hat to burst ur bubble, but the apparent means they cant sail into the wind. They have awful pointing. Thats why they are healed to winward upwind, so the foils pull them to windward.
When you squeeze a watermelon seed between your thumb and your finger the seed moves much quicker than the tips of either your thumb or your finger. Simplistic and not very truly accurate at all, but the principle is similar.
Also consider places like Chigago where the wind enters the urban area at some velocity, then because of the height and orientation of the downtown buildings the wind can end up moving much faster down urban canyons than when it entered. So if the wind interacting with objects can accelerate the wind to faster than the average, why couldn't the wind accelerate objects harnessing the wind to speeds greater than the average wind speed?
so would the watermelon be like the water, and the thumb be like the wind, and the seed would be the boat? and it would squeeze the boat forward? Oh ok i get it, that's very cool
I was picturing the finger being the water and the seed without from the melon, but sure, that works too. The seed, or boat, is squeezed relatively between two force vectors and moved in the forward direction. The keel and rudder are just an underwater wings pointing down, while the sail is a wing pointing up. Wind and forward motion, along with gravity, create the "squeeze".
Are you ready to move on to how a the bird known as the albatross can fly upwind without flapping its wings? Ha ha.
well i was thinking that the fact that the boat does not move laterally in the water due to the keel and the rudder causes the squeeze as the wind pushes against the sail.
how can an albatross do that? hot thermal currents?
Oh yeah, an added force in the Moth case is it has horizontal wings, or foils, underwater, so the forward motion causes the hull to lift out of the water in the same way an airplane lifts higher. So the "squeeze" energy isn't just enough to go faster than the wind, but also to lift up the weight of the boat and crew. Check out the Hydroptere vids on youtube for more hydrofoil action.
6: The angle changes the RELATIVE movement of one to the other. He/She is what they call "reaching" or traveling with the wind sideways(perpendicular). This is why they lean over on the upwind side so they do not flip over. This will get the most speed for the wind speed available. ALL DUE TO THE ANGLE!
I just talked to a guy and he says that they are very responsive at 10kmh the come out of the water. At that moment they double in speed. Freakin amazing.
Boats like the foiling moth move faster than the wind because they 'create their own' apparent wind as they move forwards, effectively granting them 'extra' wind, which they use to travel faster than the true wind speed. They are not limited by their water line length because, unlike your keelboat, they do not displace the water, but rather plane (or foil) over it.
As a liveaboard on a full-keel displacement sailboat (38' Hans Christian), I've never understood how a multihull (or, in this case, a Bladerider) can move FASTER than the wind. My boat sure as heck won't! Can anybody explain the concept behind this? Thanks!
well dotyrs im not sure if im right but it has some thing to do with not having so much resistance on the hull while us monohauls have the whole boat to cary in the water : for examole put your hand out side your car and see wat has more resistance :putting your hand vertical or horizontal.
Hi Guys another note. It all has to do with true wind and apparent wind. Then after that its the resistance of the hull and spars. So thats where the blade runner wins. I am also living on a monohull and love it
This is so awesome it's off the scale of extraordinarity! I don't even wonder what it feels like to be flying this contraption doing like 45 kmh. But i've got to say You must have been clinically insane to come up with the idea.
im betting that was a lake test? no way you could get that flat calm at sea. it does look quite steady but im guessing it has a lot o weather helm? and how is the rigging set up?
pra quem não tem noção da diferença de desempenho desse barco em relação a outros ,preste atenção aos ultimos segundos do video onde o Moth se aproxima de um veleiro de desenho tradicional com muito mais area velica que ele e mesmo assim parece estar em camera lenta...
i want one
warlockplaya 1 year ago
that's f=cking insane man
1994Guus 1 year ago
Does anybody know what is the sail area to leingt ratio?
MIC960 1 year ago
double the wind speed or greater, nice efficiency.
wildblue2 2 years ago
I want to see how you tack, and how well it points to the wind.
Jackle61 2 years ago
they can sail closer to the wind than a normal dinghy as the apparent wind allows them to!!
they can also stay foiling through-out the tack!!
SkipperCharles 2 years ago
SkipperCharles; Cool, good to know, thanks.
Jackle61 2 years ago
hat to burst ur bubble, but the apparent means they cant sail into the wind. They have awful pointing. Thats why they are healed to winward upwind, so the foils pull them to windward.
