pert is great but lars is just very fast and knows to play but talking about solos Lars sucks with out dought, chek out the John Bonham's solo in Moby Dick, the original one wich is 20 minutes...
idk i really liked lars's solo but he is like my biggest idol so idk bonham is amazing but i also love nicko mcbrain from iron maiden and chad smith and taylor hawkins are also great....but daniel is a beast!
Jerome flood 2! daniel adair is a total rock and roll groove drummer, while chad smith is also a rock and roll groove drummer but Daniel is to me more creative then chads solo's, jerome is a good (((drummer))), if you know what i mean
Daniel isn't great. He is average. At best. there is NOTHING special about his playing. He plays the same played out beat in all his solo's. There are no polyrythms, just single stroke rolls and a lot of double bass. Please don't look up to him he is so wack. please educate yourself on great drumming.
wow. just cause he's not a robot like neil peart doesn't make him uncreative. Dude is a great drummer. Not to mention that creativity isn't exactly the drummer's job really. it's to keep the beat. well.. he does a great job of that. even you yourself noticed that.
Did you just say a drummer's job isn't to be creative? If I could I would slap you in the face right now. That is an insult to all the great drummers who have made great drum beats. You think a drummer is supposed to just sit there and keep time while the guitar goes nuts? Let me educate you a bit. If you want to be a mediocre drummer, like Daniel Adair, just keep the beat. If you want to be great, think outside the box. Listen to Danny Carey's beat on Lateralus, that is greatness.
Educate me? Dude, I've been playing drums, and guitar, and bass since I was four. You're not telling me anything. Personally, I never cared for Danny Carey, or Tool for that matter. Mediocre? Wow, better to be mediocre than over rated. Sure, Daniel isn't doing anything new, but he's still a great drummer. No, I don't think the drummer shouldn't be creative, but a solid beat will always outmatch the disfigured beats of some "great" drummers. oh, how many records have you sold by the way???
I've sold my share of records back with my last band. Nickleback can sell gajillions of records, that still won't make them talented. Maybe you don't see music the way I do. I see it as a way to express myself, I don't conform, nor do I like drummers that conform, to "keeping the beat." Whatever your personal feelings about Danny Carey, you cannot call him overrated. The creativity in his beats are second to none, and they aren't disfigured, they go perfectly with the music.
If you watch all three videos of this "Daniel Adair great drum solo" you would hear him play the same played out beat in all of them. I've actually gone to a lot of his videos to try and see if he has anything good, and in EVERY SINGLE ONE he plays the same friggin crap. A lot of bass to impress those who don't know better, a lot of triplets (which is the best thing he does in anything), and that same played out beat, or slight variations of the same played out beat.
So don't give me anymore of this bullshit about Daniel being a great drummer, because I've listened to him enough and I can't take it anymore. I think I have to go practice my rudiments because I feel like I've become a worse drummer for listening to his crap for as long as I have. I need to go watch some Carter Beauford vids now, to hopefully salvage a bit of my my dignity as a musician.
You want to hear what Daniel Adair would sound like if he were any good? Check out Gavin Harrison, he plays like Daniel Adair, only better. A lot better.
So you have the right to say Daniel is a bad drummer, but I can't say that Carey is over-rated. It's degrading to say that Carey is better than everyone else because he is more creative. People who have tunnel vision like that are just idiots. I love creative drummers, however, Daniel is a great drummer. In my opinion, which I have a right to. In my opinion, Carey is highly overrated because he's creative. I hate his style, and his beats. I think hes compensating for his lack of talent.
Let me tell you who has tunnel vision. I'm not narrow-minded because I don't like Daniel Adair, I know great drumming when I hear it, and he is not great. Period. I like a lot of drummers, a lot of talented drummers, just not him. You are the one who is narrow-minded because you know Carey is lightyears better than Adair, yet for whatever reason, you think he's not talented. If you've really been drumming since age 4 you should know how talented Carey is to pull off the beats he creates.
Read every one of comments, have I EVER said Danny Carey is better than EVERYONE? No. I said he's better than Daniel Adair, which he is, because he's creative. Notice I also mentioned that I like Carter Beauford and Gavin Harrison. You make no damn sense, man, how can being creative compensate for a lack of talent? You have to be talented to be creative! I mean, have you ever listened to Tool? You CANNOT listen to any Tool song and tell me Danny Carey is not talented. You can't.
My man, Daniel Adair is nothing special. Nothing. The best thing in his solos are the triplets, other than that, his playing is mediocre. Not good enough to be called professional, because I know a lot of drummers who struggle to make a living and play circles around him. There is no groove in his playing. It's mostly a lot of random double bass with a simple beat being played with the hands, and to people who don't know better, it seems out of this world, but to another drummer, it's not.
'Not good enough to be called professional' Now that is taking the piss. You do sound like you know what you're talking about but come on! I have just started playing the drums, a few weeks ago, so i aren't as knowledgable as yourself yet but Daniel Adair inspired me to start playing.
Since you've just started playing drums, I'm going to tell you about drummers you should really look up to. If you like a lot of groove, check out Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews Band, also Dennis Chambers, Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Smith, and legends like John Bonham, Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, and Ginger Baker. If you like a technical drummer, check out Neil Peart, Gavin Harrison, Bobby Jarzombek, and Mike Portnoy. If you want a drummer with everything, check out Danny Carey.
I also recomend you take music classes somewhere. Knowing how to read music will allow you to do a more broad range of music. Learn about drumming techniques and how to incorporate different styles into your music. For the love of God, don't just listen to Daniel Adair.
Lets see you do it... Million bucks says hes faster with one hand than you are with two. Get off your high horse and give the man some respect. Hes amazingly fast and knowledgeable about his equipment. Dont try and take anything away from his talent by sayin hes not good enough to be called professional. Hes with one of the most successful bands there are and thats not his first. His record speaks loud enough on its own, let alone his playing ability, which is beyond "professional"
So you're one of theose guys that thinks money equals ability. What you people don't realize is that the music biz is all about luck. There are very talented people that are not famous because they never played the right show, or never met the right people. Just because someone is the richest drummer in the world doesn't make him the best; case in point: this guy and Travis Barker. They are the two richest drummers in the world, but they are at the bottome of the barrell in the drum world.
I say what I do because everything he does is basic and rudimentary. There is nothing special in his playing. He's never done a polyhythm in his life, never subdivided the pulse by anything other than two and three, never played anything better than any small bar drummer has. If you knew other drummers, you would realize this; if you knew anything about drumming, you would realize this.
And i suppose your some music master thats seen and done it all right? As a matter of fact i grew up on music and have played several instruments all my life, one of which includes drums. One of my best friends happens to be the number one drummer in the state actually and hes not quite on the same par. Daniel takes the pulse and throws it out the window several times in his solos which is just what a fantastic drummer should and can do. He can go off the beaten path and still make music.
