I would LOVE to have one of these. We need velomobiles to be mass produced so they are readily available (I can't buy one locally where I live) and so the price comes down.
Yes, Busettii Bikes have the good pedaling system so you can use it as a bike or pedal with the motor. I have one and it runs about 75--85 miles per charge but you can also pedal like a regular bike. Also, it really goes fast even in throttle mode. Check out busettii dot com if you need more info. ciao
What does one of these cost, and where can a person buy one? I've kinda looked into it, and it seems that ordering one with an electric motor isn't as simple or straightforward as one would hope.
@SUZUKIMX4LIFE I kind of disagree a little with your last commit on C. and below, the only way to make these safe is to get rid of cars and force people to change to these and other methods of transportation to get around, I think that gas cars are in its hey-day stage right now, they only make us lazy, fat, and tired, more often than even working at a job.
@Blackwater200 cars dont make us lazy, people choose to be lazy. and the idea of forcing people to drive shitty things like this is out rageous. they wouldn't be able too because too many people would fight it. cars are part of our history, and if we had to put just these on the road, then that means all of our classic cars including things such as the model t would have to go. Whats the point in doing that?
@SUZUKIMX4LIFE Don’t get me wrong I love cars too, but let’s be for real about this. Cars cause deaths, road rage, smog, hit and runs, traffic, frustrations, poor health, etc. I have seen on many occasions where people drive a block away to pick up cigarettes, or booze instead of just walking to the damn store. Despite the good points cars provide us we are a nation that are car hogs and thing change in time NO matter how great they may seem in history or culture.
That's really cool ... i wish i had one ! ... i like the shape and color ... and i especially like the canopy, and the way it opens ... reminds of a JEDI stepping out of his one-man fighter. =D
Er, uh, are these designed and manufactured by Government Motors? Do they meet Federal safety standards? DOT approval? Underwriters Labs? Are they ISO 9000 compliant and is the manufacturer SOX qualified? Get my drift? Green theater...
How water tight is it? It looks pretty impermeable, but it still has obvious gaps. Still, it is one of the coolest things I've seen this year. If I could afford it, I would buy it in a flash.
velomobiles for the win :) these go-one versions are awesome, it's just a shame that they're so expensive by compare to a standard recumbent trike tadpole. though I don't see a way to justify the $3k price for a normal bent but as a velo it's just a body being added to one yet it raises the cost from $3,000 to anywhere in the $10K-$20K area and that's ridiculous.
if you have to wear the suit to own one the humiliation wouldn't be worth it and why would they put the battery's so high looked like it was going to tip over on the speed bump there the heaviest thing besides the man in the funny suit on the ride they should be @ the lowest point possible it has to be under 20MPH and under hundred pounds and if gas powered under 45cc to not have to be registered and insured for 50 states
Are you still riding this to work? Its been three years. How has the experience been? I would love to ride a velomobile to work! It would be perfect for rain/snow.
On accidents - if you can pick a good route with bike paths or side rodes, electric assist bicycle can be safer than a car, most of time you are away from traffic. Top speed of the electric assist is limited to 32 km/h or 20 miles/h in most areas. Some areas also have a weight restriction to qualify as bicycle.
For myself, can go from edge of Edmonton, Canada to downtown and back on 1 charge with electric assist bicycle at 32 km/h, half through parkland, rush hour no slowdown.
you could draw more attention to your vehicle if only you had used leapordskin tights when you crawled out. Listen man, boxers and a t shirt are the way to go.
It is electric -- if you get auto-assist. -- then the bike stores energy and feeds it to a motor when you get tired -- store runs out you have to recharge it (not sure if you can plug it in, don't have 7-14k to blow ATM.
How about having legislation that car drivers should keep a good look out and drive with due care and attention? Maybe there could be penalties such as fines, loss of vehicles / licenses or liberty for drivers that break said rules? Oh, and maybe they could actually be enforced too? (This latter point being where reality differs sadly.)
Yea, Human error can be deadly. Me and my bike are no match for a ton of moving steel & glass . I'm sure even the best car driver can injure or take kill a rider while following all the rules. I do my best to Be seen and ride defensively . We bikers shouldn't rely on rules and regs to save us. I'm not 'sue happy' at all. I'd much rather look out for myself.
You and I probably have the same attitude toward the Prius. I call them 'smugmobiles'. Reminds me of a good bumper sticker - "any green slogan on a car is an oxymoron!". Enjoy your Hummer.
@mshults99 prius's are for people with too much money. a prius can NEVER save the average person a dime. I did the math. to save you one penny compared to say a elantra at 42mpg would take JUST OVER 100 years assuming it needed no repairs. Ouch. would take me almost 40 years at my 40,000 miles a year. Geo metro all the way $600 54mpg :-) at least till I can build an EV :-)
I've looked into the possibility of gasoline assist. It's an option. It'd be instead of electric, not in addition to, however, for weight reasons. In terms of speed and range, however, you can't beat gas engines. I figure I'd get about 400 miles per gallon!
400 miles per gallon on that go one? I sincerely doubt that's even possible. I have a 80cc motor on my mountain bike. A 5 horsepower motor, and I get 80 - 100 mpg (I tested). My bike weight is under 80 pounds, and im about 180 right now. But if you really can get 400 miles per gallon, I would be shocked.
A person on a bicycle is not aerodynamic at all. Most the energy used up on a bike is wind drag. The wheels have minimal contact with the ground. Most of the energy expended while on a bike is used to stir up air.
The reason the back tire of a bike wears out more quickly is because it is used for the acceleration. The front wheel simply rolls, and there is not sheer stress between it and the ground.
I brake only with my front wheel, unless I have to stop in a hurry. That evens out wear. Of course, you can just rotate the tires too.
You got that right. That's why I want a recumbent with an Aerodynamic shell. I cannot handle pedaling into a 15 mph headwind at more than 18 mph for more than a mile on an upright. The fact that this bike is a hybrid electric/human power is fantastic. I want one, but don't wanna pay the high price.
The 80cc mid-frame motors get 120 mpg, but the motors that sit over the back wheel and use a little wheel to rub the bike tire (friction-drive) DO get 300-400 mpg! It sounds crazy, but I've looked up company mileage charts, and they do get that kind of mileage. Of course, it's a pint at a time with their tiny fuel tanks.
