CellaWerra made some big mistakes here. He failed to spread the creep, which would have given his ground units the speed they needed. He had several opportunities to ambush terran forces on route, but he never researched burrow, and he committed his mutas at all the wrong times. Not the best game Cella has played.
On the other hand, this map really is made for terrans to rape zerg, and has been since SC1. Shattered Temple is much more balanced.
Terran should have mobilized right after he expanded and killed the speedlings. The zerg player had nothing for defenses. If he set rally point to the zerg base and pushed out he could have won early no prob
ah well, i dont care if HD splits the video in 10 minutes, he could split in 2-3 minutes that i would still watch. This guy deserves our views and if he's making money of that, then we mixed the good with the pleasant
this is so pathetic. love how HD is so pumped about reach the skys play, but he legit stood his thors in one spot, and they were impossible to kill. terran had 0 micro and still rapes on cella. terran easy mode
@IxamxDeceptionxX Yes true. However a quick scan will allow the tanks to utterly rape up-cliff. I've seen a lot of the better terrans I play who does that... Very annoying :)
whats with the recent zerg buffs as of October 14th??? as if zerg weren't powerful enough already :P i am still waiting for somebody to give me a good answer on how to beat muta bainling in tvz as a terran player.....
@sukarestu Yep this is correct. Its very hard for a ling/bling/muta army to do anything about that kind of an army. The unfortunate part is, if the zerg where to go the other direction of roach hydra infestor ultralisk, then a terran army of similar setup still would be good shape against that setup. Only the zerg would lose map control.
The red player REALLY played poorly. He should have brought 2 SCVs to fix the 2 thors, and should have made missile turrets and 1 or 2 bunkers from the start... He would have saved so many tanks and marines. Btw, i'm a Diamond. I think i could beat the Red Terran.
lol guess I still am a noob in english if I make a typo:P. Everybody else got what I said, but I guess even though I'm german I'm not immune to grammar/typo nazis. Anyway thanks for pointing it out, for people who give 2cents about that.
People need to use banelings better. You simply can't run them at tanks. Load them into overlords and drop them into the army, or research dig and use them as land mines.
zerg dont use drops often enough T_T baneling carpet drop on those tanks and rines would have dominated, he already had the units just needed the tech for it, but im sure theres too much shit to think about, im only a gold player, what do i know :P
Broodlords and Ultras are the only salvation for zerg if they want to survive a game like this. Unfortunately Zerg lacks artillery units and because all the units are so weak you have to constantly macro and sometimes don't have time to upgrade your hatchery to get access to those higher end and more cost efficient units.
Yes.. please don't cut the games in half when there is clearly no need to. Don't be a sellout HD. I will unsubscribe if you keep this up.. thumbs me up if you agree.
And yes, i know it's free, but so what? Everything on here is for free, and it's supposed to be a community. Not a money making machine for select users. Partnership seems to corrupt channels more than anything. I wish they would take it away, and move to a donation based system. At least we'll have ppl in it for <3, rather than $
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@ex0duzz Hopefully HD reads the comments and still cares about his viewers and credibility.. or at least, more than he does about making some $ by splitting perfectly good video's in two to abuse the shitty youtube partnership scheme.
@ex0duzz - First of all - there IS a reason for splitting videos like this in half. It's been explained way too many times already.
And you know what - even if they had no reason at all for splitting up the videos besides wanting to make some money - who the fuck are you to say he shouldn't? Seriously...is it that fucking hard to watch 2 videos? What is so wrong with that?
People seem to have some false sense of entitlement here and I don't get it at all.
@FFontanet I'm a user/fan with an opinion and i voiced it. Get over it. That's what comments are for. I'm not demanding anything, merely exercising my right. There's no false sense of entitlement. The false sense of entitlement is the people saying i should shut up and not say anything simply because it's a 'free service'.
And yeah, I don't watch every video or read every comment.. so what is the reason he has to split it like that when others(like Husky etc) do not?
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@RELIGIONmustDIE If he keeps it up, i will. And sure, he can block me if he wants. But i don't think he's petty like that. If he does, then i won't miss his channel either.
Just because something is free, doesn't mean they cannot be criticized. Keep riding his nuts though. I'm guessing you're also one of those guys who just rides blizzards nut when they took out LAN and didn't allow cross realm and everything else.. just shut up dude. No one's talking to you. You have no argument, hence ad hom
@ex0duzz Obviously what I said mostly went over your head except for the 'you are an idiot' part. Therefore it shows you must actually be an idiot and it's not ad hominem.
No go cry/fap to your Yaoi flicks you childish emo whore :) or i'll have to hug rape you.
@ex0duzz I'd have no problem if it was just criticism, criticize away.. What you did went beyond that into the childish "run the channel my way or i'll unsub.. who's with me thumbs up" attitude.