I'm no master, but I know enough. I've been playing drums and percussion for my entire life. I don't play any other instruments, I focus on the drums, because I want to master them.
He does take the pulse and throw it out the window, but not in a good way. Even in his solos he only plays in 4/4, and when he's not, he's off on some tangent with no direction.
Im not sayin that he may have been in the right place at the right time to get where he is today, but he obviously deserves to be as well respected as he is, even if you disagree. He may not be the absolute best drummer in the world, but hes sure at the top of the catch, not the bottom of the barrell. You may have something against him due to you being a struggling musician or a friend of yours not makin it past the bar scene, but its not his fault hes as talented as he is.
I have no hate in my heart for any musician that has made a name for himself. My problem isn't with him, it's with you, and people like you that over-praise him for his abilities. I could name a hundred drummers off the top of my head that play with more adeptness, more uniqeness, more fluidity, more musicality, and more technicality than Daniel Adair. If you want me to go down that long road, I could.
Your problem is obviously with him and your thinking that hes not worthy of the success he has. You opinion is that he isnt any good cuz he doesnt play what you wanna hear but the fact is that hes very talented and apt and unique and worthy of all the praise hes given. Hes a great drummer and a very smart musician. Give him his dues. Maybe not idol him, but just recognize that he is very good, even if not your style. I happen to HATE travis barker and his style but doesnt mean hes not good
I don't care how rich he is, or how successful his band is, that has nothing to do with how good HE is, that deals with record sales. I'm only talking about his talent as a musician, irrespective of how much money he racks in. You have to get this idea out of your mind that money equals talent. One hard look at today's music industry would tell you that.
It's not that I don't like his style, I'm just saying he's not that good. I never said he sucks, but he's nothing special, that's it.
You keep throwing money into it and never have i said that hes good because hes rich. Thats not at all what i said or meant so no more playin that card. Hes good because hes got talent and talent equals money, not the other way around like youve repeatedly stated that i claim. How do you say hes not that good? Im baffled at why youre so against him being good. I mean, youve stated lots of reasons, all of which myself and the majority of people who know anything about music disagree with...
You said success, that means he's doing well for himself, which means he's rich, that's why I say that, but we can move on from that. Now, once again, I never said he wasn't good, I said he's nothing special. Anybody can see he's a competent drummer, but there are thousands of guys out there like that. He only sticks to the basics, he doesn't challenge himself musically, that's why he's no better than the small bar drummer, because they can do the same things; hold a downbeat.
Youre obviously young. Success is money? Id say success means playing for a huge band all over the world and being one of the best at what he does. The money is a side effect of his success. Somewhere about 45 sec into the video the downbeat is gone. Not anywhere to be found. GONE. He loses the downbeat and plays a real solo. No guidelines. Then its back, then its gone, then its back and so on. Thats what a person wants to see from a drummer and thats exactly what you get from him. Take lessons
The best at what he does? How many drummers do you know? Do you base your life on one instrument like I do? Do you know who Vinnie Colaiuta is? Who Danny Carey is? Who Steve Gadd, Dennis Chambers, Carter Beauford, Buddy Rich, Steve Jordan, Bernard Purdie, Max Roach, Elvin Jones are? That's who I take lessons from, not this guy. I take my musical cues from masters. I listen to music all day, every day. I constantly am searching for new music to help influence my playing.
You can list drummers all day that are very good at what they do and very successful doing it. Add this one to your list cuz its pretty obvious hes here to stay judging by the success hes had, is having, and will continue to have despite your sour attitude. Learn what you like from who you like but remember that hes the one makin a pantload of money playin all over the world havin fun. What do you do? Play in your basement while you watch somebody you wish to be? I know whos side ill stay on...
Aha, see, you keep bringing up his success. I thought we were past this. You still think success equals talent? Do you really want me to name successful bands with piss-poor musicians, because I could, and that list is LOOOONG, my friend. For a guy who owns his own music business, you should know talent is hardly the determining factor in a band's success. Ever heard of a talented band called Dean Lickyer? Yeah, didn't think so.
Define "master" for me. Again, your opinion is that hes no good. Seems to me that the vast majority, including myself, seems to believe otherwise. The biggest reason im a fan of nickelback is because ALL of its members are very talented musicians. As a matter of fact id say they may be arguably one of the most talented bands out there. I understand that there are people who dont deserve the success they have, but i firmly believe nickelback does, right down to the drummer
Okay, a master would be someone who is capable of doing whatever they want on a drumset. What that means is that they have to have great limb independence. Besides that, you take into account their originality, their creativity. Does the drummer bring anything new to the table? Another aspect, is musicality. Does the drummer add the appropriate touches to the song, such as add in a certain cymbol shot where you wouldn't expect one, or a certain syncopation that stands out?
Why do keep putting words in my mouth? I never said he's not good, I said he's nothing special. I'm not saying he can't make a beat, because he can, but so can every other drummer out there. Your argument is that he's one of the best, mine is that he's not. Now stop misinterpreting my argument.
Now, as to Nickelback being of the most talented bands out there, that is another subject altogether. But at least now I see why you defend Mr. Adair so vehemently: you're a big Nickelback fan.
What else do you want me to tell you? I've told you why he's nothing special, I've defined what a master is, would you like examples of master drumming? For a great example of limb independence, listen to "St. Augustine in Hell" by Sting, off the album "Ten Summoner's Tales.". The session drummer Sting hired is Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the most revered studio drummers ever, and you'll see why when you hear the 7/8 over 4/4 polyrhythm he created. For a great example of technicality, look up...
...Terry Bozzio playing "The Black Page," a piece composed by Frank Zappa, and notorious for its technical difficulty. If you want a master example of originality, look up a song called "Rosetta Stoned" by Tool. In the middle of the song, Danny Carey performs a beautiful polyrhythm in which he plays a Swiss Triplet with his hands along the toms and snare, steady quater notes with his leftt foot on the hi-hat, and a 5/4 rhythm with his right foot on the bass. For a master example of...
...musicality, listen to the song "The Sound of Muzak" by Porcupine Tree. Gavin Harrison is phenominal. The drum part he composed for that song is nothing short of masterful, and so beautiful. He plays the hi-hat in eigth notes using the moeller technique, so that only the quarter notes are accented, while playing a 7/8 polyrhythm on the bass that accents in the same places as the bass, and then adds ghost notes on the snare that are barely audible, while adding other multiple accents.
Ahhh... I get it now. You like a drummer that plays some non-traditional off the wall beat. That explains why you dislike Daniel so much. He plays a very true beat that everyone can listen to and follow, not get lost in the first 15 sec. As a music major i can appreciate a person that likes a different beat, but that doesnt make the traditional ones any less amazing. I dont believe that Daniel couldnt play these beats if he desired to do so, but thats not the music he makes.
