wow...asked for his helmet, got pissy with him then demanded his helmet...other cop shows up...biker says is has violated his rites...cops walk away///priceless
I see the haters talking about the guys who got tickets, the haters dont understand that our rights are being taken away one at a time so these 2 fellas were just standing there ground, so the haters can kiss cop ass all day long as people like myself work hard to get OUR rights back.
The thing is, the cop gave him a ticket, then went on to ask for his helmet, its a bit like a cop giving you a ticket for a busted back light then demanding you fix the light there and then. ass holes or not, the bikers had a right to refuse any more interaction with the cops
I thought the Cop handled it very well due to the me constantly questioning him. but taking a picture of a person because you want to win a case? As a future Game Warden I would have never treated these men in such a crude manner.
Cop 1 to Shift Sergeant: "Sorry Boss, I thought they were idiot bikers like all the others who do exactly as we say without ever questioning our authority or whether or not we are following legal protocols...my bad." Shift Sergeants response to Cop 1: "That's it- no donuts for you at shift change, and you're back to working the crosswalk in front of the elementary school, you buffoon!" LOVE iT!!!!
Cop 1 to Shift Sergeant: "Sorry Boss, I thought they were idiot bikers like all the others who do exactly as we say without ever questioning our authority or whether or not we are following legal protocols...my bad." Shift Sergeants response to Cop 1: "That's it- no donuts for you at shift change, and you're back to working the crosswalk in front of the elementary school, you buffoon!" LOVE iT!!!!!
Those Guys are just ass holes and need a good ole ass beating they think they know it all and fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. The Police officers are just tring to do there job they should just took it up with the courts. I hate fuckers like that and that is why i sold my custom Big Boy and bought me a Busa so i did not have to deal with dick heads like that.
@MyMikey111 , Busa or not, you will still have to deal with them when they pull you over. Don't hate them, especially if you think they are just trying to do their job.
@BOLTofCalifornia I DONT HATE THE COPS HELL I UNDERSTAND THEM DOING THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DUMB SHITS ON THE BIKES. READ IT. i RESPECT THE POLICE OFFICERS Thanks
@MyMikey111 Dick heads? They know their rights and were standing up for them. You bought the Busa so your boyfriend can straddle closer to you. Kick rocks you uninformed, lack of intellect, human failure.
@MyMikey111 Cops are worthless assholes that think their badge protects them but it don't lol , Small town cops get a little too big for there pants and forget people like me don't give a fuck .
Good work you guys, I hope you make these little roving tax collectors miserable as hell. I hope you end up owning their homes and pensions. They are the ones who aught to be in jail for violating the constitution. (and our freedom) They make me sick and I don't know how they live with themselves.
You clearly have done no research into what your Rights are, or what the law on this says. That cop testified in a court of law he has violated motorcyclists Rights, this same way, over 50 times. If it doesn't matter to you that a cop will disregard you and your Rights, then what Soviet Block country are you from?
This video has nothing to do with macho or cool or stupid; it is about insuring you have your Rights. Wake up.
@BOLTofCalifornia Ya know, no one needs much research to know that these asshole cops are violating peoples FREEDOM to do what they will with their own bodies. It's really that simple. They haven't the right to tell ANYONE what do do. Thank you for your service against this blue shirted tyrants!
The law HAS been changed - that's what this cop doesn't want to believe.
There are 3 branches of government, and the Judicial Branch changed the law, by limiting what cops are allowed to do and telling them what not to do. It's called Case Law. This cop ignores all that.
He's the dumbass, to use your phrase.
Judge's rulings change how laws are enforced constantly, but if the cop ignores those rulings, you can get a ticket for not doing anything wrong.
I appreciate the video and it clearly illustrates poor officer training, a lack of knowledge regarding helmet law and bias.
While I can appreciate the job many officers choose to do in trying to prevent crime and protect public safety, this is an example of what an officer should not do or say.
The biker acted properly and was within his rights to both ask for the officer's Supervisor and to refuse to remove his helmet. Allowing himself to be arrested may have added impact to the case.
That seems like a foreign word. I looked it up. My ancestry is the type that would not wear one of those.
Although motorcycling is similar to a Religion for me, believe me, this aerodynamic helmet is strictly for complying with the law; especially the legislative intent of giving me an additional safety benefit.
