Archbishop Tutu on Basic Income

[suavebone]

The problem with you ppl is you don't see ppl as INDIVIDUALS. you wanna do your world without money thing...GO THE FK AHEAD, stop implying that WE should all go down into your idealistic commie pit of misery. Shove your message up your arses.

[suavebone]

Fags...lol

[daddyans]

Peter Joseph exposes fractional reserve banking system in Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum. They're on youtube.

[MegaContented]

He is an agent of UK. Remember Queen of UK is the head of the Church of England.

[dontblockmedk]

Money property system is ROOT problem.

1. people need food, water, energy, medicine, etc.

2. money systems require scarcity, so they will never create abundance of 1

3. sharing ALL resources and knowledge keeps small groups from controlling everyone

4. we have the resources and technology to provide EVERYTHING for the world now

5. automating the production distribution, frees up humanity to no longer be wage slaves to governments or corporations.

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[mikubuntu]

Mr Tutu, I wonder I wonder if you remember visiting our little town of Gamboa, in the old Panama Canal Zone... it must have been in the early/mid sixties, you visited the Catholic Church .. Mom told me about it, I don't remember it, and I think she went to the Church to see you, or maybe you also visited our little Gamboa Union Church.

[AndreaRossouw1]

Common Sense: most of the world problems are caused due to people trying to survive - if we establish and equal money - equal labour system - it will take out the point of survival and bring in equal life - equal expression

[DesteniProductions]

Equal money for all from birth to death is a compassionate way of life and must be investigated

[Naturyl]

Basic Income is the right thing to do. Oppose all greedy, indoctrinated social Darwinists who suggest that there are ANY conditions that should disqualify people from basic human rights and subsistence.

Everyone deserves food, clothing, shelter, and medicine. Period.

[wakeyskate]

@Naturyl this really isn't a religious issue, rather a social one and economic one. The more you bring your opinionated views into it, the more you become part of the problem.

[bluensunshine]

@Naturyl and peaCe aND nO More waR and self and social actualisation ! I'm with you !

[bluensunshine]

@Naturyl @Naturyl and a planet with a viable environment including peaCe aND nO More waR and self and social actualisation !

[henkeliduu]

We've got all the tools we need; the technology has been available to us for quite some time now. The worker is no longer needed when we've got more advanced robots and machines, I think it's pure lunacy to draw the conclusion that the no-longer-workers need to either starve or invent some new way to make money, resulting in things like spam mails and telemarketing companies that does no good to anyone in the long run

[wasserdrache12345678]

in german is a petition ending on the 17.2

you can reach it when you enter tis  in google:

Reformvorschläge in der Sozialversicherung - Bedingungsloses Grundeinkommen vom 10.12.2008

[catgumart]

I agree totally with Archbishop Tutu. I think there are a lot of ways we can be bring inging the bottom up. Improveing quality of life for people of lower classes.There is no need for people to live in such lows..,I think people should have comfort, options, mental and physical and spiritual development with tools available, I think there should be redistribution and we should examine every way to get it underway as soon as possible

[LetUsChangeTheWorld]

Basic income = zero hunger in the world.

________LetUsChangeTheWorld.

[bluensunshine]

Basic income deserves to be much wider known ~ the typical response when I've raised the subject is 'is this some kind of communism...?' So when I've mentioned the countries I know that have looked seriously at BI (Eire, New Zealand etc) the look is of bewilderment.

[hamechonit]

@bluensunshine The backlash I hear when speaking about basic income, equal labor, or equal money is that it is a form of communism. What I have learned about communism is that it is a system where everybody gets an equal wage and all people live in poverty. There are hundreds of people lined up at a a food pantry for a loaf of bread or a few onions while the government leaders live in fancy houses and build enormous pet projects to suit their own idealisms. That sounds more like our own system.

[bluensunshine]

@hamechonit realise when one realises that 'poverty' is a capitalist construct designed to set worker against worker (with a reserve of unemployed people to guarantee compliance by those 'fortunate' enough to be allowed to sell their labour) then it becomes easier to drop the urge to get more and more 'stuff' to perpetuate the concept of 'relative poverty.' I agree that the political class do nothing for the people but are completely in the pockets of capitalists and the military.

[bluensunshine]

@hamechonit this might help:

The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. The philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king, saw him.

Said Aristippus, If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.

Said Diogenes, Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to cultivate the king.

[Lotusmita]

The vision of Basic citizens income for all citizens is needed to address widespread poverty especially in developing countries and increasingly here, yet it does not address the issue of money as debt via fractional reserve system by centralized private commercial banks instead by people's governmnent. Federal reserve is private. Search for money masters video and 'deep conscious capitalism'

[bluensunshine]

Wasn't it Jean Luc Picard (Star Trek) who said something like, 'in the 24th Century we've done away with money.' What is this fractional_ private_ capitalism? Please can you explain.