Those were just examples of masterful drumming. There's a difference, because drum parts like that are what separate the masters from Daniel and everybody else. If you were to call Daniel one of the best, you'd have to call every other drummer one of the best, because every drummer in the world can easily create a beat like the ones he does. That's my point. If Daniel wants to be considere one of the best, he has to do something to show it.
I dont mean to be disrespectful to a fellow musician but you need to realize that your list of examples of the people you think are the greatest in the world is YOUR list. Of that list i happen to not be at all impressed with most of them. They can drum, sure, but i dont like them. However, you dont see me tryin to convince you that theyre just some drummer. You like them and i respect that. Return the respect for the rest of us who are impressed with Daniel, even if you arent
If you want me to praise a drummer as being great, he has to prove it. I don't care how successful the band is, that is a measure of the whole, not the parts. On his own, Daniel is nothing special, but in good ol' boy bands like Three Doors Down and Nickelbands, he fits in perfectly.
That's because they aren't just some drummers. Just some drummers can't do the things they can, that's what makes them great, get it? Regardless of what I like or what you like, those drummers I listed are great drummers, because of reasons I have already listed.
You can have different tastes, but that's a different argument. What I'm talking about is skill. I hate the way Terry Bozzio plays, but I acknowledge that he is a great drummer because of what he's capable of.
Notice that every example you gave was because it carried an off beat rhythm such as 5/4 or 7/8. If thats what youre tryin to get at i understand. But you cant expect him to be playin somethin like that given his current band. Could he? I think so. He has the ability to learn anything because hes very good. Should he be playin somethin along the lines of your taste? No. Doesnt make him any less of a master, just in another genre.
It's not about my taste, it's about doing something, anything, to prove he's one of the best, to stand out, to prove he deserves to be mentioned along the names of the greatest virtuosos. My point: what has he done for him to be called one of the best? If he were so great he'd do something great, even in Nickelback. But he hasn't. Everything he does is the same old run-of-the-mill drum beats that every other regular rock drummer does. It's all the same formulaic crap, you don't see that?
You can argue till your blue that hes just another average drummer, but i highly doubt that your plethera of examples of drummers in a completely different genre are going to change the opinion of the rest of the world. You have a right to your opinion and im happy for you to be so sure of what you like, but dont try and place your thoughts on everyone who likes what he does. Again, hes the one with a huge career, not you...
I personally think hes the best rock drummer there is. His playing is subtly different than the rest and much more entertaining to listen to. Its not your style as i can see from your list of your favorite drummers. Fair enough. If you dont believe that his speed, skill, knowledge, and style make him great thats up to you. Most people however do believe hes great. At the very very least hes much better than most drummers that play his genre. You need to compare apples to apples not to oranges
What does he do that's different than any other rock drummer? At least give me some examples, as I have given you. And for the last frigging time, I don't give a damn what style of music it is, I listen to all kinds of music.
His solos are all pretty much the same one as you can see. I agree. But his music is not at all the same. He uses much more kick drum (which happens to be my favorite) such as the beginning of Follow You Home or Animals or the bridge on SEX. He throws in nice off beat accents with the cymbals in Never Again. It gives it that little something extra that most drummers will use sometimes but not often like Daniel. I like his fills as well. Not too busy but not boring. Effective but not overpowering
Ah, you like the kick drum, that's why you don't fancy the guys I mentioned, because they use enough kick drum, eh? Anyways, that just shows your ignorance about drumming. You have to respect all apsects of it, especially if you're trying to argue objectively who is great/the best. Regardless, Follow You Home and Animals have their cool kick drum moments, at the beginning, but other than that, it's just regular drumming. And Adair didn't play drums for Never Again, that was when they had ...
I did know that actually. And if youd like to add to that when animals came out it wasnt adair either. However it is now and i prefer him ten fold over ryan. Never did anyone say he was the best in the world. Dont try and play that i have an ignorance about drumming. That happens to be my favorite but by no means does the rest of the set not count. You asked why hes different and i gave you 3 solid examples. Now youre going to try and argue those too?? Come on man...
Well, being that two of those three examples aren't even Daniel, you just foiled your own argument that he is different because I didn't know it was two different drummers until I looked it up.
What does the genre have to do with it? If a drummer is great, he's great, no matter what. The drummers I listed have played in all kinds of genres, that has nothing to do with it.
Do you not believe that he couldnt play like the people you list? How can you know what his limits are? Hes always been in a rock band and has always played as such. That doesnt mean hes incapable of playing something completely different. It just means you havent heard it. Nor should you with him in the situation hes in. Hes doing just exactly what he should be and doing it very well.
I'm not saying he can't, but he HASN'T; that's the point. Up til now, all he's done is simple rock beats. Hurray for him, I can do them, too, and so can every drummer I know, does that mean we all deserve to be respected as the best? If he really were so great, don't you think at SOME point he would have shown it? At least once? No, you don't agree? You think he only plays like that because he has to?
If he CAN then hes the same caliber as the ones you call great. He does what he should. He doesnt need to be playin some off beat that doesnt match the genre of the band. Solo or not thats not what he should be doin. I would imagine he plays what he likes best. If he wanted to play some other type of music im sure he would, but this is what he loves and wants to play. Can ya blame a guy for playing what he loves?
If youre going to continue and try and counter every point i make or example i give thats fine. Ill stop wasting your time. Its obvious that your 21 years of wisdom is greater than anyone elses. You should have your masters in drumming by now am i right? Maybe someday you can be so kind as to enlighten the rest of the world as to what really makes a great drummer... Good luck in your efforts to be better every day. As i said, ill always support a fellow musician whether our opinions agree or not
I am 21, but I've been drumming for almost that long, so I know what I'm talking about. You seem to think I don't support Daniel, or you, or anybody else. I do, the only thing I'm saying is that he is not one of the best. Does that make me the bad guy? Is it me against the world when I say Daniel Adair is not that great? Who really is the close-minded one here?
Whats close-minded is that you wont even entertain the idea that hes good no matter what scale you use. Speed, skill, knowledge, success, ability, money.... Doesnt matter which aspect you look at youll argue them all to be incorrect. Adair makes Ryan look boring. Its obvious that Adair is the better drummer there. Ryan is your typical "rock band" drummer. Pretty straight forward and blah. Adair is not
Yeah, whatever dude. They played the same on the records, so everything you've said about him being different has gone down the toilet. And actually, I preferred Ryan Vikedal's drumming, especially in "How You Remind Me." I dug that song, back in the day.