Some legal helmets look like racing equipment, even though racing equipment is not legal to use on road. Looks are not relevant to legality, as case law states. Thanks, Johnny.
Take your helmet off or you're going to jail.....lol... for what? He already has the ticket! Surely not to check for compliance or what ever excuse he gives...
For what? Correct. I have no doubt the officer, who claimed to be acting only in the interest of my safety (heheheh), knew full well, the California Penal Code does not authorize any cop to Jail any citizen for an alleged violation of any type of traffic infraction.
Maybe he really was unaware, and was not trying to BS me into sumbitting to an empty threat?
(Naw, you're right; nobody on the planet would believe that.)
A DOT label only creates a rebuttable presumption of compliance. Bianco v. CHP. Simply placing one on headware does not create a presumption of compliance. That "is unreasonable. . . because . . . it would mean that a DOT symbol affixed to a yarmulke, a doorag, or a New Year party hat renders each presumptively compliant with the . . .Helmet Law . . . Such a notion is absurd." CHP v. Superior Court. The "helmet" here does not comply with DOT coverage requirements. 49 CFR § 571.218.
Some rogue cops have a 17 year history of ignoring the Manufacturer Certification and the Presumption of Compliance for legal helmets, yet never writing a ticket for a single recalled helmet, whose legality has actually been rebutted, as defined in the law and title 49 regulation which determines all this. A helmet the size of a yarmulke is a yarmulke and not a helmet, the same way a legal helmet the size of a bowling ball is really just a bowling ball, not a helmet.
Adirondack, Your opinion is contradicted by statistics. Only if you cherry pick certain stats the way some pro-helmet lobbys do, will your stated opinion seem valid.
Far more serious injuries and deaths occur from damage to the chest and abdomen, yet helmets are a focus for anti motorcycling lobby because helmet laws keep ridership amd miles at a minimum.
The "public burden" argument is a myth that has statistically been disproved many times. It is commonly heard by helmet law proponents who want to think that a public financial burden gives them the right to dictate what type of safety equipment a rider should wear. This despite the fact that as a percentage, bikers carry more private insurance than the non-riding public.
Using this logic, can I then state that all motorists should wear helmets while driving so I have less monetary burden?
Maybe 2 guys got some legal knowledge. Shouldn't a cop that is violating the law and violating your 4th and 14th Amendment Rights be stopped? I filed the Internal Affairs Complaint last Thursday. Case law in CA says it's a helmet and case law says the cop's in trouble.
What happened in the video is a little bit like wearing your seatbelt, then getting a ticket for not wearing one. The cop then says you weren't wearing the type of seatbelt he would wear.
This Cop is fucking GAY!
msk1911 3 weeks ago
wow...asked for his helmet, got pissy with him then demanded his helmet...other cop shows up...biker says is has violated his rites...cops walk away///priceless
aprylsfun1 3 months ago
I see the haters talking about the guys who got tickets, the haters dont understand that our rights are being taken away one at a time so these 2 fellas were just standing there ground, so the haters can kiss cop ass all day long as people like myself work hard to get OUR rights back.
32plopper 3 months ago
The thing is, the cop gave him a ticket, then went on to ask for his helmet, its a bit like a cop giving you a ticket for a busted back light then demanding you fix the light there and then. ass holes or not, the bikers had a right to refuse any more interaction with the cops
TheBoHoBoy 4 months ago
i find it odd that no one near by had a really big gun
SPmQQse 5 months ago
Government nazi pulling revenue for the man, plain and simple
salcamarano 6 months ago
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balcrasin 7 months ago
Any cop who fucks with another american about a petty ass government regulated helmet .........needs his ass beat.
Disrespectful fuckin cops!
eyeopen 10 months ago
I thought the Cop handled it very well due to the me constantly questioning him. but taking a picture of a person because you want to win a case? As a future Game Warden I would have never treated these men in such a crude manner.
317rebelcowboy 11 months ago
that cop loves fuckin guys
BestTits 1 year ago
There's no way that helmet is DOT approved. It doesn't even cover his head. IDIOT
jmezse 1 year ago
You can't put a $300.00 helmet on a 25cent head.