The go-one comes from Germany, and we now pay 1,50 Euro for 1 Liter of Gasoline (August 08).Wait for 3,00 Euro/1L and the streets are full of Velomobiles. Because it is good for your health AND for nature.
I was skeptical at first as well. Portland has some monumentally crappy roads, full of potholes and bumps. I've hit some rather nasty obstacles. And while the ride hasn't been smooth, the Go-One has held up nicely. The suspension system is more robust than it looks. So far, nothing has been bent or otherwise damaged. I don't recommend it for truly off-road environments, but it doesn't require smooth asphalt.
Yes, the BionX has a regenerative braking feature. However, it's less than 30% efficient (vs. more than 70% efficient when charging from the wall socket). You get something back, but not a lot. The main thing about it is the BRAKING part - with the motor turned on, this thing stops on a dime. With just the drum brakes, it takes much longer. If I'm out for a workout, I'll usually leave the motor in neutral, so that it only engages when braking. Then I have infinite range, and braking assist
Mshutts99 You are my hero. I will shine your shoes, and clean your windows, and Im a doc!
Seriously, this is what America should be going after. Imagine if Detroit started doing something like this? Well, I can dream can't I? I think the price tag is kinda high. I just got myself a midracer from ActionBent and really like its feel and speed. The first day of riding was really hairy. I must have fallen 20 times, but finally at 1 am: success! Thing is, Im still scared to go work with it
Actually, I'm wearing running tights and a cycling jersey. On this particular day, ambient was about 35 degreesF. I was actually pretty warm when I arrived. These days, I'm usually in shorts unless it's below 25.
Correct. Also for airflow. And to ensure that your heels don't hit the shell when pedaling.
I'm often asked if there's any splashing through the openings. The answer is no, unless you're riding through a very deep puddle, which I don't advise. The front wheels are behind the openings, so there's no splashing from them.
The Go-One weighs 30 kg (66 lbs), and the Bionix electric assist weighs 7,8 kg (17 lbs). This offsets the weight providing from 25% up to 200% of the force exerted by the rider, so you can cover between 28 to 80 km (17 to 50 miles) before recharging the battery. And no, I'm not a seller, but an avid fanatic!
Actually, I'm using the PL-350 motor/battery combination, which is spec'd at 8.1kg's. Otherwise, exactly correct. I get about 40 miles to a 4-hour charge, on a route that includes 3+ miles of 7% plus grade, where I use the 200% assist extensively.
In the last six months here in Portland, three riders have been killed by, respectively, a cement truck, a garbage truck, and a bus. One of the riders was an experienced cyclo-cross racer. There are no guarantees, I'm afraid.
Even a Go-One wouldn't protect me from a crazed cement-truck driver bent on destruction. But being low to the ground and surrounded by Kevlar gives me a somewhat greater degree of comfort than on an upright.
Cars have been useful. Certainly more environmentally friendly than horses, which require 40 acres each to feed and generate more greenhouse gas annually than a car (methane is much worse than CO2).
Cars are just overkill when it comes to transporting one person a few miles back and forth to work.
But most people aren't willing to subject themselves to the discomfort of a bicycle when the weather's crap.
So, put an electric motor on a velomobile, and...problem solved!
Just keep driving a Hummer then later we will trade in this planet for a new one? You don't get it. Sustainable transportation keeps the human race safe.
You just argue between two extremes, either a bycicle or a Hummer, nothing inbetween; not very differentiated. You'll be trading your life for safety sooner than the planet.
Compared to an upright bike, the comfort level is unbelievable. Equipped with waterproof luggage, I've got over 10cubic feet of luggage space. The Kevlar in the casing deflects bullets and keeps the thing intact in a rollover. Sure, I'd lose to a Humvee in a crash, but I probably wouldn't activate an IED if I was patrolling in Baghdad, either!
I've actually had far fewer issues with road-d**k's in the Go-One than on my regular bike. They seem to see me more consistently on the Go-One than on my road-bike.
Perhaps its because of my resemblance to a Martian landing vehicle. Perhaps it's because of my 'This bike insured by Smith and Wesson' sticker. One never knows. :)
Here in Perth I see quite a few recumbents but never a velomobile. Although it's nice and flat here, it really does get hot over summer. I've been out on the road bike in 40 degree (C) heat and it felt like I was in a furnace :)
How does it work in winds - not so much tail or head, but cross winds? We get very strong winds with big gusts here too...
Very stable in cross-winds. I barely feel them. I've been in 40 degrees C, and it's VERY hot. A Go-One would be a blast furnace in that heat. Not recommended. Staying indoors is recommended!
hmm. though i just noticed that it had been raining lol, well do you have to take cautious turns and whatnot cause of the small wheels? just curious :)
Well, I did manage to put it on 2 wheels when making a 90-degree turn at 25mph+ (not advisable). I was able to correct without flipping it. Stability in slick conditions is a strong point for this vehicle - under no circumstances will the wheels just go out from under you. I've ridden on ice without studs, and it's quite stable.
Calibration's the issue, as well as the control system. Could be done in theory, but the challenges outweigh the potential benefits. A single rear hub motor, even with only 350 watts, gets me over 3.5 miles of 7% grade at ~12mph - sufficient to keep the trip time under control. On level ground, I don't need or use the assist - the thing is so aero that I can maintain 20mph+ entirely on my own, and I'm no Lance Armstrong!
Thank you. Answer is 'sometimes'. The distance isn't the issue - the 3.5 mile, 7.5-percent hill is the issue. I usually take the train and commute on my conventional bike to/from the station. But sometimes I take the Go-One!
I love it, i gave up owning a car about 7 years ago, if i need one i borrow from my gf. I have been a lyrca since then, about 3 month ago i stumbled across ebikes, and got the 406. It is very quiet, and stealthy. I have a child trailer, so can haul around stuff in that if need be.
wow, seems like a lot of cash, good for you. How do you find other vehicles treat you? I have an electric bike, I think my set up on your aero dynamic set up would get a lot further range and speed. What is the speed you get upto that you find wind resistance is really hard to overcome?
I view it as cheaper than a Prius! :) Other vehicles give me plenty of room. Perhaps they think I'm a space alien. My setup is 80lbs without a motor, so your range is doubtless greater. Speed is limited by the governor @ 20mph. Wind resistance is a non-issue. I'm more aero than a Prius by FAR!
