i remember listening to this as a kid in 81,,i was truly freaked out...weird and evil...odd album -odd costumes,,odd time for kiss...woudn`t change a thing.
kiss was still huge in the early 80's...around the world even more so ,,but yes their popularity went down with unmasked,,,dynasty sold tons ,,but that was to new fans ,,their hardcore fans in the states -canada started to fizz away by 1981...in europe south america kiss was still as big as ever..and yes in 1977 + ,,kiss was the biggest band anywhere,,bigger than zep and the stones, both these bands by 1977 were losing territory fast and kiss was simply huge,,i remember i lived it!! great song
if you actually take the time to listen to this album, it would be a good album for another band besides KISS! But coming from KISS it sounds very aqward for the most part!
one of my favorite Kiss Albums.. blame my older brother, but he got me hooked on Kiss, MSG, fly to the rainbow, Blackfoot, etc....... this is Kiss doing the unexpected. Love it
@kenzbt Contrary to popular belief, the hand reaching for the door-knocker is not that of Paul Stanley: Bill Aucoin has stated that it belongs to a hand-model, hired specifically for the shoot. The door itself belongs to a Methodist church on Park Avenue, New York City..... Wikipedia
@viciousbill yes it is i am a kiss fanatic that knows it all and that IS pauls hand becouse in an interveiw he said it was DONT POST IT IF U DONT KNOW IT. go kiss army!!!
@viciousbill In the book "KISS behind the mask",Dennis Woloch is quoted as saying..."Thats pauls hand on the cover incidentally.it wasnt his originally.we had somebody elses. he didnt like it. he hinted around pretty heavily that he had nice hands. and we took him down and shot his hands. I made the door that appears on the cover. I brought the photo(of the door from park ave methodist church)to a model maker and he made a door. its only a section of a door. and he made the knocker too.
Kiss may hate it but I love this album. It is a TOTAL left turn from the usual KISS style. I love KISS, but they should do more stuff that stretches the envelope.
GS version of mr crowley. kiss wasn't to happy about this record. Ace said he lisened to it and then smashed it. When I make comments I cant see the text its like black on black I cant see the letters I'm typing right now
"We've done a lot of 'fuck me, suck me' songs and we thought we might like to go a slightly different route." – Paul Stanley, 1982 "I hated that album, that was the icing on the cake when I quit the group. I listened to it, I took the tape and smashed it against the wall." - Ace Frehley, 2001 "As a Kiss record I'd give it a zero. As a bad Genesis record, I'd give it a two." – Gene Simmons, 2003
Sophie is pulling her own band together and its been reported that sophie simmons said "I'm gonna get your boyfreind tonight I'm gonna have my cake and eat it to I have arived." Gene said "Its all talk." Sophie answered "I'm gonna get every single one of them this is what its all about baby ooh yeah, oo yeah oo yeah."
We had a lot of fun with this song in our History class... taken by Mr Blackwell. We'd sit on the front row and sing "You're Not Well, Mr Blackwell". He probably thought we were tits.
Thank God they got back to their roots after this album. After 3 just awful records they came out with Creatures of the Night, which, in my opinion is their hardest album ever. After that it went downhill hard.
One Of my fave kiss albums, dont know why lol, maybe cause i bought it in florida and whenever i listen to it, it reminds me of sitting on Cocoa Beach with this in my CD walkman lol.
@HotaruOfTheDesert That's a cool story...Find that bastard and let him know that he should be banished from the human race...Mr.Blackwell why don't you go to hell !!!!
@HotaruOfTheDesert you didnt perchance go to dean rusk middle school in GA did you? that was our principal as well, and the irony definitely wasnt lost on us.
This song along with Dark Light, I and A World Without Heroes were definitely the best songs on this album, I didn't think this was a bad album but it was definitely not KISS at their best, I still prefer the Elder album over their post-Lick it Up albums though
Does anyone here agree that this song might be considered the first "alternative" metal song? The bass-echo just set the mood for all those crummy alt-rockers who came about 15 years later.