Realize that Chad Kroeger wrote all of those songs. HE put the drum parts together, not the drummer. Its only in the live performances that you can see the differences in the two. Of course the recorded tracks are gonna sound the same genious. Thats how they were written! Like i said, see em both live in concert and then tell me you cant tell a difference. If ya cant then your no where near the drum expert you say you are...
Of course you had somethin to say about that didnt ya. The drum parts are the same from drummer to drummer. The basic drum lines in the songs. The common denominator there is the guy who writes their songs genious... Its a known fact that Chad writes most everything they play and presents the new song to the rest of the band at soundcheck. Its hard to believe that both Daniel and Ryan wanted the same format every time, which points again to Chad. Im sure hes talented enough to write a drum part
Of course I had something to say. If a drummer can't find his own voice in a song, then what's the point? Might as well use a drumming machine. And there's a difference between a guy who writes songs, as in lyrics and a guitar riff, and a guy who writes out songs for every member in his band. If the latter is the case, it might as well be called the Chad Kroeger Band. Is he some virtuoso like Frank Zappa that writes out every part for every instrument? Can't the drummer make his own beat?
Youre so sure that youre just the most knowledgable person there is about some drums and how to play em that its beyond confidence and right onto arrogance. Amazing that a simple comment about him being a good drummer led to such a nice long conversation full of useless examples and big words trying to insult and confuse the person that challenges your statement. And now youre in it to defend yourself no matter what the topic, right or wrong.
If you think that the entire conversation was about me saying how much he sucked and is not good, you haven't been paying attention. All I've done is say he's not one of the best, and thoroughly explained why. I've already said he's a good drummer, but that's it. How many more times must I repeat that? And I spoke in terms of music theory, sorry if some of the words were too big.
And now that weve moved to a completely different member who could very well be the most talented person in the band, you STILL try and argue a point you apparently know nothing about. I dont doubt youre probably fairly knowledgable about a drumset, but your arrogance about it does you no good. I got your point long ago, but you refused to consider the possibility that he IS good and COULD play the same music youd like to see and rather just stick to the option where hes nothing above good.
Dude, you need to pay attention. I hate repeating myself, especially when what I've said is written down. Once again, I didn't say he couldn't play something like the stuff I mentioned; I said he HASN"T. So until he does, you can speculate all you want, but you have nothing to back it up. And as far as Kroeger goes, I don't doubt he's the most talented guy in the band. I'm sure he is.
This will be the last of me trying to open your mind to any possibility other than your own theory about Daniel Adair. Thankfully im the one who likes his playing and will continue to support him and enjoy listening to his music. You keep on with your 7/8 and other off beat rhythms and do your best to become a well rounded master of your life long instrument. Im sure someday youll laugh at how much more talented and versatile you are than some little rock drummer like him
I see you have this deep-set self-righteousness about that keeps you from reading what I write correctly. You're such a mega-fan of this guy you can't even see what I write, you see what you want. How do I know you're a mega-fan? Because all I've said is he's not one of the best, and you take that as blasphemy. I love music. If somebody wants to play good ol' boy rock and roll, let them. My point throughout this is that just because of that, you can't call him the best.
Ive come to understand that trying to explain anything to you is a waste of time and effort so no, i wont put any further effort into explanations. If theres some other more apparent reason for your arrogance (maybe your parents have lots of money and you went to some fancy private school or you were a star ball player or something of that sort) id gladly comment on that instead, but all youve given me to understand why youre so much smarter than everyone else is age. I was there once too
OK, I've been playing percussion since I was 5. My father took me as a child to a Peruvian restaurant, and there was live band playing, in the center a man was sitting on a box and slapping his hands upon it, I asked my dad what that thing was, and he said a 'cajon,' which is what the instrument is called. Now, hispanic music is largely based on the rhythm section, in fact, it's the foundation of it; and when I saw that man playing the cajon, I fell in love with the rhythm aspect of music...
and since I've played every kind of percussive device, and on the Christmas of my 13th birthday, I got my first drumset. Since then I've made my life revolve around music. Now you know enough about me.
There is no arrogance to what I'm saying, not one bit. I love music of all sorts, hard or simple, strange or familiar. I understand that this man loves playing straight up rock and roll. My only point is that as far as I have seen of his playing, he is not one of the more remarkable players I've ever heard. That's it. I'm not trying to denounce him, his band, or his style, I'm just objectively analysing his level of playing, based on factors which I've already stated.
And also, you keep dismissing his lack of exceptionality by saying he plays ROCK. Well John Bonham played ROCK, too, but the man played it friggin great. Keith Moon played ROCK, so did Ginger Baker, Ian Paice, and so does Eric Martin and Sam Bey. It's not WHAT you play, it's HOW you play it.
Every great drummer has at least one showcase. John Bonham has "Fool in The Rain," Neil Peart has "YYZ," Keith Moon has "Young Man Blues," Ian Paice has "Machine Head," Ginger Baker has "Toad," Danny Carey has "Ticks and Leeches," Gavin Harrison has "Anesthetize," Buddy Rich has "West Side Story," Terry Bozzio has "The Black Page," Vinnie Colaiuta has "Seven Days," Carter Beauford has "Say Goodbye," Dennis Chambers has "Black Magic Woman," Steve Gadd has "Aja." What has Adair done?
Hes played very well with more than one huge band. Isnt that enough to tell you he deserves to be respected? Obviously not to you, but to the rest of the world who is a little more open minded and willing to accept that hes a good ol fashoned rock drummer its more than enough. Hes very fast and very busy instead of just keepin a beat. I personally love his style of drumming, but maybe its because i prefer a good solid busy beat and thats just what he gives.
Dude, I'm open-minded. I know great drumming when I hear it. I'll be the first one to admit someone is great if they indeed prove to be so. Daniel Adair is not a great drummer. He is a good drummer for regular rock bands. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Three Doors Down, not so much Nickelback, and Daniel is good for holding a nice little rock beat, but that doesn't make him a great drummer. He's good, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. What more do you want?
I mean, honestly, what makes you think this guy's so special? What does he do on the drumset that is so special? Does he impliment any subtleties in his playing that enhance the music? No. Does he play advanced techniques on a regular basis? No. Does he play in any other time signature other than 4/4? No. Does he ever incorporate other styles into his playing? No. Does he ever do anything other than play the downbeat, in songs? No. Do you get it now? He is not one of the best.
I dont base my life on one instrument. Ive spent my life thus far producing a well rounded musical knowledge and its paid off pretty well so far. I got paid to go to college because of my versatility and now i OWN my own music entertainment business. Dont try to speak above me or confuse me because believe me, it wont work. Hes a drummer for a ROCK BAND. Ya want him playin somethin else? Thats what he does and hes does it very well. Thats the fact of the matter. Your one OPINION is nothing.