AdamK153 1 year ago
Ok, now THAT is small boat sailing! NICE! What was top speed that day? 20?
dcalimited 2 years ago
TOOL>all
checkstay 2 years ago
are they harder than hobies to sail
aj3071 3 years ago
They shure are! Oo
Nice boat
Nice wind
Nice vid!!
5/5
iniciation 3 years ago
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder. they cant balance without speed.
jhultquist000 2 years ago
hehe that's great! I want one ;)
BradG902 3 years ago
how fast was the wind
Adrenaline552 3 years ago
6-12 knts
BradG902 3 years ago
HAHAHA OMG THIS IS EDGARTOWN! MArthas Vineyard! I sailed here this summer at the edgartown junior regatta HA!
yotusi8aol 3 years ago
che figata!!!!!!
riccardomascaretti 3 years ago
This is need for speed!!!!
mouskitto 3 years ago
I love TRIMARANS and Wakeboarding, This is great.
You schould see:
WindSwept extreme wakeboard a no mercy media production
on youtube, The greatest Trimaran video in HIGH QUALITY!
nomercymedia 3 years ago
that thing is awsome
welderman27 3 years ago
any one here know how much a moth like that would
raww302 3 years ago
a competitive moth thesedays costs upwards of 30g aus
Putonyourfknshoes 3 years ago
do kasail make sails for mid range yachts
bouncingyellowskull 3 years ago
VERY FASTER & FUN....WWOOAUUU
pablixto26 3 years ago
is not very faster is very fastest
kondziabc 3 years ago
what are the physics behind a boat sailing faster than the wind?
gurubomb 3 years ago
When you squeeze a watermelon seed between your thumb and your finger the seed moves much quicker than the tips of either your thumb or your finger. Simplistic and not very truly accurate at all, but the principle is similar.
mgalyean 3 years ago
Also consider places like Chigago where the wind enters the urban area at some velocity, then because of the height and orientation of the downtown buildings the wind can end up moving much faster down urban canyons than when it entered. So if the wind interacting with objects can accelerate the wind to faster than the average, why couldn't the wind accelerate objects harnessing the wind to speeds greater than the average wind speed?
mgalyean 3 years ago
so would the watermelon be like the water, and the thumb be like the wind, and the seed would be the boat? and it would squeeze the boat forward? Oh ok i get it, that's very cool
lotsoffun 3 years ago
I was picturing the finger being the water and the seed without from the melon, but sure, that works too. The seed, or boat, is squeezed relatively between two force vectors and moved in the forward direction. The keel and rudder are just an underwater wings pointing down, while the sail is a wing pointing up. Wind and forward motion, along with gravity, create the "squeeze".
Are you ready to move on to how a the bird known as the albatross can fly upwind without flapping its wings? Ha ha.
mgalyean 3 years ago
well i was thinking that the fact that the boat does not move laterally in the water due to the keel and the rudder causes the squeeze as the wind pushes against the sail.
how can an albatross do that? hot thermal currents?
lotsoffun 3 years ago
Oh yeah, an added force in the Moth case is it has horizontal wings, or foils, underwater, so the forward motion causes the hull to lift out of the water in the same way an airplane lifts higher. So the "squeeze" energy isn't just enough to go faster than the wind, but also to lift up the weight of the boat and crew. Check out the Hydroptere vids on youtube for more hydrofoil action.
mgalyean 3 years ago
i understand the hydrofoil thing, i just didn't get how you can sail faster than the wind, but now i do
lotsoffun 3 years ago
1.Put your right arm at a 45 deg. towards the monitor's left side.
2. with the arm straight but elbow bent slide the left fist from the inside of the elbow towards the desk and see the *angular*
movement of your right arm.
3. Now change the angle (flatter) towards yourself. 4. Now you see that you right arm went farther than your left fist.
5. The angle "makes" this happen, as they are relative to each others movement.
yewwtooob 3 years ago
6: The angle changes the RELATIVE movement of one to the other. He/She is what they call "reaching" or traveling with the wind sideways(perpendicular). This is why they lean over on the upwind side so they do not flip over. This will get the most speed for the wind speed available. ALL DUE TO THE ANGLE!
7: Salt water burns eyes!! Have fun!!!
yewwtooob 3 years ago
though interesting and i understand what you are saying. This doesn't quite answer my question, but I think i figured it out. Thanks.
lotsoffun 3 years ago
Moth.