Sorry I wasn't a little clearer, I have a 406 crystalite motor, with a 46 volt nicad hooked up to a mountain bike, i can cruise around at 45 km/hr, now my motor free spins, (just lift the tire off the ground and open up the throttle ) at about 63km/hr. I was just looking at these and thinking how much more effecient they would be, using less energy in almost any circumstance. I really hope that is the future for personal human transport, my hat is off to you.
How is it going?I love the crystallite, so far no problems. The only problem is I rely too much on the motor and not getting sufficient workout. I am looking to upgrade my batteries when the nicads give out. I think with Lipos and a non governed motor see some scary speeds on your spaceship.
Looking into that. I'm actually contemplating a small gasoline engine, just to help with range. Something that gets a few hundred miles to the gallon, especially with a human assist. Recharge times on batteries make it non-viable for really long distances.
I'll check out the Crystallite. I'd like to see just what kind of speed I could get out of a truly powerful assist motor!
I can see your point on gas motors, technology, infrastructure is already there. There is a great site (endless sphere ) they're doing lots of good stuff with electrics. They are pretty knowledgeable friendly group.
With the dollar going in the tank against the euro, what you see here is about $11K, without the electric-assist (but with the canopy and the lighting system).
It appears that the go-one is a great way to commute or for recreational joy, but I'm just concerned about the weight. Doesn't the new go-one weigh 60 pounds without motor? That would be practical, but 100lbs sounds a little too heavy.
I haven't put mine on a scale, but the company says that it weighs 31kg. Presumably that's with the canopy. My conversion table says that 31kg = 68lbs. So I guess my estimates are a bit off. With the motor and battery, it's 88lbs. Less than 100, but more than my road bike!
The bottom line is that velomobiles without some kind of power assist are really only viable in areas that are mostly flat (and not too hot). With a power assist option, however, they become viable pretty much anywhere, even for riders who aren't super-strong.
touche'! :) nice transportation right there. i'd love that for popping down the store to get a pack of smokes ya know, instead of using gas.
how much does the battery weigh anyways? you could rig it with some kindof tube for ventilation on your face for really hot days :D funny vid, neat machine and good responses to questions. 5star
Thanks! Battery and motor together weigh about 8kg's (~20lbs). So the unit is 100lbs with the motor, 80lbs without. I like that, since it means that I can still get home, over any hill in Portland, even if the battery dies. I'll be slow, but I'll get there. I don't recommend smoking with the canopy on, but it would work fine with the canopy off! :)
Yep, I was going slow. Started from a full stop, and this thing doesn't accelerate very fast. Parking lot speed limit is only 10mph, though, so no one goes very fast there! I average a significantly higher speed in the Go-One than I do on my racing bike. Above 20mph typically.
Care to race sometime, big talker? Come out to PIR on the 26th and I'll show you how slow I am - without a hub motor! :)
Seriously, I'm only 'slow' going up hills, where I can only manage 13mph or so up the Sylvan Hills with the assist. The rest of the way, I average over 20mph, which means that I'm not being assisted at all. My best door-to-door time from SE PDX to Hillsboro is 1:05. If you can do that route faster, then you're a stronger rider than me, sir.
I managed to drag my 45-year-old body 19.3 miles around the race track in 1 hour in the Go-One, with no power assist (and no drafting). I could have done better, if I was in better shape, but that's still pretty respectable for an old guy!
I'm afraid not. It's made in Germany by the Beyss corporation. They're a bunch of former aircraft assemblers who are experts at assembling composite materials. If I tried to do this myself, it wouldn't look nearly as nice!
The other thing is they never allow much room for what I do which is to bring a heavy pile of books back from the library and also pick up a hundred pounds of groceries.
Other than that, a company called Altair is coming out with a new lithium nanosafe battery that charges in ten minutes at most any temperature and last 25 years. Huge improvements coming in the near future!
I regularly carry 100lbs+ of groceries in a trailer behind the Go-One. Along with my 1-year-old. Fortunately, the hills aren't very big between my home and the grocery store! Charge time isn't the big issue for me with batteries - it's the duration of the charge that counts. With the BionX' Li-Ion battery, I'm only able to get about 40 miles of range in hilly terrain. It's enough, but it's a bit short of what I'd like to have. Re-charge time from a full discharge is about 4 hours.
Braking is great when I'm using the regenerative braking on the rear wheel; a bit sluggish with just the drum brakes operating. I haven't had a reason for two batteries yet, but that's definitely a possibility. It's all just a weight vs. power calculation. You wouldn't want to use a Burley trailer for books - you need a hard-sided trailer for that.
@mshults99 suggest get more batteries, I got mine on ebay from china - lifepo4 for cheap, compared to cost of go-one or even bionx not very much to double or triple range, guessing at most $400 to double.
I like the look of this bike and the fact that it offers protection from the weather, but wouldn't it be hotter on a warm day in the sun? Wouldn't you get a baking effect? Also, it's likely to attract thieves. I want to use my bike for practical purposes. I don't worry about someone throwing my car into the bed of their pickup while I'm in Walmart. Can't say the same of a bike like this.
The canopy is removable. On a hot day, that's what I do. It's still warmer than an upright bike, of course, simply because the aerodynamics are so good. Can't have good aero and good cooling wind at the same time, I'm afraid! If it's really hot, I typically ride my upright.
As to theft - #1, it can be locked very securely through the rear fork. #2, it's quite bulky - one person can't casually lift it into a pickup. #3, it's quite identifiable - I don't think the cops would have trouble finding the 'yellow submarine trike', were it to get stolen, and #4 - I regularly ride it to the airport, where I leave it parked and locked for days at a time. No issues so far!
I would LOVE to have one of these. We need velomobiles to be mass produced so they are readily available (I can't buy one locally where I live) and so the price comes down.
