it is for his benefit and when rejects, rejects at his own risk.
@PersianWiseMan1 Why cranky? Even PersianStupidestMan1 is neither cranky nor cracky. Follow whatever you like. It is your life. Waste it in any manner you like. لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
He has laid down for you the (same) way of life and belief which He had commended to Noah, and which We have enjoined on you, and which We had bequeathed to Abraham, Moses and Jesus, so that they should maintain the order and not be divided among themselves. Heavy is to idolaters what you invite them to. God chooses whom He please for Himself, and guides to Himself whoever turns to Him. 42:13
Arguing with the religious is like hitting your head with the wall ! they are TOO delusional . At best , you can provide them with reason and perhaps hopefully , they may become skeptical about their own faith !
Well, they only balance out, Those people who believe in Islam ONLY grows amongst the uneducated ones, But you need to realize that, at the same time, they are loosing their own Muslims in their own backyard, AFRICA.
It takes a while for the newly converted to realize that it is a BOGUS religion.
I MEAN JUST LOOK at the audience there laughing when he tricks the guy ( as always ) with the question of john gave birth to a boy or a girl ?
And LOOK at the gullible audience there laughing ! It shows their own intellect !
Zakir Naik CANNOT answer the question of "who created God ?" because it immediately opens a pandora's box . Then , who created the "creator of god?" and so on .
If Zakir Naik can say "god existed forever" , then why cannot "universe has existed forever"?
Yo scumbag? If i don't believe in your Allah, it is of treason to your Allah and is being as Materialistic?!!!
Seriously, is this how you plan to unveil the truth? Is it really important for you to LIE and deceive humanity to bring forth a bogus religion such as Islam?
@PersianWiseMan1 Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
Such desperate measures, ONLY conveys your defeat to us, But what is really sad is that you need such attempts to make an argument win, rather than proving the Existence of your Allah.!!!
DO NOT Expect us to view any of your debates, as it will be discarded as trash., and your screen name WIKK be blocked from our/my black list.
@PersianWiseMan1 Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
@PersianWiseMan1 If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
@PersianWiseMan1 Allah is my creator as well as yours. He even created fantasy, therefore fantasy is a part of his creation. How can you say that the creator is a creation? It makes no sense! Small minded people like yourself exist, it's not unusual. "Faith is not real, it is merely a Fiction or make belief" - you. Indeed people with intellect understand that there is a creator and we are his creation. People like you, simply live life based on preconceptions. Realise the truth!
@PersianWiseMan1 One thing I want to ask you. If this task is simple, why are you asking me? I think it's time to change your username if it's possible. :D And please don't consider me as a 'big head' as I have no intention of boasting about being perfect since no one is perfect except Allah(SWT). Alhamdulillah, but I will help you out in what you're asking me as long as you benefit from it. I will answer your question on your personal messages since it will be too long here.
PersianWiseMan1 , Well I never said that just because an acid was discovered by a Muslim it means Islam has to do with it, you are up to the logic that if you don't get a logic then that logic is wrong haha:) such a punk. Test your religion and then come to us, we don't have doubts in our religion you have, we don't have ten forms of our BOOK you have, we don't have new and old testaments you have. So get a life and take your loser butt out here senseless.
@PersianWiseMan1 Your idea of God taken from the stupid Christianity, which depicts God in human beings or made up of materials.God Can not be made up of materials or Energy created by him idiot! God is not affected by the physical and temporal factors of the universe because God outside the universe and Above all thing.about the laws I told you they prove that the universe has age and will die after a period and before it there was nothing,
LOL @ your Mentality. You have no bases of "God's" existence if it was not mentioned in the Bible, NO WHERE in the Quran refers to the origin of God, but was taken from the Bible. ha ha ha ha
As it says in the Bible, so says God, "I Created you in my Image".
@PersianWiseMan1 nothing can not be something without cause The cause is God,
ALLAH is Arabic name meaning THE GOD,Mohammed did not come up with new god. Read the Qur'an and scientific miracles of the Quran to know that Islam is the true religion.
there is nothing like God,and we do not know anything but what he tells us about himself.
I will not answer you anymore because you are obviously a Shallow man and a one does not know what to do in his life.
See i don't want to argue with a person who takes offense by rejecting their faith.
It does not mean that i accepted your illogical answers and without a proof.
" My idea of God taken from the stupid Christianity?"!!!!! Isn't your religion BASED on Christianity? The Quran mention "maryam" mother of Jesus many many times, in fact a whole chapter is dedicated to her.
@PersianWiseMan1 haha... see I proved my point now you are just jumping around with no logic. You are misguided and illiterate cunt. Just go and study some useful things instead arguing uselessly ... idiot little kiddish baby...
The Creator of the universe cannot be preceded by non-existence; otherwise, He would need another god to create Him; and that god, if he is preceded by non-existence, would need another god and so on. Thus, we would have an endless chain of gods without reaching a **causeless cause** to be the source of the existence of the universe.
Then we have to deny the existence of the universe. We would also have to deny ourselves because we are a part of the universe.
Mankind had a vast knowledge of matter, Science and math way before Islam some 4000 before, but no one has the ability or the documentation of their origins, Did Allah told the humanity about them too?
Gavrinis Tomb clip is one of Many unexplained phenomenon, One can not link EVERYTHING unexplained to Allah.
Can you get that through your thick heads? watch?v=KImfaDrhhVk Gavrinis Tomb
@PersianWiseMan1 You are surely out of the right way. Who told you that every scientific phenomena is written in the Quran. Muslims believe that any scientific phenomena mentioned in the Quran is and will be correct. No one is idiot like you that he/she starts finding the 'EM-theory, Amount of Electrons in a hydrogen atom, E=mc^2 explanation, or Newtons laws in Quran'. You are misguided nothing else, go spend some time with good people instead watching idiotic videos on youtube atheist.
Shall i explain the four basic forces of the universe, so you could link them to your Allah?
Cause we all know, NO ONE knows the origin of the Gravitation forces in the universe, maybe it is mention in the Quran. But wait, there is no such thing. So how the hell your Allah mentions about a blood cloth but not the origins of its entity?
@PersianWiseMan1 Told you, you are an idiot. Our science is not capable enough to answer such a basic question and you ask it to explain the existence of GOD? yes you are an idiot. Similar idiot like you was Dr.William Campbel and he was proven wrong watch the video, OK and btw let me tell you one thing, Quran is the book of religion, they are many things which are told in it and they were already defined and many things were told which weren't discovered at that time and were discovered it now
@PersianWiseMan1 We can explain and will always explain the questions of the physical world. You cannot handle one Muslim how would you handle all of them. We are half of the world idiot. Learn some history and then talk, with few examples to give, Radius of the earth was calculated by a Muslim, Sulfuric Acid was discovered by a Muslim and many more to go.
@PersianWiseMan1 About the discoveries you talked about, non of the thing that has been mentioned in the Quran and searched by science is proven wrong and many of the non-Muslims have converted to the Islam because of them. According to the research 80% of the scientific verses in the Quran have been proven 100% correct about the remaining 20% they will be proven right soon in the coming years. Take your lolly pop of illiteracy and get your mouth out here idiot huh but u are shameless:@
@PersianWiseMan1 Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
Oh boy, why do you people keep mixing Oranges with Apples here?!!!
