let me guess OktayAtalay1983 ur turkish??? which if you are that would be the reason for this video. the Armenian Genocide did happen but u were tought to say it didnt. so i say one day Turkey will pay for there crime on Armenia. and before u ask im german-american
@OktayAtalay1983 hmm thats why most of the countries around EU want to join EU ????? like you !!!!than what i sould say about middle east ?? Iraq dont knows what is happening on ther own in their country .. same in Iran the only country that it has money and kind of reputation is Arab Imerats !! and thats it.. and about Turkey all ther life were nothink and still..
The claims of armenians are nothing but lies. In fact all their "scientific" work refere to so called "historic evidences" that are just based on british world war one propaganda like in this following video link for instance: watch?v=4iFnce-4e74&feature=related
There is also a history channel dokumentary about british ww1 propaganda. I give you the link: watch?v=x_FAOk4uMp8 (watch it from minute 7:00 on)
Turkey doesnt give a flying fuck to europe union... turkey is big and powerful not small country who needs to be protected.... most of the turkish population against europe union.. we can make our own battles we have 6th biggest army... we dont wanna be like greeks after we join europe... fall our economy down ... Say no to Eu for turkey.... i am against Eu
Turkey's history is most disgusting! whenever one of it's neighbors gets weakened, Turkey appears to strike. But when that neighbor gets it's pour back, Turkey retreats, makes a friendly smile and says: "oh, we didn't do anything".
ethnic groops in turkey..major ethnic groups (large portions of whom have been extensively Turkicized since the Seljuk and Ottoman periods) include the Abkhazians, Adjarians, Albanians, Arabs, Assyrians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Hamshenis, Kurds, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas and the three officially recognized minorities (per the Treaty of Lausanne), i.e. the Armenians, Greeks and Jews
ethnic groops in turkey..major ethnic groups (large portions of whom have been extensively Turkicized since the Seljuk and Ottoman periods) include the Abkhazians, Adjarians, Albanians, Arabs, Assyrians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Hamshenis, Kurds, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas and the three officially recognized minorities (per the Treaty of Lausanne), i.e. the Armenians, Greeks and Jews
The discussion also revolved around fundamental questions such as the kind of Europe we want, the definition of European identity, the borders of Europe and the interaction between Islam and Europe.
@JIMY45GR :)) Which Europe? Exclude Germany, what remains in Europe? France? if you ignore Paris remaining is just villages..UK? even the Queen begging to Arabs to get some funds..Italy? Other then couple of Carrera marble mountains, what's the remaining? Spain? with a collapsing economy? Greece? for sale... what you mean by Europe? Who cares about Europe any more? or who cares about the interaction between Islam & Europe? :))
Strong skepticism was expressed by the commentators, as well as the audience. It was argued that Turkey’s accession is not a realistic option because key EU member states, including France and Germany, are opposed to Turkey’s full accession, mainly because of the country’s sheer size (and the economic, demographic and political problems this might entail) and that most European countries favoured alternative arrangements: more than association, less than full membership.
ergenecon........... great achievement...!!! this is the corrupted turk army .. generals against generals and goverment.. a contiounsly fight bettwen islamist kemalists pacifists comunists democrats etc.. this is a nation!!!
oi bastard listen here!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greece if realy wants they will fuck you on their own!!!!!!!!! you are the one sucks american and uk dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep sucking turkey !!!!!!! u might made a national tradiotion!! because u dont have any!!!!!!!!!
@mrSExyGR oww...another gayreek got mad... Listen, keep quite...Especially if there are Turks around , you have to keep quite... You know why ? you are coming from a generation who caused implementation of a new word in English dictionary "homosexual" ..:))) donkey... what greece? you mean that beggar of euro zone licking germany day & night to get couple of billions more ! LOL...
@mrSExyGR :)))))))))))))))))) I like gayreeks...They always make me laugh.....you little monkey, better you think about what to eat instead of talking about Turks...