Don't own this album, but I've actually been really impressed by the Youtube vids I've seen of songs from this album, despite the bad wrap it gets from many people. I'm hearing a real variety of sounds. This song is actually really quite unique, almost... minimalist.
I notice the sound seems to fluctuate wierdly a bit in this vid, does the original do that?
hi! i'm Olan Mills because of the photo studio named that which was next to Arman's burgers etc. in lake station....Indiana.....but we really know we're all Texas Tony, right Rhonda?
ya know?...
like....remember Mike (Vit) Burns and Danny Burns?
Hey KISS army...hey hey..order in the station...listen...I am a huge KISS fan, but I demand as well. This song sucks. The worst thing is that "into the void" uses the same "formula": "I never said I was more than I am" = "I'm losing power and I don't know whyyyy", "Do what I want, I don't give a damn" = "Don't even sure if I'll live or die"...c'mon...I analyze all their "job" and it's not fair to do this crap. Shit! C'mon!! Listen to "Dresssed to kill"....that was KISS
"What the hell was Mr Blackwell supposed to be, the main heel in the movie The Elder?" Ya he was the evil incarnate the Boy was supposed to defeat... Been loving kiss since 1975 (The Paul Lynn Halloween special)and still love them ,I love this album One of my faves,a work of art.
The was the only good song on the entire Elder album....ok The Oath and I weren't too bad but this was probably the best. Even then, that little mini-percussion solo in the middle wasn't needed and what the hell was Mr Blackwell supposed to be, the main heel in the movie The Elder?
i'm reading a kiss biography, where everybody in the band give the albums stars, this is what they tought of this album
"Paul stanley: i would give The elder [laughing] a big question mark" "Gene simmons: As a kiss record i give it a zero" "Ace frehley: Two stars" but hey, that's just the band's opinion, i think it's good
Mr Blackwell..seriously..why dont you go to hell.
StudioXTER1 1 month ago
reminds me of "spit".
SamFisherCell 1 month ago
i remember listening to this as a kid in 81,,i was truly freaked out...weird and evil...odd album -odd costumes,,odd time for kiss...woudn`t change a thing.
mooch514 2 months ago
kiss was still huge in the early 80's...around the world even more so ,,but yes their popularity went down with unmasked,,,dynasty sold tons ,,but that was to new fans ,,their hardcore fans in the states -canada started to fizz away by 1981...in europe south america kiss was still as big as ever..and yes in 1977 + ,,kiss was the biggest band anywhere,,bigger than zep and the stones, both these bands by 1977 were losing territory fast and kiss was simply huge,,i remember i lived it!! great song
mooch514 2 months ago
Played live, Gene Simmons could easily have replaced "God of Thunder" with this as his solo bass extravaganza
stargazerhatchet 3 months ago
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
fuzzy8475 4 months ago
A typical Gene Simmons song
evilunixuser1 4 months ago
Best Kiss album.
djdjany 5 months ago
@djdjany Yeah.Best odd Kiss album.RARO,Creatures,Animalize,CN's,Psycho Circus,and COS are ahead of The Elder
robzombys1 5 months ago
@robzombys1 I like this one because it's sooo different....
djdjany 5 months ago
If you were truly a KISS fan.... YOU would NOT find this at all awkward (SuperKISSFan94) YOURSTRULYKISSFAN76!!!!!!!!!
MISSEZHALEMAIDEN 5 months ago
if you actually take the time to listen to this album, it would be a good album for another band besides KISS! But coming from KISS it sounds very aqward for the most part!
SuperKISSFan94 6 months ago
Amazing
gkat1256 6 months ago
1 word-MASTERPIECE
robzombys1 7 months ago 3
This is cool
angeldust1ful 8 months ago
one of my favorite Kiss Albums.. blame my older brother, but he got me hooked on Kiss, MSG, fly to the rainbow, Blackfoot, etc....... this is Kiss doing the unexpected. Love it
Thebigskid 8 months ago
One of Gene's best basslines.