I'm not speaking above you, I just don't like when you say things like "take lessons" from Daniel Adair, as if he coiuld teach me something. I take my lessons from those that are masters of their instrument. People I really can learn from. People that play music so well it's inspiring. I've listened to enough Nickelback, seen all of this guy's solos that are posted on youtube, and have found nothing worthwhile in his playing. It's just ordinary regular rock band playing.
the people that say this sucks knows nothing about drumming. daniel can play fusion and many styles and is not affraid to venture in areas where he might not be the most comfortable. that where you got better. nickelback are lucky to have such a skilled man behind the skins and it no coincidence they are at the top. no pun intended but they all had the right reasons to bring him. and he does not need a 100 pieces drumkit to sound good either. and he is one of the coolest dudes too.
I know alot about drums and for a professional musician thats fairly average, he doesnt suck obviously cus he plays drums for a living and isnt out of time or anythin , but that doesnt stop him being very average though! there wasnt much groove their either really...
He's the best drummer in the world. Officially. He'd knock Joey Jordison into the middle of next WEEK!, DAMN! Skillage in the Village!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd expect people to name those 3 names, people who aren't really that music savvy (and I'm not saying you're not) tend to over look the GREAT DRUMMERS in since, FOREVER.
commonly overlooked are Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Stewart Copeland, Danny Carey, Phil Collins, Mike Portnoy, Alex Van Halen x_x among others.)
True. It's not that I don't know them, it's just, I consider them the best. I'd at to the list Steve Gadd, Mike Portnoy, Dave Weckl... it's hard to define the absolute best, that's just who I've always listed as the best because of their renowned status, I guess for the sake of simplicity.
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This guy has been my idol for some time now, Not only does he play fucking awesome! But he plays because he loves music, not for the money, and he's fucking awesome! Rock on!
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drummaboy i couldnt have said it better myself drumming shouldnt be a comp. its a lifestyle to us that play drums with all our ranges if everyone was good drums would mean nothing now would they god gave each of us our talents and things like that and we play with what weve got no matter how good or bad sure being good is great but making mistakes makes u that much better
why can't everyone just be a good drummer and to hell with all the comparisons, it takes heart and dedication to achieve what all these guys do. i'm a drummer , not great but i play my heart out and i'm happy with that
I like drum soli from old schoolers
Globalsourcer 2 weeks ago
this is when he was with 3 doors down, not nickelback
bikestunts123 9 months ago
Good drummer but not a lot of feel. Just a bunch of double bassing. Sounds like something I've heard a million times. And nickelback really sucks.
craw405 1 year ago
I don't like Nickelback that much but their drummer certainly is impressive. Quite inspiring actually!
pauljacksonmusic 1 year ago
Notice the crowds of SCREAMING, ADORING fans?
This man smokes ANY drummer.
THIS MAN IS THE EVOLUTIONARY APEX OF DRUMMINER.
This man makes Buddy Rich and Thomas Lang look like rank beginning amateur clown poseurs.
This man is rewriting the rules of drumming and percussive performance.
He must practice 80 hours a day!
JoeJacari 2 years ago
Dudes ever hear of this drummer?
I stumbled across this drum solo video via Vic Firth's website.
Just type and search:
Paul Wandtke Vic Firth full live drum solo Mandeville, Louisiana
This guy is badass too!!!!
bchetsker73 2 years ago
saw nickelback last night. their drummer is fuckin amazing
earic23 2 years ago
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wesker09 2 years ago
nickelback drummer rite there baby ROCK ON BROTHER!
terenceroach 2 years ago
kik ass solo n lits:]
juggaloc6 2 years ago
Dude!!! This is so fucken awsome!!!!! OMG I LOVE THIS! u r my idol
bagdonavicius18 2 years ago
i was there in front row...awsome...10000/5
MND195 2 years ago
WOW...definitely the one of the best I have ever seen and I have seen Lars and Pert. ROCK ON NICKELBACK !..!
ewetoobebuddah 2 years ago
pert is great but lars is just very fast and knows to play but talking about solos Lars sucks with out dought, chek out the John Bonham's solo in Moby Dick, the original one wich is 20 minutes...
XD Bonzo
bonzorial10 2 years ago
idk i really liked lars's solo but he is like my biggest idol so idk bonham is amazing but i also love nicko mcbrain from iron maiden and chad smith and taylor hawkins are also great....but daniel is a beast!
ultimatefighter187 2 years ago
Who is better: Daniel Adair, Thomas Pridgen, Jerome Flood II or Chad Smith?
Dan070 2 years ago
Jerome flood 2! daniel adair is a total rock and roll groove drummer, while chad smith is also a rock and roll groove drummer but Daniel is to me more creative then chads solo's, jerome is a good (((drummer))), if you know what i mean
NERDZKANDY 2 years ago
i prefer chad but daniel is great as well
ultimatefighter187 2 years ago
Daniel isn't great. He is average. At best. there is NOTHING special about his playing. He plays the same played out beat in all his solo's. There are no polyrythms, just single stroke rolls and a lot of double bass. Please don't look up to him he is so wack. please educate yourself on great drumming.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
Daniel is not creative. At all. He plays the same played out beat all the time.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
pssh w/e man, if it sounds cool man i digg it
NERDZKANDY 2 years ago
wow. just cause he's not a robot like neil peart doesn't make him uncreative. Dude is a great drummer. Not to mention that creativity isn't exactly the drummer's job really. it's to keep the beat. well.. he does a great job of that. even you yourself noticed that.
pillionaire07 2 years ago
Did you just say a drummer's job isn't to be creative? If I could I would slap you in the face right now. That is an insult to all the great drummers who have made great drum beats. You think a drummer is supposed to just sit there and keep time while the guitar goes nuts? Let me educate you a bit. If you want to be a mediocre drummer, like Daniel Adair, just keep the beat. If you want to be great, think outside the box. Listen to Danny Carey's beat on Lateralus, that is greatness.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
Educate me? Dude, I've been playing drums, and guitar, and bass since I was four. You're not telling me anything. Personally, I never cared for Danny Carey, or Tool for that matter. Mediocre? Wow, better to be mediocre than over rated. Sure, Daniel isn't doing anything new, but he's still a great drummer. No, I don't think the drummer shouldn't be creative, but a solid beat will always outmatch the disfigured beats of some "great" drummers. oh, how many records have you sold by the way???