People like you should just fuck off. I'm sick of it. Go run your own channel dickhead!
@ex0duzz Why don't you devote your time and money on creating sc2 commentaries then and give to the community. You can run your channel however you like.
I'm 100% behind HD and the way he makes his videos. If you don't like it, you should leave. It takes allot of time and money to make sc2 videos (computer hardware/internet connection etc). You act like these videos rake in money but youtube partnership brings in a pittance compared with the time he spends.
Is this the real cellawerra? Theres no overlord coverage of the map, hardly any creep spread, and no overlord speed among other things that good zergs would get up to.
why dont zerg get burrow with banelings as much? it cost the same as 1 muta and if he just burrowed 5 banelings spread out quite well woulda been so effecient when the terran pushed out
At 2:50 he should have burrowed his banelings (many zerg players fail to research burrow) at the choke and just exploded them while they were underground to take out all the marines and soften up the tanks and thor.
I was in exactly the same position while playing as terran, but vs protoss. I was loosing and my minefield changed the tide of battle.
One more thing (besides broodlords) is that he could have gotten infestors. Burrow + spit out inf. terrans over the marines. Tanks will do the job.
zerg needed map control, terran was good not to unsiege for lings and banelings to flood in... and i dont see how zerg player could have gotten to broodlords, do remember he does'nt have infestation pit, does'nt have hive, does'nt have greater spire, teching up to greater spires alone would take too much time not to mention the build time for broodlords, i dont really see how broodlords could have come out from this game
I'm bronze, silver, or gold league and i know obviously how to play starcraft better then diamond, pro, and/or korean players and thusly I will go and assert my well informed opinion on several starcraft youtube videos on how the loser should have won.
do you guys think that burrowing a couple of roaches and sending them into the marine ball (in range of the siege tanks ie not too close to the actual siege tanks so they could shoot) and then unburrowing them so that the siege tanks would destroy the marines with splash damage would've helped? It might've destroyed all the marines and then magicbox on thors?
Zerg really need a better option to scout other than to sacrifice 100 minerals by sending in a overlord that may or may not even get the scout because it dies so damn fast to marines.
I think a lot of people dislike Reach after that Nuke, its too wierd how the Ghost ran away from the Observer back then, and how he decided to keep his units at that location to block off the path between the 2 bases in this game. A lot of people thinking Reach uses Map Hacks.
@ProtoDemn I am sorry but I can not agree with you on the "map hacks", because you can actually *SEE the Observer by lowering the view to ground pressing Ctrl+End/Delete, or something like that. By doing that you can see the blur moving object, which must be the Observe when the opponent is Protoss. I believe that is what ReachTheSky did since the first reaction of learning nuclear launch is "finding the Ghost".
@TheTeamTerran Yeah I knew about that trick, I was just saying OTHER people were saying he uses map hacks, I hope he wasnt. I also doubt theres such hacks for SC II already
wow, is it me or is cella letting his minerals get really high?....2000k and not doing much with it *sigh* That was painful to watch. But I guess I'm spoiled after watching the gsl finals.
Haha, I've noticed the same thing myself. I've become a lot more critical of the games I'm watching because of the GSL... sSKS, AFruidDealer and HopeTorture, probably the top players of each of the races in korea right now, if not the world.
@sephbox The are times in SC2 where you find yourself a bad situation and it starts to hit you psycologically as you try to figure a way out of it and you slip on your macro
@TheWyrdness Oh I absolutely agree. I know, keeping your money low is one of the hardest things especially when you're under pressure like that. I just didn't expect it from cella but I guess also I never payed attention to it before recognizing that some still manage to spend their minerals in situations like that.Some can make up for slipping macro it with superior micro, but that wasn't the case either.
@TheMoparDrvr I watched most of them them live streamed but the vods of all matches are on gomtv.net. Cost: 20 $ for all vods (+live stream but season1 is over anyway). You can watch the 1st vod of every game for free. Given the pure runtime it's worth buying,but if your not sure about spending money, I would wait for season 2. Some really great games and some not so great, esp round 64:). Hope that helped u out
@SimcaMigratoryBird idk speedlings since the nerf air units just because the counter is more difficult than mass something doesn't mean you need new units
Should gone infestor... free army + unit control can really turn around the game. It also looks Celewerra forgot that terran can't see over the cliff unless he scans or have Medivacs/Air units
@g0t91 yes, also broodlords in on the cliff and ultras from behind would've done the trick.. Come on, stop it! He did not own the tech for hydras, AND what would he use the hydras for if he had broken the contain? You're completely wrong in every aspect imo. Hydras would've been an awful choice no matter how I look at that situation. you know terran can just move away from the high ground cliffs or get vision of it right? scan==dead hydras. And there's no way he would have enough in time anyway.
@nejtilsvampe He had no economy to do it... So much gas required for that which Zerg really can't afford when he's under tank siege and his only weapon is mutas since zerglings and banelings get killed before they can even get to the terran army... If you go for tech you're dead on the spot.
@ButtshotJenkins that sounds like a terrible idea... and i wont just leave it at that, i will provide some explination :) 1) turtling means u give map control to the zerg which = death, 2) thors are not very good against muta especially if the zerg player uses the magic box trick, 3) hellions are also very vulnerable to bainlings and tend to melt, and they cannot shoot up to help out the thors. but i will try your plan out :)
Cellawerra should have gotten burrow, and use the banelings in burrow mode and unburrow at the moment the T-Ball went over the banelings... think that would keep him in the game...
@saberthelion Yea, id say he had time. and gas. Banelings obviously were not working, he stubbornly stayed with them. He could have most certainly switched to lategame tech.
@endususer I don't think he would have been able to get the tech, imagine if he cut units for tech, he was hard pressed enough to hold out even though he was macroing as hard as he could. I don't think he would have survived if he tried for late game tech.
@endususer how the hell he could get broodlords in this situation? don't tell me you are the kind of player that goes "hurr counter units of course!" having a bigger army > counters
broodlords are a high tech unit cost plenty of time to build and resources while cella had the economy he needed a greater spire (which cost time and resources) and needed corruptors to morph into broodlords which takes time and resources
if this was a late game situation that would've been correct
Cella was playing really really terribly. Look at his money and gas, more than 1k for a long time on 2 and half bases. He's a good player from what I've heard, but this game was just terrible.
Newb here but I gotta ask. Is there a reason Zerg players never seem to get Broodlords? To me it seems like they would help tremendously in a lot of situations, if nothing else they could be used as base defense.
Also, couldn't upgraded Roaches be handy to sneak up on tanks while burrowed? With the rapid regeneration it seems like a great harassment unit.
Again, I'm a complete newb so go easy on me here :)
The same reason Terran players don't get more Battlecruisers and Protoss players don't get more Carriers... Brood Lords are right at the top of the tech tree.
All the same, just a few B-Lords on the high ground would have broken the terrans in this game and the Zerg player seemed like he should have had the economy and the time to get some.
@treborrrrr I'm a noob too but I agree that zerg players should get burrow. I nearly never see it.
Of course T could have scanned and that's roaches byebye, but if he had managed to get a few and then taken T by suprise it could have been defestating. Especially since it would cause the tanks to either splash kill the marines or just not attack.
what, putting them in a giant ball outside the base and letting the AI autokill a microed two front push from the zerg just because terran is fucking gay?
fuck blizzard, they cant balance any of their games right
@nomercy8989 no, I mean artillery sort of like nukes, or something like that. think of that in the middle of a tvz battle like 6 nukes obliterating the terran army
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JanusBurkhardt351 1 month ago
CellaWerra made some big mistakes here. He failed to spread the creep, which would have given his ground units the speed they needed. He had several opportunities to ambush terran forces on route, but he never researched burrow, and he committed his mutas at all the wrong times. Not the best game Cella has played.
On the other hand, this map really is made for terrans to rape zerg, and has been since SC1. Shattered Temple is much more balanced.
Malkalypse777 10 months ago
HAHAH FUCKING KOREAN LOST! GO EAT MORE DOGS AND CATS MOTHER FUKER
LookHere3 11 months ago
lol was this a role playing commentary :D
DestroManiak 1 year ago
Terran should have mobilized right after he expanded and killed the speedlings. The zerg player had nothing for defenses. If he set rally point to the zerg base and pushed out he could have won early no prob
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LucioFitser 1 year ago
ah well, i dont care if HD splits the video in 10 minutes, he could split in 2-3 minutes that i would still watch. This guy deserves our views and if he's making money of that, then we mixed the good with the pleasant
Poneivanfa 1 year ago
this is so pathetic. love how HD is so pumped about reach the skys play, but he legit stood his thors in one spot, and they were impossible to kill. terran had 0 micro and still rapes on cella. terran easy mode
LoneAidenPryde 1 year ago
RIP Werra. What a scum bag leader. I hope Cella gets the hell out of there.
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LucioFitser 1 year ago
Wow. That attack at 7:20 was brutal.
ErikKiliam 1 year ago
very bad micro
alexsilkwood 1 year ago
All he needed was Infestors: Fungal growth the marines and mind control the thors.
IxamxDeceptionxX 1 year ago 2
@IxamxDeceptionxX Remember siege mode tanks outrange infestors. Its very hard to get close enough to do either of those two things.
PankBrun 1 year ago
@PankBrun hmm if he put a bunch of them on the cliffs it would have worked, i dont remember seeing reach use drop ships. to see the highground.
IxamxDeceptionxX 1 year ago
@IxamxDeceptionxX Yes true. However a quick scan will allow the tanks to utterly rape up-cliff. I've seen a lot of the better terrans I play who does that... Very annoying :)
PankBrun 1 year ago
whats with the recent zerg buffs as of October 14th??? as if zerg weren't powerful enough already :P i am still waiting for somebody to give me a good answer on how to beat muta bainling in tvz as a terran player.....
jimsterok1 1 year ago
@jimsterok1
I think this was your answer
Thor, siege and marines
Thor counters muta, marines support magic box and zergling surround
And siege.. well makes Banelings look stupid
sukarestu 1 year ago
@sukarestu Yep this is correct. Its very hard for a ling/bling/muta army to do anything about that kind of an army. The unfortunate part is, if the zerg where to go the other direction of roach hydra infestor ultralisk, then a terran army of similar setup still would be good shape against that setup. Only the zerg would lose map control.
PankBrun 1 year ago
@jimsterok1 thor helion
AdrianvsJak 1 year ago
NEVER win the zerg in zvt.
Vaalferatus 1 year ago
Cellawerra had lot of minerals early on. Like 1000-1500. :B
SiaBBo 1 year ago
The red player REALLY played poorly. He should have brought 2 SCVs to fix the 2 thors, and should have made missile turrets and 1 or 2 bunkers from the start... He would have saved so many tanks and marines. Btw, i'm a Diamond. I think i could beat the Red Terran.
DARTAGNANS170 1 year ago
infestors fungul growth would have helped cellawerra
SgtPepperLHCB1 1 year ago
lol guess I still am a noob in english if I make a typo:P. Everybody else got what I said, but I guess even though I'm german I'm not immune to grammar/typo nazis. Anyway thanks for pointing it out, for people who give 2cents about that.
sephbox 1 year ago
Those games are so bad after watching fruit dealer and those koreans pros in GSL lol
zkhoiz 1 year ago 4
Too much starcraft and not enough poon makes for lousy starcraft playing. The stress starts building up. Cella just needs to get laid.
phirephate 1 year ago
bad play by cella oO
at a certain point he had 1k gas 1k minerals and made a push, those minerals spent would've made the difference
BartAlbers 1 year ago
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Kahgro 1 year ago
my god, where are the brood lords???
cwchanben 1 year ago
reach for the skyler
PaulStevenGreen 1 year ago
People need to use banelings better. You simply can't run them at tanks. Load them into overlords and drop them into the army, or research dig and use them as land mines.
kmrobins72 1 year ago
@kmrobins72 So true.
Actually, I would argue that running ANYTHING into tanks is a horrible idea. Why allow them to be used to their full potential?
phirephate 1 year ago
Cellawerra not on top of hes game.
alexumad 1 year ago
Anyone else notice that HDstarcraft kinda sounds like Christopher Walken?
KennedyAG 1 year ago
@KennedyAG now that.......sounds...very... true..
snowblind1985 1 year ago
This Zerg sux
goldenstyx 1 year ago
pathetic zerg play.
pick off reinforcements from terran with mutas
do a baneling/roach drop
build spine crawlers on the cliff
plantiumrocky 1 year ago
STOP casting zvt the match up is soooo broken. I can't remember the last time I saw a Zerg beat a terran
971759 1 year ago
@971759 you should watch the GSL finals then
nolem150 1 year ago
um, that was the worst play i've seen from cellawerra, but i know hes alot better than that. i could have played better than that...
am0ni 1 year ago
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photoshopEndevour 1 year ago
stupid fucking shit...good game my ass -_- camping the choke with tanks is soooo sososo easy
Technoguru21 1 year ago
cellawerra = worst korean player ever
rlatkdghd 1 year ago
@rlatkdghd lol, i bet he could own u using only 10 apm
xGore220 1 year ago
i usually go for a 4th expo or an in-base hatch if I go mutaling, the lings take a lot of larvae.
plasmathunderdx 1 year ago
lol goddam, magic box is such a cheap exploit against thors that are suppose to be a counter. not to mention its so fking easy to execute.
IiILightRIiI 1 year ago
zerg dont use drops often enough T_T baneling carpet drop on those tanks and rines would have dominated, he already had the units just needed the tech for it, but im sure theres too much shit to think about, im only a gold player, what do i know :P
meegel 1 year ago
Broodlords and Ultras are the only salvation for zerg if they want to survive a game like this. Unfortunately Zerg lacks artillery units and because all the units are so weak you have to constantly macro and sometimes don't have time to upgrade your hatchery to get access to those higher end and more cost efficient units.
hochdaddy 1 year ago
@killforpie He says it's like 1.6
IvenSeppe 1 year ago
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IvenSeppe 1 year ago
@IvenSeppe It's the supply the little number in the top right that you increse by building Supply Depots, Pylons or Overlords.
killforpie 1 year ago
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Yes.. please don't cut the games in half when there is clearly no need to. Don't be a sellout HD. I will unsubscribe if you keep this up.. thumbs me up if you agree.
And yes, i know it's free, but so what? Everything on here is for free, and it's supposed to be a community. Not a money making machine for select users. Partnership seems to corrupt channels more than anything. I wish they would take it away, and move to a donation based system. At least we'll have ppl in it for <3, rather than $
ex0duzz 1 year ago
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@ex0duzz Hopefully HD reads the comments and still cares about his viewers and credibility.. or at least, more than he does about making some $ by splitting perfectly good video's in two to abuse the shitty youtube partnership scheme.
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz
rosklito 1 year ago
@ex0duzz - First of all - there IS a reason for splitting videos like this in half. It's been explained way too many times already.
And you know what - even if they had no reason at all for splitting up the videos besides wanting to make some money - who the fuck are you to say he shouldn't? Seriously...is it that fucking hard to watch 2 videos? What is so wrong with that?
People seem to have some false sense of entitlement here and I don't get it at all.
FFontanet 1 year ago
@FFontanet I'm a user/fan with an opinion and i voiced it. Get over it. That's what comments are for. I'm not demanding anything, merely exercising my right. There's no false sense of entitlement. The false sense of entitlement is the people saying i should shut up and not say anything simply because it's a 'free service'.
And yeah, I don't watch every video or read every comment.. so what is the reason he has to split it like that when others(like Husky etc) do not?
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz - It's much easier and faster to upload two 8-minute videos than to upload one 16-minute video.
Also - Husky gets this same exact criticism all the time and he addressed it in a video of his.
FFontanet 1 year ago
@ex0duzz Then unsub.. noone will miss you!
HD should just block you. Thats what I would do if I ran the channel. I'd do you that favour.
RELIGIONmustDIE 1 year ago
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@RELIGIONmustDIE If he keeps it up, i will. And sure, he can block me if he wants. But i don't think he's petty like that. If he does, then i won't miss his channel either.
Just because something is free, doesn't mean they cannot be criticized. Keep riding his nuts though. I'm guessing you're also one of those guys who just rides blizzards nut when they took out LAN and didn't allow cross realm and everything else.. just shut up dude. No one's talking to you. You have no argument, hence ad hom
ex0duzz 1 year ago
@ex0duzz Obviously what I said mostly went over your head except for the 'you are an idiot' part. Therefore it shows you must actually be an idiot and it's not ad hominem.
No go cry/fap to your Yaoi flicks you childish emo whore :) or i'll have to hug rape you.
RELIGIONmustDIE 1 year ago
@ex0duzz I'd have no problem if it was just criticism, criticize away.. What you did went beyond that into the childish "run the channel my way or i'll unsub.. who's with me thumbs up" attitude.
People like you should just fuck off. I'm sick of it. Go run your own channel dickhead!
RELIGIONmustDIE 1 year ago 3
@ex0duzz Why don't you devote your time and money on creating sc2 commentaries then and give to the community. You can run your channel however you like.
I'm 100% behind HD and the way he makes his videos. If you don't like it, you should leave. It takes allot of time and money to make sc2 videos (computer hardware/internet connection etc). You act like these videos rake in money but youtube partnership brings in a pittance compared with the time he spends.
You are an idiot.
RELIGIONmustDIE 1 year ago 47
that will teavh bastard zerg players going muta/baneling every single match
hollandJD 1 year ago
Is this the real cellawerra? Theres no overlord coverage of the map, hardly any creep spread, and no overlord speed among other things that good zergs would get up to.
poorbeggarman 1 year ago
I won a 4v4 using burrow taking out bout 2 bases
rayxu1996 1 year ago
Burrow :(
rayxu1996 1 year ago
why dont zerg get burrow with banelings as much? it cost the same as 1 muta and if he just burrowed 5 banelings spread out quite well woulda been so effecient when the terran pushed out
Gold13n13gg 1 year ago
At 2:50 he should have burrowed his banelings (many zerg players fail to research burrow) at the choke and just exploded them while they were underground to take out all the marines and soften up the tanks and thor.
I was in exactly the same position while playing as terran, but vs protoss. I was loosing and my minefield changed the tide of battle.
One more thing (besides broodlords) is that he could have gotten infestors. Burrow + spit out inf. terrans over the marines. Tanks will do the job.
anonimys123 1 year ago
@anonimys123 Yeah, assuming the terran player's dumb enough not to scan before engaging.
poorbeggarman 1 year ago
@poorbeggarman well, did you see the terran use scan on possible land mine fields? or get out a raven?
anonimys123 1 year ago
@anonimys123 go check out part 1, a clear scan before he moves in
poorbeggarman 1 year ago
@poorbeggarman I actually went back and checked. He scanned zerg's natural when he moved out of his base, to see what he will face against.
I am talking about making a minefield at terran's choke (just outside of his natural).
Anyways, this isn't an issues to argue about.
anonimys123 1 year ago
@anonimys123 Hmm, could probably pull that off if the terran doesn't have map control, and doesn't see the banelings burrowing.
poorbeggarman 1 year ago
Goes.to.show.why.those.damn.Tanks.got.Nerfed...no.way.they.should.be.that.untouchable.
ogruffryderz1 1 year ago
Why no baneling drop...
crion135 1 year ago
@crion135 marines would quickly chew through overlords before they could empty their cargo.
anonimys123 1 year ago
@crion135 Too many marines to shoot overlords down?
HawtStyle3000 1 year ago
needed baneling bombers!
spaceloner90 1 year ago
zerg needed map control, terran was good not to unsiege for lings and banelings to flood in... and i dont see how zerg player could have gotten to broodlords, do remember he does'nt have infestation pit, does'nt have hive, does'nt have greater spire, teching up to greater spires alone would take too much time not to mention the build time for broodlords, i dont really see how broodlords could have come out from this game
espedine91 1 year ago
I'm no expert, but burrowed banelings at the choke would have worked for the 2nd attack. After that, broodlords are required after massive scans. gg!
siggyboss 1 year ago
LOL at bronze player critiquing cellawerra,a korean pros play.no,that deserves a LMFAO actually.
gmanthebeast1 1 year ago
@stfun00belnub Awwww some one needs a wambulance :_(
TheeMacbeth 1 year ago
I'd take a spanking from Kerrigan...
SirNumu 1 year ago 107
@SirNumu Why do so many stupid people assume that being killed by a monster involves orgasm?
HuskyVerbatim 1 year ago
I'm bronze, silver, or gold league and i know obviously how to play starcraft better then diamond, pro, and/or korean players and thusly I will go and assert my well informed opinion on several starcraft youtube videos on how the loser should have won.
2012742 1 year ago
@2012742 lol,nice
gmanthebeast1 1 year ago
burrow isnt used very much
guyonwabbit 1 year ago
do you guys think that burrowing a couple of roaches and sending them into the marine ball (in range of the siege tanks ie not too close to the actual siege tanks so they could shoot) and then unburrowing them so that the siege tanks would destroy the marines with splash damage would've helped? It might've destroyed all the marines and then magicbox on thors?
IIXIXIXII 1 year ago
@IIXIXIXII no this isnt runescape
guyonwabbit 1 year ago
@guyonwabbit wtf?
IIXIXIXII 1 year ago
just burrow and pop up. thats all you gotta do.
rock283 1 year ago
baneling land mines ?
Z7SH0tD0wnZ7 1 year ago
Cella wasnt creative enough imo
13abie 1 year ago
Zerg really need a better option to scout other than to sacrifice 100 minerals by sending in a overlord that may or may not even get the scout because it dies so damn fast to marines.
Alaron251 1 year ago
@Alaron251
Whatever do you mean?
Play muta/ling .. seriously, you see everything all the time.
Remember, every scan = 300 minerals (could have been a mule)
Danceofmasks 1 year ago
Three words: bomb with overlords
upanishaderna 1 year ago
well, it's been still pre-patch... nowadays the banelings wouldn't have melted away that fast
ShineSCHEIN 1 year ago
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luckycandy101 1 year ago
I think a lot of people dislike Reach after that Nuke, its too wierd how the Ghost ran away from the Observer back then, and how he decided to keep his units at that location to block off the path between the 2 bases in this game. A lot of people thinking Reach uses Map Hacks.
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn I am sorry but I can not agree with you on the "map hacks", because you can actually *SEE the Observer by lowering the view to ground pressing Ctrl+End/Delete, or something like that. By doing that you can see the blur moving object, which must be the Observe when the opponent is Protoss. I believe that is what ReachTheSky did since the first reaction of learning nuclear launch is "finding the Ghost".
TheTeamTerran 1 year ago
@TheTeamTerran Yeah I knew about that trick, I was just saying OTHER people were saying he uses map hacks, I hope he wasnt. I also doubt theres such hacks for SC II already
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
wow, is it me or is cella letting his minerals get really high?....2000k and not doing much with it *sigh* That was painful to watch. But I guess I'm spoiled after watching the gsl finals.
sephbox 1 year ago 16
@sephbox
Haha, I've noticed the same thing myself. I've become a lot more critical of the games I'm watching because of the GSL... sSKS, AFruidDealer and HopeTorture, probably the top players of each of the races in korea right now, if not the world.
Jarnroth 1 year ago
@sephbox The are times in SC2 where you find yourself a bad situation and it starts to hit you psycologically as you try to figure a way out of it and you slip on your macro
TheWyrdness 1 year ago
@TheWyrdness Oh I absolutely agree. I know, keeping your money low is one of the hardest things especially when you're under pressure like that. I just didn't expect it from cella but I guess also I never payed attention to it before recognizing that some still manage to spend their minerals in situations like that.Some can make up for slipping macro it with superior micro, but that wasn't the case either.
sephbox 1 year ago
@sephbox where did you watch?? dont tell me the only time is live streams :(
TheMoparDrvr 1 year ago
@TheMoparDrvr I watched most of them them live streamed but the vods of all matches are on gomtv.net. Cost: 20 $ for all vods (+live stream but season1 is over anyway). You can watch the 1st vod of every game for free. Given the pure runtime it's worth buying,but if your not sure about spending money, I would wait for season 2. Some really great games and some not so great, esp round 64:). Hope that helped u out
sephbox 1 year ago
@sephbox
wooooow. 2 million minerals?
SickInVain 1 year ago
zerg needs a unit besides broodlords to deal with tanks
SimcaMigratoryBird 1 year ago
@SimcaMigratoryBird idk speedlings since the nerf air units just because the counter is more difficult than mass something doesn't mean you need new units
bender5836 1 year ago
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@SimcaMigratoryBird Dont worry The patch made it that tanks cant 1 shot a zergling with 1+ armor or 2 shot a hydra ............... -.-
luckycandy101 1 year ago
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@SimcaMigratoryBird Dont worry The patch made it that tanks cant 1 shot a zergling with 1+ armor or 2 shot a hydra ............... -.-
luckycandy101 1 year ago
@SimcaMigratoryBird Lots and lots and lots of beautiful speedlings <3 =D
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
Should gone infestor... free army + unit control can really turn around the game. It also looks Celewerra forgot that terran can't see over the cliff unless he scans or have Medivacs/Air units
EmperorKagato 1 year ago
Should gone infestor... free army + unit control can really turn around the game.
EmperorKagato 1 year ago
@g0t91 yes, also broodlords in on the cliff and ultras from behind would've done the trick.. Come on, stop it! He did not own the tech for hydras, AND what would he use the hydras for if he had broken the contain? You're completely wrong in every aspect imo. Hydras would've been an awful choice no matter how I look at that situation. you know terran can just move away from the high ground cliffs or get vision of it right? scan==dead hydras. And there's no way he would have enough in time anyway.
nejtilsvampe 1 year ago
@nejtilsvampe He had no economy to do it... So much gas required for that which Zerg really can't afford when he's under tank siege and his only weapon is mutas since zerglings and banelings get killed before they can even get to the terran army... If you go for tech you're dead on the spot.
crazyman6 1 year ago
@crazyman6 lol are you kidding?? I was being sarcastic to prove a point, read the original comments.
nejtilsvampe 1 year ago
nice, he cut the artery. no chances to survive for the swarm!
WiggedSC2 1 year ago
i think muta baneling is op.... but i only think that because i dont know how to beat it , i loss every game against zerg that do that :(
jimsterok1 1 year ago
@jimsterok1 Thor/hellion and turtle in. Thats if your a terran player.
ButtshotJenkins 1 year ago
@ButtshotJenkins that sounds like a terrible idea... and i wont just leave it at that, i will provide some explination :) 1) turtling means u give map control to the zerg which = death, 2) thors are not very good against muta especially if the zerg player uses the magic box trick, 3) hellions are also very vulnerable to bainlings and tend to melt, and they cannot shoot up to help out the thors. but i will try your plan out :)
jimsterok1 1 year ago
Cellawerra should have gotten burrow, and use the banelings in burrow mode and unburrow at the moment the T-Ball went over the banelings... think that would keep him in the game...
gr4ndhustle 1 year ago
2 infestors would have prevented the camping outside the zerg base.
ZombieKingKong 1 year ago
Stop spoiling the campaign and other match results in your casts.
Shervin0o 1 year ago
lol, I hit my F10 key after watching this match.
Wugdor 1 year ago
HDs favorite word today: Futile.
Runner up: Fear.
=_=
c3nty2 1 year ago
@c3nty2 and Cerebrate.
c3nty2 1 year ago
terrans are sooo overpowerd!
InvaderTakko 1 year ago
It's painfull watching Zerg players who forget the effectiveness of BROODLORDS in situations like this
endususer 1 year ago
@endususer As if he had the time to tech up to hive, upgrade to greater spire, get devourers and finally turn those into broodlords.
saberthelion 1 year ago
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endususer 1 year ago
@saberthelion Yea, id say he had time. and gas. Banelings obviously were not working, he stubbornly stayed with them. He could have most certainly switched to lategame tech.
endususer 1 year ago
@endususer I don't think he would have been able to get the tech, imagine if he cut units for tech, he was hard pressed enough to hold out even though he was macroing as hard as he could. I don't think he would have survived if he tried for late game tech.
Hughmanx 1 year ago
@endususer whats a broodlord
guyonwabbit 1 year ago
@endususer how the hell he could get broodlords in this situation? don't tell me you are the kind of player that goes "hurr counter units of course!" having a bigger army > counters
broodlords are a high tech unit cost plenty of time to build and resources while cella had the economy he needed a greater spire (which cost time and resources) and needed corruptors to morph into broodlords which takes time and resources
if this was a late game situation that would've been correct
misanthropiclusion 1 year ago
HD's nerd level was over 9000 during this cast...
razrx33 1 year ago
Cella was playing really really terribly. Look at his money and gas, more than 1k for a long time on 2 and half bases. He's a good player from what I've heard, but this game was just terrible.
And HD what's with the lore in those casts :D?
Ksaiper 1 year ago
@Ksaiper That's not so unforgiving for a Zerg, they often run out of larvas
drrednek 1 year ago
yea prepatched so tanks are stronger probably with patch 1.1.1 i would been different
GMmOnsOOn 1 year ago
is this the CellaWeRRa in the GSL?
E23443 1 year ago
the zerg played like a beginner
hellmor 1 year ago
is "maynard" even a real word? is that even how you spell it?
tinsleyjamaal 1 year ago
Newb here but I gotta ask. Is there a reason Zerg players never seem to get Broodlords? To me it seems like they would help tremendously in a lot of situations, if nothing else they could be used as base defense.
Also, couldn't upgraded Roaches be handy to sneak up on tanks while burrowed? With the rapid regeneration it seems like a great harassment unit.
Again, I'm a complete newb so go easy on me here :)
treborrrrr 1 year ago
@treborrrrr
The same reason Terran players don't get more Battlecruisers and Protoss players don't get more Carriers... Brood Lords are right at the top of the tech tree.
All the same, just a few B-Lords on the high ground would have broken the terrans in this game and the Zerg player seemed like he should have had the economy and the time to get some.
Eron2828 1 year ago
@treborrrrr I'm a noob too but I agree that zerg players should get burrow. I nearly never see it.
Of course T could have scanned and that's roaches byebye, but if he had managed to get a few and then taken T by suprise it could have been defestating. Especially since it would cause the tanks to either splash kill the marines or just not attack.
DreIs1337 1 year ago
should really have gotten ovie drops that would have cut it since all the marines were stuck in that one corner between the thors and the tanks
Bastilolxd 1 year ago
16 MINUTE GAME, AND YOU STILL ARE SO GREEDY TO MAKE IT 2PARTS? HD WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!
MrTheObvious 1 year ago
@MrTheObvious Isn't there a 15 minute limit unless you have some special account?
treborrrrr 1 year ago
@treborrrrr No. HD is a Youtube partner. He can have videos for 2h if he wanted.
MrTheObvious 1 year ago
What is "magic box"?
hartimer 1 year ago
@hartimer moving the mutas over the thor and clicking "stop" so they don't stack and get splash damaged
Nyocurio 1 year ago
finally a tvz where the terran didnt mmm spam
st33lsimy 1 year ago
Tanks nerfed. Not 'needed.'
Qriator 1 year ago
Nerfed - not needed. Darn autocorrect. Nerfed.
Qriator 1 year ago
This was pre patch 1.1. The tanks have been needed to allow zerg to rush with light more effectively.
Qriator 1 year ago
this happens when zerg get to eco greedy in the beginning
bloxxberg 1 year ago 2
nice game
DisasterEqualPeace 1 year ago
. . . are you sure this is the real CellaWeRRa?
DontCare25 1 year ago
im so FUCKING sick of terran
"the terran commander, using his forces wisely"
what, putting them in a giant ball outside the base and letting the AI autokill a microed two front push from the zerg just because terran is fucking gay?
fuck blizzard, they cant balance any of their games right
MrVerox 1 year ago
good play by the terran zerk should of done more harras to the terrens base eith those mutas and pick of suv's to force the terran back to his main
xxbalthier 1 year ago
Marines are OP. at least make them 75 minerals!!
Pinoylegend707 1 year ago
Mutas > Terran.
lejonzx 1 year ago
I wish zerg had artillery...
Proxyon16 1 year ago 7
@Proxyon16 broodlords?
nomercy8989 1 year ago
@nomercy8989 no, I mean artillery sort of like nukes, or something like that. think of that in the middle of a tvz battle like 6 nukes obliterating the terran army
Proxyon16 1 year ago
@Proxyon16 broodlords, too bad they take forever compared to terran AA
sinborn41214 1 year ago
cen·trif·u·gal
[sen-***trif***-yuh-guhl, -uh-guhl]
MrPeak111 1 year ago
its futile.
zellfalcon31 1 year ago
omg marauders op....................... oh wait
ragestarfish 1 year ago