VHTLtdDimarzio 9 months ago
anybody who doesn't like this is not well. and as gene said you can go to hell!!!!!
410missmonkeyful 10 months ago
dite quello che volete, secondo me TECNICAMENTE quest.o è l'album migliore dei Kiss
bisciu1967 1 year ago
@bisciu1967 hai assolutamente ragione! è una vergognia che quasi nessuno conosce questo album...
(scusami per il mio italiano - sono teddesca, sto imparando...^^)
pflaumi17 1 year ago
@bisciu1967 hai assolutamente ragione - peccato che non è conosciuto tanto questo album...
(scusi per il mio italiano - sono tedesca e sto ancora imparando...^^)
pflaumi17 1 year ago
I Have not listened to this song in over 20 yrs and still remember the words to the song.
shycub8263 1 year ago
this is bad ass...talk about far from mainstream
tommywhiteboy 1 year ago
This is CLASSIC
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minoliist 1 year ago
This is the song KISS should play after Gene spits out his blood.
BalazsJOUR3150 1 year ago 9
I sing this in the shower lol
SpaceAceify 1 year ago 2
I think the hand on the cover is Paul Stanleys.
kenzbt 1 year ago 2
@kenzbt Contrary to popular belief, the hand reaching for the door-knocker is not that of Paul Stanley: Bill Aucoin has stated that it belongs to a hand-model, hired specifically for the shoot. The door itself belongs to a Methodist church on Park Avenue, New York City..... Wikipedia
viciousbill 1 year ago
@viciousbill Did not know that hand-model exist...? Cool info b.t.w. Love that door .Thank's. Is there any foot-model out there...?
patlascrap67 1 year ago
@viciousbill yes it is i am a kiss fanatic that knows it all and that IS pauls hand becouse in an interveiw he said it was DONT POST IT IF U DONT KNOW IT. go kiss army!!!
angel6craw 1 year ago
@viciousbill In the book "KISS behind the mask",Dennis Woloch is quoted as saying..."Thats pauls hand on the cover incidentally.it wasnt his originally.we had somebody elses. he didnt like it. he hinted around pretty heavily that he had nice hands. and we took him down and shot his hands. I made the door that appears on the cover. I brought the photo(of the door from park ave methodist church)to a model maker and he made a door. its only a section of a door. and he made the knocker too.
jetwagon 10 months ago 3
@jetwagon .......... i didnt know what , but its super cool ! thanks for sharing
ilovealaska 5 months ago
@kenzbt I always thought that too.
twoofheartsxxx 10 months ago
Kiss may hate it but I love this album. It is a TOTAL left turn from the usual KISS style. I love KISS, but they should do more stuff that stretches the envelope.
BLS1313666 1 year ago
GS version of mr crowley. kiss wasn't to happy about this record. Ace said he lisened to it and then smashed it. When I make comments I cant see the text its like black on black I cant see the letters I'm typing right now
123ihatethiscrap 1 year ago
"We've done a lot of 'fuck me, suck me' songs and we thought we might like to go a slightly different route." – Paul Stanley, 1982 "I hated that album, that was the icing on the cake when I quit the group. I listened to it, I took the tape and smashed it against the wall." - Ace Frehley, 2001 "As a Kiss record I'd give it a zero. As a bad Genesis record, I'd give it a two." – Gene Simmons, 2003
bstensland 1 year ago
no wonder that eric could play the drums of this one.
rodspacer 1 year ago
Some really heavy bass on this tune. Oddly mesmerizing.
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago 2
me second fav .....
DaGroovyOne 1 year ago
Gene is wierd
123ihatethiscrap 1 year ago
@123ihatethiscrap but also a badass dude who's fucked thousands of girls and has millions of dollars... aha
DirtyLittlePsycho 1 year ago
Sophie is pulling her own band together and its been reported that sophie simmons said "I'm gonna get your boyfreind tonight I'm gonna have my cake and eat it to I have arived." Gene said "Its all talk." Sophie answered "I'm gonna get every single one of them this is what its all about baby ooh yeah, oo yeah oo yeah."