Electrons and Protons are material/elements, they only react when they are provoked, But how can you compare them to an Intelligent being such as a "Deity", who knows and is aware of ALL things, including itself.
Can't It produce another Deity such as itself, duplicate/produce? or is it that it needs another being such as humans to serve it?
Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
@PersianWiseMan1 Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Listen "JACKASS", i am familiar with the technique you are trying to use.
It is a technique that is thought in Islamic schools of thoughts, to destroy your opponent when every attempt was failed to win an argument, (just as the clergy did to men and women in the 5th century, of accusing of being a "Witch"). ha ha ha
But your problem is that, "i do not live in your town" meaning you can not get your hands on me :) to let other do your DIRTY Work.
What is called science by the *science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe
@PersianWiseMan1 . One more thing if humanity is not capable enough to answer a question then it doesn't mean that thing has no existence. The whole uniformity in the everything isn't just because of the shity Big Bang, whose inventor even doubt at their ideas. Want to have the link ? Stephen Hawking who was the believer of it, doubted his idea in his own book that big bang might be wrong. You are an idiot, who knows nothing but denying the true path. And btw if you issue then go from here.
@PersianWiseMan1 See that's what I was trying to enlighten up before everyone, when people like you don't have reasons you step into dirty language/personal attacks/immoral words and comments. I won't answer you for that idiotic comment. Well I am not saying that Stephen is in doubt, he himself is claiming that, read his book 'The brief history of time'. Oh but how would you understand that? you are an idiot who is alone dictating his idiotic comments no one not even the logic support him.
@PersianWiseMan1 Well I can claim that you are a shameless and pathetic cunt, how many times I have to mention that get your idiotic empty skull out here from a Muslim platform. You are just making fun of yourself, you have no knowledge no logic and as a matter of fact no humanity. So just go and learn some A for Atheist, B for Bad mouthed, C for Cunt and I for ill mannered. You are senseless and illiterate idiot.
@PersianWiseMan1 First of all that's blood clot not cloth. Secondly is it compulsory that if in a book one scientific phenomena is mentioned then essentially other has to be there too? How you manage to be such a punk. I and 3 billion people in the world believe in HIM AS ONE LORD, no one cares about you. To the people like you, we put lolly pop in their mouth and ask them to play ping pong. So just go from here kid. Don't be shameless we don't want you to be here get out from our platform .
Abdullah Ibn Abu Sarh/ Muhammad's Scribe:- He was one of Muhammad's scribes who used to suggest alternative words to rhyme with the verses of 'revelations' to which Muhammad agreed.
Continued: After a while he realized that if these 'revelations' were actually from Allah, then no one, not even Muhammad had the right to change a single iota of them. Because of this enlightenment, he apostatized upon pain of death by Muhammad and
his followers. His life was saved by Uthman Ibn Affan after Muhammad had conquered Mecca. He was Uthman's foster brother.
Muslims know jack about science and if they did know anything about Science, it was ALL borrowed from other cultures, (such as Greeks, Persians, etc...etc...etc).
You people make me laugh, ha ha ha ha
Just because someone was a Muslim (by force) does not mean that Allah gave him inspiration to come up with and invention.
The Quran is filled with Mumble Jumble, any jack ass could have written it. :)
That's still assuming, with no basis at all, that god is uncreated. Even if god by definition is uncreated, you still have to prove he exists in the first place. That's like saying, Unicorns by definition have horns. Okay sure, but that doesn't mean they exist.
And you still have all your work ahead of you proving Allah is the real god and quran is his words.
@Nebster173 I will answer u directly "The universe is NOT eternal"
1-The Second Law of Thermodynamics: The paths in the system moving in the direction of random-sum and the lack of system,If there is something warm and something cold, the heat will move from hot to cold to becoming equal in temperature, and when arriving at the same temperature,the energy transfer will stop and nothing will happen, and here the system is Dead thermally.This is what will happen to the whole universe
@Nebster173 If the universe in which we now know existed since time immemorial as they claim, it means that it is supposed that he passed a sufficient number of years led to his arrival to the stage of thermal death,So the universe in which we live, it was found since the specified number of years, did not exist before.and will die after a number of years,So What created the universe? it is GOD Because nothing can not be anything without a cause
@Nebster173 2-Einstein's equation (E=m*c^2)Demonstrate that the Material NOT eternal because it is transformed into energy, as in stars SO the universe is NOT eternal
3-Big Bang proves that the universe has a beginning and will die when the force of gravity is greater than the power of expansion.
Allah said in the quran "47- With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it" ch-51
So everything tells us that the universe has GOD created it from nothing !!
@PersianWiseMan1 Mr. Welcome here. You are an idiot. Have you ever gone to School? 'No Energy'? haha...you even never studied the elementary level 'Law of Conservation of Energy. 'Leave the issue of GOD HE is supreme you can't think of him cunt, just answer me one question. 'Explain the origin of all the basic forces of the UNIVERSE?' and if you can't answer this question then take your mouth out from here IDIOT.
@taten21 There are many speculations as to how it happened, like the collision of matter and anti matter, but as of yet scientists do not have enough evidence to come up with a full fledged theory, that does not mean you can insert God, we just simply do not know for now. Some scientists say it's perfectly viable for the universe to come into existence from nothing.The human mind cannot comprehend the micro or the macro well which only makes it harder to discover the true answers.
This Muslim asshole make his own self made philosophy about his Allah. His ass lickers always follow him like a God. He should not be allowed to preach n talk ill about other religion. The evil book koran banned which is actual cause to turn them to terrorists
stupifyed..... so me being confused to what you're saying ..... yes i know a man cant give birth but still can have a child with some one.... and he would proble be there when he has a kid..... so yes this is true to.... and ur a Dr.? and confusion is you're best strategy?
@fetty517 If u are getting confused then der are problems in ur brains.. He's not confusing anybody ..re-run it as many times as possible till u find the logic in his comparison then comment.. its simple and an excellent example!! No doubt :)
The only truth about islam is that it is from satan and is filled with lies. This idiot,m this thing Dr. Zakir Naik, should be hunted down, charged and convicted for crimes against humanity...
@GTCism: I think ur comment and ppl are more of a threat to humanity..!! Isn't it bizzare that wen a learned person talks abt his and other religion with 100% knowledge and it is ur books he knows better than u but when he says it u guys freak out rather than accepting it!! Is doing humanity a kindness but beasts lyk urself wil never get it.. pitty for u too buddy!
Well i think that you people should STOP making such Bull crap videos about your religion and post them on youtube, you should go on and worship who ever the puck you want but keep it in your own tents, No one needs to know that YOU worship some invisible deity that does not really exist and is of your pigment of your imaginations.
We don't need to know how your prophet was Possessed by Demons, as he needed a psychiatrist (needed to have his head examined).
@PersianWiseMan1 well i think u should then STOP watching such videos on youtube if it bothers u so much.. mind ur own business and worship whatever shit u belive in... but truth is u cant live without islaam whether like it or not either ways u cant leave it.. woo!!
@PersianWiseMan1: What an illogical and loser reply u've given to my comment ...hahaha!! Nice to see that...u bloody well know u belong to a lost religion..and so u technically are a LOSER!