Great vid, five up!
Ogsonofgroo 3 years ago
That looks amazingly fun, but I'll bet it's a bitch to tack (seems like there's very little space between the sail and that platform)...
harrangatang 3 years ago
yeah, i don't get how any of that would work
lotsoffun 3 years ago
Tool & sailing. the 2 best things in life :)
splinadero 3 years ago
I just talked to a guy and he says that they are very responsive at 10kmh the come out of the water. At that moment they double in speed. Freakin amazing.
jridesnow 3 years ago
Nice rig! Wanna race my Rave? See my foiler video.. if you're ever on the east coast - would love to trade boats sometime.
Huckaby 3 years ago
i love these boats its so cool when ur in 1 and ur flyin past a tour boat awesome
gbrsailmartin 3 years ago
Boats like the foiling moth move faster than the wind because they 'create their own' apparent wind as they move forwards, effectively granting them 'extra' wind, which they use to travel faster than the true wind speed. They are not limited by their water line length because, unlike your keelboat, they do not displace the water, but rather plane (or foil) over it.
Hope this helps!
heatseeker8434 3 years ago
As a liveaboard on a full-keel displacement sailboat (38' Hans Christian), I've never understood how a multihull (or, in this case, a Bladerider) can move FASTER than the wind. My boat sure as heck won't! Can anybody explain the concept behind this? Thanks!
dotyrs 3 years ago
well dotyrs im not sure if im right but it has some thing to do with not having so much resistance on the hull while us monohauls have the whole boat to cary in the water : for examole put your hand out side your car and see wat has more resistance :putting your hand vertical or horizontal.
elliottmolnar 3 years ago
Hi Guys another note. It all has to do with true wind and apparent wind. Then after that its the resistance of the hull and spars. So thats where the blade runner wins. I am also living on a monohull and love it
svcelticdancer 3 years ago
I wonder if its faster than 49er?
asyyfjd 3 years ago
This is so awesome it's off the scale of extraordinarity! I don't even wonder what it feels like to be flying this contraption doing like 45 kmh. But i've got to say You must have been clinically insane to come up with the idea.
josepanterra 4 years ago
it must be hard to control it? or not... but very cool anyway
DobbyM 4 years ago
fuel? you see that thing attached to the mast? its called a sail! is it harder to control seeing the hull is out of the water?
highol29 4 years ago
this is awesome i feel tempted to get me one of this. good choice of song to go along with this video
cruisernet 4 years ago
what you on about fuel?
this doesnt use any fuel its just hydrofoil technology idiots!
philtrotman 4 years ago
Unless it's electric of course. does anyone know?
Kaptainrdean 4 years ago
wow. I bet eats loads of fuel though
Kaptainrdean 4 years ago
poor Finn....
poypoy2001 4 years ago
How much does this boat cost? I want one!!!!
jcsrealty 4 years ago
about £10k
gbr672 4 years ago
This was probs shot at sea in 10kt wind. Remember that these boats only need 5kts to fly
henrycourse 4 years ago
wow! I like too :)
Bessypas 4 years ago
lotsa windward heel. looks weird ;)
olegmills 4 years ago
im betting that was a lake test? no way you could get that flat calm at sea. it does look quite steady but im guessing it has a lot o weather helm? and how is the rigging set up?
aido179 4 years ago
Of course you can have those condition at sea. Like in a protected bay or a fjord.
Heimdall01 4 years ago
Video was shot in Australia, Port Phillips Bay. Not many lakes down-under...
andylamy 4 years ago
my point exactly
aido179 4 years ago
Really great. I have thought about building a hydrofoil catamaran OD 30-40 feet, but am not sure how they would do in a seaway.
slrman 4 years ago
moth :1.................dinghy :0
sagnefusciule 4 years ago
no chance this was taken in 10 knots of wind... this coat is so cool
123gvina123 4 years ago
great toon, TOOL rock
xckelly 4 years ago
rohan rulez
yachtie2k4 5 years ago
pra quem não tem noção da diferença de desempenho desse barco em relação a outros ,preste atenção aos ultimos segundos do video onde o Moth se aproxima de um veleiro de desenho tradicional com muito mais area velica que ele e mesmo assim parece estar em camera lenta...
cesarpeixinho 5 years ago