123ihatethiscrap 1 year ago
i can't see what's the problem
this is a kick ass song
sounds like any classic KISS song!!!
is awesome!
GOORVY 2 years ago 3
This is a GOOD song Toast to Me Already
I CAN TASTE IT...Taste vei victus.
AngelBirdBlissKliss7 2 years ago
TOAST NOW Please.
REAL KING UPON Men.
go to Hell Now Please.
Yes be banished that means from youtube as well from the human race.
AngelBirdBlissKliss7 2 years ago
gene at his best
janhendrikterpstra 2 years ago 3
We had a lot of fun with this song in our History class... taken by Mr Blackwell. We'd sit on the front row and sing "You're Not Well, Mr Blackwell". He probably thought we were tits.
CorduroyAngel 2 years ago 3
Your HISTORY TEACHERS' NAME WAS MR BLACKWELL ? WHAT U SAYIN MAN?
THATS FRIGGIN SWEET THOUGH
TheHeartOfChrome 2 years ago 2
That Mr. Blackwell sounds like a real sack of crap.
unsanitized 2 years ago
fuck yu
twoo57 1 year ago
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By far, the worst song KISS ever recorded.
selatik1 2 years ago
actually carnival of souls was
twoo57 1 year ago
LOOOVE This song!!! The guitar solo sound a lot like the Destroyer album!!
rockandroll42 2 years ago 3
i thought i was the only one that thought it sounded like that
twoo57 1 year ago
Weird song. But I love it!
NorwegianDirector 2 years ago 3
i agree
weird is cool!
GOORVY 2 years ago
great bass licks...
23Seana 2 years ago
i never liked the Elder but this song is alright
Seanbradley15 2 years ago
Thank God they got back to their roots after this album. After 3 just awful records they came out with Creatures of the Night, which, in my opinion is their hardest album ever. After that it went downhill hard.
BANCA52 2 years ago
Ganondorf's song, definitely.
VicGeorge2K6 2 years ago
The first 26 seconds sound like gene's onstage blood bass solo/noise. cool.
edwads74 2 years ago 2
yeah,, thats Gene
evilunixuser1 2 years ago
co-written by LOU REED people, how cool is that???
KOSMICKEN09 2 years ago 23
Not that cool actually, considering that the musical difference.
UndergroundHub1 2 years ago
@KOSMICKEN09 Reed & Simmons :-P
nikoletka2525 9 months ago
@KOSMICKEN09 Lou had the line "A world without heroes" that's about all he did.
sloelick009 1 month ago
One Of my fave kiss albums, dont know why lol, maybe cause i bought it in florida and whenever i listen to it, it reminds me of sitting on Cocoa Beach with this in my CD walkman lol.
Funeralmoon666 2 years ago
what's up with the volume?? is that the song, am i stoned or r u fuckin' with it??? haha i feel fuckt up...... KISS ROXXX!!!!!! \m/
imagesk8r6969 2 years ago
the volume is fluctuating lol
extremehockeyfan 2 years ago 3
het beste album ooit.................kiss rules
dendeuce 2 years ago
One of the best KISS albums
Athensbashing 2 years ago
You're all so weak you know it makes me ill....
Don't like you now and probably never will...
...had this on vinyl bavk in the day...my fav KISS lp...You're cold and mean and in between your rotten to the core...
JBodine67 2 years ago 3
My middle school principal was an asshole. His name?
Mr. Blackwell.
I would absolutely love to play him this song. Kind of ironic isn't it?
HotaruOfTheDesert 2 years ago 24
thats funny
MrDBZfan22 2 years ago
@HotaruOfTheDesert That's a cool story...Find that bastard and let him know that he should be banished from the human race...Mr.Blackwell why don't you go to hell !!!!
patlascrap67 1 year ago
@HotaruOfTheDesert Lol thats crazy..............
twoo57 1 year ago
@HotaruOfTheDesert you didnt perchance go to dean rusk middle school in GA did you? that was our principal as well, and the irony definitely wasnt lost on us.
cowhead1975 8 months ago
My favorite song of the album!