So by your definition of a "Looser". if i believe in what you and your Quran say, i will be a winner?!!!
You people had 1400 years ahead of us, what have you been doing for the past 1400 years as far as science, technology, medicine, and space explorations> HUh, let me answer that For YOU, ZILCH, Nothing nada. :)D
@PersianWiseMan1 Hello dude learn ur facts right.. Allah has revealed so much abt science in quran 1400 years ago much before the scientists did....wasted their tym and efforts wen the answer was already in quran right from the big bang theory to human diseases ...etc.. Go give Quran some of ur tym then open ur loud mouth
@PersianWiseMan1 Well i forgot i was preaching an anti-muslim who'll stink in the hell and who is a fat pig with fatest of brains.. If after having said all of that u dun understand islaam then its a shame on u and ur bloody existence..U wil always keep fighting here on the virtual world till u dun find inner atisfaction and alas! u wud never find dat bcoz u wil nvr happen to love the truth-islaam.. so i pitty u and lyk i said b4 u are a bloody LOSER! So prepare well for hell..yo!
@PersianWiseMan1 why useem to be getting scared..hold on ur pants tight coz hell is even more scarier not only its thought!! So keep lingering around islaam n muslims to satisfy ur inner bloody self ..thats what u guys deserve.. lingering around us..haha
Last time i remembered was Muslims, traveling to the West, such as yourself and your relatives to take advantage of our Educational system, welfare, Healthcare, jobs, inventions and medicine, so YOU tell me, why do we need to linger around smelly people without an adequate education, curry smelling people like you? HUH? lol
@PersianWiseMan1: You shud answer that.. lol u make such a fool out of urslf.. first u linger around us u unsatisfied lot then u keep fighting with us and try really hard to prove islaam wrong..but always remain unsuccessful.. WhaT a true looser u really are and then u ask me a question abt urself? haha..u shud tel me what u r doing here?? Just remaining in ur blind & stinky churches or whatevr shit u follow
@PersianWiseMan1 You yeah you don't need him, all you need is a bunch of doctors to treat your mental illness huh :@. Who are you? nothing, what are you? an idiot. 3 billion people believe in this religion, you know what 'all these people don't like you, they don't hate you as a matter of fact they just don't bloody think of you and people like you'. And yes I can see how well you are going through your life without a religion haha... shamelessly making fun of yourself idiot. Just go cunt
Apart from giving an answer Dr Zakir is counter questioning and relates to human life example. No question is illogical in my view. it gives me an impression dat u narrow or limit ur mind if u don't want to think beyond or u must define that u have set some boundaries for urself according to ur religion and u don't want to think ahead of those parameters. i believe in a creator but yet in the search of light. which faith to follow?
@rviboy12345: My friend u'll always be unsatisfied and uncertain untill u dun start following islaam...coz islaam is the truth and it gives u inner satisfaction and untill u dun find urself into it u'll be wandering lyk a wanderer in this life.. Quran is the answer to the end of all ur questions and uncertainity
@PersianWiseMan1: Well then u shouldn't comment abt islaam or any religion as a matter of fact.. u shud just mind ur own business and stay in ur narrow world.. but hey...u cant do without islaam..right so ol ur life u'll be haunting around it to satisfy ur guilt of not being a part it.. so sad.. pitty!
@romsirox@romsirox i am satisfied but i have the desire to learn and quest to find the truth. i follow islam in many ways. islam might be the truth but to convince a neutral person u should be rational and logical in ur arguments rather then emotional which most of people get around.
i m not wandering but thinking independently keeping the peer pressures aside.
@rviboy12345: thats nice of u to have such a broad minded view.. very rare thinking.. i'm happy for u and i pray that u find the truth soon and if u want rational answers what better cud be than Dr zakir Naik.. he has the knowledge word by word of all religions, he has his own website and take some time out to read the holy quran atleast once in life..with a positve attitude off course, it might help! take care
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look up "Edgar Casey" with extra ordinary powers to predict the future.
Many people have the ability to know the future or gain/access information throu other cultures simply by having the right contacts. It does not mean that they are Prophets and have been chosen by a God.
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"Edgar Casey" was a simple man, and only wanted to help fellow man, BUT other people GAVE HIM the title of Prophet-hood. I think it goes the same with Muhammad.
Muhammad insisted of reminding people of Christianity in many verses of the Quran, yet Arabs took it the wrong way.
He (Muhammad) even spoke of being possessed by demons at some point, A Condition where Allah failed to produce identity at 1st introduction.
PersianWiseMan1 55 minutes ago
Hahahahahah! What utter bullshit. The reason why a man cannot give birth to a child is biological and well understood. Saying that "a man cannot give birth to a child BY DEFINITION" is erroneous and idiotic. It's not "by definition". It's a consequence of several biological factors. Thus, the parallel to god being uncreated "by definition" does not hold. You just assert that god is uncreated by definition. That's not evidence! What a moron.
KaxMisha 4 hours ago
Lmfao, persianwiseman, you idiot, why don't you fucking leave huh? and a reply to one of the comments, when you said that no one knows where did gravity originate from and why is it not mentioned in the Quran
1-Quran says Allah is the creator of everything lol, (human minds are no match for his)
2-How many lines are you gonna put in one book huh? It is a book to guide humanity not a book to tell hoes about astronomy and astrology!
tayyabno10 1 day ago
@tayyabno10
LOL @ you people, my presence here makes you nervous huh? :)D
Quran says?!!! lol Can it be crossed referenced by your Allah?
If it can not be crossed referenced and be proved, then it is just hollow words.
How do you know about Allah's mind and not a match to our human minds? did you examine your Allah's Brain and thought pattern?
If the Quran is not a book of Science, then you people should stop insisting that IT IS.
duhhhh...
PersianWiseMan1 1 day ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Trust me, your presence does not make me nervous, it just gets me annoyed, with all your ":)D" signs all over, I said it before and I'll say it again; the Quran was here to guide human beings, it has science but to a medium level, but I have to agree its not easy to tell an atheist what to do, since all they say is "God doesn't exist"+Can you tell me how did prophet Muhammad know about the Illuminati before it was even formed?, please don't say Illuminati doesn't exist.
tayyabno10 3 hours ago
@tayyabno10
Look buddy, i have no argument with your religion, IF you provide sufficient proof of the existence of your GOD, But it must be a solid proof and not just speculation. capiche??
"The Quran was here to guide human beings"? lol, We have a system for guiding Human beings, and it is called SCHOOL. :)D
You want to know how Muhammad new about things? Well i will be more than happy to tell you how......
PersianWiseMan1 1 hour ago
@tayyabno10
Also, let me ask you this......
How many times, are you going to repeat (Bismillah Alrahman Al rahim"?!!!!
Half you Quran consists one one line, ha ha ha ha....
Great way to brain wash a man. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 12 hours ago
Dr. Zakir Naik is answering who created God . Son of a bitch
Sucks to be his child . I've seen videos of his little daughter singing rhymes of allah and mohammed instead of nursery rhymes.
His son is doing the same shit .
God please forgive this RETARD and his family .
