I am not going to argue but I and many more have an opinion that differes from yours. If Ceasar Milan is not professional, so be it, but, he does the job quick and professional:-) Futhermore, he is known allover the Globe thanks to some powerful TV networks and that alone says enough... Respect..:-)
Nice video , i am sure it may help some people understand dog behavior a bit better and for the close minded asses someone to try and pick on which is the only way they know how to feel bigger (sad bastards ;) example ( heartsongofdog)
I am fostering and rehabilitating an severely fear aggressive 18 month old Weimaraner at the moment.
The only thing I would change in your video is the name . this dog needs Rehabilitation - then further training which I would say your have displayed nicely!
let me just say, as the trainer & maker of this video, i understand that this did not "fix" the dog then & there & am not claiming it did. my goal was to show the owners how to keep their dog calm in the presence of company. the more the dog does this, the calmer he will get.
I wish you would have shown some of his aggression prior to you working with the dog. Although there was some barking There really wasnt much of any aggression displayed in his behavior. Just a dog that was more or less used to doing what he wanted and taking charge of everyone in the household...I will have a new video dealing with a death row pitt that i worked with very soon...2 weeks tops..in editing phase..i will send a vid attachment of my latest aggression case video in the meantime.
I'm not sure how you can look at that and call it "relaxed." Frequent head turning, dropping of the head, furrowed brow are all signs of nervousness and avoidance. What I see when you grab the leash is the dog go from being actively interested in his environment to going passive and nervous. An active dog going to a reactive dog. There are better ways of being a leader than just making him afraid of getting a jerk!
What's up with the Millan-style jolting on the collar?! Why not introduce a 'watch' command, so that you get the dog to give you attention. I appreciate in situations where the dog can be in a high state of stress/fearfulness, using a vocal command does not always work, but for when the dog is lying down in the living room, jolting his collar like that is unnecessary to me.
my second oldest brother don't know shit about dogs. he doesn't want our german shepherd and pitbull to sniff visitors or lick them. he doesn't know that that's how dogs greet. what a fuckin dumb ass.
If the dog is a habitatiual digger the quick easy solution would be to amputate both or one front leg/s.
WTF!!! What planet are you living on you moron? You go on about these methods being harmful, yet you are willing to cut of a dogs front leg to stop a behaviour!!!
Most of what is said here flies in the face of behavioral science. Lip licking, ears down, yawning are all stress signs and although the aggression is suppressed, he is not in a good or safe state. If you keep saying that treating him is rewarding him, then why not use them to reward him when he is correct. This dog is working simply to avoid negative consequences. What a high stress way to live. Oh and do not think he is working for praise, praise simply represents the absence of a correction.
I have put a prong collar around my neck and had it popped on and me and I WAS SHOCKED!!! IT DIDN'T EVEN HURT!!!! It was more of just pressure than anything. It's not like the prongs are pointed and sharp, they are rounded and dull. STOP OVER REACTING!!
Heartsongforgod, you're ignorant. Some dogs require different training methods than others. Get over yourself. If you're that dead set on accusing ppl of being abusive, maybe you should go to a local slaughter house, fur farm, or puppy mill to get your kicks. Check out those places before you start pointing fingers at harmless methods of training. Real abuse exists but apparently you havn't visited/witnessed any because you sure as hell can't tell the difference.
HeartsongforGod.....go take your meds then come back and tell me what the heck is "amutate" ? Concerning choke chains...dogs necks are a lot tougher then humans...in fact comparing a dog to a human is just plain silly...you see people walking their dog with the leash clipped to the collar(and that ring was desinged to attach the dog tags to) and the dog is lurching ahead out of control...with a choke chain they learn real fast to back off...just like you should do !!
I really do hope this dog gets rewarded for good behavior rather than just punishment for bad behavior. Why does it always have to be one or the other?
when the dog is in the right state of mind, he gets some quiet praise. if she gave the dog any food or praise until then, it would negate all the work we did. this dog was going to be put down & is still with his family 8 months later, so I would call this a success. staying alive with the family that loves him is the best reward of all, don't you think?
If a dog is a habitual digger, a quick, easy solution is to amutate one or both front legs. Immediately the technique to stop digging is 100% successful ... the dog doesn't have to be euthanized and gets to stay with its family. So if "success" is all you care about then congratulations or whatever.
If I popped a collar around a child's neck whenever it was misbehaving I would so quickly get charged with child abuse. Yet, we go around doing it to animals all the time and call it training!? Yeah right, it is just as much abuse as if you were doing it with a child.
I would not use treats, you obviously have a very narrowed and black/white view of training. I would use scientific methods as described in learning theory. I would keep the dog under threshold, desensitize, counter condition, and
actually teach the dog what it should be doing rather than confusing it by punishing it when it doesn't know any better. If its ears went back, I would know that I was pushing beyond his ability to take in information and I would back up until the dog was in a better mental state for learning. Success would be when the dog has a life that is improved from how it was before because training would be designed for the dog not for the people.
