For a while this has been one of my least favourite Manic Street Preachers albums. I never understood the critical acclaim surrounding it. Typically, I always thought Everything Must Go and TIMTTMY were better (I still think they are great records). But after about a month of repeated listenings, its reputation makes sense to me. It's a difficult swallow to begin with, but damn it's rewarding! Probably the finest achievement in the history of Welsh music...
@thecrossfirecasualty Did you just compare The Manics to Weezer? Im sure a band who write songs about the darkest things in our society like depression, anorexia, the french cival war, and quote people like Pollock, Mailer and Plath in their lyrics will be chuffed to beans being compared to a band who write songs about sweaters and hash pipes
@TheCallingCardMusic Sonically they sound like them. And you should read inbetween the lines of Weezer's lyrics. The sweater song is a metaphor for depression. Rivers Cuomo just uses weird humour.
interesting the two lines you quote aren't the Manics' original lines! One is from a Spanish Civil War poster, the other from an interview with a Welsh miner who went to fight in the war. But completely on the mark that it's pretty impossible to think of better lines in pop music - they appropriated well in addition to writing original gems...
i used to not like the manics, until i decided to give this record a listen, in a way it helped me to enjoy their other work more (though the holy bible is still their best work imo)
I have to support the original poster (2 years late!) I also really disliked the Manics (You Love Us etc) then they made The Holy Bible and here I am (what 18 years later) and I still love them. Even Nicky Wire who made nasty comments about Michael Stipe. My favourite line is from a different album: "If you tolerate this your children will be next" - actually thats as good a line as I can can think of. But I was going to post "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists".
@johnnybriggs118 Interesting - I can't see how one could hate Motorcycle Emptiness, Little Baby Nothing et al, but clearly for quite a few people those songs didn't work and these did. Comments about Michael Stipe weren't about Stipe himself though (they're fans of REM) - clumsily as they came out, they were intended to be about the way in which musicians were deified when ill/dead, or something like that (I can't recall exactly, but the explanation seemed sane enough!).
Pure genius, both from a musical and lyrical standpoint. Also a travesty that it is perhaps one of the most underrated, underappreciated albums in music history.
I think everybody can listen to MSP. So many people can relate to their lyrics and their melodies are so good and beautiful, and the songs are class. Just a great band in every way.
this is the best and only really good album by the msp, i agree 100 percent dont worry about the dick fan boys whining about your opinion they should just be happy you posted this and shut up
Well yes, he did cut himself really bad, he carved ' 4 real' in his arm during an interview and signed himself into a mental hospital, so yes, he was low.
@HeatherHORRORz Yeah i know about the "4 real" self made wound.You wonder if the rest of the band ever talked to him about his self-harming and made him realise he didn't need to do it.
I once saw a candid interview with Nicky in which he depicts going up to Richey's room in their hotel one night - they were touring America at the time, in 1994 I believe - to find him cutting at himself. Nicky said that he stayed and spoke to him, trying to reason with him, but Richey's desperate response when told to stop was, "but it makes me feel so good". I think Nicky realised then how serious it had gotten and how little he could do to prevent Richey from self-harming.
Wrong. The Manics were not heading to tour in America the day after Richey disappeared; James and Richey were heading to America without the rest of the band to promote 'The Holy Bible' album. The Manics as a band, with Richey, have played in America many times, hence all of the photographs of them in Disneyland, Florida. The Nicky quote is most definitely accurate. You can hear him say it for yourself in the Manics documentary 'From There To Here'. Thus, you are ameliorated.
I didn't hate the music (I didn't listen to it) I hated the band. This was when the Manics first came out and they acted in a very arrogant way . It was pretty much what most people thought about them back in 1990-92.
@mousegeek I don't think you're a dick, but the early Manics were arrrogant in a different way from other bands - they WERE better than the others, for a start! And they were fucking rock n roll, properly, not in the shit hackneyed way so many bands claim to be... Anyways, thanks for putting this up :)
maybe so but if the music is not to my liking then i don't like it. there are no songs at all that i like where the melodies and music are shit but i like the lyrics so i like the song
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DUMB CUNT SAME DUMB QUESTION (*dulling*)
thlaylia 3 weeks ago
Great ending
Two dollars you rub her tits
Three dollars you rub her ass
Five dollars you can play with her pussy
or you can lick her tits
Choice is yours
ABoyInTheBush 1 month ago
I nearly bursted into tears at the end of this song for the text is so powerful!
lyonslaforet 1 month ago
For a while this has been one of my least favourite Manic Street Preachers albums. I never understood the critical acclaim surrounding it. Typically, I always thought Everything Must Go and TIMTTMY were better (I still think they are great records). But after about a month of repeated listenings, its reputation makes sense to me. It's a difficult swallow to begin with, but damn it's rewarding! Probably the finest achievement in the history of Welsh music...