pillionaire07 2 years ago
I've sold my share of records back with my last band. Nickleback can sell gajillions of records, that still won't make them talented. Maybe you don't see music the way I do. I see it as a way to express myself, I don't conform, nor do I like drummers that conform, to "keeping the beat." Whatever your personal feelings about Danny Carey, you cannot call him overrated. The creativity in his beats are second to none, and they aren't disfigured, they go perfectly with the music.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
If you watch all three videos of this "Daniel Adair great drum solo" you would hear him play the same played out beat in all of them. I've actually gone to a lot of his videos to try and see if he has anything good, and in EVERY SINGLE ONE he plays the same friggin crap. A lot of bass to impress those who don't know better, a lot of triplets (which is the best thing he does in anything), and that same played out beat, or slight variations of the same played out beat.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
So don't give me anymore of this bullshit about Daniel being a great drummer, because I've listened to him enough and I can't take it anymore. I think I have to go practice my rudiments because I feel like I've become a worse drummer for listening to his crap for as long as I have. I need to go watch some Carter Beauford vids now, to hopefully salvage a bit of my my dignity as a musician.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
You want to hear what Daniel Adair would sound like if he were any good? Check out Gavin Harrison, he plays like Daniel Adair, only better. A lot better.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
So you have the right to say Daniel is a bad drummer, but I can't say that Carey is over-rated. It's degrading to say that Carey is better than everyone else because he is more creative. People who have tunnel vision like that are just idiots. I love creative drummers, however, Daniel is a great drummer. In my opinion, which I have a right to. In my opinion, Carey is highly overrated because he's creative. I hate his style, and his beats. I think hes compensating for his lack of talent.
pillionaire07 2 years ago
Let me tell you who has tunnel vision. I'm not narrow-minded because I don't like Daniel Adair, I know great drumming when I hear it, and he is not great. Period. I like a lot of drummers, a lot of talented drummers, just not him. You are the one who is narrow-minded because you know Carey is lightyears better than Adair, yet for whatever reason, you think he's not talented. If you've really been drumming since age 4 you should know how talented Carey is to pull off the beats he creates.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
Read every one of comments, have I EVER said Danny Carey is better than EVERYONE? No. I said he's better than Daniel Adair, which he is, because he's creative. Notice I also mentioned that I like Carter Beauford and Gavin Harrison. You make no damn sense, man, how can being creative compensate for a lack of talent? You have to be talented to be creative! I mean, have you ever listened to Tool? You CANNOT listen to any Tool song and tell me Danny Carey is not talented. You can't.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
i would slap you in the face mate! how the fuck can you say daniel adair is a mediocre drummer. you clearly dont have a clue
SuperNickelback 2 years ago
My man, Daniel Adair is nothing special. Nothing. The best thing in his solos are the triplets, other than that, his playing is mediocre. Not good enough to be called professional, because I know a lot of drummers who struggle to make a living and play circles around him. There is no groove in his playing. It's mostly a lot of random double bass with a simple beat being played with the hands, and to people who don't know better, it seems out of this world, but to another drummer, it's not.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
'Not good enough to be called professional' Now that is taking the piss. You do sound like you know what you're talking about but come on! I have just started playing the drums, a few weeks ago, so i aren't as knowledgable as yourself yet but Daniel Adair inspired me to start playing.
SuperNickelback 2 years ago
Since you've just started playing drums, I'm going to tell you about drummers you should really look up to. If you like a lot of groove, check out Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews Band, also Dennis Chambers, Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Smith, and legends like John Bonham, Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, and Ginger Baker. If you like a technical drummer, check out Neil Peart, Gavin Harrison, Bobby Jarzombek, and Mike Portnoy. If you want a drummer with everything, check out Danny Carey.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
I also recomend you take music classes somewhere. Knowing how to read music will allow you to do a more broad range of music. Learn about drumming techniques and how to incorporate different styles into your music. For the love of God, don't just listen to Daniel Adair.
PoeticJustice05 2 years ago
I am taking drum lessons and thanks for giving me some other drummers to look at.
SuperNickelback 2 years ago
I'm not even a drummer, and i think this guy sucks bad, he really can't play...
Remneous 2 years ago
Lets see you do it... Million bucks says hes faster with one hand than you are with two. Get off your high horse and give the man some respect. Hes amazingly fast and knowledgeable about his equipment. Dont try and take anything away from his talent by sayin hes not good enough to be called professional. Hes with one of the most successful bands there are and thats not his first. His record speaks loud enough on its own, let alone his playing ability, which is beyond "professional"
crewdj 1 year ago
So you're one of theose guys that thinks money equals ability. What you people don't realize is that the music biz is all about luck. There are very talented people that are not famous because they never played the right show, or never met the right people. Just because someone is the richest drummer in the world doesn't make him the best; case in point: this guy and Travis Barker. They are the two richest drummers in the world, but they are at the bottome of the barrell in the drum world.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
continued...
I say what I do because everything he does is basic and rudimentary. There is nothing special in his playing. He's never done a polyhythm in his life, never subdivided the pulse by anything other than two and three, never played anything better than any small bar drummer has. If you knew other drummers, you would realize this; if you knew anything about drumming, you would realize this.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
And i suppose your some music master thats seen and done it all right? As a matter of fact i grew up on music and have played several instruments all my life, one of which includes drums. One of my best friends happens to be the number one drummer in the state actually and hes not quite on the same par. Daniel takes the pulse and throws it out the window several times in his solos which is just what a fantastic drummer should and can do. He can go off the beaten path and still make music.
crewdj 1 year ago
I'm no master, but I know enough. I've been playing drums and percussion for my entire life. I don't play any other instruments, I focus on the drums, because I want to master them.
He does take the pulse and throw it out the window, but not in a good way. Even in his solos he only plays in 4/4, and when he's not, he's off on some tangent with no direction.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Im not sayin that he may have been in the right place at the right time to get where he is today, but he obviously deserves to be as well respected as he is, even if you disagree. He may not be the absolute best drummer in the world, but hes sure at the top of the catch, not the bottom of the barrell. You may have something against him due to you being a struggling musician or a friend of yours not makin it past the bar scene, but its not his fault hes as talented as he is.
crewdj 1 year ago
I have no hate in my heart for any musician that has made a name for himself. My problem isn't with him, it's with you, and people like you that over-praise him for his abilities. I could name a hundred drummers off the top of my head that play with more adeptness, more uniqeness, more fluidity, more musicality, and more technicality than Daniel Adair. If you want me to go down that long road, I could.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Your problem is obviously with him and your thinking that hes not worthy of the success he has. You opinion is that he isnt any good cuz he doesnt play what you wanna hear but the fact is that hes very talented and apt and unique and worthy of all the praise hes given. Hes a great drummer and a very smart musician. Give him his dues. Maybe not idol him, but just recognize that he is very good, even if not your style. I happen to HATE travis barker and his style but doesnt mean hes not good
crewdj 1 year ago
I don't care how rich he is, or how successful his band is, that has nothing to do with how good HE is, that deals with record sales. I'm only talking about his talent as a musician, irrespective of how much money he racks in. You have to get this idea out of your mind that money equals talent. One hard look at today's music industry would tell you that.
