this is my favorite track by sousas band, even though its loud could we hear it with a large horn to hear the best sound quality, it is very tinny with the small horn
I wonder how they would sound on an electricity-driven machine with electric amplifying and speaker (like a regular stereo, but built to play a cylinder record).A;ll the ones on YouTube seem to be played on acoustic wind-ups.
Bruce that horn was like this one one all brass, it has that same style end on it, not the bell shape. But had a tappered end like a Edison that goes into the reproducer? It also has the welded seem to along the side where the ends meet
@Turkeydoodlers When you say "That horn is like this one, all brass, it has the same style end on it, " what horn are you talking about when you say "this one"? do you have one ?
No Bruce, the one i saw the other day all brass in the antique joint. It has the same style end as this one here but the size of a edisaon standard machine bell horn. The brass one i saw has the same non bell end as this columbia one you have, only its all brass and not painted like yours
@robchalfen As I am not sure about the exact process used to create these 5" Phoenix Cylnders, you should visit the Paul Morris Music website. I believe Part 4 will give you some insight into the mfg. process, if not you could leave a message and Paul will contact you direct. Thanks for watching.
What a great machine in near-perfect cosmetic survival. It plays just as well as new:
no "warble", strong, even tone, for a floating reproducer machine of the era. Nice, original nickel. A rare machine, a keeper. Kudos for sharing. It begins to wind-down but just at the end. The spring is, after all, more than 100 years old, and a bit tired. Kudos!
Cylinder records are vertical groove recordings or (Hill & Dale) so do move up and down as opposed to side to side as in lateral groove Disc Recordings.
I have 2 hill & dale Edison Records. They play reasonably well on my stereo, but the volume is not as good as a later record would have. In fact, on an older phono I had, all I could get was needle scratch ! One disk was piano pieces and the other was Ernie Jones & Billy Hare.
Thanks for your comments. If you expand the information in the upper right, you will see the details of the Cylinder at the very end. The cylinders are made by Paul Morris in the U.K. They are remakes of the original cylinder by Sousa's Band. As for the Springs, you are correct. The motor is the Same as the one found in the Columbia B or Eagle as it was also called.
I am expecting another wonderful Phoenix 5" Concert Cylinder any day now , and when it arrives courtesy of Paul Morris, I will play on Victrolaman's Youtube site.
You are very welcome Ragtime, glad you enjoyed it. I believe this is the first posting of a 5"Concert cylinder playing on Youtube, although I could be mistaken. If you haven't already, be sure and see my other two Ragtime favorites "The King of Rags" and also "The St .Louis Rag" which you will also find under my Videos. Trying to keep those wonderful Old time sounds alive. Thanks again.
Columbia and Edison undertook to advance the state-of-the-art in sound recordings by offering 5" diameter brown wax cylinders records around 1898. Much larger than standard-sized cylinders, concert cylinders delivered on their promise of a louder, clearer recording, but at a price: $5, compared with a typical 50¢ to $1 for standard records and the fact that they needed a special machine to play them, did not make them very popular with buyers. They are extremely expensive when found today.
this is my favorite track by sousas band, even though its loud could we hear it with a large horn to hear the best sound quality, it is very tinny with the small horn
kirtley2010 3 months ago
I wonder how they would sound on an electricity-driven machine with electric amplifying and speaker (like a regular stereo, but built to play a cylinder record).A;ll the ones on YouTube seem to be played on acoustic wind-ups.
EmmetEarwax 4 months ago
Bruce that horn was like this one one all brass, it has that same style end on it, not the bell shape. But had a tappered end like a Edison that goes into the reproducer? It also has the welded seem to along the side where the ends meet
Turkeydoodlers 7 months ago
@Turkeydoodlers When you say "That horn is like this one, all brass, it has the same style end on it, " what horn are you talking about when you say "this one"? do you have one ?