Colliermoose 3 months ago
Shocking I know but I've never listened to the Manics before. I know they're iconic but I never got round to it. This sounds a lot like early Weezer.
thecrossfirecasualty 3 months ago
@thecrossfirecasualty Did you just compare The Manics to Weezer? Im sure a band who write songs about the darkest things in our society like depression, anorexia, the french cival war, and quote people like Pollock, Mailer and Plath in their lyrics will be chuffed to beans being compared to a band who write songs about sweaters and hash pipes
TheCallingCardMusic 3 months ago
@TheCallingCardMusic Sonically they sound like them. And you should read inbetween the lines of Weezer's lyrics. The sweater song is a metaphor for depression. Rivers Cuomo just uses weird humour.
thecrossfirecasualty 3 months ago
@thecrossfirecasualty no, you wrong. The Manic Street Preachers doesn't sounds like Weezer. Weezer sounds like Manic Street Preachers.
142ldiferALTl144 3 months ago 4
One of the greatest Manics songs...
Littlestevieboy 4 months ago
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Could someone upload a video of this song with the lyrics in the video? I would really appreciate it.
Odieandgarfield 4 months ago
Just an ambulance, at the bottom of a cliff. RIP Richey
ruadriob 5 months ago
interesting the two lines you quote aren't the Manics' original lines! One is from a Spanish Civil War poster, the other from an interview with a Welsh miner who went to fight in the war. But completely on the mark that it's pretty impossible to think of better lines in pop music - they appropriated well in addition to writing original gems...
baboon2525 5 months ago
This song has the most truthful, meaningful and realistic lyrics ever, Richey was something special <3
MissLorenM 5 months ago
i used to not like the manics, until i decided to give this record a listen, in a way it helped me to enjoy their other work more (though the holy bible is still their best work imo)
danlikesmusicalot 6 months ago
I have to support the original poster (2 years late!) I also really disliked the Manics (You Love Us etc) then they made The Holy Bible and here I am (what 18 years later) and I still love them. Even Nicky Wire who made nasty comments about Michael Stipe. My favourite line is from a different album: "If you tolerate this your children will be next" - actually thats as good a line as I can can think of. But I was going to post "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists".
johnnybriggs118 6 months ago
@johnnybriggs118 Interesting - I can't see how one could hate Motorcycle Emptiness, Little Baby Nothing et al, but clearly for quite a few people those songs didn't work and these did. Comments about Michael Stipe weren't about Stipe himself though (they're fans of REM) - clumsily as they came out, they were intended to be about the way in which musicians were deified when ill/dead, or something like that (I can't recall exactly, but the explanation seemed sane enough!).
baboon2525 5 months ago
EVERYTHING is shit except the MANICS!!!
vodloxstowel 6 months ago
Stop bitching and enjoy the music :)
schabe 7 months ago
The Holy Bible is the Manic Street Preachers' masterpiece. They never reached such a peak after that.
lyonslaforet 8 months ago 2
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Pure genius, both from a musical and lyrical standpoint. Also a travesty that it is perhaps one of the most underrated, underappreciated albums in music history.
badsyntax 9 months ago
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badsyntax 9 months ago
My parents wanted a girl, so they tore off my cock.
defenestration1000 10 months ago 3
I think everybody can listen to MSP. So many people can relate to their lyrics and their melodies are so good and beautiful, and the songs are class. Just a great band in every way.
HonkyCat90 1 year ago
this is the best album ever. better than the beatles by a country mile
happyman64issocool 1 year ago 9
this is the best and only really good album by the msp, i agree 100 percent dont worry about the dick fan boys whining about your opinion they should just be happy you posted this and shut up
EnglishClassroomGame 1 year ago
Wow, the first song iove ever heared of them, so so creepy, so so so so so amazing <3
ShineOnCrazyDiamond1 1 year ago
I love Richey!!!!!!
Radioheader 1 year ago
this truly is the best album they did, Richie was amazing .
its such a depressing album but so true. the lyrics are so powerful.
lemoncheesecakejuice 1 year ago 32
@lemoncheesecakejuice Richey* >.<
HeatherHORRORz 1 year ago
@lemoncheesecakejuice what is the lyrics?! XD
rubseman 8 months ago
@lemoncheesecakejuice So depressing, yet so uplifting too, the mark of pure genius.
Videosofwolves 7 months ago
followed by Yes please by muse
arousal11 1 year ago
I cut myself to get pain out...god what a sad lyric,makes you think why did nobody realise just how low Richey had become ??
gordonw01 1 year ago
@gordonw01
Well yes, he did cut himself really bad, he carved ' 4 real' in his arm during an interview and signed himself into a mental hospital, so yes, he was low.
HeatherHORRORz 1 year ago
@HeatherHORRORz Yeah i know about the "4 real" self made wound.You wonder if the rest of the band ever talked to him about his self-harming and made him realise he didn't need to do it.
gordonw01 1 year ago
@gordonw01
I once saw a candid interview with Nicky in which he depicts going up to Richey's room in their hotel one night - they were touring America at the time, in 1994 I believe - to find him cutting at himself. Nicky said that he stayed and spoke to him, trying to reason with him, but Richey's desperate response when told to stop was, "but it makes me feel so good". I think Nicky realised then how serious it had gotten and how little he could do to prevent Richey from self-harming.
EctopIasm 11 months ago
@EctopIasm Wrong. Richey disappeared the night before their first ever American tour, a la Ian Curtis. But the quote from Wire is accurate I think.
1ofdiamonds 9 months ago
@1ofdiamonds
Wrong. The Manics were not heading to tour in America the day after Richey disappeared; James and Richey were heading to America without the rest of the band to promote 'The Holy Bible' album. The Manics as a band, with Richey, have played in America many times, hence all of the photographs of them in Disneyland, Florida. The Nicky quote is most definitely accurate. You can hear him say it for yourself in the Manics documentary 'From There To Here'. Thus, you are ameliorated.
EctopIasm 9 months ago
@EctopIasm Fair enough Slimer
1ofdiamonds 9 months ago
"Yes" by Manic Street Preachers followed by "Yes" by McAlmont and Butler makes an excellent double play.
cedricthecentaur 2 years ago
Followed by all of Tales From Topographic Oceans, by Yes?
jonahstevenson 2 years ago
Have to say it...YES!
cedricthecentaur 2 years ago
haha. and then Yes Please by the Happy Mondays, yes sir I can boogie etc etc etc
jonahstevenson 2 years ago
They first started in 1986 Mousegeek i dont know if the 1990-92 was a separate comment to the when they first came out comment you made
TheEighties8 2 years ago
aahhh, fair does mousegeek. x
bekcs 2 years ago
1. how could you destest all manics albums but this one? 2. how could you put this video under the "comedy" category??? .....dick....
bekcs 2 years ago
It was put under 'comedy' by mistake!
mousegeek 2 years ago
I didn't hate the music (I didn't listen to it) I hated the band. This was when the Manics first came out and they acted in a very arrogant way . It was pretty much what most people thought about them back in 1990-92.
Not bothered about being a dick.
mousegeek 2 years ago 23
They aere like that; but at least they have something intelligent (or humouress) to support even the most audacious claims
To quote Richey
"To come up to London and sell 16 million copies (of GT) in 6 months is fucking insane" (not accurate but ya get the picture)
BejnXander 2 years ago
@mousegeek
That's your opinion yes, but they've changed alot from then.
HeatherHORRORz 1 year ago
@mousegeek I don't think you're a dick, but the early Manics were arrrogant in a different way from other bands - they WERE better than the others, for a start! And they were fucking rock n roll, properly, not in the shit hackneyed way so many bands claim to be... Anyways, thanks for putting this up :)
baboon2525 9 months ago
@mousegeek I like arrogant bands, I would rather them be arrogant than false
StereOasis93 1 month ago
@bekcs someone call bekcs a WAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE
gsboss 1 year ago
@bekcs I don't like any other Manic albums other than this one. The band is incredibly hard too like, but god dam is the Holy Bible an amazing album
fat8622 7 months ago
@bekcs to be fair there aren't any MSP albums which even come close to this one
muschi2121 7 months ago 4
@bekcs dumb cunt's same dumb questions
molecularash 2 weeks ago
Listen to Roses In The Hospital (album version)
Lyrically, it's as good as THB
BejnXander 2 years ago
maybe so but if the music is not to my liking then i don't like it. there are no songs at all that i like where the melodies and music are shit but i like the lyrics so i like the song
fuckamericanidiot 2 years ago
do you like their work after THB though? I hate it.
Great song.
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Claudedfh 3 years ago