@OktayAtalay1983 only a few Citys A BIT Civilized Ankara and Costantnoupoli and u know why ... because they are comming to see ancient Greek Civilization
@mrSExyGR :))) hey little shiny..how old are u? hmm? you bloody bastard..you know nothing about nothing...just talking to talk...are u a gayreek? or a little armenian rat? which one..be honest and tell your "baba"
Well YOU KILL PEOPLE WHO WERE nothing TO DO WITH TERROR; its, SAME as TODAY ; USA KILL Just for CASE.. and your country is the best friend of them .. WORLD is NAZI PLACE; NAZI RULL IN USA IN TURKEY ; IN UK; ISRAEL; ect , and the propaganada make you dumbass to do what you are doing , helping that fighting for them ..
@haik1974 you are writing just to write...so stupid....accept, reject what ever you like...everybody knows that, you are licking american politicians...
@haik1974 The claims of armenians are nothing but lies. In fact all their "scientific" work refere to so called "historic evidences" that are just based on british world war one propaganda like in this following video link for instance: watch?v=4iFnce-4e74&feature=related
These supporters of Armenian lies, especially Armenians and their sick raised children, are really desperate and hopeless people on the subject. Their brain (if there is) is so badly poisoned that there is no cure for them.
Yes the point is WHY DO THEY ESCAPE FROM THE HISTORICAL INVESTIGATION IF THEY ARE TRUE. They sure will escape , because they are all bullshitters.
Dear Oktay Atalay, This is very well done. I congratulate you though at some frame Turks were mentioned in mistake as Turkiye while the events were passing before the establishment of the New Republic of Turkey.
@haik1974 where did you learn English? In a butcher shop?? Even while you were writing "LOL", it is so obvious that you tear your ass just to show yourself as if you are relaxed.. You are burning inside...By the way, again, your big uncle did not fulfill his promise...As expected...
@OktayAtalay1983n who care where did I learn english , I said you are so stupid, that trying to argument something wich did happens, and also prove it , telling that other wont have rights to tell you , turks, that you kill millon of people just cose they did it too , UNDERSTAND??
@haik1974 so? why are you tearing your ass donkey... keep announcing your bloody fake story... I will keep my truth...enjoy yourself...dont bark..keep silent
@OktayAtalay1983 you brainwashed I am not surprised.. well , realy this will take too long to argument, keep your fucking video online, so people will see how stupid you are ,
@haik1974 Donkey...Little donkey...Just read the first statement of your own prime minister...He is not my prime minister, your prime minister... Got it? are you able to understand what I wrote?
@OktayAtalay1983 we will get our lands back, today or tomorrow,, it will happens one day . event if you dont like the idea, you kill your citizens, and kill cose they were christians and of course never like to be part of your country ,, so.. dont call them treachers, dickhead, cose , they never were part of your country , you treat up today as second or third type people ..so.. realy again keep your video.. be happy with your work, nobody belive that video anyway 151 rep,
lmao....they were part of our country...for 900 and more years...dumbass....they can be called trachers...because they helped an invading enemy,you know...there is no second or third type people in turkey...yes,some racists may behave like that...but most of the people dont..and nobody killed them because they were christians,idiot...there were so many christian ethnic groups in the ottoman empire.slavs(a long list) ,greeks,etc.....armenians being one of them...
@netcap001 see , once you become a big muslim country , in that moment you will lost all, right now turkey try to look like euro country , but well , people inside, the mind, of people wont be changes just with a words, you still retarded and of course kill others for there different faith , call them how you want, slave, treacher, ect ,
@haik1974 why are you that interested in Turkiye? with our religion, minds etc... Put in your dirty mind, your religion doesn't make any difference for me... Regardless your religion, I know what dashnags did , why thet did... That simple... But not only you, almost all armenians are mentioning about christianity... This is a way to get some more support from christians and to show it as a war between christians & muslims? ;)) dont be funny...