74orangebeetle 2 months ago
HAha awesome design, shame price. Id make something a little different myself for free
1991araaron 3 months ago
Does it get hot in that frickin thing or what!?!?!!?!?
kombatjesus 7 months ago
Cool that you can park it like a bicycle/motorcycle.
studleylee 8 months ago
So sad: this video is 4 years old. Still, there exist NO
1) trikes
2) human-electric hybrids
3) totally enclosed
available for sale in the USA under $5000. Without a single exception, you have to give up at least 1 of these 3.
mphello 10 months ago
@mphello
Under $5000 makes four. So you mean you have to give up one of those four qualities. Or make it yourself.
chumpychumpychump 9 months ago
@chumpychumpychump I stand corrected. So true. Yet so sad.
mphello 9 months ago
haha i love the aerodynamic biking clothes when you are completely encased in a fairing lol hardcore biker :)
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Yes, Busettii Bikes have the good pedaling system so you can use it as a bike or pedal with the motor. I have one and it runs about 75--85 miles per charge but you can also pedal like a regular bike. Also, it really goes fast even in throttle mode. Check out busettii dot com if you need more info. ciao
angel64879 1 year ago
What does one of these cost, and where can a person buy one? I've kinda looked into it, and it seems that ordering one with an electric motor isn't as simple or straightforward as one would hope.
FormerlyFlightsuit 1 year ago
a. this thing wouldnt withstand even a small "fender bender"
b. doesnt matter cause you'd be dead if you got hit.
c. i'd rather spend the money on a real vehicle that is actually going to keep me safe and allow me to do things.
in other words this is the dumbest and unsafe things i have ever seen.
SUZUKIMX4LIFE 1 year ago
@SUZUKIMX4LIFE I kind of disagree a little with your last commit on C. and below, the only way to make these safe is to get rid of cars and force people to change to these and other methods of transportation to get around, I think that gas cars are in its hey-day stage right now, they only make us lazy, fat, and tired, more often than even working at a job.
Blackwater200 11 months ago
@Blackwater200 cars dont make us lazy, people choose to be lazy. and the idea of forcing people to drive shitty things like this is out rageous. they wouldn't be able too because too many people would fight it. cars are part of our history, and if we had to put just these on the road, then that means all of our classic cars including things such as the model t would have to go. Whats the point in doing that?
SUZUKIMX4LIFE 11 months ago
@SUZUKIMX4LIFE Don’t get me wrong I love cars too, but let’s be for real about this. Cars cause deaths, road rage, smog, hit and runs, traffic, frustrations, poor health, etc. I have seen on many occasions where people drive a block away to pick up cigarettes, or booze instead of just walking to the damn store. Despite the good points cars provide us we are a nation that are car hogs and thing change in time NO matter how great they may seem in history or culture.
Blackwater200 11 months ago
@Blackwater200 u just proved my point. japan 4
SUZUKIMX4LIFE 11 months ago
how much?
diddymuck 1 year ago
That's really cool ... i wish i had one ! ... i like the shape and color ... and i especially like the canopy, and the way it opens ... reminds of a JEDI stepping out of his one-man fighter. =D
Thedarkone11111 1 year ago
Er, uh, are these designed and manufactured by Government Motors? Do they meet Federal safety standards? DOT approval? Underwriters Labs? Are they ISO 9000 compliant and is the manufacturer SOX qualified? Get my drift? Green theater...
alankwells 1 year ago
How water tight is it? It looks pretty impermeable, but it still has obvious gaps. Still, it is one of the coolest things I've seen this year. If I could afford it, I would buy it in a flash.
KingCorvette 1 year ago
velomobiles for the win :) these go-one versions are awesome, it's just a shame that they're so expensive by compare to a standard recumbent trike tadpole. though I don't see a way to justify the $3k price for a normal bent but as a velo it's just a body being added to one yet it raises the cost from $3,000 to anywhere in the $10K-$20K area and that's ridiculous.
experimental0000 1 year ago
a streetcar would be better
KentAllard 1 year ago
u tree huggin old hippies make me sick lol!
wierdbill 1 year ago
Well, if you blow a stop-light and get hit, you're done for..
evilmidget95 1 year ago
if you have to wear the suit to own one the humiliation wouldn't be worth it and why would they put the battery's so high looked like it was going to tip over on the speed bump there the heaviest thing besides the man in the funny suit on the ride they should be @ the lowest point possible it has to be under 20MPH and under hundred pounds and if gas powered under 45cc to not have to be registered and insured for 50 states
sirlonghair 1 year ago
Are you still riding this to work? Its been three years. How has the experience been? I would love to ride a velomobile to work! It would be perfect for rain/snow.
totoroben 1 year ago
On accidents - if you can pick a good route with bike paths or side rodes, electric assist bicycle can be safer than a car, most of time you are away from traffic. Top speed of the electric assist is limited to 32 km/h or 20 miles/h in most areas. Some areas also have a weight restriction to qualify as bicycle.
For myself, can go from edge of Edmonton, Canada to downtown and back on 1 charge with electric assist bicycle at 32 km/h, half through parkland, rush hour no slowdown.
multilis2 1 year ago
From a guy who was hit by a car riding my bike, I can tell everyone it really sucks.
parasitewasp 2 years ago
you could draw more attention to your vehicle if only you had used leapordskin tights when you crawled out. Listen man, boxers and a t shirt are the way to go.
dmgcat 2 years ago
@dmgcat
can't help but lol.
idbftw 2 years ago
his butt is sweaty
sbeer6er 2 years ago
Great ride. If the guy did not get out looking like a lycra hot dog, it would have been 200% better as a transportation alternative video.
REXMARX003 2 years ago
cool...It's a true green ride!
Neonspinnazz30 2 years ago
Great vehicle. I saw my first one in DC last week. What a beautful design.
aerocar 2 years ago
looks very dangerous to me. An SUV would flaten this
Anglichanen 2 years ago
I see you got several thumbs down for your comment but actually you are right. Giving you a thumbs up to help even it out.
MagentasTurn 2 years ago
Wow I hit a fly, oh wait it was a go-one. Same splat though.
XCritonX 2 years ago
Damn, I want one of those :)
miksuh 2 years ago
Get in line.
contributor34 2 years ago
Odd looking vehicle.
Charles2337 2 years ago
To the maker of the video:
You drive/ride this to work right?
Is there much more resistance pedaling this than riding a mountain bike?
It seems like a nice mode of transportation when you don't need to go far.