747nemesis 3 days ago
Zakir Naik must have come up with that ingenious analogy and reasoning while taking a shit.A person who claims to be a professor, should surely come up with a better answer than that. Still laughing at him.
snickhill 3 days ago
@snickhill
Actually, that particular reasoning is taught in Islamic school of thoughts, i have heard the same story many many many years back.
If you noticed, the rest of the audience are laughing, hence they ALSO know the story, and are IN with the same rationality. ;)
PersianWiseMan1 3 days ago
it is frightening that this guy can command an audience..where people applaud him.
ab330 4 days ago
that was terrible; yes god is uncreated but answer how
metallica04100 4 days ago
@metallica04100
How is he supposed to answer that question? If a human can't even understand what God truly is how are you supposed to know how God is created?
stretch90 4 days ago
Wow.
The level of manipulation involved in these kinds of things are always impressive. Just look at how he works to ridicule a perfectly reasonable line of questioning. How he gets the crowd riled up against the thought of it, how he cements the fact in their mind that it is faulty without even addressing it at all. Then, when he finally gets around to it, he is free to make a statement of fact without having to substantiate it
Apologists never deal in facts, only in charm and wordcraft.
ogith 6 days ago 2
Human mind has limitation. The only way to accept the logic behind it is by faith. If you don't have faith, you can't possibly brain this.
djemba 1 week ago
This was by far the most retarded answer given by this pseudo-scholar. And that's saying something - Considering his knowledge of everything worldly is insufficient, to be polite and wrong, to be frank.
discoguru 1 week ago
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@tayyabno10
in our galaxy, yes we are. Other Galaxies maybe not.
Also, i was NOT the one who said "we are NOTHING".
Also, your GOD has not been seen to us to evaluate his SUPERIORITY.
I don;t know about you, but I AM SOMEBODY and SOMETHING.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
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PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 What I meant by saying "we are NOTHING" was against God we are nothing, and how can we tell that Earthlings are the only form of intelligent life out there huh? *100 billion stars, each with at least one planet* Come on now? Doesn't that show you anything?
tayyabno10 1 week ago
@tayyabno10
Again: You can not say or make that statement hence you are NOT ABLE to compare the two. You will need to have both facts and data present to make such "absurd" comments.
PersianWiseMan1 3 days ago
@GudMuzlim786
Hay yo.?
Will i get my 72 Virgins, packed up in vail or Allah is going to protect them for me? cause i don't want anybody see their hair, you know? :)
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
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Booo hoooo I shall remain lost and ignorant for the rest of my life in this world, only "Islam" will make my intelligent, :)D coughing, cough , cough , cough..... :)D
I will give you my share of Khoms and zakat, so i can go to Paradise, Drink from the rivers of milk and honey, and oh yeaaaaa, the 72 Virgins. :)D
But wait, this is not the desert, we have Milk and honey available. :)
thinking hard now,, 72 Girl Friends :) smiling now. hah haa haa haa
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
I Guess Allah does not Will it, huh? :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
I will tell you What......
Tell your Allah to show his face, and i will give you my share of the reward. DEAL???
:)D lol @ you people.......
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
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It were the ancient Egyptians that came up with god and the rest of the world copied it or plagiarized it.
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kuttenkijker 1 week ago
One question You need to be asking is WHO created Satan?
If God is "all knowing", why did it not know the trouble Satan will be causing when humanity was created.
If this is a test for mankind, Test are ONLY given when the teacher/examiner is unaware of the knowledge and faith of the humankind/student so therefore GOD is NOT "All knowing", hence it does not Know, what's in the hearts of ALL MEN.
go figure.......
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 You and 'sarabification' are such ignorant atheists. I was just checking out the nonsense that you both were spitting out from your unclean mouths. I guess it can't be helped. Allah(SWT) did say that their will be some people who will be deaf, dumb and blind. Now I know what this meant. The proof that God exists is that you exist and I exist. What wrong with you? Are you that deluded and ignorant!? I'll provide you with a useful source.../kaheel7.com/eng/
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
Ahhh, another dumb ass.!!!!
If you say allah created all creatures and everything, so it created me as well.(If your theory is true), Was it NOT your God, who put the seal on my heart and ears and eyes? if yes, then you have a dumb Arse for a God.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Haha,Your stupidity still seems to amuse me quite ironically actually! I guess what I had said previously was true. Atheists like you ARE morons with small minds! Even though,if it be that Allah(SWT) did seal your ears and eyes from the truth.Then its a muslim's duty to remove the seal as we have been obliged to do so. Whether we succeed or not will depend on the will of Allah(SWT) as long as we have trust and faith, we'll be rewarded. Maybe you'll never learn!?
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
Muslims duty can kiss my arse,
Get the puck outta here.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Well suit yourself. If you should remain lost and ignorant for the rest of your life in this world, then so be it. I not upset though since I'll still get the other half of the reward. The other half would have been given to you but to bad since you don't intend to accept it.
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
Dude, STFU, Will i not get my reward NOW. ?
I don't want to wait til afterlife. :)
Its cash and carry. :)D
GOD puts a seal on my heart, and you choose to interfere ? LOL
WTF??? You want to do Gods work now???? I guess now we have to pay you... lol
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 The only reward you'll get will be in hellfire! I think i'm done talking with you now Persian'Foolish'Man1. You just don't give up! It's like your asking for the punishment! Laugh all you want now but pretty soon those laughs will turn into cries and screems. And don't even bother writing back because I've given up on ignorant and brainless atheists like you! I hope that you live to realize the truth.
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
Oh, so your Allah does not work based on cash and carry?!!! :)D
How do i know that, i will be rewarded afterlife? After all i have spent a lifetime support on donations to Mecca and Medina, and the Masjids and the shaykhs and Immams and Mullahs.??
So there are no guarantees huh? EMPTY WORDS?
I Guess it from day one mate. go get yourself a reputable God, cause your Allah is bankrupt. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
As a matter of fact, yes, I AM asking to go to hell.
Paradise is not a good place for me, it is filled dirty long bearded Muslims and their women, ukh...!!!
I wonder how they remain a virgin if they never get to be Pucked. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Act all high and mighty now, but you'll be begging to be saved from the Fire on the Day Of Judgement. You will see.
IWANTHOTDOG 3 days ago
@IWANTHOTDOG
No need to be begging. If God wanted me to be religious, it would have told me so, I don't need a half ass Muslim to tell me what to do or what to fear hence you have no clue yourself.
Day of Judgement is for uneducated people like you. I don't fear from it.
PersianWiseMan1 3 days ago
What is there to follow, Go work your ass off and give money to Mecca and Medina (basically to the Shaikh and Immams), build more Masjids with our money to collect more?
Then we would make good Muslims right?
Well Kiss my arse. and go get a freaking Job.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
Allah says at verse 42:13 َرَعَ لَكُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّىٰ بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ ۖ أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ ۚ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ ۚ اللَّـهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يُنِيبُ
He has laid down for you the way of life and which commended to Noah, which enjoined on you, and which bequeathed to Abraham, Moses and Jesus,.. ..."
reasonlight 1 week ago
@reasonlight There is no Allah, relax.
MrAtishraja 1 week ago
@reasonlight
You think we really care what the quran says ? quran means NOTHING to non-muslims .
