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  • i freakin love this guy

  • So why are the poles melting, then?

  • @HiHats21 They're not retard!

  • @Vindigary Really? Really? And all those drowned polarbears where just retards. What about the glaciers? They are melting, too? And I'm from Switzerland, so I can see that live, dude!

  • @HiHats21 Wow! You really are a sucker. You've been had. How many times has the world ended now? Zombies, ghosts, santa clause, and global warming aren't real. The earth NATURALLY goes through climate cycles, of course, but meteorologists can't accurately predict next week's weather. You think they can predict the next thousand years? I don't think even Al Gore is dumb enough to believe his lie, but there is an abundance of suckers in the world if you can sell your story.

  • @Vindigary What is your freaking problem? Why do you have to insult me just because we have different opinions? That actually makes you a morron.

    But go on with your life and believe the 1% of scientist who think that all of this is a scam. I believe in the 99%. I guess you don't believe in Evolution, aswell.

  • @HiHats21 Evolution isn't a politically convenient tool to make gullible people more dependent on the government for protection from the "end of the world". There is factual evidence to support the theory of evolution. To "prove" the global warming lie they fudged the numbers. Evolution is very obviously true. Natural selection makes perfect sense. Just because I don't believe an obvious lie like global warming, doesn't mean I'm not capable of critical thought.

  • bob, love your stuff....but i think you got this one wrong. dead wrong. im in Copenhagen right now and its 40 F. Scandinavia in January....no snow, no freezing temps, and everyone outside in longsleeve t-shirts. somehing is most definitely going on.

  • @speedyelky I think he meant (man made) global warming is a scam.

  • Whatever drugs this guy does i want to try them!

  • @ozztenn angry rage drugs, no thanks :P

  • Yes I dont like puding to ;D

  • THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, AND THE PUDDING STINKS! IT FREAKING STINKS!

    made my day :)

  • ALSO LOOK UP CHEMTRAILS, WE NEED TO STOP BIOENGINEERING! THEY ARE SCREWING OUR LANDS SO WE CAN'T GROW OUR OWN FOODS AND DRINK OUR OWN WATER.

    RESEARCH GMO FOODS WITH ALUMINA RESISTANCE

    RESEARCH CHEMTRAILS WITH ALUMINA, BARIUM, AND OTHER CHEMICALS

    THEY ARE KILLING US SLOWLY GLOBALLY

  • Liberals ruin the world:(

  • Just because you are a blowhard doesnt mean you are right. Unfortunately for tea baggers like yourself, you believe the louder you scream the more correct you are. Kinda typical thought process for misinforned trailer trash if you ask me. But, The majority of scientists who are legitimate and peer reviewed. Just because a few of the scientists within the community happen to be wingnuts, does not mean it discredits the general consensus of 95% of the rest of the scientific community.

  • @crknipe 95 percent?? LOL Carbon isn't going to stop the real reason for winters which is the tilt of the Earth meaning the heat is released in to space and it doesn't matter.

  • Bob is so spot on... Even a libtard could understand.

  • chill out dude

  • @drinkingwithbob

    Actually there is something other then man-made global warming, it's called natural global warming caused by the sun. The sun actually can cause global warming, so I would change the title to "Manmade Globalwarming is a Scam......" because global warming is a natural process but manmade global doesn't exist.

  • @patsrule213 wow, you regurgitate that about as well as sean hannity does

  • Please do a rant about the legislation just passed called the NDAA ( National Defense Authorization Act ) End of Posse Commantadis....so that means the military will be on the streets. Very significant

  • Whats funny is Asshole "Gore" bought a villa in Montecito CA. last year... all 6 bedrooms and 9 baths of it.. I want to see the carbon footprint coming from that home!!!!

  • We have studied the effects of global warming not only on our planet but on other planets within our solar system. The facts are there,, its real,, its consistant evidence.

  • Global Warming is real dude. I like your videos,, but modern science prooves higher carbon levels in the air DOES cause our planet to get warmer. If you think we do not add TONS of carbon footprint that hastens the process of global warming,, your uneducated. Now research actual science on global warming done BY thousands of scientist all around the world, you will see they all agree.

  • @dkoribag1 No1. rule in science is to attempt to disprove theories. You can never ultimately prove a theory. And does that data take into account sun activity? According to records the medieval period was warmer than today?