Neonspinnazz30 2 years ago
look it is one of them blue dudes...LOL
mrexon 2 years ago
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This is the epitome of homo.
onebrandofdemocracy 2 years ago
It is electric -- if you get auto-assist. -- then the bike stores energy and feeds it to a motor when you get tired -- store runs out you have to recharge it (not sure if you can plug it in, don't have 7-14k to blow ATM.
ZdenekProductions 2 years ago
sowas setzt mqn doch nicht rein
Mandy2852 2 years ago
no comment
resinator1 2 years ago
I like the Electric assist idea, and of course the Go-one is very cool as well. Nicely done!
Tony
Utuber33 2 years ago
Two Things; what the hell is he wearing!!! And won't you get v.v.hot with the lack of wind chill cooling you down?
heatleynoble 2 years ago
TOTALLY WICKED AWESOME DUDE!!!!
mandaminatina 3 years ago
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mandaminatina 3 years ago
does the outfit make you more areodynamic,faster?
twowheels25 3 years ago
driving with the cool bike in germany?NO WAY!we just have to many regulations about everything!
Nudelsalatbomber 3 years ago
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This is a speed bump for my Hummer!
homertalk 3 years ago
I hope you die in your hummer. LOL
JaleelJohanson62 3 years ago 13
homertalk's comment is leaning on the idiotic side, but there's no need to wish death on him.
jmercado85 3 years ago
I agree, death is inappropriate. $10 gasoline, however...
calvinstrikesagain 3 years ago 2
his comment hold some truth . Many recumbent bike like this need at Least a flag to be visible to even low cars.
NWforager 2 years ago 2
Should we install flags on the kerbs at the side of the road then? After all, they're even lower than either the lowest recumbents!
palmersperry 2 years ago
hah =D . curb do indeed get hit all the time . I've hit them myself a few times,, no harm done though .
If curbs were made of living Flesh then yes , install flags . What would you say ?
NWforager 2 years ago
How about having legislation that car drivers should keep a good look out and drive with due care and attention? Maybe there could be penalties such as fines, loss of vehicles / licenses or liberty for drivers that break said rules? Oh, and maybe they could actually be enforced too? (This latter point being where reality differs sadly.)
palmersperry 2 years ago
Yea, Human error can be deadly. Me and my bike are no match for a ton of moving steel & glass . I'm sure even the best car driver can injure or take kill a rider while following all the rules. I do my best to Be seen and ride defensively . We bikers shouldn't rely on rules and regs to save us. I'm not 'sue happy' at all. I'd much rather look out for myself.
NWforager 2 years ago 2
@JaleelJohanson62 there is a good chance of that considering how weak in the body they are.
fj9fl 1 year ago
You and I probably have the same attitude toward the Prius. I call them 'smugmobiles'. Reminds me of a good bumper sticker - "any green slogan on a car is an oxymoron!". Enjoy your Hummer.
mshults99 2 years ago
@mshults99 prius's are for people with too much money. a prius can NEVER save the average person a dime. I did the math. to save you one penny compared to say a elantra at 42mpg would take JUST OVER 100 years assuming it needed no repairs. Ouch. would take me almost 40 years at my 40,000 miles a year. Geo metro all the way $600 54mpg :-) at least till I can build an EV :-)
nerys71 9 months ago
California has some very prohibitive laws about making anything this cool.
auto9898 3 years ago
Good video . . . . . until HE popped out of it with his tight pants! D-:} MY EYES!!
Orion8472 3 years ago
i love the futuristic design, has a nice sci-fi feel to it!
kiravintio 3 years ago 6
loll i just thought of that thing getting owned on that first turn in by a hummer... ouch
i think we should use electric vehicles assisted by 100cc engines to recharge teh teh teh powaz! lol
EMG4Life 3 years ago
I've looked into the possibility of gasoline assist. It's an option. It'd be instead of electric, not in addition to, however, for weight reasons. In terms of speed and range, however, you can't beat gas engines. I figure I'd get about 400 miles per gallon!
mshults99 3 years ago
yeah they have little cars now a days approaching 1000mpg....
but the gov wont allow those things, not very safe due to such low wheight(and they wont get rich off all the oil!!!!lol jk)
EMG4Life 3 years ago
400 miles per gallon on that go one? I sincerely doubt that's even possible. I have a 80cc motor on my mountain bike. A 5 horsepower motor, and I get 80 - 100 mpg (I tested). My bike weight is under 80 pounds, and im about 180 right now. But if you really can get 400 miles per gallon, I would be shocked.
ThaHeartOfLife2 3 years ago
> I have a 80cc motor on my mountain bike. A
> 5 horsepower motor, and I get 80 - 100 mpg
> (I tested).
Look in the mirror. You see it? All over the place?
That's drag.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
what? its all true, check out my video on it...
ThaHeartOfLife2 3 years ago
> what? its all true, check out my video on
> it...
No. You don't understand.
A person on a bicycle is not aerodynamic at all. Most the energy used up on a bike is wind drag. The wheels have minimal contact with the ground. Most of the energy expended while on a bike is used to stir up air.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
thats why my back tire is so worn out right?
Aerodynamics is a huge factor in determining speed.
ThaHeartOfLife2 3 years ago
> thats why my back tire is so worn out right?
The reason the back tire of a bike wears out more quickly is because it is used for the acceleration. The front wheel simply rolls, and there is not sheer stress between it and the ground.
I brake only with my front wheel, unless I have to stop in a hurry. That evens out wear. Of course, you can just rotate the tires too.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
>A person on a bicycle is not aerodynamic at all. Depends on the model of bike; a fairing provides excellent aerodynamics.
tomcatfranks 3 years ago
You got that right. That's why I want a recumbent with an Aerodynamic shell. I cannot handle pedaling into a 15 mph headwind at more than 18 mph for more than a mile on an upright. The fact that this bike is a hybrid electric/human power is fantastic. I want one, but don't wanna pay the high price.
torofighter 3 years ago
The 80cc mid-frame motors get 120 mpg, but the motors that sit over the back wheel and use a little wheel to rub the bike tire (friction-drive) DO get 300-400 mpg! It sounds crazy, but I've looked up company mileage charts, and they do get that kind of mileage. Of course, it's a pint at a time with their tiny fuel tanks.
tomcatfranks 3 years ago
The go-one comes from Germany, and we now pay 1,50 Euro for 1 Liter of Gasoline (August 08).Wait for 3,00 Euro/1L and the streets are full of Velomobiles. Because it is good for your health AND for nature.