KissKicksAss1995 2 years ago
TOAST TO ME!!!
TitanstarDH 2 years ago
personally... I think "I" is the best on the album
sblmillerx4 2 years ago 5
The Oath is pretty cool too!
RockStarHouseBand 2 years ago 3
agreed I rules
MrDBZfan22 2 years ago
love this song, this and under the rose is the best from this strange album
lazer70 2 years ago
This song is pretty heavy.
vfgjhj 2 years ago 2
are all u guys commenting serious ? this is painful ,,, and im open and alll over the place ,,, but we all diff :)
therealCanablisS 2 years ago
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neaghdani1 2 years ago
class
neaghdani1 2 years ago
Mr Sir'Whitewell
TitanstarDH 2 years ago
All-round classic KISS sound ...but with better than usual lyrics and arrangement.
I had this on vinyl record back in the day...
Probably my favorite KISS song...
and a world without heroes is one of their best but least known songs...
shanegiggie 2 years ago 2
to be the King? ha I'am the King...of Rock
roll??? woll???
TitanstarDH 2 years ago
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drinking wine...a toast to be The King...
Me...bye kiss they suck anyways
TitanstarDH 2 years ago
the beaver eric singer...is the elder prophecy...have fun bf'ing the beaver
on drums I think drums are dumb
TitanstarDH 2 years ago
fukin class
neaghdani1 2 years ago
KISS - Mr. Blackwell
TonyMcMillAznar 2 years ago
This song along with Dark Light, I and A World Without Heroes were definitely the best songs on this album, I didn't think this was a bad album but it was definitely not KISS at their best, I still prefer the Elder album over their post-Lick it Up albums though
Doobie1975 2 years ago 2
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Does anyone here agree that this song might be considered the first "alternative" metal song? The bass-echo just set the mood for all those crummy alt-rockers who came about 15 years later.
snuffereet 2 years ago
That's kinda of going too far... It's like saying Alice Cooper's Sick Things is the first drone metal song.
VictorGuilherme 2 years ago
Yeah. I could definitely picture this as a Melvin's song.
mwadevilg 2 years ago
good observation!
AngryAgain 2 years ago
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PoppaTonyAznar 2 years ago
Mr. Blackwell
PoppaTonyAznar 2 years ago
Don't own this album, but I've actually been really impressed by the Youtube vids I've seen of songs from this album, despite the bad wrap it gets from many people. I'm hearing a real variety of sounds. This song is actually really quite unique, almost... minimalist.
I notice the sound seems to fluctuate wierdly a bit in this vid, does the original do that?
Frethaygil 2 years ago
This is just a bad ass tune. Great album.
mriccelli 2 years ago
hi! i'm Olan Mills because of the photo studio named that which was next to Arman's burgers etc. in lake station....Indiana.....but we really know we're all Texas Tony, right Rhonda?
ya know?...
like....remember Mike (Vit) Burns and Danny Burns?
ya know.........
remember Vit n' Danny?
...............................
how 'bout the vark?
OlanMillsX 2 years ago
don't forget to tell her that we're in San Anto but not in the twin cit........don't do that!....DON"T GO TO THE TWIN CITY...
...hey, lemme summon lil' Olan.
TonyLook2theEast 2 years ago
cracked sand and blades of grass
CaucaMunkiNext2Tree 2 years ago
TimothyNeilMcMill (nasal stress on the neil)
TimothyNeilMcMill 2 years ago
hey TonyAznarVideo14, don't forget i'm yourself also....i'm Timothy Blair!!!!McMill!!!