@OktayAtalay1983 listen, I never said this is religion problem, GOD is the same, and all other is like a BOOK COVER, so you have your, we have our, I said, there was a CRIME; wich not paid , even not ask for forgiveness, understand, you go crazy , cose know that if you said, wedid in past, sorry , you have to return what you rob from all armenians that were killed,
@haik1974 Did Dashnags start to attack Muslim population? YesWere Dashnags were dreaming to have an independent Armenia in Ottoman territory? YesWas Ottoman in a war with westerns at West Anatolia and with Dashnags at East? yesDiscussion should start like that
@OktayAtalay1983 If someone talks about crimes and sins, without any single word about Armenians sins and crimes, the only thing they can hear will be hell with you ..It should be one by one Was there a war? YES Were Dashnags supported by Russia and after that by France , Greece and Italy against Ottoman? Yes
@OktayAtalay1983 Lets do it with common sense If someone says all Armenians were sitting in there home peacefully and Ottoman decided to destroy Armenians, I have nothing to discuss, the only reply can be hell with you
@OktayAtalay1983 even if start like that , you did kill people that were not dashnag, and you kill just in case.. during second world war, Armenia lost 300k solgiers, but you can see, nobody claim it, as it was war, and they go to fight and die, in Ottoman case, you kill your citizens, so.. its crime even if you try to hide it under the DASHNAGS, who of course want Armenia be independetn country , the story go way to past, 1828 etc
@haik1974 no way for any discussion with you...no way... as your 1.5 million (even you dont have any solid idea about the Armenian populatioin) , you are talking with ideas which have been dictated to you...
@OktayAtalay1983 see, you refuse, I did not said , 1.5 millon,. but even if was killed 500 or kess, that allready is CRIME;, you dont understand, , you just when see anyplace about this, think that you wil have to return the lands, thats all .. so.. one day you will, cose it will happens, again, not mess with religion , as we dont say anything bad about muslims, however you call us GIAVUR; or people who dont have faith .. and also , USA kill in IRAl maybe 2 M people. we dont like it
@haik1974 so.. and they yes, DID kill cose they are muslims, , WHY you not protest ? .. so.. please dont drive this problem , of muslim and christians, as its not so.. , am Christian and it hurt me when I see in Irak how many people die.
@haik1974 You see...You do not have any idea and you are saying why dont you protest?? Listen, Turkish Parliament rejected a law allowing american troops pass from Turkish territory to attack Iraq... That's why they spent almost 4 billion more since they shifted their troops through Kuwait... Even you don't know it..But you just talk...
@haik1974 and today, they are playing the same game with Iran... Sames as they played with Iraq... And again Turkiye opposes that strongly... And again the ! same actors on scene.. USA, UK, France, Germany, Italy.... Continuously they talk about nuclear as they were talking mass destructive chemical weapons !! in Iraq !!
@haik1974 lmao....i am muslim....but i dont care about christians...i know that some muslims can be bad and some christians can be good too....i dont give a damn about your religion...this has nothing to do with religion..you are only playing the christian card to get more people to support your cause...you are misusing their religious feelings...nobody was massacred because they were christian..
@haik1974 listen...let me make you a short-cut... don't tell me you speak so big... even if sun sets from east....even if not your bunch of soldiers that you call as army, whole europe comes with you, forget about even a single square meter of my land... second... nobody talks about you, neither as gavur nor with any other dirty word... third... especially istanbul, izmir, kayseri is full of Armenians..nobody has any problem with them....
@haik1974 and forget about that faulty idea.. "your land"?? what you mean by "your land" ...given to you by God?? Comon !! be serious...!! Then we should search the owner of the land before you , if your mind works with this logic...
lmaoo at what you said...even if your genocide happened the people you accuse are not in this world so nobody can ask for forgiveness....i am not going to ask forgiveness from you....because i didnt live in 1915....lmao....this kind of logic never applies in any law....
lmao.....nobody is slave and slaves dont exist anymore...i can call your forefathers traitors because they fought aganist my empire....just because russia stirred them up....btw turkey's stance today has nothing to do with the events in 1915....yes i am muslim but i dont care about others' beliefs....nobody gets killed because of different faith...that was maybe a thousand years ago...you must have crawled out of the 10th century or something..rofl..
i like it when you armenians use christianity to support your arguement and draw more attention to your stupid genocide myth...you will never get your "lands" back,suck dick they were never yours anyway,there were people here far before you.....by your faulty logic we should find the oldest people who were here(they are hitities not you...they were here far before you) and find their decendants and give these lands to them..