Docendo1 3 years ago
Too expensive and only a 1 seater.
klegster 3 years ago
Also do these require registration?
dual85 3 years ago
No - it's a bicycle. Legal anywhere a bicycle is legal, no license or registration required.
mshults99 3 years ago
Thats really kool. How much would something of this sort go for?
dual85 3 years ago
In kit form, about $8K. Fully assembled, with necessary options, about $12K. The dollar/euro exchange rate really hurts.
mshults99 3 years ago
That thing is awesome. I think Im too tall though, otherwise I would have one!
totoroben 3 years ago
The drive train can be shortened or lengthened somewhat. I'm 6' even. Above 6' 2" probably won't work, nor will below 5' 8" or so.
mshults99 3 years ago
Commute 20 miles each day. Is that round trip 20 miles?
merakhagen 3 years ago
Disregard. I found the answer in the other posts.
merakhagen 3 years ago
i would love to commute in one of those..but im from maine and my road would tear that thing to pieces!
NuG919 3 years ago
I was skeptical at first as well. Portland has some monumentally crappy roads, full of potholes and bumps. I've hit some rather nasty obstacles. And while the ride hasn't been smooth, the Go-One has held up nicely. The suspension system is more robust than it looks. So far, nothing has been bent or otherwise damaged. I don't recommend it for truly off-road environments, but it doesn't require smooth asphalt.
mshults99 3 years ago
Do these have any regenerative breaking system that charges battery when stopping? Seems like an easy way to squeeze a few more miles?
gr8skyr 4 years ago
Yes, the BionX has a regenerative braking feature. However, it's less than 30% efficient (vs. more than 70% efficient when charging from the wall socket). You get something back, but not a lot. The main thing about it is the BRAKING part - with the motor turned on, this thing stops on a dime. With just the drum brakes, it takes much longer. If I'm out for a workout, I'll usually leave the motor in neutral, so that it only engages when braking. Then I have infinite range, and braking assist
mshults99 4 years ago
Ah you finally got a electric motor for your velo, how are you liking it? Those hills must be a joy to tackle now eh.
moviedude111 4 years ago
Mshutts99 You are my hero. I will shine your shoes, and clean your windows, and Im a doc!
Seriously, this is what America should be going after. Imagine if Detroit started doing something like this? Well, I can dream can't I? I think the price tag is kinda high. I just got myself a midracer from ActionBent and really like its feel and speed. The first day of riding was really hairy. I must have fallen 20 times, but finally at 1 am: success! Thing is, Im still scared to go work with it
mutantstrain 4 years ago
why the hell is he wearing wind breaker clothes inside a full fairing. dude is serious. i bet he wears windbreaker underwear and socks.
djraven00 4 years ago
Actually, I'm wearing running tights and a cycling jersey. On this particular day, ambient was about 35 degreesF. I was actually pretty warm when I arrived. These days, I'm usually in shorts unless it's below 25.
mshults99 4 years ago
This is really new to me, but I love it! One thing I dont understand, what are the foot holes in the botom for?
ronpix 4 years ago
I believe they are for backing up. Flintstones style!
peestandingup 4 years ago
Thank you.
ronpix 4 years ago
Correct. Also for airflow. And to ensure that your heels don't hit the shell when pedaling.
I'm often asked if there's any splashing through the openings. The answer is no, unless you're riding through a very deep puddle, which I don't advise. The front wheels are behind the openings, so there's no splashing from them.
mshults99 4 years ago
What is the Kg of this thing and what size battery pack to cover the 20 miles?
tsport100 4 years ago
The Go-One weighs 30 kg (66 lbs), and the Bionix electric assist weighs 7,8 kg (17 lbs). This offsets the weight providing from 25% up to 200% of the force exerted by the rider, so you can cover between 28 to 80 km (17 to 50 miles) before recharging the battery. And no, I'm not a seller, but an avid fanatic!
curbowman 4 years ago
Actually, I'm using the PL-350 motor/battery combination, which is spec'd at 8.1kg's. Otherwise, exactly correct. I get about 40 miles to a 4-hour charge, on a route that includes 3+ miles of 7% plus grade, where I use the 200% assist extensively.
mshults99 4 years ago
If your a skilled rider, you would avoid accidents in the first place.
Charles2337 4 years ago
In the last six months here in Portland, three riders have been killed by, respectively, a cement truck, a garbage truck, and a bus. One of the riders was an experienced cyclo-cross racer. There are no guarantees, I'm afraid.
Even a Go-One wouldn't protect me from a crazed cement-truck driver bent on destruction. But being low to the ground and surrounded by Kevlar gives me a somewhat greater degree of comfort than on an upright.
mshults99 4 years ago
Needs rear view mirrors and side mirrors to make it safer!
bteeuwen 4 years ago
no it needs seatbelts, airbags, and steel to make it safer
jbitar07 4 years ago
Safer? ? ?
Pussies
Hangdog98 4 years ago
Pretty much.
Its not a car, people. Think bicycle with a roof to keep out the weather.
Thats the trouble with the American mindset when it comes to transportation. They got cars on the fucking brain.
peestandingup 4 years ago
Cars have been useful. Certainly more environmentally friendly than horses, which require 40 acres each to feed and generate more greenhouse gas annually than a car (methane is much worse than CO2).
Cars are just overkill when it comes to transporting one person a few miles back and forth to work.
But most people aren't willing to subject themselves to the discomfort of a bicycle when the weather's crap.