My religious text says "The holy Dur'an " says ::
Santa Claus says in the verse 23:15
"He has laid down for you the way of life and which commended to Harry potter, which enjoined on you, and which bequeathed to santa claus, pink unicorn and leprauchans ,.. ..."
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
Whats funny is that, Muhammad claimed riding a unicorn from Mecca to Medina, Only names it "Al Buragh" . ha ha ha ha....
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
we can destroy whole civilizations but how dare u insult our profet ! ;) haha
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
It is more like "Profit".
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@sarabification Who is 'we'? Quran asks me to reply you as:
ُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ ﴿١﴾ لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ ﴿٢﴾ وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ ﴿٣﴾ وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ ﴿٤﴾ وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ ﴿٥﴾ لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
SAY: "O YOU rejectors, I do not worship what you worship, Nor do you worship who I worship, Nor will I worship what you worship, Nor will you worship who I worship: To you your way, to me my way
reasonlight 1 week ago
@reasonlight
Who is "I"?!! Muhammad or Allah?
2nd, if Allah wanted everyone to worship him, he would show his face and make individual connections, not send a mailman(messenger) .
Last but nor least, if you worship what you worship, then keep ir in your own TENT, as WE do NOT want to hear, what you worship, for all i care, you could be worshiping Satan. who knows?
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Worship means following. Allah only is worthy of following (verse 10:35) Following his message is following him. Everyone has right to reject. If one follows Allah, it is for his benefit and when rejects, rejects at his own risk.
reasonlight 1 week ago
@reasonlight
So we are rejecting IT, whats is your beef?
Huh?
Go get lost. and Put a lid on it.
If one needs to be followed, It would show its face, Somehow you are not getting it. Dumb as you come, and idiot as you go.
:)
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Why cranky? Even PersianStupidestMan1 is neither cranky nor cracky. Follow whatever you like. It is your life. Waste it in any manner you like. لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
reasonlight 1 week ago
He has laid down for you the (same) way of life and belief which He had commended to Noah, and which We have enjoined on you, and which We had bequeathed to Abraham, Moses and Jesus, so that they should maintain the order and not be divided among themselves. Heavy is to idolaters what you invite them to. God chooses whom He please for Himself, and guides to Himself whoever turns to Him. 42:13
reasonlight 1 week ago
How can you claim of your Allah being "PERFECT", if it makes such an imperfect beings like us/humans?
A Perfect being makes "perfect creations/creatures",
It would be impossible for a perfect Deity to make an imperfect creature. Do you people even listen to what comes out of your own mouths?
I mean seriously?!!! Do you?!!!!!!
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
Arguing with the religious is like hitting your head with the wall ! they are TOO delusional . At best , you can provide them with reason and perhaps hopefully , they may become skeptical about their own faith !
Abrahamic religions are a trouble !
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
Well, friend, somebody has to make them REALIZE that they are following a blind faith with no basis at all.
Most of these people are scared to speak up or their peers will tell on them.
Its like the stone age, believe this or you will be stoned to death.
And believe me my friend, it is all about money. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
Well yes , Muslims ( and other abrahamic religions ) prefer to live in stone age !
Qur'an for them is ultimate science . this is blind worship .
And yes , had that man been in an islamic state asking such questions , maybe he would have been chopped off .
Proof itself that islam is a VILE religion ! no respect for it !
Start educating younger generation of muslims with secular education . No madrassas !
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
And thats what WE are doing, Educating the young. :)
We need to turn Masjids into universities. :)
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
Its not so easy ! Islam has a strong clergy system and mullahs sitting at top would always devise something to keep the cult going.
Until muslims themselves start seeing the stupidity and start rational thinking , chances are very bleak .
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
You are right, BUT, if WE don't do anything about it, they might think that WE don't mind them Pucking with us.
Thats why , WE mean business.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
well , is not job of one man to tacke this menace .
its powers like the west which should actively work to let muslim kids knw quran is NOT science ,,
I worry for europe with number of muslimg growing there . europe is a heaven for free thinkers . under islam , it wouldn't be
sarabification 1 week ago
@sarabification
Well, they only balance out, Those people who believe in Islam ONLY grows amongst the uneducated ones, But you need to realize that, at the same time, they are loosing their own Muslims in their own backyard, AFRICA.
It takes a while for the newly converted to realize that it is a BOGUS religion.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
I MEAN JUST LOOK at the audience there laughing when he tricks the guy ( as always ) with the question of john gave birth to a boy or a girl ?
And LOOK at the gullible audience there laughing ! It shows their own intellect !
Zakir Naik CANNOT answer the question of "who created God ?" because it immediately opens a pandora's box . Then , who created the "creator of god?" and so on .
If Zakir Naik can say "god existed forever" , then why cannot "universe has existed forever"?
sarabification 1 week ago
Yo scumbag? If i don't believe in your Allah, it is of treason to your Allah and is being as Materialistic?!!!
Seriously, is this how you plan to unveil the truth? Is it really important for you to LIE and deceive humanity to bring forth a bogus religion such as Islam?
You sir, "MUST be" really desperate. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
ha ha ha "tabligh" my arse. :)D
You should try a new name, such as "Deceptor", "Eblise".
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
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Such desperate measures, ONLY conveys your defeat to us, But what is really sad is that you need such attempts to make an argument win, rather than proving the Existence of your Allah.!!!
DO NOT Expect us to view any of your debates, as it will be discarded as trash., and your screen name WIKK be blocked from our/my black list.
It is really shameful. tis tis tis.....
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
Well so far, It is Your Allah that is a fantasy, isn't it?
If you had a shred of logical thinking ability, you would know that by now.
Faith is not real, it is merely a Fiction or make belief.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
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@PersianWiseMan1 If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Allah is my creator as well as yours. He even created fantasy, therefore fantasy is a part of his creation. How can you say that the creator is a creation? It makes no sense! Small minded people like yourself exist, it's not unusual. "Faith is not real, it is merely a Fiction or make belief" - you. Indeed people with intellect understand that there is a creator and we are his creation. People like you, simply live life based on preconceptions. Realise the truth!
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
One simple task, i ask of you. :)
Hence you have a BIG Mind, and can think rationally, Prove your existence of Allah.
And i don't mean for you to tell me, "Oh look at the trees , look at the planets, look at the Birds, Somebody must have created them".
Am talking about solid Scientific proof,
otherwise, IF you can't, then simply Shut your mouth. Deal?
:)
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 One thing I want to ask you. If this task is simple, why are you asking me? I think it's time to change your username if it's possible. :D And please don't consider me as a 'big head' as I have no intention of boasting about being perfect since no one is perfect except Allah(SWT). Alhamdulillah, but I will help you out in what you're asking me as long as you benefit from it. I will answer your question on your personal messages since it will be too long here.
GudMuzlim786 1 week ago
@GudMuzlim786
Look. I don't want to hear Bull *hit, ok?
I am asking you since you/Muslims claim to know plenty about God.
If you know so much about your God, then you may enlighten the rest of us.
I make no such claim, so the burden of Proof is on you. Get it?
Also, answer it right here, and let EVERY ONE benefit from it. :)
If you can't then, so be it.......