I have put a prong collar around my neck and had it popped on and me and I WAS SHOCKED!!! IT DIDN'T EVEN HURT!!!! It was more of just pressure than anything. It's not like the prongs are pointed and sharp, they are rounded and dull. STOP OVER REACTING!!
my dog has the exact same issues! he was a rescue... i call him my little rehab case... i use the same techniques basically and correct him before he becomes aggressive because i know the warning signs. he is pretty good! i must be vigilant and always keep working with him as it is still a work in progress. how is your doggie doing? good luck!! they are worth it :)
@banjorine Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I have note been reading
the comments.
Koa is more the same. I just make sure he does not get close to people, I am sure that makes it worse, but it's stressfull. He goes to daycare 3 days a week, where he loves it. They have never seen this behavior there. I board him when I am having people over at night. Kind of a pain, but he is great with us. He is also on Prozac twice a day, which does seem to help alot.
I am the lucky owner of this handsome GSD. I was considering re-homing him because of his fear aggression issue. Laurie and her staff were my last hope.
I can't say enough. This video is part of a two hour visit and I have seen great improvement in just the last two days.
I will say I had my doubts, but Laurie asked me to be open minded and the results have been wonderful.
With consistant practice, I have no doubt Koa will have a long happy life with us.
I am not going to argue but I and many more have an opinion that differes from yours. If Ceasar Milan is not professional, so be it, but, he does the job quick and professional:-) Futhermore, he is known allover the Globe thanks to some powerful TV networks and that alone says enough... Respect..:-)
47wma 1 year ago
I prefer the professional actions by Ceasar Milan.
47wma 1 year ago
@47wma professional and Ceasar Milan in the same sentence make no sense
mer1nga 1 year ago
Nice video , i am sure it may help some people understand dog behavior a bit better and for the close minded asses someone to try and pick on which is the only way they know how to feel bigger (sad bastards ;) example ( heartsongofdog)
I am fostering and rehabilitating an severely fear aggressive 18 month old Weimaraner at the moment.
The only thing I would change in your video is the name . this dog needs Rehabilitation - then further training which I would say your have displayed nicely!
TheStinkyda 1 year ago
let me just say, as the trainer & maker of this video, i understand that this did not "fix" the dog then & there & am not claiming it did. my goal was to show the owners how to keep their dog calm in the presence of company. the more the dog does this, the calmer he will get.
laurieandcleo 1 year ago
I wish you would have shown some of his aggression prior to you working with the dog. Although there was some barking There really wasnt much of any aggression displayed in his behavior. Just a dog that was more or less used to doing what he wanted and taking charge of everyone in the household...I will have a new video dealing with a death row pitt that i worked with very soon...2 weeks tops..in editing phase..i will send a vid attachment of my latest aggression case video in the meantime.
DreamComeTrueK9 1 year ago
I'm not sure how you can look at that and call it "relaxed." Frequent head turning, dropping of the head, furrowed brow are all signs of nervousness and avoidance. What I see when you grab the leash is the dog go from being actively interested in his environment to going passive and nervous. An active dog going to a reactive dog. There are better ways of being a leader than just making him afraid of getting a jerk!
fijimermaid9 1 year ago 2
What's up with the Millan-style jolting on the collar?! Why not introduce a 'watch' command, so that you get the dog to give you attention. I appreciate in situations where the dog can be in a high state of stress/fearfulness, using a vocal command does not always work, but for when the dog is lying down in the living room, jolting his collar like that is unnecessary to me.
mydogkanskidrums 1 year ago 3
my second oldest brother don't know shit about dogs. he doesn't want our german shepherd and pitbull to sniff visitors or lick them. he doesn't know that that's how dogs greet. what a fuckin dumb ass.
j0hnxjxrambo 1 year ago
WTF @heartsongforgold!!!!
If the dog is a habitatiual digger the quick easy solution would be to amputate both or one front leg/s.
WTF!!! What planet are you living on you moron? You go on about these methods being harmful, yet you are willing to cut of a dogs front leg to stop a behaviour!!!
RuffRehabillitation 1 year ago
pets now will be allowed to live out their lives. legal term `grandfather clause``
alphafirstoneyou 1 year ago
pets ownership should be illegal. we dont need pets and so many pets have sad lives.
alphafirstoneyou 1 year ago
@alphafirstoneyou Dumb ass then where will the dogs go.
MrCoolpwnedU 1 year ago
Most of what is said here flies in the face of behavioral science. Lip licking, ears down, yawning are all stress signs and although the aggression is suppressed, he is not in a good or safe state. If you keep saying that treating him is rewarding him, then why not use them to reward him when he is correct. This dog is working simply to avoid negative consequences. What a high stress way to live. Oh and do not think he is working for praise, praise simply represents the absence of a correction.
dkmcwhinnie 1 year ago
I have put a prong collar around my neck and had it popped on and me and I WAS SHOCKED!!! IT DIDN'T EVEN HURT!!!! It was more of just pressure than anything. It's not like the prongs are pointed and sharp, they are rounded and dull. STOP OVER REACTING!!
