Palmer Method

[Aleczan]

You got fancy-looking B P and R, I gotta practice this! They look neat. I googled Palmer's method and what came up had different B. Yours looks a little bit trickier but I like it more.

[BODaciousVideoClips]

I know how to do this. Plus I'm ambidextrous. I did that on one year.

The Wizard of BOD

[pnyc1969]

Learning the Palmer method is the only practical thing I got out of Catholic School. In 4th grade in 1978 we received a Palmer book that looked to be from the 50s (ours was not a well-funded school). I wish I could find it on Amazon. I bet I'd recognize it. I still use the "final t". It goes up in an arc and ends to the right and is not crossed. I used to be fascinated by the "final r", which I saw in this book and nowhere else. It was a single n hump that continued up and went out with a tail.

[CaptainSchnapps]

Beautiful handwriting!

The only thing I saw that was wrong in the video was the camera shaking. You should buy a tripod and use it. :)

[dtopp313]

D'Nealian handwriting started in the 80's and has caused so many to have terrible penmanship. Sloppy and very hard to read. It was sold as an easy way to teach cursive handwriting. Just add curly cues and swiggles to Manuscript writing. Resulted in the poor handwriting we have now.

[dtopp313]

This is not the correct Palmer Method in the video and is a copy of the program. Palmer Method was based on slant not writing straight up and down. I was a Palmer Consultant for 20 yrs.

[gammondog]

@dtopp313 If you ever venture into posting videos,I would love to see writing in the original method. When I learned cursive we were taught to slant the paper to the left. This created the effect of making the letters appear the lean forward. It made it very pleasant to read.

[dtopp313]

I also have about 10 boxes of Palmer Pens which I have in storage. They have the grip for holding the pens correctly

[cubsrock10997]

@dtopp313 mind giving me a palmer pen? i really need to improve my handwriting

[dtopp313]

I was a Palmer consultant for 20 years and this is not the official Palmer Method in the Video. Palmer was more slanted and this looks like a copy of the program.

[xxxhappygoluckyxxx]

Just beautiful. As a young girl I loved copying my nanna's handwriting and became obsessed with calligraphy. I want my son to learn cursive too. They should teach this in schools nowadays. It's a dying art, what with new media becoming the norm. On another note, I love your "G". I am off to practise it now!

Thanks for posting :)

[cdsballer99]

some of these letters aren't correct according to "The Palmer Method of Business Writing"

[gothicgrowler]

Never liked Palmer Method :/ Is so simple, but I have to admitt it looks pretty when done properly...

[rufflesisastibs77]

Our Lady of Mount Carmel!!!!~ (:

[LuvRK9s]

Amen! My daughter and her friends seriously envy my "natural" ability to write cursive. Of course, it was drilled into me in the 2nd grade at my Catholic school with Srs. Josita and Joanne! God, how do I remember their names? Thank you for my instruction to write beautifully all my life!

[GAMINDORE]

Irritating song. Headaches me.

[gblan]

Oh the painful memories of the Palmer Method. I'm so glad we're waking up as a people and realizing this is basically an antiquated letterstyle. Three cheers for D'Nealian handwriting! The Palmer for the future.

[TickleMeElmo55]

@gblan

"waking up"? Just because you failed at it doesn't mean the method should be abandoned.

[gblan]

@TickleMeElmo55 Hahaha, I failed? I studied calligraphy at the Academy for Fine Arts in New Orleans with Syd Goodwin and have the most beautiful handwriting you've ever seen. Speak for yourself. I have a thorough understanding of letterforms, spacing, connectivity and flow and this Palmer crap is the biggest turd ever foisted on a population. It's slow, clunky, inefficient and fairly ugly.

[TickleMeElmo55]

@gblan

Really! Small world because I did too. I'm Goodwin's favorite student.

[RetroToledo]

I envy you! I think I learned this method too in regular school.

[foolsgold41]

and this is the best example

[foolsgold41]

i like the way you did the upper T, but i like my hupper case Q better, they way you do it looks like a fancy number 2, but hey, nice hand

[inkey2]

Just the sight of this nearly makes me vomit with nervous revulsion......the Palmer Method, Catholic school.....I started in a catholic school in 1960. I endured 6 years of shear hell on earth. Like Holocaust victims I will never forget.....and I will tell my story to all who will listen....catholic school...slapped in the face by nuns, public ridicule was the nuns trademark, told that my Protestant mother could not enter the gates of heaven,....I still have nightmares 50 years later

[magpie4321]

The English translation the 1st verse, I learned is: and let the clouds rain on the just ones

[Denise1934]

Dang your good!! I do my cursive in a different way!!!

[deidaraakatski]

Whats the music from or called?

[magpie4321]

@deidaraakatski An Advent hymn, Rorate Coeli

℣ Rorate coeli desuper et nubes pluant justum

(Drop down dew, ye heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the just)

℟ Aperiatur terra et germinet salvatorem"

(Let the earth be opened and send forth a Saviour")

[Darthmalak12]

That Letter B Is Hard to do lol

[bplatt1069]

Dear gcscils598f08,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news; but like most of us, you were taught something resembling Palmer letter forms and not the "method." To write the way Austin Palmer taught, you must use pure arm movement wherein the wrist is kept flat, or nearly so, and the fingers and wrist passive.

When I discovered through my journey in penmanship that I had not had the proper training, I retaught myself. It wasn't easy but well worth the effort. I encourage you to do the same.

[LiberalPRIEST]

God, I remember teaching the palmer method when I first began teaching years ago.

[deidaraakatski]

Whats the pen you got D: Please tell me,I have alot of pens that depense easily,but It releases to much ink,So whats your pen called .....

[hiroshi2020]

Beautiful! Is that a MontBlanc?

[gabberooni]

@hiroshi2020 Yes, it IS a MontBlanc! Good eye.

[THEGOLDWWE]

wow!..

[lagabarjoonew]

thankx good write

[785tt9gh]

Where can I get the double lined notebook so I can practice?

[gcscils598f08]

@785tt9gh I got it at Staples.

[woodlist]

@785tt9gh

You can make lined paper with Microsoft Word. Use the underscore to make continuous lines.

Just experiment with the spacing, until you get it right. Then print every other line BOLD.

Once you have it correct, save it. You can print out a sheet, and put it underneath your writing paper; like they used to do in the 'Writing-pads' you bought at the newsagent's!

HTH

Good luck.

WL

[photoallergic]

Beautiful handwriting!

[inkey2]

In fact......if you were left handed in the catholic schools you were "forced" to write right handed (keep in mind this was over 50 years ago). There were two reasons why the nuns did not like leftys....(1)..because when everyone else's "right" elbow was sticking out the leftys "left" elbow was sticking out.....and the one thing that the Catholic schools would not tolerate was a lack of visual uniformity. (2) It was considered evil

[inkey2]

OMG...does this take me back. I went to the Catholic Schools from 1960 to 1966. Penmanship was an actual class you took each day. At the end of the year we even had to pass a penmanship test. This test consisted of copying a selected passage from a book.....a pretty long one actually. It would take most of the day for us to write it over and over and over and over till it met our nuns satisfaction. If you were left handed you were screwed....the nuns hated leftys

[mydlands]

I went to public grade school in North Dakota and learned the Palmer Method in 2nd grade. Then I moved to Texas in 3rd grade and learned a new system all over again (differences in F, P, R and T, but otherwise similar). Texas worked the Palmer right out of me, even though I already knew how to write and my classmates were just learning. Oh well.

Anyhow, thanks for the vid. Your handwriting is lovely, and not just for the Palmer. :)

[LDSanswers]

How long did you have to practice drills one and two before you had them down pat?

[okpapereat]

whats the song called?

[gcscils598f08]

@okpapereat sorry, not sure. got it from AudioSwap library (I originally had Alanis Morissette's "Forgiven").

[magpie4321]

@okpapereat Rorate Coeli--It's and Advent hymn. ℣ Rorate coeli desuper et nubes pluant justum

(Drop down dew, ye heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the just)

℟ Aperiatur terra et germinet salvatorem"

(Let the earth be opened and send forth a Saviour")

[sangXroyal]

beautiful :)

[LolToalNoobs]

I need tips on how to get better :( I practice almost everyday but its so hard to make it neat unless i go really slow... unfortunately I was never taught cursive in school :(

[amjPeace]

The only difference from how I learned is that we would put the hats on the upper case F and T after drawing the body, not before.

Many kids today can't even read cursive, let alone write it.

[tuff321]

Wow really like this writing .i wish i could write like this .mm does anybody know the name of the song in the background it sounds really nice ????

[XxXTheBoxerXxX]

Wow this is pretty easy it only took me a little bit to get this down.

[BigAgitator]

When I look back at my handwriting from catholic school it looks like yours. My handwriting is now chicken scratch. It just went *poof* and now all that I learned is gone. Ha ha ha

[darrenmsparrow]

I never wrote in cursive, when i tried i hated the look of it so i write in block. Funnily enough my primary school teacher said I'd never get anywhere writing in block, but I had the last laugh.

[inkey2]

@darrenmsparrow ....LOL...."funnily" ????? LOL

[quutamo87]

I'm left handed and this is kinda hard for me T_T

[rubberbandman9999]

i learned cursive then i forgot a ton of it.

[lichipoppy]

Your handwriting just BLEW MY MIND.

[hitmankiddo]

its nice to change your handwriting once in a while <3

[gatoni]

wow....so people actually teach specific handwritin to students at catholic schools?

i still find it hard to believe....why is such a thing required?