So, put an electric motor on a velomobile, and...problem solved!
mshults99 4 years ago
Has two side mirrors. Rear view would be nice. I'm thinking about a heads-up display from a small rear-mounted camera for that one.
mshults99 4 years ago
Nice ride. Keep it up.
kipswitch 4 years ago
shriek!no comfort, no luggage space, no luxury, no safety...as ralph nader would put it: "unsafe at any speed"
manoman0 4 years ago
Just keep driving a Hummer then later we will trade in this planet for a new one? You don't get it. Sustainable transportation keeps the human race safe.
ninobur 4 years ago
You just argue between two extremes, either a bycicle or a Hummer, nothing inbetween; not very differentiated. You'll be trading your life for safety sooner than the planet.
manoman0 4 years ago
Compared to an upright bike, the comfort level is unbelievable. Equipped with waterproof luggage, I've got over 10cubic feet of luggage space. The Kevlar in the casing deflects bullets and keeps the thing intact in a rollover. Sure, I'd lose to a Humvee in a crash, but I probably wouldn't activate an IED if I was patrolling in Baghdad, either!
mshults99 4 years ago
are they available to buy anyplace ? It's similar to the Twike but that cost 26K. I'd go 7-10K for one. Maybe I'll have to make one.
jstack6 4 years ago
id like to see the after math of that thing getting smoked of by a big 379 peterbuilt lol
1845c 4 years ago
Well, there'd probably be more of me left in the aftermath than if the same happened while I was on my road bike!
Seriously, the blast from a passing semi that always knocks me sideways on a regular bike doesn't affect the Go-One.
And if I'm going downhill, I'm often passing the semis!
mshults99 4 years ago
as nice as it would be it takes just one d**k on the road,i would not like to be in an accident in one lol scotty:0)
scottytoohottie123 4 years ago
I've actually had far fewer issues with road-d**k's in the Go-One than on my regular bike. They seem to see me more consistently on the Go-One than on my road-bike.
Perhaps its because of my resemblance to a Martian landing vehicle. Perhaps it's because of my 'This bike insured by Smith and Wesson' sticker. One never knows. :)
mshults99 4 years ago
NICE. I love my mtn bike, but the rain is a real pisser. That thing is sweet.
dnHooligan 4 years ago
I want one! :o)
minstral2 4 years ago
Awesome =)
Here in Perth I see quite a few recumbents but never a velomobile. Although it's nice and flat here, it really does get hot over summer. I've been out on the road bike in 40 degree (C) heat and it felt like I was in a furnace :)
How does it work in winds - not so much tail or head, but cross winds? We get very strong winds with big gusts here too...
oznimm 4 years ago
Very stable in cross-winds. I barely feel them. I've been in 40 degrees C, and it's VERY hot. A Go-One would be a blast furnace in that heat. Not recommended. Staying indoors is recommended!
mshults99 4 years ago
loved the clip of your go one I am wanting one got any advice thankyou robert
recumbent2000 4 years ago
hmm. though i just noticed that it had been raining lol, well do you have to take cautious turns and whatnot cause of the small wheels? just curious :)
MrRedSG 4 years ago
Well, I did manage to put it on 2 wheels when making a 90-degree turn at 25mph+ (not advisable). I was able to correct without flipping it. Stability in slick conditions is a strong point for this vehicle - under no circumstances will the wheels just go out from under you. I've ridden on ice without studs, and it's quite stable.
mshults99 4 years ago
i live in se portland, how does that thing hold up during slick after rainfall?
MrRedSG 4 years ago
Just curious but why only one hub motor at the rear ?
why not 2 at the front..
or does that idea make it too hard to calibrate them so that they rotate at exactly the same speed ?
2Shye 4 years ago
Well my guess is you only need one motor and the rear is the driven wheel anyway. Not sure they do a single sided mounting hub either.
cyclomaniac 4 years ago
Calibration's the issue, as well as the control system. Could be done in theory, but the challenges outweigh the potential benefits. A single rear hub motor, even with only 350 watts, gets me over 3.5 miles of 7% grade at ~12mph - sufficient to keep the trip time under control. On level ground, I don't need or use the assist - the thing is so aero that I can maintain 20mph+ entirely on my own, and I'm no Lance Armstrong!
mshults99 4 years ago
あなたはこのgo-oneをインテルまで通勤に使われてりるのですか
one23nifty 4 years ago
'Fraid I can't read Kanji. Translation?
mshults99 4 years ago
はい彼は行1 を使用して毎日Intel に旅する
IQchallenged 4 years ago
I took Japanese before. I think he says "Do you use this go-one to commute to Intel?"
merakhagen 3 years ago
Thank you. Answer is 'sometimes'. The distance isn't the issue - the 3.5 mile, 7.5-percent hill is the issue. I usually take the train and commute on my conventional bike to/from the station. But sometimes I take the Go-One!
mshults99 3 years ago
As for power, I pedal upto 40, top speed is 52 km/hr, range is about 30 35 kms. Once you hit about 3o km, the wind has quite an adverse effect.
moviedude111 4 years ago
I love it, i gave up owning a car about 7 years ago, if i need one i borrow from my gf. I have been a lyrca since then, about 3 month ago i stumbled across ebikes, and got the 406. It is very quiet, and stealthy. I have a child trailer, so can haul around stuff in that if need be.
moviedude111 4 years ago
wow, seems like a lot of cash, good for you. How do you find other vehicles treat you? I have an electric bike, I think my set up on your aero dynamic set up would get a lot further range and speed. What is the speed you get upto that you find wind resistance is really hard to overcome?
moviedude111 4 years ago
I view it as cheaper than a Prius! :) Other vehicles give me plenty of room. Perhaps they think I'm a space alien. My setup is 80lbs without a motor, so your range is doubtless greater. Speed is limited by the governor @ 20mph. Wind resistance is a non-issue. I'm more aero than a Prius by FAR!
mshults99 4 years ago
Sorry I wasn't a little clearer, I have a 406 crystalite motor, with a 46 volt nicad hooked up to a mountain bike, i can cruise around at 45 km/hr, now my motor free spins, (just lift the tire off the ground and open up the throttle ) at about 63km/hr. I was just looking at these and thinking how much more effecient they would be, using less energy in almost any circumstance. I really hope that is the future for personal human transport, my hat is off to you.
moviedude111 4 years ago
I agree completely. How do you like the Crystalite? I like the BionX, but the Crystalite does have a substantial amount of power.
mshults99 4 years ago
How is it going?I love the crystallite, so far no problems. The only problem is I rely too much on the motor and not getting sufficient workout. I am looking to upgrade my batteries when the nicads give out. I think with Lipos and a non governed motor see some scary speeds on your spaceship.
moviedude111 4 years ago
Looking into that. I'm actually contemplating a small gasoline engine, just to help with range. Something that gets a few hundred miles to the gallon, especially with a human assist. Recharge times on batteries make it non-viable for really long distances.