JohnnyRu131 1 year ago
Heartsongforgod, you're ignorant. Some dogs require different training methods than others. Get over yourself. If you're that dead set on accusing ppl of being abusive, maybe you should go to a local slaughter house, fur farm, or puppy mill to get your kicks. Check out those places before you start pointing fingers at harmless methods of training. Real abuse exists but apparently you havn't visited/witnessed any because you sure as hell can't tell the difference.
candipoox 1 year ago
HeartsongforGod.....go take your meds then come back and tell me what the heck is "amutate" ? Concerning choke chains...dogs necks are a lot tougher then humans...in fact comparing a dog to a human is just plain silly...you see people walking their dog with the leash clipped to the collar(and that ring was desinged to attach the dog tags to) and the dog is lurching ahead out of control...with a choke chain they learn real fast to back off...just like you should do !!
shackashackado 2 years ago 4
I really do hope this dog gets rewarded for good behavior rather than just punishment for bad behavior. Why does it always have to be one or the other?
HeartsongforGod 2 years ago 8
when the dog is in the right state of mind, he gets some quiet praise. if she gave the dog any food or praise until then, it would negate all the work we did. this dog was going to be put down & is still with his family 8 months later, so I would call this a success. staying alive with the family that loves him is the best reward of all, don't you think?
laurieandcleo 2 years ago
If a dog is a habitual digger, a quick, easy solution is to amutate one or both front legs. Immediately the technique to stop digging is 100% successful ... the dog doesn't have to be euthanized and gets to stay with its family. So if "success" is all you care about then congratulations or whatever.
HeartsongforGod 2 years ago
no, the dog was lunging & biting neighbors. i suppose you recommend giving him a treat every time he doesn't bite someone?
again, the dog is HAPPY, ALIVE & WITH HIS FAMILY THAT LOVES HIM. what more do you want to define success?
laurieandcleo 2 years ago
If I popped a collar around a child's neck whenever it was misbehaving I would so quickly get charged with child abuse. Yet, we go around doing it to animals all the time and call it training!? Yeah right, it is just as much abuse as if you were doing it with a child.
I would not use treats, you obviously have a very narrowed and black/white view of training. I would use scientific methods as described in learning theory. I would keep the dog under threshold, desensitize, counter condition, and
HeartsongforGod 2 years ago
actually teach the dog what it should be doing rather than confusing it by punishing it when it doesn't know any better. If its ears went back, I would know that I was pushing beyond his ability to take in information and I would back up until the dog was in a better mental state for learning. Success would be when the dog has a life that is improved from how it was before because training would be designed for the dog not for the people.
HeartsongforGod 2 years ago
@HeartsongforGod
I have put a prong collar around my neck and had it popped on and me and I WAS SHOCKED!!! IT DIDN'T EVEN HURT!!!! It was more of just pressure than anything. It's not like the prongs are pointed and sharp, they are rounded and dull. STOP OVER REACTING!!
JohnnyRu131 1 year ago
@laurieandcleo that dog happy?? non ci credo nemmeno se lo vedo
mer1nga 1 year ago
@HeartsongforGod lmfao, thats so fucked up but funny
cookiemonster187 1 year ago
I always assumed that a dog walks on one side and to me it shows he is more relaxed on the lead on the right than the left hand side.
I have an english bullie and he'll drag like hell when he's on my left but put him on the right hand side I end up knocking him with my knee.
stefarnez 2 years ago
my dog has the exact same issues! he was a rescue... i call him my little rehab case... i use the same techniques basically and correct him before he becomes aggressive because i know the warning signs. he is pretty good! i must be vigilant and always keep working with him as it is still a work in progress. how is your doggie doing? good luck!! they are worth it :)
banjorine 2 years ago
@banjorine Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I have note been reading
the comments.
Koa is more the same. I just make sure he does not get close to people, I am sure that makes it worse, but it's stressfull. He goes to daycare 3 days a week, where he loves it. They have never seen this behavior there. I board him when I am having people over at night. Kind of a pain, but he is great with us. He is also on Prozac twice a day, which does seem to help alot.
koamenear 1 year ago
Very Funny comment about going home with 10 fingers! I think I've probably said that once or twice.
darrelhager 2 years ago
P.S. FYI.
On this day, Koa had been to doggie daycare. He is usually much worse when someone tries to enter the house.
Liz M.
koamenear 2 years ago
Hello all,
I am the lucky owner of this handsome GSD. I was considering re-homing him because of his fear aggression issue. Laurie and her staff were my last hope.
I can't say enough. This video is part of a two hour visit and I have seen great improvement in just the last two days.
I will say I had my doubts, but Laurie asked me to be open minded and the results have been wonderful.
With consistant practice, I have no doubt Koa will have a long happy life with us.
Liz M.
koamenear 2 years ago