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
what a stupid example......
harrispalmer86 1 week ago
PersianWiseMan1 , Well I never said that just because an acid was discovered by a Muslim it means Islam has to do with it, you are up to the logic that if you don't get a logic then that logic is wrong haha:) such a punk. Test your religion and then come to us, we don't have doubts in our religion you have, we don't have ten forms of our BOOK you have, we don't have new and old testaments you have. So get a life and take your loser butt out here senseless.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani lol @ you. how old are you 12? ha ha ha ha
I don't argue with kids and imbeciles like you.
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Your idea of God taken from the stupid Christianity, which depicts God in human beings or made up of materials.God Can not be made up of materials or Energy created by him idiot! God is not affected by the physical and temporal factors of the universe because God outside the universe and Above all thing.about the laws I told you they prove that the universe has age and will die after a period and before it there was nothing,
LodyBasha 1 week ago
@LodyBasha
Continued:
LOL @ your Mentality. You have no bases of "God's" existence if it was not mentioned in the Bible, NO WHERE in the Quran refers to the origin of God, but was taken from the Bible. ha ha ha ha
As it says in the Bible, so says God, "I Created you in my Image".
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 nothing can not be something without cause The cause is God,
ALLAH is Arabic name meaning THE GOD,Mohammed did not come up with new god. Read the Qur'an and scientific miracles of the Quran to know that Islam is the true religion.
there is nothing like God,and we do not know anything but what he tells us about himself.
I will not answer you anymore because you are obviously a Shallow man and a one does not know what to do in his life.
LodyBasha 1 week ago
@LodyBasha
See i don't want to argue with a person who takes offense by rejecting their faith.
It does not mean that i accepted your illogical answers and without a proof.
" My idea of God taken from the stupid Christianity?"!!!!! Isn't your religion BASED on Christianity? The Quran mention "maryam" mother of Jesus many many times, in fact a whole chapter is dedicated to her.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@LodyBasha
I am jumping around without logic?!!!!
"Nothing can not be something without cause The cause is God."?
So where is your proof or the mathematical formulation behind your claim?
How do you figure that God i responsible for all of this and that?
Did it tell you? In person, or is in just mentioned in the Quran or the Bible?
How do WE know that it is not all Bull Crap?
Where is your proof?
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 haha... see I proved my point now you are just jumping around with no logic. You are misguided and illiterate cunt. Just go and study some useful things instead arguing uselessly ... idiot little kiddish baby...
TheMePakistani 1 week ago
The atheist Delusion!
The Creator of the universe cannot be preceded by non-existence; otherwise, He would need another god to create Him; and that god, if he is preceded by non-existence, would need another god and so on. Thus, we would have an endless chain of gods without reaching a **causeless cause** to be the source of the existence of the universe.
Then we have to deny the existence of the universe. We would also have to deny ourselves because we are a part of the universe.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
watch?v=KImfaDrhhVk
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
Mankind had a vast knowledge of matter, Science and math way before Islam some 4000 before, but no one has the ability or the documentation of their origins, Did Allah told the humanity about them too?
Gavrinis Tomb clip is one of Many unexplained phenomenon, One can not link EVERYTHING unexplained to Allah.
Can you get that through your thick heads? watch?v=KImfaDrhhVk Gavrinis Tomb
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 You are surely out of the right way. Who told you that every scientific phenomena is written in the Quran. Muslims believe that any scientific phenomena mentioned in the Quran is and will be correct. No one is idiot like you that he/she starts finding the 'EM-theory, Amount of Electrons in a hydrogen atom, E=mc^2 explanation, or Newtons laws in Quran'. You are misguided nothing else, go spend some time with good people instead watching idiotic videos on youtube atheist.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
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Basic forces of the UNIVERSE
1. The Strong Force
2. The Electromagnetic Force
3. The Weak Force
4. The Gravitational Force
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
Yo, Hindu....
Shall i explain the four basic forces of the universe, so you could link them to your Allah?
Cause we all know, NO ONE knows the origin of the Gravitation forces in the universe, maybe it is mention in the Quran. But wait, there is no such thing. So how the hell your Allah mentions about a blood cloth but not the origins of its entity?
:)
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Told you, you are an idiot. Our science is not capable enough to answer such a basic question and you ask it to explain the existence of GOD? yes you are an idiot. Similar idiot like you was Dr.William Campbel and he was proven wrong watch the video, OK and btw let me tell you one thing, Quran is the book of religion, they are many things which are told in it and they were already defined and many things were told which weren't discovered at that time and were discovered it now
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani
And let me tell YOU (all Muslims)....
If you can not explain the Basic questions of our physical world, what makes you think that you have knowledge of a "deity"? lol @ you people.
All your Videos have been seen and all are a "sham" ha ha ha ha.
Many things has not been discovered, yet, but we know in the future, we will be able to tap on those discoveries, would that make us a Prophet of God?
I think not. so go get some education kid. :)D
Leave this nonesense
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 We can explain and will always explain the questions of the physical world. You cannot handle one Muslim how would you handle all of them. We are half of the world idiot. Learn some history and then talk, with few examples to give, Radius of the earth was calculated by a Muslim, Sulfuric Acid was discovered by a Muslim and many more to go.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 About the discoveries you talked about, non of the thing that has been mentioned in the Quran and searched by science is proven wrong and many of the non-Muslims have converted to the Islam because of them. According to the research 80% of the scientific verses in the Quran have been proven 100% correct about the remaining 20% they will be proven right soon in the coming years. Take your lolly pop of illiteracy and get your mouth out here idiot huh but u are shameless:@
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani
You are not getting it, YOU Idiot.
Everything the Quran mentions , WAS proven some 3000 years before Islam, YOU need to Listen and research, instead of running your mouth for religion.
The diameter of the earth was predicted 3000 years ago in a tomb of a french person.
And as far as your sulfuric acid, how was Islam connected with the invention of it?
Just because the inventor was a Muslim does not mean it was backed by your Allah.
What Idiots you are?!!!
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1
1tabligh 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
Oh boy, why do you people keep mixing Oranges with Apples here?!!!
Electrons and Protons are material/elements, they only react when they are provoked, But how can you compare them to an Intelligent being such as a "Deity", who knows and is aware of ALL things, including itself.
Can't It produce another Deity such as itself, duplicate/produce? or is it that it needs another being such as humans to serve it?
Are YOU getting my drift?
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 The atheist Delusion!
Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
So you are saying that your Belief is NOT FANATICAL? lol
If God created you, it also needs to give you the ability to comprehend its creator, IF it needs us to believe in it.
Like the old proverb say "No money, NO HONEY". :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
I guess you of all people would know about materialism, and "Treason" :)D
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@1tabligh
Continued:
You should be "shot/hung) for crimes against humanity.
Is this how you "Tabligh" for Islam? "You mf?!!!
How does materialism or treason is linked to your non existing ALLAH?
You cant win so YOU accuse your opponents of "Treason and materialism" where it was punishable by death in the 5ct Century. :)
Guess what JACKASS we live in the 21st Century and your weaknesses are EXPOSED.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1
Listen "JACKASS", i am familiar with the technique you are trying to use.