I'll check out the Crystallite. I'd like to see just what kind of speed I could get out of a truly powerful assist motor!
mshults99 4 years ago
I can see your point on gas motors, technology, infrastructure is already there. There is a great site (endless sphere ) they're doing lots of good stuff with electrics. They are pretty knowledgeable friendly group.
moviedude111 4 years ago
how much??? without the electric??? very beautiful
moviedude111 4 years ago
With the dollar going in the tank against the euro, what you see here is about $11K, without the electric-assist (but with the canopy and the lighting system).
mshults99 4 years ago
It appears that the go-one is a great way to commute or for recreational joy, but I'm just concerned about the weight. Doesn't the new go-one weigh 60 pounds without motor? That would be practical, but 100lbs sounds a little too heavy.
solboard 4 years ago
I haven't put mine on a scale, but the company says that it weighs 31kg. Presumably that's with the canopy. My conversion table says that 31kg = 68lbs. So I guess my estimates are a bit off. With the motor and battery, it's 88lbs. Less than 100, but more than my road bike!
mshults99 4 years ago
The bottom line is that velomobiles without some kind of power assist are really only viable in areas that are mostly flat (and not too hot). With a power assist option, however, they become viable pretty much anywhere, even for riders who aren't super-strong.
mshults99 4 years ago
but it WAS funny when you popped out looking like an Xmen! hehehe
hondo1188 4 years ago
touche'! :) nice transportation right there. i'd love that for popping down the store to get a pack of smokes ya know, instead of using gas.
how much does the battery weigh anyways? you could rig it with some kindof tube for ventilation on your face for really hot days :D funny vid, neat machine and good responses to questions. 5star
hondo1188 4 years ago
Thanks! Battery and motor together weigh about 8kg's (~20lbs). So the unit is 100lbs with the motor, 80lbs without. I like that, since it means that I can still get home, over any hill in Portland, even if the battery dies. I'll be slow, but I'll get there. I don't recommend smoking with the canopy on, but it would work fine with the canopy off! :)
mshults99 4 years ago
unless you were going very slow in your video,and not
max speed
blazerblast 4 years ago
Yep, I was going slow. Started from a full stop, and this thing doesn't accelerate very fast. Parking lot speed limit is only 10mph, though, so no one goes very fast there! I average a significantly higher speed in the Go-One than I do on my racing bike. Above 20mph typically.
mshults99 4 years ago
what a slow piece of crap,you got only one hub motor,
and still slow,good thing you got aerodynamics,cause
that would be the biggest piece of shit on wheels
blazerblast 4 years ago
Care to race sometime, big talker? Come out to PIR on the 26th and I'll show you how slow I am - without a hub motor! :)
Seriously, I'm only 'slow' going up hills, where I can only manage 13mph or so up the Sylvan Hills with the assist. The rest of the way, I average over 20mph, which means that I'm not being assisted at all. My best door-to-door time from SE PDX to Hillsboro is 1:05. If you can do that route faster, then you're a stronger rider than me, sir.
mshults99 4 years ago
I managed to drag my 45-year-old body 19.3 miles around the race track in 1 hour in the Go-One, with no power assist (and no drafting). I could have done better, if I was in better shape, but that's still pretty respectable for an old guy!
mshults99 4 years ago
Nice vehicle. Was the tub molded in PDX?
CG
thehumancar 4 years ago
I'm afraid not. It's made in Germany by the Beyss corporation. They're a bunch of former aircraft assemblers who are experts at assembling composite materials. If I tried to do this myself, it wouldn't look nearly as nice!
mshults99 4 years ago
The other thing is they never allow much room for what I do which is to bring a heavy pile of books back from the library and also pick up a hundred pounds of groceries.
Other than that, a company called Altair is coming out with a new lithium nanosafe battery that charges in ten minutes at most any temperature and last 25 years. Huge improvements coming in the near future!
PatrikMacGoohan 4 years ago
I regularly carry 100lbs+ of groceries in a trailer behind the Go-One. Along with my 1-year-old. Fortunately, the hills aren't very big between my home and the grocery store! Charge time isn't the big issue for me with batteries - it's the duration of the charge that counts. With the BionX' Li-Ion battery, I'm only able to get about 40 miles of range in hilly terrain. It's enough, but it's a bit short of what I'd like to have. Re-charge time from a full discharge is about 4 hours.
mshults99 4 years ago
Hows the braking with the trailer? Someone else I ran across didn't like trailers for that. As to hills, couldn't you just carry two batteries?
PatrikMacGoohan 4 years ago
Braking is great when I'm using the regenerative braking on the rear wheel; a bit sluggish with just the drum brakes operating. I haven't had a reason for two batteries yet, but that's definitely a possibility. It's all just a weight vs. power calculation. You wouldn't want to use a Burley trailer for books - you need a hard-sided trailer for that.
mshults99 4 years ago
@mshults99 suggest get more batteries, I got mine on ebay from china - lifepo4 for cheap, compared to cost of go-one or even bionx not very much to double or triple range, guessing at most $400 to double.
multilis2 1 year ago
I like the look of this bike and the fact that it offers protection from the weather, but wouldn't it be hotter on a warm day in the sun? Wouldn't you get a baking effect? Also, it's likely to attract thieves. I want to use my bike for practical purposes. I don't worry about someone throwing my car into the bed of their pickup while I'm in Walmart. Can't say the same of a bike like this.
PatrikMacGoohan 4 years ago
The canopy is removable. On a hot day, that's what I do. It's still warmer than an upright bike, of course, simply because the aerodynamics are so good. Can't have good aero and good cooling wind at the same time, I'm afraid! If it's really hot, I typically ride my upright.
mshults99 4 years ago
As to theft - #1, it can be locked very securely through the rear fork. #2, it's quite bulky - one person can't casually lift it into a pickup. #3, it's quite identifiable - I don't think the cops would have trouble finding the 'yellow submarine trike', were it to get stolen, and #4 - I regularly ride it to the airport, where I leave it parked and locked for days at a time. No issues so far!
mshults99 4 years ago
That's good to know and it's definitely got the cool factor.
PatrikMacGoohan 4 years ago
very cool. Are you taking side roads or highways to commute? Please tell us how fast you are able to go (comfortably?) on the Go-one.
tailsthecat 4 years ago