It's not that I don't like his style, I'm just saying he's not that good. I never said he sucks, but he's nothing special, that's it.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
You keep throwing money into it and never have i said that hes good because hes rich. Thats not at all what i said or meant so no more playin that card. Hes good because hes got talent and talent equals money, not the other way around like youve repeatedly stated that i claim. How do you say hes not that good? Im baffled at why youre so against him being good. I mean, youve stated lots of reasons, all of which myself and the majority of people who know anything about music disagree with...
crewdj 1 year ago
You said success, that means he's doing well for himself, which means he's rich, that's why I say that, but we can move on from that. Now, once again, I never said he wasn't good, I said he's nothing special. Anybody can see he's a competent drummer, but there are thousands of guys out there like that. He only sticks to the basics, he doesn't challenge himself musically, that's why he's no better than the small bar drummer, because they can do the same things; hold a downbeat.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Youre obviously young. Success is money? Id say success means playing for a huge band all over the world and being one of the best at what he does. The money is a side effect of his success. Somewhere about 45 sec into the video the downbeat is gone. Not anywhere to be found. GONE. He loses the downbeat and plays a real solo. No guidelines. Then its back, then its gone, then its back and so on. Thats what a person wants to see from a drummer and thats exactly what you get from him. Take lessons
crewdj 1 year ago
The best at what he does? How many drummers do you know? Do you base your life on one instrument like I do? Do you know who Vinnie Colaiuta is? Who Danny Carey is? Who Steve Gadd, Dennis Chambers, Carter Beauford, Buddy Rich, Steve Jordan, Bernard Purdie, Max Roach, Elvin Jones are? That's who I take lessons from, not this guy. I take my musical cues from masters. I listen to music all day, every day. I constantly am searching for new music to help influence my playing.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
You can list drummers all day that are very good at what they do and very successful doing it. Add this one to your list cuz its pretty obvious hes here to stay judging by the success hes had, is having, and will continue to have despite your sour attitude. Learn what you like from who you like but remember that hes the one makin a pantload of money playin all over the world havin fun. What do you do? Play in your basement while you watch somebody you wish to be? I know whos side ill stay on...
crewdj 1 year ago
Aha, see, you keep bringing up his success. I thought we were past this. You still think success equals talent? Do you really want me to name successful bands with piss-poor musicians, because I could, and that list is LOOOONG, my friend. For a guy who owns his own music business, you should know talent is hardly the determining factor in a band's success. Ever heard of a talented band called Dean Lickyer? Yeah, didn't think so.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Define "master" for me. Again, your opinion is that hes no good. Seems to me that the vast majority, including myself, seems to believe otherwise. The biggest reason im a fan of nickelback is because ALL of its members are very talented musicians. As a matter of fact id say they may be arguably one of the most talented bands out there. I understand that there are people who dont deserve the success they have, but i firmly believe nickelback does, right down to the drummer
crewdj 1 year ago
Okay, a master would be someone who is capable of doing whatever they want on a drumset. What that means is that they have to have great limb independence. Besides that, you take into account their originality, their creativity. Does the drummer bring anything new to the table? Another aspect, is musicality. Does the drummer add the appropriate touches to the song, such as add in a certain cymbol shot where you wouldn't expect one, or a certain syncopation that stands out?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Why do keep putting words in my mouth? I never said he's not good, I said he's nothing special. I'm not saying he can't make a beat, because he can, but so can every other drummer out there. Your argument is that he's one of the best, mine is that he's not. Now stop misinterpreting my argument.
Now, as to Nickelback being of the most talented bands out there, that is another subject altogether. But at least now I see why you defend Mr. Adair so vehemently: you're a big Nickelback fan.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
What else do you want me to tell you? I've told you why he's nothing special, I've defined what a master is, would you like examples of master drumming? For a great example of limb independence, listen to "St. Augustine in Hell" by Sting, off the album "Ten Summoner's Tales.". The session drummer Sting hired is Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the most revered studio drummers ever, and you'll see why when you hear the 7/8 over 4/4 polyrhythm he created. For a great example of technicality, look up...
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
...Terry Bozzio playing "The Black Page," a piece composed by Frank Zappa, and notorious for its technical difficulty. If you want a master example of originality, look up a song called "Rosetta Stoned" by Tool. In the middle of the song, Danny Carey performs a beautiful polyrhythm in which he plays a Swiss Triplet with his hands along the toms and snare, steady quater notes with his leftt foot on the hi-hat, and a 5/4 rhythm with his right foot on the bass. For a master example of...
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
...musicality, listen to the song "The Sound of Muzak" by Porcupine Tree. Gavin Harrison is phenominal. The drum part he composed for that song is nothing short of masterful, and so beautiful. He plays the hi-hat in eigth notes using the moeller technique, so that only the quarter notes are accented, while playing a 7/8 polyrhythm on the bass that accents in the same places as the bass, and then adds ghost notes on the snare that are barely audible, while adding other multiple accents.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Ahhh... I get it now. You like a drummer that plays some non-traditional off the wall beat. That explains why you dislike Daniel so much. He plays a very true beat that everyone can listen to and follow, not get lost in the first 15 sec. As a music major i can appreciate a person that likes a different beat, but that doesnt make the traditional ones any less amazing. I dont believe that Daniel couldnt play these beats if he desired to do so, but thats not the music he makes.
crewdj 1 year ago
Those were just examples of masterful drumming. There's a difference, because drum parts like that are what separate the masters from Daniel and everybody else. If you were to call Daniel one of the best, you'd have to call every other drummer one of the best, because every drummer in the world can easily create a beat like the ones he does. That's my point. If Daniel wants to be considere one of the best, he has to do something to show it.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
I dont mean to be disrespectful to a fellow musician but you need to realize that your list of examples of the people you think are the greatest in the world is YOUR list. Of that list i happen to not be at all impressed with most of them. They can drum, sure, but i dont like them. However, you dont see me tryin to convince you that theyre just some drummer. You like them and i respect that. Return the respect for the rest of us who are impressed with Daniel, even if you arent
crewdj 1 year ago
If you want me to praise a drummer as being great, he has to prove it. I don't care how successful the band is, that is a measure of the whole, not the parts. On his own, Daniel is nothing special, but in good ol' boy bands like Three Doors Down and Nickelbands, he fits in perfectly.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
*Nickelback*
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
That's because they aren't just some drummers. Just some drummers can't do the things they can, that's what makes them great, get it? Regardless of what I like or what you like, those drummers I listed are great drummers, because of reasons I have already listed.