  • For those that believe in global warming... Yeah, the world's warming... For the past 10,000 fucking years... Get use to it, educated morons...

  • 3 strikes bill. unsubscribe

  • kspkido your an idiot everything bob said is true

  • fuck you

    

  • Bob is an asshole and a moron. The Koch-paid climate denier Muller has admitted that the scientific community was right all along and that he is in full agreement about the existance and threat of global warming.

    When does Bob post his apology video?

  • Global warming has officially been proven a fact a few days ago. Over the last 40 years, the degrees of the atmosphere has gone up by 2.89 degrees C and increase by .34 every 10 years. We need new eco friendly applications to slow it down or humans won't see a future.

  • @justinC504 so in like 100 years itll be 3 degrees hotter in the atmosphere...ill keep driving my muscle cars thank you

  • @jacobstern14048 I'm talking about Globally, not local.. 3 degrees hotter could melt the entire polar caps 

  • @jacobstern14048 okay so ill be dead and my children will be old. my diesel will still be rollin coal and my mustang will still be pushin 400 ponies. im not going to drive a hybrid piece of shit so that i can change whats gonna happen by nature thank you

  • @justinC504 You're one of the moran bob is referring too

  • @kspkido Bob knows nothing of science. Bob is just a loud mouth, egotistic, idiot = typical uneducated American. The only reason people listen to him is to get a thrill off him losing his mind - which is an act - all for the sake of views and entertainment.

  • is this guy a poe?

    if he's for real, i can't help but facepalm, climategate was nothing more than media sensationalist bullshit, anybody who actually took the time to care about the truth would know this by now.

  • Whether or not global warming is a scam or not, we are still wrecking the earth we all inhabit in more ways than one.

  • i can comare this guy to hitler.

  • @XBLspartanx170 ...doesn't mean you can spell.

  • @DroppedChild  PISS OFF!

  • No it's a fact!

    Lmao. Bob is an idiot.

  • Yes!!!

  • it iss a fraud... caused by the chemicals sprayed with planes to change the climate one of the chemicals is aluminum heats and cools depending on what other chemicals are sprayed... a billion dollar business..

  • global warming is real the sience was in 20 years now after a 20 year long international research committee

  • @amk4956 Wrong!

  • global warming may be a scam, but you cant help but notice how we are polluting the planet. its the one thing im pretty liberal on i guess but i think everyone should be and i dont think "saving the planet" should be a liberal issue. its our planet man we cant screw it up or it will just kill us all, although that might just be the best thing to happen.

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  • i take that back its actually 97% of scientist, i find it hard to believe most world governments are under some mass delusion and almost all scientists are out to trick you

  • @graydog3971 That's why 30,000 scientists attempted to sue Al Gore for fraud right?

  • @polske322 what the fuck are you talking about?? there is not even a debate if there is global warming its a fact

  • @graydog3971 No there is a debate, there always has been, but the mass media didn't like to report on it. Nobody even mentions Global Warming anymore, why? Because there's a lot of evidence against it now that they don't want brought out.

  • @polske322 what are you talking about, the reason nobody talks about it anymore is everyone knows its a fact, they only people how dont think its a fact is the right wingers at fox news, there is no argument on this global warming is a fact

  • @graydog3971 No most people I know don't believe in it nearly as much as they did a year ago. This includes liberals.

  • @polske322 it really doesnt matter what opinion they have, i can give you endless amounts of evidence from people like NASA that global warming is real

  • @graydog3971 hey i got a car i want to sell you. loser.

  • @aqueenowlbee you not haveing anything to counter my argument only proves my point more

  • ask 95% of scientist and see how much of a hoax global warming really is

  • your a fucking moron dude, and you need to calm the fuck down before you die from high blood pressure

  • I just had a feeling that Al gore was a scumfuck prick scam artist shyster I guess I was right.

  • Mmmmm... pudding.

  • CO2 LAG !!!

  • bob, you need to seek help

  • Will US stop behaving like children and start cleaning up the mess?

  • @bvssvni no we'll just give it to China.

  • @SGTlonewolf629 then it's ok for you we'll give the oil to China instead?