Victrolaman
victrolaman 7 months ago
@victrolaman
No Bruce, the one i saw the other day all brass in the antique joint. It has the same style end as this one here but the size of a edisaon standard machine bell horn. The brass one i saw has the same non bell end as this columbia one you have, only its all brass and not painted like yours
Turkeydoodlers 7 months ago
Your Columbia plays quite well for its age and the fact that its little motor has to deal with a large cylinder. Thanks for this video.
gmmix 10 months ago
thats a big cylinder youve got there
rweerakkody4565 1 year ago
how does Phoenix reproduce them? is this a pantagraphic or electrical dub, or some sort of mold casting?
robchalfen 1 year ago
@robchalfen As I am not sure about the exact process used to create these 5" Phoenix Cylnders, you should visit the Paul Morris Music website. I believe Part 4 will give you some insight into the mfg. process, if not you could leave a message and Paul will contact you direct. Thanks for watching.
Victrolaman
victrolaman 1 year ago
What a great machine in near-perfect cosmetic survival. It plays just as well as new:
no "warble", strong, even tone, for a floating reproducer machine of the era. Nice, original nickel. A rare machine, a keeper. Kudos for sharing. It begins to wind-down but just at the end. The spring is, after all, more than 100 years old, and a bit tired. Kudos!
ReidOphone 1 year ago
See our old Columbia BC? I restored the friction parts nearly thirty years ago.
It plays perfectly, even today. My film is old, though, and the tiny camera does
not do "high fi", with its "automatic volume control". But you see a BC play, folks.
Few of them play anymore...
ReidOphone 1 year ago
I have a quick question about the phonograph, does the needle jump up and down in the grove or does it move left and right like a vinyl record?
peppoj 2 years ago
Cylinder records are vertical groove recordings or (Hill & Dale) so do move up and down as opposed to side to side as in lateral groove Disc Recordings.
Victrolaman
victrolaman 2 years ago
Thank you for the quick reply, it's nice to see yet another enthusiast who takes great care of these fine gems!!
peppoj 2 years ago
I have 2 hill & dale Edison Records. They play reasonably well on my stereo, but the volume is not as good as a later record would have. In fact, on an older phono I had, all I could get was needle scratch ! One disk was piano pieces and the other was Ernie Jones & Billy Hare.
EmmetEarwax 4 months ago
Is this a new recording or an old recording recorded a new cylinder? Sounds very good! Are the springs in this motor the same as the model b?
Thanks
edisonphonographs 2 years ago
Thanks for your comments. If you expand the information in the upper right, you will see the details of the Cylinder at the very end. The cylinders are made by Paul Morris in the U.K. They are remakes of the original cylinder by Sousa's Band. As for the Springs, you are correct. The motor is the Same as the one found in the Columbia B or Eagle as it was also called.
victrolaman 2 years ago
I am expecting another wonderful Phoenix 5" Concert Cylinder any day now , and when it arrives courtesy of Paul Morris, I will play on Victrolaman's Youtube site.
victrolaman 2 years ago
WOW. Fantastic machine it plays wonderfully and the concert cylinder sound to be in mint condition...
I love the song. It has an early cakewalk sound too...."my favorite"
That machine and cylinder are truly gems
Thanks for posting them... : )
RagtimeFreak86 2 years ago
You are very welcome Ragtime, glad you enjoyed it. I believe this is the first posting of a 5"Concert cylinder playing on Youtube, although I could be mistaken. If you haven't already, be sure and see my other two Ragtime favorites "The King of Rags" and also "The St .Louis Rag" which you will also find under my Videos. Trying to keep those wonderful Old time sounds alive. Thanks again.
victrolaman 2 years ago
Columbia and Edison undertook to advance the state-of-the-art in sound recordings by offering 5" diameter brown wax cylinders records around 1898. Much larger than standard-sized cylinders, concert cylinders delivered on their promise of a louder, clearer recording, but at a price: $5, compared with a typical 50¢ to $1 for standard records and the fact that they needed a special machine to play them, did not make them very popular with buyers. They are extremely expensive when found today.
victrolaman 2 years ago
Thank you very much for showing this video with the 5 inch culinder.Were these large cylinders rare? Under what circumstances were they used?
brad600dc 2 years ago