Hunter Mahan

[shivom90]

hes pretty flat but really good swing

[tigerswede3]

@shivom90 He's far from flat... what are you talking about?

[demoncleanser]

one of the top 3 swings in golf.

[Jmack632]

@demoncleanser top 3? I think Hunter has the most mechanically solid golf swing I have ever seen!

[demoncleanser]

@Jmack632 my top 3 are in no particular order, Rory Mcilroy, Hunter Mahan, Francesco Molinari.

[stevepising]

Hunter really does take it straight back and then into the ball on the same plane.

[ilovedavedunlop]

No its not really laid off, it just appears that way because its short of parallel at the top. Every degree short of parallel u are u should be a degree 'laid off'

[CallawayGolfer123]

would tht be classed as laid off at the top ?

[esaitta3]

Shanked it!

[remmy100]

@esaitta3 troll

[esaitta3]

topped it!

[gointodapunkrawkshow]

@esaitta3 He caught it clean with a long iron and drew it left in towards the hole, he definitely didn't top it

[esaitta3]

four!



[SportsBoy141417]

@esaitta3 u do realize that was drawing right towards the hole right?

[Sprinklesofjoy]

Is that swing simple or what!!

[dagongshow]

Hunter is a 2 plane.  There are literally ZERO 1 plane mechanics in his swing.

[dsizemore81]

@dagongshow Can you explain why you think this isn't a one plane swing?

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 Sure. In a one plane golf swing, the player stands farther away from the ball at address, has less knee bend and is more bent over at the waist. The first move in a 2 plane backswing is to draw the arms away from the target (one piece takeaway). First move in a 1 plane is to pull the right elbow behind the body. Compare Hunter's positions (2p) to Matt Kuchar (1p). I am having trouble getting this to post, I will send a vid. link in one second.

[dsizemore81]

@dagongshow Matt has a one-plane swing, but Hunter does as well. A one-plane swing basically comes down to moving the club on the same plane as the shoulders, i.e., left arm (for the right handed golfer) is on the same plane as the shoulders. Both Hunter and Matt's do this. A good example of a two-plane swing would be someone like Colin Montgomery.

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 I'm not trying to be a nay sayer, but that is incorrect. There is A LOT more to a one or two plane swing than the relationship of the left arm and the shoulder plane at the top of the backswing. There are flatter 2 planers, which may appear to have the same angle at the top as their shoulder plane. The difference is swing mechanics, NOT just steep or flat, or the left arm at the top. Mahan and Kuchar have completely different swing mechanics.

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 Watch Mahan and Kuchar side by side and just watch the difference in what happens with their right elbow during the backswing. First move on the backswing, 1 planers pull their right elbow inside and behind their body; 2 planers draw the club away from their body. Differences between 1 and 2 plane: Side view = 2 planers have a weight shift to their back leg on the backswing, 1 planers do not make a weight shift, their weight stays forward.

[dsizemore81]

@dagongshow We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :) When talking about one-plane vs. two-plane swings, all it has to do with is the swing plane. Swaying your weight to your back foot doesn't have anything to do with the plane of the swing. Whether we're talking about Stack and Tilt or any of the other ways to swing, there is in fact a weight shift that happens. But, that's neither here nor there. Regardless of ones weight, elbow, posture; if the plane is the same, it's a one-plane swing.

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 I totally understand what you are saying. I misspoke when I said the weight stays forward, I should have said that the weight does not shift. S&T is "start left, stay left, go left." I am just trying to explain the differences that Jim Hardy uses when teaching players to be either 1 plane or 2 plane. It sounds weird, but the "1 or 2 plane" is just a byproduct of two different types of mechanics, according to Hardy. It is not where the club ends up, it is how it gets there.

[dsizemore81]

@dagongshow S&T feels like your weight starts left, stays left and goes left, but it's not exactly true. True in that weight starts left at about a 60/40 split, but as your arms and the weight of the club go back, centrifugal force will naturally take your weight to the back foot. It's just not to the degree of the old teachers where it seemed to become a 20/80 split with all weight on the back foot. Thanks for the discussion. Limited characters here makes it difficult.

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 lol, yes, 487 characters makes it hard. Good chat, take it easy. 

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to explain my point.

[dagongshow]

@dsizemore81 Youtube won't allow me to link a video, but Lake1926 has the clip of Matt Kuchar playing from this exact same tee box and camera angle. It is a ton to explain, but there is A LOT more to a 1 or 2 plane than what people "think" they see at the top of the backswing.  A one plane downswing comes at a steeper angle than the line of the backswing. One thing to remember, not all players are either 1 or 2 plane. Greg Norman and Tiger would be considered "hybrids."

[pedro6199782]

lol straight in the crowd

[sniffy45]

pretty ugly

[klcballsback]

@sniffy45 probably better looking than your face

[sniffy45]

@klcballsback - not really, maybe your mome jew hook nose though

[ILIAD9]

Thanks Lake\ That's one of the best one-plane swings on tour

[Toplis100]

his swing looks wack

[bunkerputt]

Wow that hole looks hard.

[stevepising]

flat as a pancake going back and too shallow coming into the ball.

Oh yeah he just won at Firestone...

[paulyrulo]

@stevepising Are you serious...his plane is almost mirror image going up and down thru the swing.

[PaperStarBusiness]

He draw that one or what?

[SoccerismyDNA]

this guys a beast - do you guys see his backswing is out of wack at 50%???

[lasherza]

@SoccerismyDNA how do u mean his backswing is out of wack. His left arm is like perfect ram-rod straight. he just won on sunday .

[SoccerismyDNA]

@lasherza Can't you see he uses Hogan (god bless) at 50% for his gap plane???

[paulyrulo]

@SoccerismyDNA I think his swing going back and on downswing are almost exactly on the same plane angle...plus that straight left arm and great rigt elbow position put him in perfect hitting position throughout.

[Lake1926]

Thank-you... it was a great spot... I'm hoping boom-boom wakes up loose and drops some eagles :)

[golf4life89]

Your vids are awesome!

Must have been amazing to see all these players from there!

Who do you think will win it? Phil, Lee, Tiger...?