Bennyhill68able 1 year ago
How did this pan out?
bakorexer 1 year ago
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Cop 1 to Shift Sergeant: "Sorry Boss, I thought they were idiot bikers like all the others who do exactly as we say without ever questioning our authority or whether or not we are following legal protocols...my bad." Shift Sergeants response to Cop 1: "That's it- no donuts for you at shift change, and you're back to working the crosswalk in front of the elementary school, you buffoon!" LOVE iT!!!!
regis293 1 year ago
Cop 1 to Shift Sergeant: "Sorry Boss, I thought they were idiot bikers like all the others who do exactly as we say without ever questioning our authority or whether or not we are following legal protocols...my bad." Shift Sergeants response to Cop 1: "That's it- no donuts for you at shift change, and you're back to working the crosswalk in front of the elementary school, you buffoon!" LOVE iT!!!!!
regis293 1 year ago
I love watching people that know what they are talking about call out people that "think" they know what they are talking about.
Rationality FTW!
village1diot 1 year ago
Fuck them they are dick heads and the cops are just tring to do there job. Fuck them
MyMikey111 1 year ago
Those Guys are just ass holes and need a good ole ass beating they think they know it all and fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. The Police officers are just tring to do there job they should just took it up with the courts. I hate fuckers like that and that is why i sold my custom Big Boy and bought me a Busa so i did not have to deal with dick heads like that.
MyMikey111 1 year ago
@MyMikey111 , Busa or not, you will still have to deal with them when they pull you over. Don't hate them, especially if you think they are just trying to do their job.
BOLTofCalifornia 1 year ago
@BOLTofCalifornia I DONT HATE THE COPS HELL I UNDERSTAND THEM DOING THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DUMB SHITS ON THE BIKES. READ IT. i RESPECT THE POLICE OFFICERS Thanks
MyMikey111 1 year ago
@MyMikey111 Dumbshits on the bikes?
The officer's bike was sititng right there.
Are you sure you respect police officers?
But if you respect them, how can you respect this one after seeing what he does?
State and federal case law calls what he did, a violation of the rider's 4th Amendment Right.
BOLTofCalifornia 1 year ago 2
@MyMikey111 Dick heads? They know their rights and were standing up for them. You bought the Busa so your boyfriend can straddle closer to you. Kick rocks you uninformed, lack of intellect, human failure.
bakorexer 1 year ago
@MyMikey111 Cops are worthless assholes that think their badge protects them but it don't lol , Small town cops get a little too big for there pants and forget people like me don't give a fuck .
crazyhorse1369 1 year ago
In a nutshell the cops attitude is "I'll do what I want, and if I'm wrong, we'll deal with that later." Geez.
OrovilleTim 1 year ago 4
@OrovilleTim The Internal Affairs process has much the same strategy.
The officer can do whatever he wants to as long as they can't prove he did it maliciously and on purpose.
BOLTofCalifornia 1 year ago
Good work you guys, I hope you make these little roving tax collectors miserable as hell. I hope you end up owning their homes and pensions. They are the ones who aught to be in jail for violating the constitution. (and our freedom) They make me sick and I don't know how they live with themselves.
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 1 year ago
xkev botox,
You clearly have done no research into what your Rights are, or what the law on this says. That cop testified in a court of law he has violated motorcyclists Rights, this same way, over 50 times. If it doesn't matter to you that a cop will disregard you and your Rights, then what Soviet Block country are you from?
This video has nothing to do with macho or cool or stupid; it is about insuring you have your Rights. Wake up.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
@BOLTofCalifornia Ya know, no one needs much research to know that these asshole cops are violating peoples FREEDOM to do what they will with their own bodies. It's really that simple. They haven't the right to tell ANYONE what do do. Thank you for your service against this blue shirted tyrants!
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 1 year ago
cop sounds like a fagget
grim0008 2 years ago
If you dont like the law then have it changes, dont attack officers who have no say over what the laws are dumbass.
2204Alpha 2 years ago
Alpha,
The law HAS been changed - that's what this cop doesn't want to believe.
There are 3 branches of government, and the Judicial Branch changed the law, by limiting what cops are allowed to do and telling them what not to do. It's called Case Law. This cop ignores all that.
He's the dumbass, to use your phrase.
Judge's rulings change how laws are enforced constantly, but if the cop ignores those rulings, you can get a ticket for not doing anything wrong.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
I appreciate the video and it clearly illustrates poor officer training, a lack of knowledge regarding helmet law and bias.