  • @bvssvni Well I was being ironic about the outsourcing of American industry, but if you're representing all Arab nations with that comment, I suppose we'll fall back on our Alaskan Oil and the Gulf if you do.

  • @bvssvni

    What mess?

  • @introvertical71 Not "what mess", THE mess.

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  • We do need to slow down pollution, that I agree with...I do not agree with their bullshit lies to tax the fuck out of every one....If you follow the money on the cap and trade crap or agenda 21, you will find it has nothing to do with saving the planet...All of this G/W crap is just pure profit for someone, another tax....The people pushing this shit, do you think they will give up their private jets, fleets of SUV's and masive houses...Fuck no..Do as I say, not as I do...

  • I want to argue with this guy but I'm afraid he's going to kick my ass.

    (Not that he's wrong about global warming, but other stuff).

  • no global warming is a fact, the reason you dont accept that is more shocking

  • The entire video, he cites literally ZERO sources. I'm sorry, but insisting conspiracy, with no evidence other than going "IT'S A CONSPIRACY LOL", is NOT an argument.

    Cite your sources, or GTFO.

  • @bobmuffins

    What sources do you need? Are you honestly telling us you have no idea of what Climategate was with the leaked emails? It was even in the news.

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia "Among the scientists whose e-mails were disclosed, the CRU's researchers said in a statement that the e-mails had been taken out of context and merely reflected an honest exchange of ideas."

    From Climategate on Wikipedia. If this guy was talking about Climategate, he's wrong/lying.

  • @bobmuffins

    Personally I wouldn't take the "honest exchange" of words from a bunch of liars over the known fact they manipulated climate data, but perhaps I'm merely crazy. 

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia ...So, if you're going to hold to your belief they manipulated the data, wanna show some actual evidence, then?

  • @bobmuffins

    Didn't you even read the emails?

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia I've looked them up, and couldn't find it, so, no. However, unlike you seem to have, I also looked up the opposite side, evidence against Climategate- Yeah, it's pretty much undeniably a fake controversy, spurred on by a misunderstanding and asshats like you who think making changes for global warming, even if it weren't happening, is a bad thing.

  • @bobmuffins

    You haven't read the emails? Then move on, you don't have much of a valid argument to back your statements up. You simply looked up the opposite side to feel satisfied someone actually is as stubbornly delusional to support your conditioned fear mongered delusions sold to you for the fact that you don't want to think you've been easily played like so many other people. I get it, no need to get all personal. Look if you want to be a fool, be my guest, not my problem.

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia Ahahaha, no, no, no. You completely skipped over my second comment, didn't you?

  • @bobmuffins

    I didn't read it at the time.

    No one is against getting rid of pollution though. Take care of the enviroment, I'd support you, Bring the polluting corporations to the ground, but don't fool for the whole "Climate change" hype though. I don't respect people who take a natural earthly occurance and hype it up to become a cash cow. Earth's climate changes constantly, it has nothing to do with us like what is being sold, it's always been that way.

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia It's always been that way?

    Uh, no, it really hasn't. It really, really hasn't. Dunno if you know this, but we can get temperature records for over 1000 years ago, if not longer- the earth is DEFINITELY hotter than ever before.

  • @bobmuffins

    Of course it has always been that way, this is the earth, it has many variables such as the sun, volcanos, ocean etc that make the climate differ all the time.

    I definitely know that, if we can obtain information about an Ice Age I can assure you the earth's climate changes naturally. The Medieval Times went through a warming period not that warmer than now, then there was an increased cooling period which was classed as a Little Ice Age and so on and so forth. It isn't anything new.

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia So the sudden spike is completely natural?

  • @bobmuffins

    Yep, I don't see why not, the climate is going to probably cool down soon enough after. Maybe even bring about a Mini "Ice Age" again. I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @IAMLelouchVBritannia I'll pretend for a bit that you're right. Global warming is false. What happens?

    We rely on fossil fuels until it's depleted, pollute the world, and basically gain nothing.

    If it's true, and we change for it, what do we gain?

    More fuel efficient vehicles, new source of energy, less pollution, and many, MANY other positive things.

    Why is it ANYONE would be opposed to changing for global warming?