It is a technique that is thought in Islamic schools of thoughts, to destroy your opponent when every attempt was failed to win an argument, (just as the clergy did to men and women in the 5th century, of accusing of being a "Witch"). ha ha ha
But your problem is that, "i do not live in your town" meaning you can not get your hands on me :) to let other do your DIRTY Work.
Ha ha ha.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
What is called science by the *science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh
Continued:
How can you Calculate a Quadratic formula, if you have not have the basic multiplications.
How can you be so sure that God is behind all creation, without a shred of Evidence of your so called God?
And don't tell us that, "Oh its here, so someone or something must have created it", cause it is not a logical explanation. :)
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@1tabligh
"What is called science by the *science-worshippers of the present age"?
You will need to know how to add and subtract before performing/writing a Calculus equations.
PersianWiseMan1 1 week ago
@PersianWiseMan1 . One more thing if humanity is not capable enough to answer a question then it doesn't mean that thing has no existence. The whole uniformity in the everything isn't just because of the shity Big Bang, whose inventor even doubt at their ideas. Want to have the link ? Stephen Hawking who was the believer of it, doubted his idea in his own book that big bang might be wrong. You are an idiot, who knows nothing but denying the true path. And btw if you issue then go from here.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani
You speak of Stephen Hawking in doubt?!!! lol @ you....
Muhammad was under the impression of that he was possessed by the DEMONS. ha ha ha ha.
:) he needed a Psychiatrist to deal with his issues in the mountain top, but he could not afford one. lol
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 See that's what I was trying to enlighten up before everyone, when people like you don't have reasons you step into dirty language/personal attacks/immoral words and comments. I won't answer you for that idiotic comment. Well I am not saying that Stephen is in doubt, he himself is claiming that, read his book 'The brief history of time'. Oh but how would you understand that? you are an idiot who is alone dictating his idiotic comments no one not even the logic support him.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Well I can claim that you are a shameless and pathetic cunt, how many times I have to mention that get your idiotic empty skull out here from a Muslim platform. You are just making fun of yourself, you have no knowledge no logic and as a matter of fact no humanity. So just go and learn some A for Atheist, B for Bad mouthed, C for Cunt and I for ill mannered. You are senseless and illiterate idiot.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 First of all that's blood clot not cloth. Secondly is it compulsory that if in a book one scientific phenomena is mentioned then essentially other has to be there too? How you manage to be such a punk. I and 3 billion people in the world believe in HIM AS ONE LORD, no one cares about you. To the people like you, we put lolly pop in their mouth and ask them to play ping pong. So just go from here kid. Don't be shameless we don't want you to be here get out from our platform .
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani
LOL at you.....
"You and 3 billion people in the world believe in HIM AS ONE LORD"?!!!
You and 3 billion other people are a dumb asses. lol
Go figure. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
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PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
Abdullah Ibn Abu Sarh/ Muhammad's Scribe:- He was one of Muhammad's scribes who used to suggest alternative words to rhyme with the verses of 'revelations' to which Muhammad agreed.
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
Continued: After a while he realized that if these 'revelations' were actually from Allah, then no one, not even Muhammad had the right to change a single iota of them. Because of this enlightenment, he apostatized upon pain of death by Muhammad and
his followers. His life was saved by Uthman Ibn Affan after Muhammad had conquered Mecca. He was Uthman's foster brother.
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
Muslims know jack about science and if they did know anything about Science, it was ALL borrowed from other cultures, (such as Greeks, Persians, etc...etc...etc).
You people make me laugh, ha ha ha ha
Just because someone was a Muslim (by force) does not mean that Allah gave him inspiration to come up with and invention.
The Quran is filled with Mumble Jumble, any jack ass could have written it. :)
So said "Abdullah Ibn Sad Ibn Abi Sarh". :)
Go read a book or something, .....
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
That's still assuming, with no basis at all, that god is uncreated. Even if god by definition is uncreated, you still have to prove he exists in the first place. That's like saying, Unicorns by definition have horns. Okay sure, but that doesn't mean they exist.
And you still have all your work ahead of you proving Allah is the real god and quran is his words.
Nebster173 2 weeks ago
@Nebster173 I will answer u directly "The universe is NOT eternal"
1-The Second Law of Thermodynamics: The paths in the system moving in the direction of random-sum and the lack of system,If there is something warm and something cold, the heat will move from hot to cold to becoming equal in temperature, and when arriving at the same temperature,the energy transfer will stop and nothing will happen, and here the system is Dead thermally.This is what will happen to the whole universe
LodyBasha 2 weeks ago
@Nebster173 If the universe in which we now know existed since time immemorial as they claim, it means that it is supposed that he passed a sufficient number of years led to his arrival to the stage of thermal death,So the universe in which we live, it was found since the specified number of years, did not exist before.and will die after a number of years,So What created the universe? it is GOD Because nothing can not be anything without a cause
LodyBasha 2 weeks ago
@LodyBasha
,"So What created the universe? it is GOD"....!!!! lol at you
How do you know that it is God? Cause it says in the Quran....?!!!!
Who wrote the Quran?... God?!!!!!
Where is your God? Nobody knows. hahaha ha haa
Let your thermal dynamic explain the existence of your god . :)
Mixing oranges and apples DOES NOT make you a God.
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@Nebster173 2-Einstein's equation (E=m*c^2)Demonstrate that the Material NOT eternal because it is transformed into energy, as in stars SO the universe is NOT eternal
3-Big Bang proves that the universe has a beginning and will die when the force of gravity is greater than the power of expansion.
Allah said in the quran "47- With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it" ch-51
So everything tells us that the universe has GOD created it from nothing !!
LodyBasha 2 weeks ago
@LodyBasha
Also if Material is Not equal to eternal, then that excludes your God's existence hence your god has not made out of any material. :)
No energy, no material=no God
Mixing thermodynamics to conclude the existence of God, lol
Yet to fail to prove that your God exist. oh wait thats given in the Quran right? LOL
"What Morons"?!!!!!!!!
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
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TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Mr. Welcome here. You are an idiot. Have you ever gone to School? 'No Energy'? haha...you even never studied the elementary level 'Law of Conservation of Energy. 'Leave the issue of GOD HE is supreme you can't think of him cunt, just answer me one question. 'Explain the origin of all the basic forces of the UNIVERSE?' and if you can't answer this question then take your mouth out from here IDIOT.
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani
Ummm let me think hard here. " GOD"?!!!
You are a fucking jack ass, retard, everything you can Not explain, does not point to God.