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hey AznarAnthonyN, i'm yourself, and she is really gonna love that, too
TonyAznarVideo14 2 years ago
hey AznarAnthonyNeil, i'm yourself and she is just going to love it
TonyAznarVideo14 2 years ago
Rotten to the Core...is a song off their 09 album... a lyric line from this song rotten to the core...F tommy and singer
no ACE no PETER no kiss
WolfinWarrior333 3 years ago
Hey KISS army...hey hey..order in the station...listen...I am a huge KISS fan, but I demand as well. This song sucks. The worst thing is that "into the void" uses the same "formula": "I never said I was more than I am" = "I'm losing power and I don't know whyyyy", "Do what I want, I don't give a damn" = "Don't even sure if I'll live or die"...c'mon...I analyze all their "job" and it's not fair to do this crap. Shit! C'mon!! Listen to "Dresssed to kill"....that was KISS
victorero2006 3 years ago
Great number!
AznarAnthonyN 3 years ago
This song reminds me of when Rhonda Duncan was on top with a cigar in her mouth............i later referred to her as......
Elizabeth Blackwell.......GREAT#!!!!!!!!
AznarAnthonyNeil 3 years ago
"What the hell was Mr Blackwell supposed to be, the main heel in the movie The Elder?" Ya he was the evil incarnate the Boy was supposed to defeat... Been loving kiss since 1975 (The Paul Lynn Halloween special)and still love them ,I love this album One of my faves,a work of art.
David
DwDrake2000 3 years ago
They can take the original members and bring out a new album/dvd and call it, "The Elders"
angelbear68 3 years ago 2
that's pretty funny i like that.
KCVROCKS2008 3 years ago
I'm butt-naked in my bathtub listening to this, got my laptop right here
vfgjhj 3 years ago
The was the only good song on the entire Elder album....ok The Oath and I weren't too bad but this was probably the best. Even then, that little mini-percussion solo in the middle wasn't needed and what the hell was Mr Blackwell supposed to be, the main heel in the movie The Elder?
KHayes666 3 years ago
Great Song!
HollywoodBigBoss 3 years ago
mr. blackwell IS in hell now -lol
tarot 3 years ago
thanks for the upload man!
rock4kiss 3 years ago
i love this sonng, fuck yehs.
neaghdani1 3 years ago 3
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haha this song is so shity
ERIK1091651 3 years ago
dont go to the song if you don't like it just to comment saying you hate it! GEEZZ!!
droppinplates22 3 years ago
Ace and Peter should sue Kiss
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
why
daltonrouse 3 years ago
@daltonrouse Why not ?
fukinblowme 1 year ago
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yea Bret Hart was screwed and is in 3 games, in the Hall of Fame yea whatever
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
Because they LEFT?
marttorn 3 years ago
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gene simmons and paul stanley are fags adulteraters, sick twisted people who should be locked up talking about my mom and dad
F that! to hell with kiss!
TheDareDevil7 3 years ago
screw you
daltonrouse 3 years ago
ok....look who's watching one of their videos?
marttorn 3 years ago
@TheDareDevil7 Talking about your mom and dad?
Who's your dad? Ace? Vinnie? Peter? Just wondering why you would say that.
t0rment2004 1 year ago
i'm reading a kiss biography, where everybody in the band give the albums stars, this is what they tought of this album
"Paul stanley: i would give The elder [laughing] a big question mark" "Gene simmons: As a kiss record i give it a zero" "Ace frehley: Two stars" but hey, that's just the band's opinion, i think it's good
marttorn 3 years ago
i have that book also.
KISS-Behind the mask the complete authorized biography.
daltonrouse 3 years ago
Exactly-
If you were a rock star you would say its shite.
It's whatthe fans think as we are thestupid fks that buy it.
I think The Elder is a piece of art.
Classic album!!
galleyfkr 3 years ago
i think it's a great album, but not as good as their other 80's stuff.
marttorn 3 years ago
thats the name of genes boss (game) in psycho circus! (im a bigger kiss fan tan you if you read this ormy outher comment!
fgusta 3 years ago
16 views holy crap thats none i mean for a good song like this!
fgusta 3 years ago