  • He forgot to list the Granddad scam of them all.... 9/11... and so what if he yells? That is how everyone that understands what the gov realy is should be acting to wake up the morons that believe the MSM propaganda. It is so disheartening to present evidence that a ten yr old can look at and understand there is something realy wrong with the official picture,You give it to brainwashed adults and all they say is i dont believe our gov would kill 3000 americans like that. HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

  • @rammer561 9/11 was real. People saw the planes, nearly all engineering experts said the building collapse resembled plane crashes, and people lost real family members. Where's the scam?

    By the way, the idea that there were "bombs" in the towers to collapse it inwardly was created by people who are in their 20's, while architectual engineers who have been working with buildings for 50 years say the tower was designed to collapse like that to prevent further disasters.

    Quit hiding behind lies.

  • @Blashyrkh22 hahaha I feel sorry for you dude, it may be a stretch for you but if you stop watching corp.owned lyars news programs.Then look at Everything about 911 using your own brain you wont get very far in your studies before it becomes obvious that everything about 911 Screams false flag op. Did they also design those buildings to explode floor by floor as they were coming down hurling huge beams 100 yards lateraly.Only the uninformed and idiots believe the official gov conspiracy.

  • @rammer561 Wow, you didn't even read what I said. You are blind.

  • @Blashyrkits You asked where is the scam? The scam is the gov with possibly the mossad staging 911 as a false flag op against its people and blaming it on muslims

  • @rammer561 Nobody blamed it on Muslims. We blamed it on terrorists who happened to be Muslim.

  • what a moron! Look up Unwinding "Hide the Decline" video. This guy is a moron ! he is a SCAM!

  • he came.

  • I hope your house floods first.

  • Finally somone who isn't a complete go-green idiot.

  • If you could stop yelling and slow down I could understand what you are trying to say.

    Y are mostly annoying.

  • I am with bob on a lot of his political opinions, but I hate how the American right feel on global warming. Go read what ACTUALLY happened on "climategate" emails, it really isn't that big a deal. But no, one or two emails outweighs all of the evidence from research done by American academic institutions and institutions across the globe.

  • @Riiye The only fact on the issue of global warming that you're referring to is that Earth's temperatures fluctuate naturally, increasing over certain periods of time, and decreasing over others. I'm still with Bob on this one. Global Warming is a scam invented by Al Gore to scare American taxpayers into paying for his meal ticket.

  • @tether37 Do you actually think Al Gore invented Global Warming or was that in jest? I dislike how governments are using GW to tax us and tell us what to do etc, but that doesn't effect whether or not it is actually happening. It doesn't matter what politicians say or use GW for, what matters is the evidence, of which there is so much that GW is irrefutable. We need to take sensible action to curb GW, this polarisation of views on GW means that only looneys get to put forth their solutions to it

  • @Riiye I would agree with you and would have no problem paying higher taxes on two conditions. A) If GW was a more immediate threat. To be honest, we have much more urgent issues to focus on. GW does exist, but global cooling exists as well. We had one of the coldest winters in history just a few months ago, so as of right now there's not enough of a constant pattern of Earth's temperatures increasing. B) If the government ACTUALLY used that money to combat it. But I'm highly suspicious of that.

  • @Riiye I feel like there would be a big GW pile of taxpayer money at capitol hill, and the corrupt politicians we currently have would pick at it whenever they want to use it for their own self-interests.

  • "They just intercepted emails..." THEY? This guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about. 

  • Why does he need to yell at us!

  • @MrSportagues BECAUSE OBAMA IS HARD OF HEARING!!! HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HIS MESSAGE GETS ACROSS!

  • There are people who say that global warming is scam and people who say that it is real. The truth is that neither side has been proven to be true. There is no proof that global warming exists. However that doesn't mean that some environmental precautions should be ignored, because whether one believes in it or not, the fact is that clean air and water are essential and these are things that are not debated by either side.

  • @lauraleesmithagain

    Yeah, nobody has been proven right or wrong. So why should we raise taxes? If i said we need to raise taxes or manbearpig will destroy us all, wouldn't you want some proof before destroying the economy in order to avert it?

  • @pleasestopblockingme Because of our ultimate ignorance of how this universe works, scientific theories, such as global warming, can never be proven; they can only be disproven. However, when insurmountable amounts of data sway 95% of the scientific community, it has to be accepted as the truth until the scientific majority can disprove it. If the entire scientific community fully believed that manbearpig was about to destroy us all, then we'd have no choice but to begin taxing.