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@TheMePakistani Who created God? Super God?? lol
MrAtishraja 2 weeks ago
@MrAtishraja
LOL @ You. His name was "Muhammad". :)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
every created thing has a creator, therefore God is uncreated? Therefore God doesn't exist and skeptics were right all along!
heff4heather 2 weeks ago
@heff4heather who created universe and where it came from?
taten21 2 weeks ago
@taten21 There are many speculations as to how it happened, like the collision of matter and anti matter, but as of yet scientists do not have enough evidence to come up with a full fledged theory, that does not mean you can insert God, we just simply do not know for now. Some scientists say it's perfectly viable for the universe to come into existence from nothing.The human mind cannot comprehend the micro or the macro well which only makes it harder to discover the true answers.
heff4heather 2 weeks ago
This Muslim asshole make his own self made philosophy about his Allah. His ass lickers always follow him like a God. He should not be allowed to preach n talk ill about other religion. The evil book koran banned which is actual cause to turn them to terrorists
tony10095 2 weeks ago
please don't mix confusion with stupidity
nazar8th 2 weeks ago
stupifyed..... so me being confused to what you're saying ..... yes i know a man cant give birth but still can have a child with some one.... and he would proble be there when he has a kid..... so yes this is true to.... and ur a Dr.? and confusion is you're best strategy?
fetty517 2 weeks ago
@fetty517 If u are getting confused then der are problems in ur brains.. He's not confusing anybody ..re-run it as many times as possible till u find the logic in his comparison then comment.. its simple and an excellent example!! No doubt :)
romsirox 2 weeks ago
The only truth about islam is that it is from satan and is filled with lies. This idiot,m this thing Dr. Zakir Naik, should be hunted down, charged and convicted for crimes against humanity...
GTCism 2 weeks ago
@GTCism
I agree with you %100.
:)
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@GTCism: I think ur comment and ppl are more of a threat to humanity..!! Isn't it bizzare that wen a learned person talks abt his and other religion with 100% knowledge and it is ur books he knows better than u but when he says it u guys freak out rather than accepting it!! Is doing humanity a kindness but beasts lyk urself wil never get it.. pitty for u too buddy!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
Well i think that you people should STOP making such Bull crap videos about your religion and post them on youtube, you should go on and worship who ever the puck you want but keep it in your own tents, No one needs to know that YOU worship some invisible deity that does not really exist and is of your pigment of your imaginations.
We don't need to know how your prophet was Possessed by Demons, as he needed a psychiatrist (needed to have his head examined).
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 well i think u should then STOP watching such videos on youtube if it bothers u so much.. mind ur own business and worship whatever shit u belive in... but truth is u cant live without islaam whether like it or not either ways u cant leave it.. woo!!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
Well, i think that you "think" too much. :)
I suggest that YOU stop thinking at all, cause it just gets you in trouble. lol
By the way, i am doing fine without Islam, I don't need a half ass Hindu tell me about picking a religion.
You people have more religion that the underwear you people go through. :)
Thats why your religion stinks. lol
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1: What an illogical and loser reply u've given to my comment ...hahaha!! Nice to see that...u bloody well know u belong to a lost religion..and so u technically are a LOSER!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
So by your definition of a "Looser". if i believe in what you and your Quran say, i will be a winner?!!!
You people had 1400 years ahead of us, what have you been doing for the past 1400 years as far as science, technology, medicine, and space explorations> HUh, let me answer that For YOU, ZILCH, Nothing nada. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Hello dude learn ur facts right.. Allah has revealed so much abt science in quran 1400 years ago much before the scientists did....wasted their tym and efforts wen the answer was already in quran right from the big bang theory to human diseases ...etc.. Go give Quran some of ur tym then open ur loud mouth
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
Hello Dudett.
So much about science mankind knew about before Islam and Muhammad could say "Maamma". :)
Copying someone elses book and "Hints about science does not mean that the Quran was or is a science book.
Go and get some facts about all the science in the world BEFORE Islam and Muhammad and then open your mouth / preaching about Islam.
What cure for Human disease has the quran revealed to mankind, except drinking of a camel urine. lol :)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 Well i forgot i was preaching an anti-muslim who'll stink in the hell and who is a fat pig with fatest of brains.. If after having said all of that u dun understand islaam then its a shame on u and ur bloody existence..U wil always keep fighting here on the virtual world till u dun find inner atisfaction and alas! u wud never find dat bcoz u wil nvr happen to love the truth-islaam.. so i pitty u and lyk i said b4 u are a bloody LOSER! So prepare well for hell..yo!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
Yo, i prefer to be "smart" than a dumb ass, who can not make an argument, accept preaching about Heaven and hell. :)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 why useem to be getting scared..hold on ur pants tight coz hell is even more scarier not only its thought!! So keep lingering around islaam n muslims to satisfy ur inner bloody self ..thats what u guys deserve.. lingering around us..haha
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
Lingering around you? LOL
Last time i remembered was Muslims, traveling to the West, such as yourself and your relatives to take advantage of our Educational system, welfare, Healthcare, jobs, inventions and medicine, so YOU tell me, why do we need to linger around smelly people without an adequate education, curry smelling people like you? HUH? lol
:)D
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1: You shud answer that.. lol u make such a fool out of urslf.. first u linger around us u unsatisfied lot then u keep fighting with us and try really hard to prove islaam wrong..but always remain unsuccessful.. WhaT a true looser u really are and then u ask me a question abt urself? haha..u shud tel me what u r doing here?? Just remaining in ur blind & stinky churches or whatevr shit u follow
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
I am here to stop IGNORANCE.
Islam promoted ignorance. :)
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 And how far have u succeeded ?? Let me answer this tym...
Zilch! Nada! Zero!!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1 You yeah you don't need him, all you need is a bunch of doctors to treat your mental illness huh :@. Who are you? nothing, what are you? an idiot. 3 billion people believe in this religion, you know what 'all these people don't like you, they don't hate you as a matter of fact they just don't bloody think of you and people like you'. And yes I can see how well you are going through your life without a religion haha... shamelessly making fun of yourself idiot. Just go cunt
TheMePakistani 2 weeks ago
Apart from giving an answer Dr Zakir is counter questioning and relates to human life example. No question is illogical in my view. it gives me an impression dat u narrow or limit ur mind if u don't want to think beyond or u must define that u have set some boundaries for urself according to ur religion and u don't want to think ahead of those parameters. i believe in a creator but yet in the search of light. which faith to follow?
rviboy12345 2 weeks ago
@rviboy12345: My friend u'll always be unsatisfied and uncertain untill u dun start following islaam...coz islaam is the truth and it gives u inner satisfaction and untill u dun find urself into it u'll be wandering lyk a wanderer in this life.. Quran is the answer to the end of all ur questions and uncertainity
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
The only truth about Islam is knowing that it is a BIG LIE. :)
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1: then whats the truth?
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox
What ever it is, it is NOT Islam. :)
PersianWiseMan1 2 weeks ago
@PersianWiseMan1: Well then u shouldn't comment abt islaam or any religion as a matter of fact.. u shud just mind ur own business and stay in ur narrow world.. but hey...u cant do without islaam..right so ol ur life u'll be haunting around it to satisfy ur guilt of not being a part it.. so sad.. pitty!
romsirox 2 weeks ago
@romsirox @romsirox i am satisfied but i have the desire to learn and quest to find the truth. i follow islam in many ways. islam might be the truth but to convince a neutral person u should be rational and logical in ur arguments rather then emotional which most of people get around.
i m not wandering but thinking independently keeping the peer pressures aside.
rviboy12345 2 weeks ago
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romsirox 2 weeks ago
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@rviboy12345: thats nice of u to have such a broad minded view.. very rare thinking.. i'm happy for u and i pray that u find the truth soon and if u want rational answers what better cud be than Dr zakir Naik.. he has the knowledge word by word of all religions, he has his own website and take some time out to read the holy quran atleast once in life..with a positve attitude off course, it might help! take care
romsirox 2 weeks ago
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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool :p
Angles786 2 weeks ago