You can have different tastes, but that's a different argument. What I'm talking about is skill. I hate the way Terry Bozzio plays, but I acknowledge that he is a great drummer because of what he's capable of.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Notice that every example you gave was because it carried an off beat rhythm such as 5/4 or 7/8. If thats what youre tryin to get at i understand. But you cant expect him to be playin somethin like that given his current band. Could he? I think so. He has the ability to learn anything because hes very good. Should he be playin somethin along the lines of your taste? No. Doesnt make him any less of a master, just in another genre.
crewdj 1 year ago
It's not about my taste, it's about doing something, anything, to prove he's one of the best, to stand out, to prove he deserves to be mentioned along the names of the greatest virtuosos. My point: what has he done for him to be called one of the best? If he were so great he'd do something great, even in Nickelback. But he hasn't. Everything he does is the same old run-of-the-mill drum beats that every other regular rock drummer does. It's all the same formulaic crap, you don't see that?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
You can argue till your blue that hes just another average drummer, but i highly doubt that your plethera of examples of drummers in a completely different genre are going to change the opinion of the rest of the world. You have a right to your opinion and im happy for you to be so sure of what you like, but dont try and place your thoughts on everyone who likes what he does. Again, hes the one with a huge career, not you...
crewdj 1 year ago
Again with the career argument...
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
I personally think hes the best rock drummer there is. His playing is subtly different than the rest and much more entertaining to listen to. Its not your style as i can see from your list of your favorite drummers. Fair enough. If you dont believe that his speed, skill, knowledge, and style make him great thats up to you. Most people however do believe hes great. At the very very least hes much better than most drummers that play his genre. You need to compare apples to apples not to oranges
crewdj 1 year ago
What does he do that's different than any other rock drummer? At least give me some examples, as I have given you. And for the last frigging time, I don't give a damn what style of music it is, I listen to all kinds of music.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
His solos are all pretty much the same one as you can see. I agree. But his music is not at all the same. He uses much more kick drum (which happens to be my favorite) such as the beginning of Follow You Home or Animals or the bridge on SEX. He throws in nice off beat accents with the cymbals in Never Again. It gives it that little something extra that most drummers will use sometimes but not often like Daniel. I like his fills as well. Not too busy but not boring. Effective but not overpowering
crewdj 1 year ago
Ah, you like the kick drum, that's why you don't fancy the guys I mentioned, because they use enough kick drum, eh? Anyways, that just shows your ignorance about drumming. You have to respect all apsects of it, especially if you're trying to argue objectively who is great/the best. Regardless, Follow You Home and Animals have their cool kick drum moments, at the beginning, but other than that, it's just regular drumming. And Adair didn't play drums for Never Again, that was when they had ...
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
I did know that actually. And if youd like to add to that when animals came out it wasnt adair either. However it is now and i prefer him ten fold over ryan. Never did anyone say he was the best in the world. Dont try and play that i have an ignorance about drumming. That happens to be my favorite but by no means does the rest of the set not count. You asked why hes different and i gave you 3 solid examples. Now youre going to try and argue those too?? Come on man...
crewdj 1 year ago
Well, being that two of those three examples aren't even Daniel, you just foiled your own argument that he is different because I didn't know it was two different drummers until I looked it up.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
You havent seen them both live have you... If you had youd tell a big difference very quickly. Daniel Adair plays circles around Ryan Vikedal
crewdj 1 year ago
I've seen solos of Ryan Vikedal. They both play the same way. Maybe that's why they both played for the same bands.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Ryan Vikedal as their drummer. I'm surprised a big Nickelback fan didn't know that.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
What does the genre have to do with it? If a drummer is great, he's great, no matter what. The drummers I listed have played in all kinds of genres, that has nothing to do with it.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Do you not believe that he couldnt play like the people you list? How can you know what his limits are? Hes always been in a rock band and has always played as such. That doesnt mean hes incapable of playing something completely different. It just means you havent heard it. Nor should you with him in the situation hes in. Hes doing just exactly what he should be and doing it very well.
crewdj 1 year ago
I'm not saying he can't, but he HASN'T; that's the point. Up til now, all he's done is simple rock beats. Hurray for him, I can do them, too, and so can every drummer I know, does that mean we all deserve to be respected as the best? If he really were so great, don't you think at SOME point he would have shown it? At least once? No, you don't agree? You think he only plays like that because he has to?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
If he CAN then hes the same caliber as the ones you call great. He does what he should. He doesnt need to be playin some off beat that doesnt match the genre of the band. Solo or not thats not what he should be doin. I would imagine he plays what he likes best. If he wanted to play some other type of music im sure he would, but this is what he loves and wants to play. Can ya blame a guy for playing what he loves?
crewdj 1 year ago
No, you can't blame him for playing what he loves, but that doesn't make him the best drummer in the world, or even close.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
If youre going to continue and try and counter every point i make or example i give thats fine. Ill stop wasting your time. Its obvious that your 21 years of wisdom is greater than anyone elses. You should have your masters in drumming by now am i right? Maybe someday you can be so kind as to enlighten the rest of the world as to what really makes a great drummer... Good luck in your efforts to be better every day. As i said, ill always support a fellow musician whether our opinions agree or not
crewdj 1 year ago
I am 21, but I've been drumming for almost that long, so I know what I'm talking about. You seem to think I don't support Daniel, or you, or anybody else. I do, the only thing I'm saying is that he is not one of the best. Does that make me the bad guy? Is it me against the world when I say Daniel Adair is not that great? Who really is the close-minded one here?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Whats close-minded is that you wont even entertain the idea that hes good no matter what scale you use. Speed, skill, knowledge, success, ability, money.... Doesnt matter which aspect you look at youll argue them all to be incorrect. Adair makes Ryan look boring. Its obvious that Adair is the better drummer there. Ryan is your typical "rock band" drummer. Pretty straight forward and blah. Adair is not
crewdj 1 year ago
Yeah, whatever dude. They played the same on the records, so everything you've said about him being different has gone down the toilet. And actually, I preferred Ryan Vikedal's drumming, especially in "How You Remind Me." I dug that song, back in the day.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Realize that Chad Kroeger wrote all of those songs. HE put the drum parts together, not the drummer. Its only in the live performances that you can see the differences in the two. Of course the recorded tracks are gonna sound the same genious. Thats how they were written! Like i said, see em both live in concert and then tell me you cant tell a difference. If ya cant then your no where near the drum expert you say you are...
crewdj 1 year ago
You're telling me that Kroeger plays the drums, and knows how to annotate drum tabs? If that's so, he must be the most talented man in that band.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Of course you had somethin to say about that didnt ya. The drum parts are the same from drummer to drummer. The basic drum lines in the songs. The common denominator there is the guy who writes their songs genious... Its a known fact that Chad writes most everything they play and presents the new song to the rest of the band at soundcheck. Its hard to believe that both Daniel and Ryan wanted the same format every time, which points again to Chad. