You are an earnest person for Christ. If you want to talk to J.W.'s....These video's will be used to plant seeds. If a person is seeking God and TRUTH, they will eventually see the error of the Watchtower. You do not have to feel guilty about "MOVING ON".
Hello, I came across your videos while watching something relating to Judaism. I don't quite understand the concern with J's Witnesses?? With hundreds of denominations everywhere, why not just leave them to their own doings? Though a Jewish person, I watched your whole video. There is a Jewish group called Karaite Jews who follow a line seemingly similar to yours regarding scriptures. Good day.
@stevenryhudi The reason I don't let them "to their own thing" is the same reason why Jesus and the early church didn't just let the Jews "to their own thing." I want to see JW's come to become born again (John 3:3).
@theapologeticfront Jehovah's Witnesses are already 'born again' you just don't understand our beliefs very much.We believe John 3:3-Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 1:13-they were born,not from blood or from fleshly will or from man's will,but from God.2 Corinthians 5:17-in union w/Christ,he is a new creation;the old things have passed away.1Peter 1:3-he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus.vs.23-given a new birth.1John 3:9,10
@eternityandforever so you are claiming that all JW's are born again? I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I have done a fair amount of research on the JW's in addition to involving myself with 2 years of study at various kingdom halls as well as attending meetings. I've also gathered nearly every publication ever produced by the Watchtower and read a great deal of it. Again, i'm no expert, but I don't believe i've misrepresented JW's in any way.
@theapologeticfront Yes, we are definitely 'born again' the ones who are 144,000,the heavenly calling. WE are figuratively 'born again' at our baptism. We put away the old life,our former life,and we are now having a 'new life' all dedicated to serving God and following His Son,Jesus.As long as we look to the value of Jesus' shed blood,and pick up 'our torture stake' and continue to follow him,we have this hope.Luke 9:23-If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his...
@eternityandforever so not all JW's are born again in the sense in which Jesus spoke about in John 3:3? Where does the Bible speak about being "figuratively born again?" I only know of the Bible speaking of born again in one exclusive sense.
I hear ya Mike..MM777 here. I still have a heart for JW's but I've moved on too. As you can see on my new channel, I'm reaching out to the UFO/newage community. I have had a decent amount of experience with the paranormal but partly hid what I've seen, what I know, and what I think on this subject. But, with the storm brewing stronger and stronger, I refuse to stay silent. I'm sure some may say I've flipped my lid lol. I do believe that the UFO end time delusion will deceive man. Jesus help us.
I suppose I am showing you how in our modern day of technology and information a lie as big as 911 can succeed, how can people question that a lie started by the Roman Empire (Trinity) would not also have the same easy success.
@jaymurtii The WBTS information can be viewed at our website .org and also on the watchtower site, from these sites you can view, read and download the public and congregation watchtower and awake, please go to the site and pick which issue or topic discussion you believe has been misrepresented and show a scriptural defense for your argument.
@thejahoflife Brings to Mind the Two Mothers at 1 Kings 3:16-28 on how people fight over scripture, when the resolve is mentioned by Jesus at Mat 22:34-40, which he used from Lev.19:18 & Deu.6:4,5. Whether I'm Jew, Muslim, Non-witness Christian, or JW if we look into the meaning of these word and understand them, instead of murdering each other with doctrine,......
@jaymurtii Can you look at the Bible and Jesus teachings without the influence of the WTBTS and the Govern Body? Can you say that you are truly carrying your cross\torture-stake if you are under the influence?
@jaymurtii I believe I have found the truth, yes. All the evidence of the bible is pointing at it. Can I ask how you see the scripture at Acts15:17 and 15:14
@jaymurtii 1 kings 3 through 6 is this weeks bible study/commentary. Resolution was divine wisdom. Mathew 22:34-40 clearly states love for God and man, the problem is which God? Lev 19:18 shows love for fellow man and Deu 6:4-5 again is love of God (Jehovah) again are we talking about the same God? because the God of the bible is not interested in hearing from 1. Unrepentant sinners Mathew 7:21 and 1Peter 3:12 Isaiah 1:15-17 or 2. people who don't know him Romans 10:2 I looked at your channel..
@jaymurtii You seem like myself, a knowledge seeker. Are you among those who believe that the twin towers fell as a result of the planes that hit them? Do you see the way that this world is under influence and total control?
@thejahoflife In fairness, What response do you have here? Is God (in this scripture) the Holy Spirit or The Father, we know it is not the son because of the content. Jesus has been dead here for 63 years.
@jaymurtii Keep in mind Jay, people within the congregation have been dishonest, treacherous etc...but once discovered they are dealt with. I have witnessed this myself. Nobody alone is a judge of the other but we do follow the process laid out in the bible regarding problematic individuals.
The TRUTH as we JW's call it is easy and we can easily answer Rev 1:1 because we don't try to fit it into a box. The revelation given to Jesus by God was given to Jesus ........by GOD!!!!
I am not surprised that you will TARGET those who don't currently have spiritual direction and also Jehovah's Witnesses who "know somethings wrong". You blocked me when I was under a different Moniker because your argument was not going your way. I will ask you here again what I asked you then. If the Trinity is true and God is not a God of confusion then at Rev 1:1 Jesus is Given a revelation by God...so 1. why did he need to have it given to him?, and 2. Was God The father or The Holy Spirit?