  • @EWHRDIII

    Nonsense. Never trust a controversial issue. If climate deniers were treated fairly, given airtime and not portrayed as inhumane creatures being fed oil money than i may be more inclined to accept GW as a possibility. It has become politically incorrect to question climate change, and you should have learned by now that whatever is politically incorrect is a fact whatever is politically correct, is a lie.

  • Clearly people forget how to research, I have looked into the global warming scam and the proof is there:it is an excuse based on pseudo science so they can shove all these bullshit global taxes and policies on food, any technologies you can have and even industries and the fact that this damn hoaxes not only gonna hurt the working class but the poor around the world especially in Africa where they are not even allowed to use cheap sources of energy to lift themselves out of poverty but they ar

  • um, bob? Those are not individual studies....

  • We don't need to trust any scientists, look around you, we can all see the devastating changes taking place on our planet with our own eyes. "drinkingwithbob" apparently has ADD or something of that nature cause you are the biggest spaz I've ever seen!

  • Come on deniers! Not one of you or the provider of this vid can supply ONE respected study or scientific institution to support your case. Isn't it feel a bit odd to hold such an unsupported BELIEF. Sort of like a religious cult. Let's call it Denialism.

    So get a grip and get informed. We humans are deteriorating the only habitat that can sustain us. No loud talking head babbling away vested interest propaganda can overcome the overwhelming evidence.

    FMI try UCSUSA(dot)org

  • @ReduceGHGs You need to take a remedial science class. The burden of proof is on those advocating the AGW hypothesis. We sceptics need not prove anything. I recommend that you read about scientific method so that you will be better informed next time. But there are MANY peer reviewed studies that show the Medieval Warming Period (MWP) to be WARMER than modern temps. Ergo modern warming is well within natural temp variability...

  • What else is a scam? How about the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the War on Cancer, or the War on Poverty? The only real war taking place is the one the government is waging against the law-abiding citizen. Have a drink on me Bob.

  • WHY DO PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN GLOBAL WARMING IT IS SCIENTIFACLLY PROVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @liberal882 Global Warming Scientifically proven? Not even close. Even the IPCC doesn't say it is proven Sceptics are now the majority in the USA and UK. Based on the last der Spiegel polls, Germany will be the next stronghold to fall. You are officially in the minority and your side is getting smaller. And the Medieval Warming Period (MWP) which exceeded modern warming while having lower CO2 levels torpedos thes AGW hypothesis quite nicely...

  • Global warming is a scam. Before gore became spokesman for "global warming" his net worth was in the millions. He's now over $20 billion dollars. Yet people all over this country are starving making $7.25 an hour. America, very hypocritical.

  • even if global warming was a scam , i still think we should start trying other things ... the economy is collapsing , capitalism is not working for us (humans) , what we call education is a freakin joke ...look deep within yourselves and see the answers

  • THANK YOU!!!!! PLEASE PROMOTE THE FUCK OUTA THIS VIDEO!!!!

    GLOBAL WARMING IS A FUCKING SCAM! all the people backing "green energy" are the exact same people who will profit from it. the earth is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to go through NATURAL heating and cooling periods. FUCK YOU AL GORE YOURE A FAGGOT AND TO EVERY OTHER LIBERAL BLEEDING HEART DUMBASS ENVIRONMENTAL MOTHER NATURE DICK SUCKING DEUCHE BAG FUCK YOU TOO!

  • watch "tourettes guy-fridge". Danny is definitely talking about al gore...

  • @fartflop909 LMFAO!

    The phony "climategate" propaganda has been debunked, AGAIN! Taking out-of-context emails to promote the corporate disinformation campaign didn't work! I applaud good research! The science that tells us we are warming the planet is sound. It's time we changed the way we generate and use energy and natural resources. Here's a link to debunking the corporate climategate calamity!

    .

    Google: Climategate Scientist Cleared in Inquiry, Again: Scientific American

  • @ReduceGHGs The tree ring data after 1960 nose-dived instead of going up. Rather than plot this data they ommitted it. And fellow climate alarmists Richard Muller and Judith Curry attacked CRU for the "hide the decline" scandal. They did not "clear" the hockey team. Don't believe me, watch their youtube videos where they describe the hide-the-decline graphical. One of the committees spent 40 man-hours among 9 people. This didn't strike me as a serious investigation.