youtube clearly shows how many dumbasses are out there...it makes me nuts...it looks like certain armenians smoke some shit to pour out rubbish like that...i want some of that stuff....hahahaha lol
@haik1974 it was his personal beef with those generals...ataturk would never accept that his nation killed 1.5 million people...which doesnt hold water anyway...he sent them to prison and got some of the young turks killed...i know that...but he hated those people that is why he did that...their beef with each other goes waaay back...when they were in military school and the battle of tripoli in 1911 for example...waaay before your alleged genocide...
This is very simple..while Germany has no problem admitting it's past with the holocaust, and moving forward..turkey wants special consideration. Also, unlike the Jews in Europe, Armenians were "occupied" in their NATIVE land by the ottomans; they lived under a second class citizenship of the millet system, and a civilian population was systematically deported from their roots(homeland), starved, raped, mutilated, etc. This, along with other Christians NATIVES(Greeks, Assyrians, Maronites
@haik1974 do your best....If not, once again, you will prove you are talking just to talk..Actually, you're not saying anything, just bark-bark-bark....Miserable filthy dog.
@OktayAtalay1983 fuck you and your english . asshole, you all know how big asshole are you , dont you _? I will said it again, for ASS like you .. if you put the video about a "LIE" you as well put inside, that all other countries did , so it sound like why they can and we cant , watch your video again and again asshole, and get my point,
@haik1974 Donkey, even you dont have any idea about the history If I feel you have some knowledge, believe me I will take you seriouslyBut unfortunately, youre a typical internet player, thats allRead donkey, read...Read who forced you against Turks...and read what happened after that.. and read about dashnags..
How sad that Turkey has to spend so much time and energy looking over the shoulders like the guilty men they are. It's exhausting to spin your lies and have to pay others to do the same. It's sad.
@Dlaz52 Are you talking about paying ? Nice joke Although the list of politicians who are in your payroll in France, Belgium, USA are known to every one, announced every where, you are talking about paying ?
@AzadArdziv nerden biliyorsun ? Türkler anadoluya geldiklerinde anadoluda en büyük şehir kayseri (Caeserea) idi. Nüfusu 8 000 idi. Anadoluya göçen Türkmenlerin rakamı ise aşağı yukarı 2 milyondu. (ORD. PROF. İ. H. UZUNÇARŞILI). Senin bu uydurduğun yalan tıpkı Soykırım yalanı kadar büyük bir yalan. Ben damarımdaki kandan eminim.... Senin tasan olmasın benim kanımdan. Oğuz soylu, Ygdir boyluyum. SEN KENDİ KANINDAN ŞÜPHE ET.
OktayAtalay1983 Sikim ogli maybe i should fuck your mother first!!!
mrSExyGR 9 months ago
@mrSExyGR owww a bustard is barking... who fucks you :)))
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
let me guess OktayAtalay1983 ur turkish??? which if you are that would be the reason for this video. the Armenian Genocide did happen but u were tought to say it didnt. so i say one day Turkey will pay for there crime on Armenia. and before u ask im german-american
truexjrfan19 9 months ago
statistics; 65 % of Turkish citizens, doesnt have any intention in being a part of EU...There isnt any economic power other than Germany in Europe...
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
HEY BASTARD...WHAT'S YOUR NATIONALITY?
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
@OktayAtalay1983 hmm thats why most of the countries around EU want to join EU ????? like you !!!!than what i sould say about middle east ?? Iraq dont knows what is happening on ther own in their country .. same in Iran the only country that it has money and kind of reputation is Arab Imerats !! and thats it.. and about Turkey all ther life were nothink and still..
mrSExyGR 9 months ago
The claims of armenians are nothing but lies. In fact all their "scientific" work refere to so called "historic evidences" that are just based on british world war one propaganda like in this following video link for instance: watch?v=4iFnce-4e74&feature=related
There is also a history channel dokumentary about british ww1 propaganda. I give you the link: watch?v=x_FAOk4uMp8 (watch it from minute 7:00 on)
eBra1n 10 months ago
Turkey doesnt give a flying fuck to europe union... turkey is big and powerful not small country who needs to be protected.... most of the turkish population against europe union.. we can make our own battles we have 6th biggest army... we dont wanna be like greeks after we join europe... fall our economy down ... Say no to Eu for turkey.... i am against Eu
leaanka 11 months ago
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fucking ugly hairy armenian monkeys!
Nickname997 1 year ago
Turkey's history is most disgusting! whenever one of it's neighbors gets weakened, Turkey appears to strike. But when that neighbor gets it's pour back, Turkey retreats, makes a friendly smile and says: "oh, we didn't do anything".
MrGreyKa 1 year ago
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ethnic groops in turkey..major ethnic groups (large portions of whom have been extensively Turkicized since the Seljuk and Ottoman periods) include the Abkhazians, Adjarians, Albanians, Arabs, Assyrians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Hamshenis, Kurds, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas and the three officially recognized minorities (per the Treaty of Lausanne), i.e. the Armenians, Greeks and Jews
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
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ethnic groops in turkey..major ethnic groups (large portions of whom have been extensively Turkicized since the Seljuk and Ottoman periods) include the Abkhazians, Adjarians, Albanians, Arabs, Assyrians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Hamshenis, Kurds, Laz, Pomaks, Roma, Zazas and the three officially recognized minorities (per the Treaty of Lausanne), i.e. the Armenians, Greeks and Jews
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
The discussion also revolved around fundamental questions such as the kind of Europe we want, the definition of European identity, the borders of Europe and the interaction between Islam and Europe.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
@JIMY45GR :)) Which Europe? Exclude Germany, what remains in Europe? France? if you ignore Paris remaining is just villages..UK? even the Queen begging to Arabs to get some funds..Italy? Other then couple of Carrera marble mountains, what's the remaining? Spain? with a collapsing economy? Greece? for sale... what you mean by Europe? Who cares about Europe any more? or who cares about the interaction between Islam & Europe? :))
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
Strong skepticism was expressed by the commentators, as well as the audience. It was argued that Turkey’s accession is not a realistic option because key EU member states, including France and Germany, are opposed to Turkey’s full accession, mainly because of the country’s sheer size (and the economic, demographic and political problems this might entail) and that most European countries favoured alternative arrangements: more than association, less than full membership.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
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ergenecon........... great achievement...!!! this is the corrupted turk army .. generals against generals and goverment.. a contiounsly fight bettwen islamist kemalists pacifists comunists democrats etc.. this is a nation!!!
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
DEMON ALL TURKY FUCK MONSTER
JAG GRÅTER MIN FOLKET ÄR BORTA MINA TÅRARNA RINNER OCH SVIDER FAN IDIOTER Turkiet hur kan dom bli Europa aldrig dom ska säga sanningen
demon jävlar Turkiet ni ska betala och azerbajdzjan
asjldjpajssss 1 year ago
oi bastard listen here!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greece if realy wants they will fuck you on their own!!!!!!!!! you are the one sucks american and uk dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep sucking turkey !!!!!!! u might made a national tradiotion!! because u dont have any!!!!!!!!!
mrSExyGR 1 year ago
@mrSExyGR oww...another gayreek got mad... Listen, keep quite...Especially if there are Turks around , you have to keep quite... You know why ? you are coming from a generation who caused implementation of a new word in English dictionary "homosexual" ..:))) donkey... what greece? you mean that beggar of euro zone licking germany day & night to get couple of billions more ! LOL...
TurkAtalay 1 year ago
@mrSExyGR :)))))))))))))))))) I like gayreeks...They always make me laugh.....you little monkey, better you think about what to eat instead of talking about Turks...
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
@OktayAtalay1983 only a few Citys A BIT Civilized Ankara and Costantnoupoli and u know why ... because they are comming to see ancient Greek Civilization
mrSExyGR 9 months ago
@mrSExyGR MAL... you know what it means "MAL" beyond "idiot" you little monkey, take advise of your master and think about yourself... :)))
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
@mrSExyGR :))) hey little shiny..how old are u? hmm? you bloody bastard..you know nothing about nothing...just talking to talk...are u a gayreek? or a little armenian rat? which one..be honest and tell your "baba"
OktayAtalay1983 9 months ago
Well YOU KILL PEOPLE WHO WERE nothing TO DO WITH TERROR; its, SAME as TODAY ; USA KILL Just for CASE.. and your country is the best friend of them .. WORLD is NAZI PLACE; NAZI RULL IN USA IN TURKEY ; IN UK; ISRAEL; ect , and the propaganada make you dumbass to do what you are doing , helping that fighting for them ..
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 get relax....could you show any more licker bigger than you all over the world?
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 look in the mirror
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 you are writing just to write...so stupid....accept, reject what ever you like...everybody knows that, you are licking american politicians...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 f cuk americans f uck russians
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 The claims of armenians are nothing but lies. In fact all their "scientific" work refere to so called "historic evidences" that are just based on british world war one propaganda like in this following video link for instance: watch?v=4iFnce-4e74&feature=related
eBra1n 10 months ago
fsd
baksin 1 year ago
These supporters of Armenian lies, especially Armenians and their sick raised children, are really desperate and hopeless people on the subject. Their brain (if there is) is so badly poisoned that there is no cure for them.
Yes the point is WHY DO THEY ESCAPE FROM THE HISTORICAL INVESTIGATION IF THEY ARE TRUE. They sure will escape , because they are all bullshitters.
baksin 1 year ago
Dear Oktay Atalay, This is very well done. I congratulate you though at some frame Turks were mentioned in mistake as Turkiye while the events were passing before the establishment of the New Republic of Turkey.
baksin 1 year ago
@Oktay Atalay
Thank you
33madison33 1 year ago
Who supports the so called genocide can suck TURKISH DICKS.
and licking USA AS!!!!
IS A BIG FUCKING POLITICAL LIE BITCHISSSS
Shonny0570 1 year ago
@haik1974 where did you learn English? In a butcher shop?? Even while you were writing "LOL", it is so obvious that you tear your ass just to show yourself as if you are relaxed.. You are burning inside...By the way, again, your big uncle did not fulfill his promise...As expected...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983n who care where did I learn english , I said you are so stupid, that trying to argument something wich did happens, and also prove it , telling that other wont have rights to tell you , turks, that you kill millon of people just cose they did it too , UNDERSTAND??
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 so? why are you tearing your ass donkey... keep announcing your bloody fake story... I will keep my truth...enjoy yourself...dont bark..keep silent
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 listen asshole, you dont understand what I typ, so get fuck of from youtube, you are ignorant asshole
haik1974 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 you brainwashed I am not surprised.. well , realy this will take too long to argument, keep your fucking video online, so people will see how stupid you are ,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 Donkey...Little donkey...Just read the first statement of your own prime minister...He is not my prime minister, your prime minister... Got it? are you able to understand what I wrote?
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 we will get our lands back, today or tomorrow,, it will happens one day . event if you dont like the idea, you kill your citizens, and kill cose they were christians and of course never like to be part of your country ,, so.. dont call them treachers, dickhead, cose , they never were part of your country , you treat up today as second or third type people ..so.. realy again keep your video.. be happy with your work, nobody belive that video anyway 151 rep,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 talk to your bunch of soldiers...you call them as army...let them try to get it
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
lmao....they were part of our country...for 900 and more years...dumbass....they can be called trachers...because they helped an invading enemy,you know...there is no second or third type people in turkey...yes,some racists may behave like that...but most of the people dont..and nobody killed them because they were christians,idiot...there were so many christian ethnic groups in the ottoman empire.slavs(a long list) ,greeks,etc.....armenians being one of them...
netcap001 1 year ago
@netcap001 see , once you become a big muslim country , in that moment you will lost all, right now turkey try to look like euro country , but well , people inside, the mind, of people wont be changes just with a words, you still retarded and of course kill others for there different faith , call them how you want, slave, treacher, ect ,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 why are you that interested in Turkiye? with our religion, minds etc... Put in your dirty mind, your religion doesn't make any difference for me... Regardless your religion, I know what dashnags did , why thet did... That simple... But not only you, almost all armenians are mentioning about christianity... This is a way to get some more support from christians and to show it as a war between christians & muslims? ;)) dont be funny...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 listen, I never said this is religion problem, GOD is the same, and all other is like a BOOK COVER, so you have your, we have our, I said, there was a CRIME; wich not paid , even not ask for forgiveness, understand, you go crazy , cose know that if you said, wedid in past, sorry , you have to return what you rob from all armenians that were killed,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 Did Dashnags start to attack Muslim population? YesWere Dashnags were dreaming to have an independent Armenia in Ottoman territory? YesWas Ottoman in a war with westerns at West Anatolia and with Dashnags at East? yesDiscussion should start like that
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 If someone talks about crimes and sins, without any single word about Armenians sins and crimes, the only thing they can hear will be hell with you ..It should be one by one Was there a war? YES Were Dashnags supported by Russia and after that by France , Greece and Italy against Ottoman? Yes
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 Lets do it with common sense If someone says all Armenians were sitting in there home peacefully and Ottoman decided to destroy Armenians, I have nothing to discuss, the only reply can be hell with you
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 even if start like that , you did kill people that were not dashnag, and you kill just in case.. during second world war, Armenia lost 300k solgiers, but you can see, nobody claim it, as it was war, and they go to fight and die, in Ottoman case, you kill your citizens, so.. its crime even if you try to hide it under the DASHNAGS, who of course want Armenia be independetn country , the story go way to past, 1828 etc
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 no way for any discussion with you...no way... as your 1.5 million (even you dont have any solid idea about the Armenian populatioin) , you are talking with ideas which have been dictated to you...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 see, you refuse, I did not said , 1.5 millon,. but even if was killed 500 or kess, that allready is CRIME;, you dont understand, , you just when see anyplace about this, think that you wil have to return the lands, thats all .. so.. one day you will, cose it will happens, again, not mess with religion , as we dont say anything bad about muslims, however you call us GIAVUR; or people who dont have faith .. and also , USA kill in IRAl maybe 2 M people. we dont like it
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 so.. and they yes, DID kill cose they are muslims, , WHY you not protest ? .. so.. please dont drive this problem , of muslim and christians, as its not so.. , am Christian and it hurt me when I see in Irak how many people die.
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 You see...You do not have any idea and you are saying why dont you protest?? Listen, Turkish Parliament rejected a law allowing american troops pass from Turkish territory to attack Iraq... That's why they spent almost 4 billion more since they shifted their troops through Kuwait... Even you don't know it..But you just talk...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@haik1974 and today, they are playing the same game with Iran... Sames as they played with Iraq... And again Turkiye opposes that strongly... And again the ! same actors on scene.. USA, UK, France, Germany, Italy.... Continuously they talk about nuclear as they were talking mass destructive chemical weapons !! in Iraq !!
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@haik1974 lmao....i am muslim....but i dont care about christians...i know that some muslims can be bad and some christians can be good too....i dont give a damn about your religion...this has nothing to do with religion..you are only playing the christian card to get more people to support your cause...you are misusing their religious feelings...nobody was massacred because they were christian..
netcap001 1 year ago
@haik1974 listen...let me make you a short-cut... don't tell me you speak so big... even if sun sets from east....even if not your bunch of soldiers that you call as army, whole europe comes with you, forget about even a single square meter of my land... second... nobody talks about you, neither as gavur nor with any other dirty word... third... especially istanbul, izmir, kayseri is full of Armenians..nobody has any problem with them....