[james0tucson]

@gatoni

It's a culture that values discipline and conformity. A standard approach to penmanship is really just one small aspect of something that is far larger, culturally.

[inkey2]

@gatoni yes, in the Catholic schools...."penmanship" was an actual class you took each day. Check out the two postings I left here

[rontruthkillings123]

nice writing :):):):)

[TheMysteryman111]

Your capital Q looks like a 2 but anyway nice writing :) :) :D

[polyester00]

@TheMysteryman111 a cursive Q really looks like a 2

[fp3shb]

I taught myself cursive in Kindergarten to use the Palmer method with one of those dry erase practice boards, and thank god because where I went to school they taught the horrible D'Nealian method starting in second grade. It is that method that has caused people to have such poor handwriting these days in my opinion. I take great pride in my script. I am so happy I wasn't forced to learn D'Nealian, and taught myself the Palmer method. The REAL way.

[tcfuturevet]

@fp3shb I agree with you !!!! D'Nealian method is horible! The letter formations are terrible, but that seems like they use it everywhere! My cursive is sorta a mix of both, i kinda created it lol

[Salocin27]

nice but you dont use the "muscular" movement they talk about.. do you?

[this1tube]

When my mother attended public school in Philadelphia in the 1930's and 1940's (when the Philadelphia Public School System was considered "tops" in the nation), the Palmer Method was taught. It was, and still is, taught in the Parochial schools in Philadelphia. I attended a public elementary school in the suburbs of Philadelphia in the 1960's and we were taught the Palmer Method as well. People are always telling me how beautiful my handwriting is. It's still not as nice as my mom's.

[SteveAndrewLangford]

Would you be able to give us some tips on improving handwriting. I see a few letters which aren't written the conventional way. Or at least elaborate a bit here please.

[gcscils598f08]

Practice with lined paper to make your letters uniformly sized! Which letters are unconventional?

[1873Winchester]

@gcscils598f08 Well the upper capital G, Q I would not have recognized unless paired with their lower case analouges. Some of the other letters also look like lower case except just bigger, such as the A, M, N and S and both Z's. That's a new phenomenon to me, possibly because I am from Finland. I am currently trying to learn the palmer method (and right handed writing) currently.

[fdarcy9]

@gcscils598f08 The "F", "B" and "r" seem different to the conventional Palmer method which I've seen in old books. But maybe that's just the way you were taught, and there are numerous ways of writing cursive.

[karmelicanke]

@SteveAndrewLangford Thanks for the memory of seeing the Palmer script border above the blackboard and remembrance of St. Joseph Sisters at Holy Rosary School, Hamilton.

[twintowerxx]

I didn't use that kind of script enymore I use like a coperplate

[eatfats]

ugly

[Shasfin]

Oh, it's really beautiful.

I like legible handwriting, although I can use it only when I have enough time. I'm very slow in it. Normally I use my standard handwriting, which was taught me at school, but it's not that beautiful (and legible).

[killer4Tim]

My mom signed me up for Catholic school, but im realy baptist christian. While I was there I learned this. I usually write in this, I sometimes use the Original cursive. Nice

[bambitta1]

i will o to catholic school in summer vacation im excited

[Miniver765]

I'm not a Catholic school alumni, but this is the method I learned to write by, and I STILL receive compliments about my penmanship nearly forty years later. Sadly though, I think this is rarely taught in schools now as children of the present age are all permanantly tethered to some electronic device. Younger co-workers of mine have a difficult time reading my handwriting since they were taught to simply block print everything.

[JoeRandom13]

Very nice. Thank you.

[Jf802]

I still have my Palmer Certificate from 1963.. wish my handwriting were as good now as it was back then!

[BruceDeitrickPrice]

Many people today don't know how to write script--they print everything. I suspect this is another bad side effect of Whole Word. Handwriting calls attention to individual letters, and thus defeats Whole Word. So the Education Establishment, in order to keep their gimmick, eliminated handwriting. Anybody know for sure?

[gammondog]

You write in a beautiful hand! That fountain pen added a nice nostalgic touch. As I remember, we were required to use fountain pens when learning script.

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[crx602]

u good ! music kinda scarry for me lol

[gcscils598f08]

hahaha I had Alanis Morissette's "Forgiven" but youtube made me change it.

[Swallowchllorox]

You're very good at writing this way. =)

[omgcancer]

My surname is Palmer

[iruleulose]

It's so neat!

[tabitwin]

can you suggest a book that I can read to learn how to write like this?

[messmer777]

Palmer should be written at about a 52˚angle, yours is nearly vertical, though it is nice handwriting.

[trickmastermonkey]

what is it about catholic schoolgirls and their agonizingly neat penmanship that i find so mesmerizing.

my dexterity is pretty good when it comes to drawing, but the writing part is a whole different story.

so ive been working on this kind of handwriting!