  • @nlpjohn .

    You and I are not qualified to even do an analysis of the quality of an investigation. I rely on what NAS, AAAS, AGU, and EVERY respected scientific institution is STILL telling us. We humans are warming the planet and the consequences are not good. Until some of them say other wise I'm not going to jump on the vested interests' band wagon and go for THEIR ride. There's really no credible debate. Why avoid the overwhelming evidence in favor of their fringe spokesmen?

  • @ReduceGHGs The tactic you are using is called "appealing to authority". I am qualified to read. And thru my reading I know there are 1000+ scientists which disagree with the AGW hypothesis. One of them is my father who has a PhD in a hard science. The IPCC has been rocked w/ scandals of false claims. But you would have me believe this organization? NASA has botched our surface temp stations (surfacestations/org) and yet I should trust their data? You are too lazy to read like me

  • @nlpjohn . Wrong. Re-take your logic and reasoning classes.

    The "tactic" I use is an understanding of my limitations. Perhaps you might say the same when seeking medical advice? Is asking the best medical minds in the world an appeal to their "authority"? No, of course not silly.

    AGW is well established. I notice you provide no credible support for your denials. Do you think your BELIEF is sufficient? Is that why you choose to ignore what EVERY respected scientific institution says?

  • @ReduceGHGs You just conceded you are NOT qualified to discuss AGW...yet you believe it. So I will ask you your own question, Do you think your BELIEF is sufficient? The simple truth is it is just simpler for you to believe in others rather than investigate things yourself. And if you have not read of the IPCC scandals or bothered to look at the link I gave you then I doubt you have the curiousity to make it worthwhile to engage w/ you...

  • @nlpjohn .

    I am not qualified to discuss the very complex scientific foundation behind climate change research. But I know how to do research and have done a good deal of it over the years. But don't take my word for it. Do your own research (if you know how to do honest research). Find respected, credible sources and see what they say.

    How about NAS, AGU, AAAS, SOCC, NCAR, NASA, NOAA, and many others.

    There's no credible doubt in the scientific community. You have no such support.

  • @ReduceGHGs I already have done my research so give your homework assignment to someone else.

  • @nlpjohn .

    I'm not engaging you in debate. I'm providing information you clearly lack. A big difference, right?

  • @ReduceGHGs You provided no information other than initials of organizations. I don't call that information. I call that laziness. And it is still evident you ignored the website I gave you and you ignore my points about the IPCC. If you are going to ignore what I offer then it is clearly a waste of time to talk w/ you. So until you do then I have to say goodbye and ignore further comments from you.

  • @nlpjohn .

    I didn't feel it necessary to provide you with the sites where the respected scientific institutions discuss climate change. But okay. Here's one.

    Google: NAS pdf Global Warming 2008 Edition

    NAS is very well respected. The other institutions say about the same thing but I can provide links. Here's one that has many of them. Wiki is no souce but they do have accurate position statements.

    Google: Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wikipedia

    Send IPCC critique again.

  • @ReduceGHGs You don't have any end-game in mind do you? You just spew a lot of words and initials without understanding where you are going. To defend a hypothesis, you must address the points of the people attacking the hypothesis and not ignore their points. Throwing a bunch of irrelevent information shows me you don't understand your belief too well. And I do mean BELIEF... 

  • @nlpjohn .

    Your reliance on the IPCC debunking site is telling. I recommend researching who put that site up.

    Google: Wattergate: Tamino debunks “just plain wrong” Anthony Watts

    Anthony Watts is NOT, I repeat NOT, a credible or respected source of information on this issue.

  • @ReduceGHGs I googled and I saw a lot of falsehoods about Watts. The first big falsehood claims that Watt claimed there is no 20th century warming. ***That is a 100% pure falsehood*** The fact that you found the braying on this website meaningful speaks poorly of your critical thinking skills. You clearly have no idea how to defend a hypothesis so why don't you google how to do so. Until you do so, you will just be spewing words into cyberspace without any endgame in mind.

  • @nlpjohn .

    I sent you a NOAA analysis. If you don't think they are telling the truth, please send them the facts so they can get it right.