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@haik1974 and forget about that faulty idea.. "your land"?? what you mean by "your land" ...given to you by God?? Comon !! be serious...!! Then we should search the owner of the land before you , if your mind works with this logic...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@haik1974 yes they did want an independent armenia. that is why it was treachery. see,they had to fight the empire to establish their own state..
netcap001 1 year ago
lmaoo at what you said...even if your genocide happened the people you accuse are not in this world so nobody can ask for forgiveness....i am not going to ask forgiveness from you....because i didnt live in 1915....lmao....this kind of logic never applies in any law....
netcap001 1 year ago
lmao.....nobody is slave and slaves dont exist anymore...i can call your forefathers traitors because they fought aganist my empire....just because russia stirred them up....btw turkey's stance today has nothing to do with the events in 1915....yes i am muslim but i dont care about others' beliefs....nobody gets killed because of different faith...that was maybe a thousand years ago...you must have crawled out of the 10th century or something..rofl..
netcap001 1 year ago
@haik1974
i like it when you armenians use christianity to support your arguement and draw more attention to your stupid genocide myth...you will never get your "lands" back,suck dick they were never yours anyway,there were people here far before you.....by your faulty logic we should find the oldest people who were here(they are hitities not you...they were here far before you) and find their decendants and give these lands to them..
netcap001 1 year ago
youtube clearly shows how many dumbasses are out there...it makes me nuts...it looks like certain armenians smoke some shit to pour out rubbish like that...i want some of that stuff....hahahaha lol
netcap001 1 year ago
@netcap001 listen, ATATURK ACCEPT it was it, mass killings, cirme, and send your 3 TOP GENERALS to PRISON; , read your history ,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 it was his personal beef with those generals...ataturk would never accept that his nation killed 1.5 million people...which doesnt hold water anyway...he sent them to prison and got some of the young turks killed...i know that...but he hated those people that is why he did that...their beef with each other goes waaay back...when they were in military school and the battle of tripoli in 1911 for example...waaay before your alleged genocide...
netcap001 1 year ago
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This is very simple..while Germany has no problem admitting it's past with the holocaust, and moving forward..turkey wants special consideration. Also, unlike the Jews in Europe, Armenians were "occupied" in their NATIVE land by the ottomans; they lived under a second class citizenship of the millet system, and a civilian population was systematically deported from their roots(homeland), starved, raped, mutilated, etc. This, along with other Christians NATIVES(Greeks, Assyrians, Maronites
tokochakatin 1 year ago
@haik1974 even you're not able to recognize ...so no need to explain to you...die in your hopeless stupidity ;)
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
in your place, I will remove the video,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 do your best....If not, once again, you will prove you are talking just to talk..Actually, you're not saying anything, just bark-bark-bark....Miserable filthy dog.
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 fuck you and your english . asshole, you all know how big asshole are you , dont you _? I will said it again, for ASS like you .. if you put the video about a "LIE" you as well put inside, that all other countries did , so it sound like why they can and we cant , watch your video again and again asshole, and get my point,
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 stop jumping up & down and tearing your ass...Hell with you...You bloody liar...You're coming from a generation famous with treachery...
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@OktayAtalay1983 Treachery??? you are crazy as well, fuck you
haik1974 1 year ago
@haik1974 Donkey, even you dont have any idea about the history If I feel you have some knowledge, believe me I will take you seriouslyBut unfortunately, youre a typical internet player, thats allRead donkey, read...Read who forced you against Turks...and read what happened after that.. and read about dashnags..
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
How sad that Turkey has to spend so much time and energy looking over the shoulders like the guilty men they are. It's exhausting to spin your lies and have to pay others to do the same. It's sad.
Dlaz52 1 year ago
@Dlaz52 Are you talking about paying ? Nice joke Although the list of politicians who are in your payroll in France, Belgium, USA are known to every one, announced every where, you are talking about paying ?
OktayAtalay1983 1 year ago
@AzadArdziv nerden biliyorsun ? Türkler anadoluya geldiklerinde anadoluda en büyük şehir kayseri (Caeserea) idi. Nüfusu 8 000 idi. Anadoluya göçen Türkmenlerin rakamı ise aşağı yukarı 2 milyondu. (ORD. PROF. İ. H. UZUNÇARŞILI). Senin bu uydurduğun yalan tıpkı Soykırım yalanı kadar büyük bir yalan. Ben damarımdaki kandan eminim.... Senin tasan olmasın benim kanımdan. Oğuz soylu, Ygdir boyluyum. SEN KENDİ KANINDAN ŞÜPHE ET.
muzaffer0618 1 year ago