@thejahoflife I don't remember blocking you, but if I did, it was probably because you were being rude. If you really want to talk, and really want answers to your questions, let's talk man-to-man. I just don't have any interest in having long-winded internet discussions
@theapologeticfront No I was never rude. You ventured into continually assaulting our beliefs much like tim Kilgore,21 crosscheck,NewageGamer,Poconoporker and too many to name have done. You found in the end that we are unaffected by it because of :Watchtower Indoctrination. You drew the wrong conclusion, all we have done is to stick close to Jehovah, its to him we render sacred service through his son (our King) Jesus Christ. We imitate Jesus and if you had peered into us THAT! is what you find
@theapologeticfront Not a problem dude. thanks for the apology. I do appreciate something about your style of video dialogue. you are calm and non aggressive and for the most part not sarcastic. We don't debate you and others to prove ourselves correct. we do it because We are running out of time and people need to hear what we know. have you ever really looked closely at Acts 15:14 and 15:17 Please read 15:17 and really try to see that it is about us.
@thejahoflife Thanks for the compliments. I'll read those verses in their context to derive their meaning and not try to "squeeze" anything else into them. If you want to discuss it, i'll do so in person but not here.
@theapologeticfront May I ask you a non related question please? It is a true or false question and after you answer it I can make my point brief and with respect. the twin towers eventually fell as a physical result of the planes that hit them. true or false?
@theapologeticfront The vast majority (over 95%) feel that way and the "probably" portion of your answer indicates that you feel no need to find the truth. But the truth is its impossible for the answer to be true. IMPOSSIBLE!! It defies physics and science to such a degree that anyone (after reviewing the physics) that answers in the affirmative has been successfully lied to. I am using this analogy because it is fitting .
@thejahoflife or could it just be that I haven't reviewed the facts to enough depth to make an educated decision? There are about a million other issues that i'm far more interested in than 9/11. So because I haven't taken the time to do an investigation on a governmental conspiracy, I "feel no need to find the truth" and this supposedly translates to spiritual things? Seriously? You seem like a nice guy, but i'm going to end the discussion here unless you contact me personally.
@MCO4Help yes, because those who are so brave behind the keyboard will almost never talk to you man-to-man. Though i'm keeping Skype up and running, I think i'm going to start putting my google voice phone number out there. Because its the searchers and the doubters who I really want to reach. You can only play Bible ping-pong with DefendingYHWH so much!
It's that way sometime, someone does something for a while and then feels it is right to stop and do something else. Usually other people then carry on with fresh energy and insight, a bit like the passing on of a baton, perhaps. I'll await the developments with interest. I have just made a new commitment to bible reading, reading through in big chunks, covering lots of ground in a short time, rather than intense study of smaller chunks, (later!) and am feeling blessed already as a result.
Thank you so much for your videos. They were extremely helpful for letting me get out of the WT society. This is amazing work that you've done here and thank you so much for leaving your videos up for future people coming out.
All the below satanic religions have more adherents than the JW's in number, would it not be in your best interest to use the "internet" to reach this far greater audience than the "hardnosed JW?"
As you know Mike, the JW's recently did a campaign about the "destruction" of all false religions, so enjoy the little time you have left with the "Grace Fellowship" befor its & its adherents violent removal from the world scene, permanently.
"Stern, hardnosed JW who is set in his beliefs", lol, would you have accused Jesus of the same?
Mike erm, will you be doing videos on islam, atheism, judaism, sikhism, hinduism or hey, what about the sophistry of evolution???
For a fact you will not, particularly against islam or evolution, because to stand against these two clear doctines of satan you need courage, something NO organisation, worldwide, other than the JW's are continually is doing, as our latest releases PROVE!
@SonofThunder120 Actually, yes. I do plan on taking on those things you mentioned. But as to your statement about no org taking on Islam or evolution? Are you serious???? Non-JW's have done more damage to evolution in a second than JW's have done in a lifetime. Show me one JW publication that refutes evolution more powerfully than Meyer's "Signature in the cell."
@SonofThunder120 Of course the WT has published literature on the subject. I'm not denying that. And I don't doubt that there are compelling arguments within them. But what i'm saying is that those few books don't hold a candle to what is being published by guys like Stephen Meyer. Read "Signature in the Cell" and you'll see one of the most devastating critiques of evolution ever published.
@theapologeticfront Mike, Not one organisation other than the JW's comes even close, the rest of christendom as a collective could not accomplish this, yet JW's number only 7.5 mill, erm, go figure.
We accomplish this on voluntary donations/time worldwide, does Stephen Meyer?, erm no!
@SonofThunder120 wow. Ok. I'm actually trying to find some common ground here, but there you go completely bashing Meyer without even reading him. There is no reasoning with you. Why do I even bother?
I merely did a fact based comparisson between S Meyer and JW's.
How many people go door to door refuting this argument during their own unpaid time Mike?
Does Mr S Meyers
How many people do you know that spend hours on end doing research in order to rebuff and couner evolution without wage/profit or individual fame Mike?
I did not bash him, I countered your unreasonableness against JW's again.
Mike, please, I am not against individual efforts who fight against evolution mate.
Ed Stein did a fantastic documentary called "expelled the movie", its all about the fight between the 2 camps (evo vs creatio), I use this documentary too on my ministry!
But, Ed Stein can only reach those who know the movie exists through advertising, many dont even know the movie exists, many JW's too.
S Meyers faces the same problem, no matter how good it is.
@theapologeticfront Too, as you already know, we are "kingdom preachers" not scientific argumentors.
As far as your slap at the WT for "not holding a candle" to guys like S Meyers, erm, this is not a competition Mike as to who can write the best anti evolution article.
Credit to S Meyers sincerity, however, will you and the Grace Fellowship give millions of free copies away, face to face, worldwide in more the 2000 languages???
For a fact, the answer is a loud, resounding, NO NO NO!!!
@SonofThunder120>"Regular articles to debunk evolution appear in Awake"
So what. That doesn't prove a thing. The devils also believe Creator God (Jms2:19). Thus it's possible for man to confess God by their mouth, and their idolatrous hearts be far from Him. Is29:13;Mt15:8;Rm1:16-32. And these conscience minded JWs themselves clearly lay this out at their web-site on the JWs idolatry:
The WBTS "Worldwide" articles on evolution are worthless and laughable in comparison to the information provided by credible Christian ministries. One such Ministry comes to mind:
The Institute for Creation Research:
Indepth scientific and biblical information regarding the creation/evolution controversy:
Not all JWs are idolatrous working as witnesses for their organization. Many JWs are underground in the org helping JWs out of this cult run by false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4)
@SonofThunder120>"Give the article published by the JW's that made you chuckle then?"
To be honest, I weep about what JWs religious rulers say in publications. But after 10yrs of being a witness of the truth Christ Jesus, to witnesses of WT organization: all one can do is laugh on things:
Recently, their reformed position (new light) on "this generation" made me laugh. JWs call it "the overlap doctrine". This is at least the 5th -> 7th time they changed it. The god of the WT is very confused.
And, The Institute for Creation Research = icr (dot) org are not false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4) like JWs human religious rulers are.
See this new YouTube Video on WBTS book:
"The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah - How?"
Video:
"Are Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets?"
watch?v=s-MVRD0V5OA
Utterly all literature from WBTS printing presses is worthless. It comes from false prophets and false teachers. It cannot be used by any seeker of God's truth.
In this comment section, have shown you conclusive evidence that all WBTS literature cannot be trusted by any seeker of God's truth. WBTS are false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4).
Those who rely on, and publicly promote WBTS literature, are either:
@barbsinclair Not conclusive at all, clearly you have never heard Mike say "in my opinion" have you? Its a frequent phrase, but then, you would know wouldnt you?
Either you are delluded or are delluding?
Your all bark and no bite little puppy.
If there are maggots in the congregation plying their apostate wares, then, Jesus, as the head of the congregation will clear them out in due course. Read the Bible, its happened befor.
Maggots eat is dead flesh, fitting eh?, You perhaps?
@barbsinclair Actually Mr Obtuseinclair, I was born muslim, so, Im hardly qualify for either, fact.
This makes me informed & experienced, something you lack.
For a fact, you would NEVER say these things to a muslim or an evolutionist.
JW's stand to be counted unlike you.
You are a cowardly fraud ,an opinionated obtuse, disgruntled, propaganda promoter with a weak minded hidden agenda against JW's who attacks peaceful people with impunity, fact.
Did you see the Jehovah's Witnesses web site? I support the JWs - and you come along and hatefully call JWs "maggots" (which actually describes the WT memorial)
Read my comments again, and see the web site and this video. After that, then maybe you MIGHT understand issue's at hand. We can all hope and pray:
@SonofThunder120 >"I was born muslim...makes me informed & experienced, something you lack"
I witness to Muslims, met some who converted to JW. One thing JWs do well, is prove Koran is not "the word of God," and give JWs credit for that. But, ex-muslim converts to JW religion who "received the love of the truth" Christ Jesus, study the Word of God finding out JWs are a cult of Christianity and leave. I've met 3-4 ex-mulsims who became JW, then became ex-jws; now disciples of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Only JWs who literally "stand to be counted" is their "little flock" namely JWs self appointed "holy temple class" "the faithful and discreet slave and its governing body" who teach Jesus died and shed his blood for only that elect small class who stand to be counted at 144,000. All other sheep must "loyally submit" to this elite class considering it their "sacred duty" to obey them. WT 4/1/2007 p24
Yes, its fitting because that's exactly what occurs world-wide in JWs Kingdom Halls Annual memorial of Christ's death. Emblem partakers are as maggots who symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a forever dead man's body:
Jesus "died as a man and remains dead as a man forever" - WT 4/15/1987 p5
"the man Jesus is dead, forever dead" - Studies in the Scriptures V5/1899, p454
I can't thank you enough Mike for your love and concern for those trapped in this cult like myself. Waking up and breaking free of the WATCTOWER CORP and the 'governing body of old crones' mind control is no easy matter, but your videos sure did help my mind escape. Thanks again.
I hope the best for you and that you will humble yourself and realize that there are those out there who really care about you. You have a good mind, but at the end of your road is a mist. This is a cloud mass obstructing your prayers and understanding regarding Jehovah.
Bless you and may accurate knowledge become yours.
@nibornagrom Hey Robin, I appreciate your kind words. I really like you and have the same sentiments towards you. As to Matt. 24, I just don't have any interest in playing Bible ping-pong with you, especially on eschatology. Why? Because your ultimate authority is not the Bible, and since you can't understand the Bible without the org, what could I possibly say to show you what is correct?