    Watts is by no means a credible respected souces. What made you think he was?

    Defend your hypothesis that he is. You can't.

    I'm here to provide well established information about climate change that too many people lack. For some, no evidence will ever be enough. I can't help them. Hope you aren't one of "those".

    Have a good one regardless!

  • @ReduceGHGs I didn't even make my point about the data on surfacestations/org and yet you imagine you know what my point is. But that doesn't stop you from refuting a point I never made. Then you imply I said NOAA isn't telling the truth. If you could see yourelf from my point of view, you would see a person with Turrets syndrome spewing out AGW factoids whether it is relevent to the discussion or not. We communicate on different planes so lets cut our losses now...

  • @nlpjohn YOUR words... "NASA has botched our surface temp stations (surfacestations/org) and yet I should trust their data?"

    Yes, you made this point and yes I researched it and found NOAA's debunking of the propaganda.

    So come up with another, then another vested interest or some flunky site. I'll not look at all of them. Of course you won't consider NOAA, AAAS, NAS, AGU, or the other very credible sources. Why is that? Hmmmm.

  • @ReduceGHGs They did botch the data. Per NOAA/NCDC requirements, no artificial heat sources should be within 100m of the surface temp stations. The surfacestations/org has audited over 80% of their stations and only 6.7% meet this requirement. 70% of the audited stations have artificially heat sources <= 10meters. The experts couldn' even install/maintain the temp stations properly. This was in response to your claim that we should blindly trust the "experts". Scientists are people too...

  • @nlpjohn

    Try not to play scientist.

    NOAA found that the temp measurements were accurate. End of story that you WANT not to be true.

    Try expanding your research and you'll find that climate change is but one symptom (a very big one of many) of how humans are deteriorating our only habitat. Here's just one topic worth reading and understanding.

    The Anthropocene Epoch

    Why is it even being considered?

  • @ReduceGHGs Every temp station audited by surfacestations/org has picture proving the violations of NOAA requirements.  The simple facts are, the "experts" at NOAA have violated their own requirments in over 93% of their stations. And is it not a conflict of interest for a govt agency to excuse their own malfeasance? Watts has announced this week (2011/5/8) a journal has accepted his paper on the data. So do you accept my point that NOAA has screwed up the station deployments? Yes or no?

  • @nlpjohn .

    I'll let you delude yourself. You are no expert and are not qualified to critique NOAA. But like I said, send them a note and correct what they've done wrong. I would LOVE to be wrong and would LOVE for what every respected scientific institution is saying to be wrong. Then we could go on dumping carbon into the atmosphere until we run out of it. Yea, PARTY! That's dreaming. It isn't reality.

    I clearly can't help you. I try to provide info to those that lack it.

    Good luck!

  • @ReduceGHGs Your ability to evade questions is amusing. I said NOAA's own standards that no temp station should be closer to an artificial heat source by <100m. Do you accept this premise? If you do, then do you acknowledge that the "experts" at NOAA haved screwed up their own temp station deployment. Yes or no? The supporting data and pics are on surfacestations/org. Remember your original point was we should blindly trust the experts. So back up your words...or concede my point.

  • @nlpjohn .

    Still playing scientists. Your surfacestations site is a scam. Hooked you line and stinker didn't it?

    If you don't like what NASA and NOAA say then why are the other respected scientific bodies also wrong?

    Read and learn.

    "As the world's largest general scientific society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science: The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society...."

  • @nlpjohn .

    What is The Anthropocene Epoch and why is it being considered?

    Why evade the question?

  • @ReduceGHGs One point at a time. You claim we should blindly trust the experts and I showed you that the vast majority of NOAA temp stations do NOT comply with NOAA deployment requirements. How is this possible that the "experts" at NOAA screwed up their own deployment of the surface temp stations. You claim the surfacestations/org site is a scam. So are their claims about artificial heat sources wrong? It is time to back up your claims...or concede my point.

  • @nlpjohn .

    News flash... You don't make rules that I have to play by especially in a field where you lack expertise.

    NOAA's judgement on the issue is more credible than yours. Why is that?

    I'll filter out your posts from now on. They are (pun intended) pointless.