While I can appreciate the job many officers choose to do in trying to prevent crime and protect public safety, this is an example of what an officer should not do or say.
The biker acted properly and was within his rights to both ask for the officer's Supervisor and to refuse to remove his helmet. Allowing himself to be arrested may have added impact to the case.
ccrider77 2 years ago 2
looks like a yarmulke with a chin strap.
ecvjohnny 2 years ago
That seems like a foreign word. I looked it up. My ancestry is the type that would not wear one of those.
Although motorcycling is similar to a Religion for me, believe me, this aerodynamic helmet is strictly for complying with the law; especially the legislative intent of giving me an additional safety benefit.
Some legal helmets look like racing equipment, even though racing equipment is not legal to use on road. Looks are not relevant to legality, as case law states. Thanks, Johnny.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
Take your helmet off or you're going to jail.....lol... for what? He already has the ticket! Surely not to check for compliance or what ever excuse he gives...
oglilp2fo 2 years ago 3
oglilp2fo,
For what? Correct. I have no doubt the officer, who claimed to be acting only in the interest of my safety (heheheh), knew full well, the California Penal Code does not authorize any cop to Jail any citizen for an alleged violation of any type of traffic infraction.
Maybe he really was unaware, and was not trying to BS me into sumbitting to an empty threat?
(Naw, you're right; nobody on the planet would believe that.)
OK, he's just a liar using intimidation tactics.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
So did you beat the ticket?
UnkleDavo 2 years ago
A DOT label only creates a rebuttable presumption of compliance. Bianco v. CHP. Simply placing one on headware does not create a presumption of compliance. That "is unreasonable. . . because . . . it would mean that a DOT symbol affixed to a yarmulke, a doorag, or a New Year party hat renders each presumptively compliant with the . . .Helmet Law . . . Such a notion is absurd." CHP v. Superior Court. The "helmet" here does not comply with DOT coverage requirements. 49 CFR § 571.218.
DavisCalif 2 years ago
DavisCalif,
Some rogue cops have a 17 year history of ignoring the Manufacturer Certification and the Presumption of Compliance for legal helmets, yet never writing a ticket for a single recalled helmet, whose legality has actually been rebutted, as defined in the law and title 49 regulation which determines all this. A helmet the size of a yarmulke is a yarmulke and not a helmet, the same way a legal helmet the size of a bowling ball is really just a bowling ball, not a helmet.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
when someone wont wear a helmet and they have a minor accident that paralises them then the tax payers support them for the rest of their life
AdirondackNY 2 years ago
Adirondack, Your opinion is contradicted by statistics. Only if you cherry pick certain stats the way some pro-helmet lobbys do, will your stated opinion seem valid.
Far more serious injuries and deaths occur from damage to the chest and abdomen, yet helmets are a focus for anti motorcycling lobby because helmet laws keep ridership amd miles at a minimum.
Thanks for trying, anyway.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago
The "public burden" argument is a myth that has statistically been disproved many times. It is commonly heard by helmet law proponents who want to think that a public financial burden gives them the right to dictate what type of safety equipment a rider should wear. This despite the fact that as a percentage, bikers carry more private insurance than the non-riding public.
Using this logic, can I then state that all motorists should wear helmets while driving so I have less monetary burden?
ccrider77 2 years ago 2
Not too much time...
Maybe 2 guys got some legal knowledge. Shouldn't a cop that is violating the law and violating your 4th and 14th Amendment Rights be stopped? I filed the Internal Affairs Complaint last Thursday. Case law in CA says it's a helmet and case law says the cop's in trouble.
blue91springhog 2 years ago 9
What happened in the video is a little bit like wearing your seatbelt, then getting a ticket for not wearing one. The cop then says you weren't wearing the type of seatbelt he would wear.
blue91springhog 2 years ago 2
what a waste of resources
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Nice work Don and Mark. Let us know how it turns out. The non-correctable thing sux. Love is a trip. Steven. BikersRights
shmerls 2 years ago 5
right on! way to stand up for your rights. we cant let them get away with this kind of harassment anymore.
red1100cc 2 years ago 3
Good job!
mxracer95x 2 years ago
....and those helmets the 2 guys are wearing ARE legal.
That is based on California law, and case law.
BOLTofCalifornia 2 years ago