I think my last encounter reasoning with you was not ping-pong. You simply got it wrong. In the past I have been quick to admit when I misspoke. I was only hoping you would do the same. I never quote the Watchtower in my discussions. I only use the Bible. Since many Witnesses leave the congregation for Christendom, I would think that an ongoing discourse would be exactly what you would want.
@nibornagrom Robin, the fact of the matter is, I just don't have the time to engage in long-winded internet discussions anymore. And I especially don't have time to have internet discussions with JW's who are faithful to the org. As long as "to follow the org is to follow Christ," then there is absolutely nothing I could ever say to show you what Matt. 24 is really teaching. Otherwise, i've always liked you, you've always been polite to me, and I thank you for that :-)
@theapologeticfront But even if I chose to engage you in dialogue, why would I talk about eschatology? Having a correct eschatology will not make you right with the Creator; but being born again will. I would just find it completely unprofitable to spend time engaging in non-salvation issues with a JW when there are much bigger theological issues to deal with.
@nibornagrom Quintessential Jehovah Witness VooDoo,....You have the same Insight as the Governing Body. You have demonized his character by saying that he is not worthy of communication with Jehovah. That's a pretty destructive way to use Jehovah.
If I have in any way besmirched his integrity as a person, I apologize to him and you.
He admits he has a long standing relationship with Jehovah's Witnesses. I was only reminding him of what he has learned and what he is turning his back on.
Mike I think you are failing in your effort because you can't show from Scripture what is right and wrong. Your last video concerning Matthew 24:14 was completely wrong. You never got back to me. You completely got it wrong and you won't admit it. That is not going to change.
The FDS was prophesied to appear in that same chapter so of course you want to discredit that Chapter. It's to bad you can't handle the truth. Perhaps other Evangels will see the futility of their ministry and shrink away.
Hey Mike. Praying that your new channel will be a blessing to both you and those who watch the videos that you make. I admire your discernment on knowing when something has run it's course and your willingness to make a change in direction.
Brother, you have shown yourself to be a good steward of the Word of faith, and as such, a fruitful ambassador for Christ with a heart to win souls to Him. I pray our Lord shall bless your steps in the way.
Proverbs 11:30 "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." [Dan 12:3]
Some good points Mike.You can't help ANYONE who doesn't have questions about their beliefs..who thinks their traditions and systems are flawless. You helped me,but I DID have questions.So thanks for that!I always appreciate your demeanor and approach too.We could all learn from it.I too am here to help those who understand how deception doesn't discriminate and how it works and how possible it is that certain traditions are deceptions.
@entrsnm3 What are you suggesting here?
That no JW has given you a biblical reason for there belief and that they have to confer with the WT first !
Your inability to convince JWs is more likely down to the fact that what you believe is biblically incorrect.
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You are an earnest person for Christ. If you want to talk to J.W.'s....These video's will be used to plant seeds. If a person is seeking God and TRUTH, they will eventually see the error of the Watchtower. You do not have to feel guilty about "MOVING ON".
59michelle 7 months ago
I wish you all the very best. I have seen a few of your videos and I like them very much. I plan to watch the rest of your videos.
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Halle524 1 year ago
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Jehovah's witnesses are cordially invited to "remain in the teaching of Christ" ...
2 John 1:9
... and to learn from Christ when He started to reign in Heavens
check out the study at my "website" , and see if what you know is correctly based upon the "teaching of Christ"
Let the peace of Christ be upon those who "dwell in the teaching of Christ" ,
because they have both the Father and the Son.
tidingsbearer 1 year ago
Hello, I came across your videos while watching something relating to Judaism. I don't quite understand the concern with J's Witnesses?? With hundreds of denominations everywhere, why not just leave them to their own doings? Though a Jewish person, I watched your whole video. There is a Jewish group called Karaite Jews who follow a line seemingly similar to yours regarding scriptures. Good day.
stevenryhudi 1 year ago
@stevenryhudi The reason I don't let them "to their own thing" is the same reason why Jesus and the early church didn't just let the Jews "to their own thing." I want to see JW's come to become born again (John 3:3).
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront OK, best wishes,
SR
stevenryhudi 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Jehovah's Witnesses are already 'born again' you just don't understand our beliefs very much.We believe John 3:3-Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 1:13-they were born,not from blood or from fleshly will or from man's will,but from God.2 Corinthians 5:17-in union w/Christ,he is a new creation;the old things have passed away.1Peter 1:3-he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus.vs.23-given a new birth.1John 3:9,10
eternityandforever 8 months ago
@eternityandforever so you are claiming that all JW's are born again? I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I have done a fair amount of research on the JW's in addition to involving myself with 2 years of study at various kingdom halls as well as attending meetings. I've also gathered nearly every publication ever produced by the Watchtower and read a great deal of it. Again, i'm no expert, but I don't believe i've misrepresented JW's in any way.
theapologeticfront 8 months ago
@theapologeticfront Yes, we are definitely 'born again' the ones who are 144,000,the heavenly calling. WE are figuratively 'born again' at our baptism. We put away the old life,our former life,and we are now having a 'new life' all dedicated to serving God and following His Son,Jesus.As long as we look to the value of Jesus' shed blood,and pick up 'our torture stake' and continue to follow him,we have this hope.Luke 9:23-If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his...
eternityandforever 8 months ago
@eternityandforever so not all JW's are born again in the sense in which Jesus spoke about in John 3:3? Where does the Bible speak about being "figuratively born again?" I only know of the Bible speaking of born again in one exclusive sense.
theapologeticfront 8 months ago
I hear ya Mike..MM777 here. I still have a heart for JW's but I've moved on too. As you can see on my new channel, I'm reaching out to the UFO/newage community. I have had a decent amount of experience with the paranormal but partly hid what I've seen, what I know, and what I think on this subject. But, with the storm brewing stronger and stronger, I refuse to stay silent. I'm sure some may say I've flipped my lid lol. I do believe that the UFO end time delusion will deceive man. Jesus help us.
PlanosLie 1 year ago
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CORRECTION: "...will deceive many".
PlanosLie 1 year ago
I suppose I am showing you how in our modern day of technology and information a lie as big as 911 can succeed, how can people question that a lie started by the Roman Empire (Trinity) would not also have the same easy success.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife Has the WTBTS been dishonests?
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii The WBTS information can be viewed at our website .org and also on the watchtower site, from these sites you can view, read and download the public and congregation watchtower and awake, please go to the site and pick which issue or topic discussion you believe has been misrepresented and show a scriptural defense for your argument.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife its a simple yes or no question. No debate needed!
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii I will ask you a simple question just like i asked entrsnm3. Q.Who is playing the part of God in Rev 1:1 ?
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife Sir/Madame, I am grateful for your question and I will answer it. My question is have the WTBTS been dishonest yes or no?
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii Wrong yes, dishonest no.
And my Question?
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife Brings to Mind the Two Mothers at 1 Kings 3:16-28 on how people fight over scripture, when the resolve is mentioned by Jesus at Mat 22:34-40, which he used from Lev.19:18 & Deu.6:4,5. Whether I'm Jew, Muslim, Non-witness Christian, or JW if we look into the meaning of these word and understand them, instead of murdering each other with doctrine,......
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii Can you look at the Bible and Jesus teachings without the influence of the WTBTS and the Govern Body? Can you say that you are truly carrying your cross\torture-stake if you are under the influence?
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii I believe I have found the truth, yes. All the evidence of the bible is pointing at it. Can I ask how you see the scripture at Acts15:17 and 15:14
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@jaymurtii 1 kings 3 through 6 is this weeks bible study/commentary. Resolution was divine wisdom. Mathew 22:34-40 clearly states love for God and man, the problem is which God? Lev 19:18 shows love for fellow man and Deu 6:4-5 again is love of God (Jehovah) again are we talking about the same God? because the God of the bible is not interested in hearing from 1. Unrepentant sinners Mathew 7:21 and 1Peter 3:12 Isaiah 1:15-17 or 2. people who don't know him Romans 10:2 I looked at your channel..
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@jaymurtii You seem like myself, a knowledge seeker. Are you among those who believe that the twin towers fell as a result of the planes that hit them? Do you see the way that this world is under influence and total control?
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife In fairness, What response do you have here? Is God (in this scripture) the Holy Spirit or The Father, we know it is not the son because of the content. Jesus has been dead here for 63 years.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
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@thejahoflife Can you look at the Bible and Jesus teachings without the influence of the WTBTS and the Governing Body? Yes or No.
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii Keep in mind Jay, people within the congregation have been dishonest, treacherous etc...but once discovered they are dealt with. I have witnessed this myself. Nobody alone is a judge of the other but we do follow the process laid out in the bible regarding problematic individuals.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
The TRUTH as we JW's call it is easy and we can easily answer Rev 1:1 because we don't try to fit it into a box. The revelation given to Jesus by God was given to Jesus ........by GOD!!!!
thejahoflife 1 year ago
I am not surprised that you will TARGET those who don't currently have spiritual direction and also Jehovah's Witnesses who "know somethings wrong". You blocked me when I was under a different Moniker because your argument was not going your way. I will ask you here again what I asked you then. If the Trinity is true and God is not a God of confusion then at Rev 1:1 Jesus is Given a revelation by God...so 1. why did he need to have it given to him?, and 2. Was God The father or The Holy Spirit?
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife I don't remember blocking you, but if I did, it was probably because you were being rude. If you really want to talk, and really want answers to your questions, let's talk man-to-man. I just don't have any interest in having long-winded internet discussions
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront No I was never rude. You ventured into continually assaulting our beliefs much like tim Kilgore,21 crosscheck,NewageGamer,Poconoporker and too many to name have done. You found in the end that we are unaffected by it because of :Watchtower Indoctrination. You drew the wrong conclusion, all we have done is to stick close to Jehovah, its to him we render sacred service through his son (our King) Jesus Christ. We imitate Jesus and if you had peered into us THAT! is what you find
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife If I wrongly blocked you and you weren't being rude or posting off-topic comments, then I apologize.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Not a problem dude. thanks for the apology. I do appreciate something about your style of video dialogue. you are calm and non aggressive and for the most part not sarcastic. We don't debate you and others to prove ourselves correct. we do it because We are running out of time and people need to hear what we know. have you ever really looked closely at Acts 15:14 and 15:17 Please read 15:17 and really try to see that it is about us.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife Thanks for the compliments. I'll read those verses in their context to derive their meaning and not try to "squeeze" anything else into them. If you want to discuss it, i'll do so in person but not here.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront May I ask you a non related question please? It is a true or false question and after you answer it I can make my point brief and with respect. the twin towers eventually fell as a physical result of the planes that hit them. true or false?
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife probably true, unless this is a trick question ;-)
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront The vast majority (over 95%) feel that way and the "probably" portion of your answer indicates that you feel no need to find the truth. But the truth is its impossible for the answer to be true. IMPOSSIBLE!! It defies physics and science to such a degree that anyone (after reviewing the physics) that answers in the affirmative has been successfully lied to. I am using this analogy because it is fitting .
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@thejahoflife or could it just be that I haven't reviewed the facts to enough depth to make an educated decision? There are about a million other issues that i'm far more interested in than 9/11. So because I haven't taken the time to do an investigation on a governmental conspiracy, I "feel no need to find the truth" and this supposedly translates to spiritual things? Seriously? You seem like a nice guy, but i'm going to end the discussion here unless you contact me personally.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Sorry, its just taht people seem not to want the truth.
thejahoflife 1 year ago
@MCO4Help yes, because those who are so brave behind the keyboard will almost never talk to you man-to-man. Though i'm keeping Skype up and running, I think i'm going to start putting my google voice phone number out there. Because its the searchers and the doubters who I really want to reach. You can only play Bible ping-pong with DefendingYHWH so much!
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
Your videos are good I'm glad you are leaving them up. Make sure you visit us apostates from time to time.
PrintedTruth 1 year ago
It's that way sometime, someone does something for a while and then feels it is right to stop and do something else. Usually other people then carry on with fresh energy and insight, a bit like the passing on of a baton, perhaps. I'll await the developments with interest. I have just made a new commitment to bible reading, reading through in big chunks, covering lots of ground in a short time, rather than intense study of smaller chunks, (later!) and am feeling blessed already as a result.
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
Thank you so much for your videos. They were extremely helpful for letting me get out of the WT society. This is amazing work that you've done here and thank you so much for leaving your videos up for future people coming out.
AirbrushMercenary 1 year ago
All the below satanic religions have more adherents than the JW's in number, would it not be in your best interest to use the "internet" to reach this far greater audience than the "hardnosed JW?"
As you know Mike, the JW's recently did a campaign about the "destruction" of all false religions, so enjoy the little time you have left with the "Grace Fellowship" befor its & its adherents violent removal from the world scene, permanently.
Now, hows that for "hardnosed?"
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
"Stern, hardnosed JW who is set in his beliefs", lol, would you have accused Jesus of the same?
Mike erm, will you be doing videos on islam, atheism, judaism, sikhism, hinduism or hey, what about the sophistry of evolution???
For a fact you will not, particularly against islam or evolution, because to stand against these two clear doctines of satan you need courage, something NO organisation, worldwide, other than the JW's are continually is doing, as our latest releases PROVE!
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120 Actually, yes. I do plan on taking on those things you mentioned. But as to your statement about no org taking on Islam or evolution? Are you serious???? Non-JW's have done more damage to evolution in a second than JW's have done in a lifetime. Show me one JW publication that refutes evolution more powerfully than Meyer's "Signature in the cell."
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
Excuse me?
What damage have the JW's done to the fight against the satanic doctrine of evolution? This I have to see!
Here are the publications that have been published to challenge this doctrine,
LIFE, How Did It Get Here, By Evolution or Creation? (Rel 1985)
Is There A Creator Who Cares About You? (Rel 1998)
The Origin Of Life, 5 Questions Worth Asking? (Rel 2010)
Was Life Created (Rel 2010)
Regular articles to debunk evolution appear in Awake, as you already know.
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120 Of course the WT has published literature on the subject. I'm not denying that. And I don't doubt that there are compelling arguments within them. But what i'm saying is that those few books don't hold a candle to what is being published by guys like Stephen Meyer. Read "Signature in the Cell" and you'll see one of the most devastating critiques of evolution ever published.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Mike, Not one organisation other than the JW's comes even close, the rest of christendom as a collective could not accomplish this, yet JW's number only 7.5 mill, erm, go figure.
We accomplish this on voluntary donations/time worldwide, does Stephen Meyer?, erm no!
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120 wow. Ok. I'm actually trying to find some common ground here, but there you go completely bashing Meyer without even reading him. There is no reasoning with you. Why do I even bother?
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Erm, did I bash him, erm how Mike???
I merely did a fact based comparisson between S Meyer and JW's.
How many people go door to door refuting this argument during their own unpaid time Mike?
Does Mr S Meyers
How many people do you know that spend hours on end doing research in order to rebuff and couner evolution without wage/profit or individual fame Mike?
I did not bash him, I countered your unreasonableness against JW's again.
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront
Mike, please, I am not against individual efforts who fight against evolution mate.
Ed Stein did a fantastic documentary called "expelled the movie", its all about the fight between the 2 camps (evo vs creatio), I use this documentary too on my ministry!
But, Ed Stein can only reach those who know the movie exists through advertising, many dont even know the movie exists, many JW's too.
S Meyers faces the same problem, no matter how good it is.
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Too, as you already know, we are "kingdom preachers" not scientific argumentors.
As far as your slap at the WT for "not holding a candle" to guys like S Meyers, erm, this is not a competition Mike as to who can write the best anti evolution article.
Credit to S Meyers sincerity, however, will you and the Grace Fellowship give millions of free copies away, face to face, worldwide in more the 2000 languages???
For a fact, the answer is a loud, resounding, NO NO NO!!!
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120>"Regular articles to debunk evolution appear in Awake"
So what. That doesn't prove a thing. The devils also believe Creator God (Jms2:19). Thus it's possible for man to confess God by their mouth, and their idolatrous hearts be far from Him. Is29:13;Mt15:8;Rm1:16-32. And these conscience minded JWs themselves clearly lay this out at their web-site on the JWs idolatry:
The Jehovah's Witnesses Reformation Movement:
» Organizational Idolatry
jwreform (dot) org/idolatry (dot) html
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront Please bare in mind that these articles are publish "Worldwide" and in many, many languages as a collective.
They are written covering ALL angles of evolution, not just the cell, however, the cell is greatly examined in the latest brochure on this subject.
They are written with the entire audience in view, language, intellect, background, understanding.
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120
The WBTS "Worldwide" articles on evolution are worthless and laughable in comparison to the information provided by credible Christian ministries. One such Ministry comes to mind:
The Institute for Creation Research:
Indepth scientific and biblical information regarding the creation/evolution controversy:
icr (dot) org
barbsinclair 1 year ago
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@barbsinclair Laughable eh?
Give the article published by the JW's that made you chuckle then???
For a fact your just lying (John 8:44 applies to you)
Too, as below I reiterate,
How many people go door to door refuting this argument during their own unpaid time?
How many people do you know that spend hours on end doing research in order to rebuff and couner evolution without wage/profit or individual fame?
Not you, thats for sure!
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120>"How many people go door to door"
Not all JWs are idolatrous working as witnesses for their organization. Many JWs are underground in the org helping JWs out of this cult run by false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4)
Jehovah's Witnesses Reformation Movement:
» Organizational Idolatry
jwreform (dot) org/idolatry (dot) html
See Video on WBTS book:
"The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah - How?"
Video:
"Are Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets?"
watch?v=s-MVRD0V5OA
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120>"Give the article published by the JW's that made you chuckle then?"
To be honest, I weep about what JWs religious rulers say in publications. But after 10yrs of being a witness of the truth Christ Jesus, to witnesses of WT organization: all one can do is laugh on things:
Recently, their reformed position (new light) on "this generation" made me laugh. JWs call it "the overlap doctrine". This is at least the 5th -> 7th time they changed it. The god of the WT is very confused.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
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SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120
And, The Institute for Creation Research = icr (dot) org are not false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4) like JWs human religious rulers are.
See this new YouTube Video on WBTS book:
"The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah - How?"
Video:
"Are Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets?"
watch?v=s-MVRD0V5OA
Utterly all literature from WBTS printing presses is worthless. It comes from false prophets and false teachers. It cannot be used by any seeker of God's truth.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120
In this comment section, have shown you conclusive evidence that all WBTS literature cannot be trusted by any seeker of God's truth. WBTS are false prophets and false teachers (2Pe2:1-4).
Those who rely on, and publicly promote WBTS literature, are either:
a) horribly deceived
b) or diabolical deceivers
Which one are you?
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@barbsinclair Not conclusive at all, clearly you have never heard Mike say "in my opinion" have you? Its a frequent phrase, but then, you would know wouldnt you?
Either you are delluded or are delluding?
Your all bark and no bite little puppy.
If there are maggots in the congregation plying their apostate wares, then, Jesus, as the head of the congregation will clear them out in due course. Read the Bible, its happened befor.
Maggots eat is dead flesh, fitting eh?, You perhaps?
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120
After speaking with many conscience minded JWs, its quite revealing that you didn't answer my question:
Those who rely on, and publicly promote WBTS literature, are either:
a) horribly deceived
b) or diabolical deceivers
Which one are you?
You must be of the stiff-necked organizational JW the JWs themselves warn me about, namely: a diabolical deceiver.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@barbsinclair Actually Mr Obtuseinclair, I was born muslim, so, Im hardly qualify for either, fact.
This makes me informed & experienced, something you lack.
For a fact, you would NEVER say these things to a muslim or an evolutionist.
JW's stand to be counted unlike you.
You are a cowardly fraud ,an opinionated obtuse, disgruntled, propaganda promoter with a weak minded hidden agenda against JW's who attacks peaceful people with impunity, fact.
Now, are 1 of the above or ALL?
SonofThunder120 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120
Did you see the Jehovah's Witnesses web site? I support the JWs - and you come along and hatefully call JWs "maggots" (which actually describes the WT memorial)
Read my comments again, and see the web site and this video. After that, then maybe you MIGHT understand issue's at hand. We can all hope and pray:
JWs Reformation Movement:
» Organizational Idolatry
jwreform (dot) org/idolatry (dot) html
Video:
"Are Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets?"
watch?v=s-MVRD0V5OA
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120 >"I was born muslim...makes me informed & experienced, something you lack"
I witness to Muslims, met some who converted to JW. One thing JWs do well, is prove Koran is not "the word of God," and give JWs credit for that. But, ex-muslim converts to JW religion who "received the love of the truth" Christ Jesus, study the Word of God finding out JWs are a cult of Christianity and leave. I've met 3-4 ex-mulsims who became JW, then became ex-jws; now disciples of Jesus Christ. Amen.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120>"JW's stand to be counted"
Only JWs who literally "stand to be counted" is their "little flock" namely JWs self appointed "holy temple class" "the faithful and discreet slave and its governing body" who teach Jesus died and shed his blood for only that elect small class who stand to be counted at 144,000. All other sheep must "loyally submit" to this elite class considering it their "sacred duty" to obey them. WT 4/1/2007 p24
Sadly, all other JWs are counted as disposable.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@SonofThunder120>"maggots eat dead flesh, fitting eh?"
Yes, its fitting because that's exactly what occurs world-wide in JWs Kingdom Halls Annual memorial of Christ's death. Emblem partakers are as maggots who symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a forever dead man's body:
Jesus "died as a man and remains dead as a man forever" - WT 4/15/1987 p5
"the man Jesus is dead, forever dead" - Studies in the Scriptures V5/1899, p454
At it's core JWs death memorial is of the Occult.
barbsinclair 1 year ago
I can't thank you enough Mike for your love and concern for those trapped in this cult like myself. Waking up and breaking free of the WATCTOWER CORP and the 'governing body of old crones' mind control is no easy matter, but your videos sure did help my mind escape. Thanks again.
SpecialPioneerSmerf 1 year ago
Good on ya' Mike.
I think several years of witnessing to the JWs is enough. A lot of your new videos will cover topics that will apply to the JWs anyway.
Bible ping-pong is boring, especially when the opponent says the ball was in when in fact it was out :o)
floodtube1 1 year ago
I hope the best for you and that you will humble yourself and realize that there are those out there who really care about you. You have a good mind, but at the end of your road is a mist. This is a cloud mass obstructing your prayers and understanding regarding Jehovah.
Bless you and may accurate knowledge become yours.
Robin
nibornagrom 1 year ago
@nibornagrom Hey Robin, I appreciate your kind words. I really like you and have the same sentiments towards you. As to Matt. 24, I just don't have any interest in playing Bible ping-pong with you, especially on eschatology. Why? Because your ultimate authority is not the Bible, and since you can't understand the Bible without the org, what could I possibly say to show you what is correct?
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront
I think my last encounter reasoning with you was not ping-pong. You simply got it wrong. In the past I have been quick to admit when I misspoke. I was only hoping you would do the same. I never quote the Watchtower in my discussions. I only use the Bible. Since many Witnesses leave the congregation for Christendom, I would think that an ongoing discourse would be exactly what you would want.
Have I ever been nasty with you?
Hope you do well.
nibornagrom 1 year ago
@nibornagrom Robin, the fact of the matter is, I just don't have the time to engage in long-winded internet discussions anymore. And I especially don't have time to have internet discussions with JW's who are faithful to the org. As long as "to follow the org is to follow Christ," then there is absolutely nothing I could ever say to show you what Matt. 24 is really teaching. Otherwise, i've always liked you, you've always been polite to me, and I thank you for that :-)
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@theapologeticfront But even if I chose to engage you in dialogue, why would I talk about eschatology? Having a correct eschatology will not make you right with the Creator; but being born again will. I would just find it completely unprofitable to spend time engaging in non-salvation issues with a JW when there are much bigger theological issues to deal with.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@nibornagrom Quintessential Jehovah Witness VooDoo,....You have the same Insight as the Governing Body. You have demonized his character by saying that he is not worthy of communication with Jehovah. That's a pretty destructive way to use Jehovah.
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii
If I have in any way besmirched his integrity as a person, I apologize to him and you.
He admits he has a long standing relationship with Jehovah's Witnesses. I was only reminding him of what he has learned and what he is turning his back on.
nibornagrom 1 year ago
Mike I think you are failing in your effort because you can't show from Scripture what is right and wrong. Your last video concerning Matthew 24:14 was completely wrong. You never got back to me. You completely got it wrong and you won't admit it. That is not going to change.
The FDS was prophesied to appear in that same chapter so of course you want to discredit that Chapter. It's to bad you can't handle the truth. Perhaps other Evangels will see the futility of their ministry and shrink away.
nibornagrom 1 year ago
I just want to say that you've put some pretty good vids out. I've learned a lot from them. I hope to see other vids from u.
Stay cool.
8^)
supermanny73 1 year ago
I like the 1919, date myself,,,,,no biblical proof for that.
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii Looking forward to more Vids!
jaymurtii 1 year ago
Hey Mike. Praying that your new channel will be a blessing to both you and those who watch the videos that you make. I admire your discernment on knowing when something has run it's course and your willingness to make a change in direction.
God Bless
21crosscheck21 1 year ago
Hey good idea to keep your channel up, it does and will help people that come across it :)))))
I wish you all the love as you endeavor towards your purposes.
All the best to you. xxx
gothybex 1 year ago
Brother, you have shown yourself to be a good steward of the Word of faith, and as such, a fruitful ambassador for Christ with a heart to win souls to Him. I pray our Lord shall bless your steps in the way.
Proverbs 11:30 "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." [Dan 12:3]
barbsinclair 1 year ago
@barbsinclair Thanks Barb! So encouraging!!
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
Thank you for the video's that you did make, and all the best to you on your future project.
sundaymorningsleeper 1 year ago
I will never give up hope for those who are or will be coming out. Cults are the issue. Maybe you could do more about cult awareness in general.
inspirediam 1 year ago
@inspirediam Yes, Brock has a great approach. ~ agape
inspirediam 1 year ago
Some good points Mike.You can't help ANYONE who doesn't have questions about their beliefs..who thinks their traditions and systems are flawless. You helped me,but I DID have questions.So thanks for that!I always appreciate your demeanor and approach too.We could all learn from it.I too am here to help those who understand how deception doesn't discriminate and how it works and how possible it is that certain traditions are deceptions.
howdytheresir 1 year ago
@howdytheresir Thanks Kellie, that means a lot!
theapologeticfront 1 year ago