  • @ReduceGHGs I did not realize it takes expertise to use a tape measure during a surface temp site audit. And you STILL refuse to back up your claims though I keep asking you too. The simple truth is you are a drone that lacks both the curiousity and the willingness to defend your own beliefs.

  • @nlpjohn .

    I'll have to work on my filter. I'm still getting pointless, baseless posts from you.

    Maybe I didn't use my tape measure. lol!

  • @ReduceGHGs Okay, I'm a skeptic, any actual scientist is. Climate change is natural and if it were a problem CO2 emissions from humans wouldn't be the problem. It's a fucking scam for carbon tax, I'm sorry that's the truth. Type in "Lord Monkton Greenpeace" on YT and there's loads of sources there for evidence it's not happening, then go and type in "Corbett Tim Ball" for an example of how and why the data is being manipulated and just how high up these people are.

  • @FBFS072 What support do you have for your opinion? Vulgarity sure doesn't help your case.

    lord monkton and tim ball are not credible sources. Do some honest research and find this out yourself. It's easy unless you're in denial.

    That carbon tax accusation is telling. You are clueless about this aren't you?

    Try reading what the experts have been saying for years. EVERY ONE of the respected scientific institutions basically agree. Same for the studies. So where's your credible evidence?

  • @FBFS072 .. As for tim ball...

    "Ball is a Canadian climate change skeptic and was previously a "scientific advisor" to the oil industry-backed organization, Friends of Science. Ball is a member of the Board of Research Advisors of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, a Canadian free-market think tank which is predominantly funded by foundations and corporations."

    See anything wrong with using sources with fossil fuel and corporate ties? Get real.

  • @ReduceGHGs Oh and of course Al Gore and is business partners won't make any money of a carbon tax. Most actual scientists with Phds seem to believe there's no evidence, don't think you can put down my argument by ignoring half of it and ranting about one man. I said type in "Tim Ball", I was referring to an example of how apparently trusted scientists are manipulating data for personal profit and gain, I wasn't basing my entire argument of the words of Tim Ball

  • @FBFS072 .

    Gore has nothing to do with the science. Did you really think that any of this was his idea? Get real.

    And where is your evidence about "actual scientists"? You're welcome for the tim ball debunking. Among those actively work on climate change there is not credible debate. The confusion comes from vested interests using people like ball to spread disinformation. I recommend more research.

    Google: Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wikipedia

    A good starting point.

  • @ReduceGHGs Don't talk about the spread of disinformation and then give me a wikipedia link, that's ridiculous.

  • @FBFS072 .

    What's ridiculous is your dismissal of the site out-of-hand.

    I've researched the statements provided. They are accurate.

    What's even MORE ridiculous is deniers that dismiss what EVERY ONE of the respected scientific institutions have been telling us in favor of vested interest propaganda.  Can't handle the truth? What up with that?

  • @ReduceGHGs Don't patronise me, it's not only immature but it doesn't help your argument. And whilst I don't doubt those institution made those statements, I think there maybe other reasons as to why they may have done so.

  • @FBFS072 .

    Thanks for telling me how I can "help" my argument but I really don't need any help.

    So you think that the institutions falsified their research and conclusions?  ALL of them? These institutions span the globe and you think there must be some "reason" why they make statements that aren't true?

    Not surprisingly there is no evidence of any such conspiracy but there is plenty of evidence of vested interests spreading propaganda. The gullible believe them. The informed understand.

  • @ReduceGHGs Well there is evidence of a conspiracy, that's what the Tim Ball link was about. And no I dont believe they all falsified their research but it seems to me that the IPCC seems to hold all of the data and seems to make conclusive statements after evaluating the info. I also found a list of opposing scientists, some of wish I believe to be from the same institutions in the list you gave me. What if an institution wishes to have more research money but to do so must sign an agreement to

  • @FBFS072 .

    Research your sources. Tim Ball is a Canadian climate change skeptic and was previously a "scientific advisor" to the oil industry-backed organization, Friends of Science. Ball is a member of the Board of Research Advisors of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, a Canadian free-market think tank which is predominantly funded by foundations and corporations.

    Again, EVERY ONE of the respected scientific institutions says humans are warming the planet. Fact.

  • @ReduceGHGs agree. There are also institutions on your list that only show data for climate change which we all no is happening but that isn't the question.

  • dude you are the man!!

  • Lmfao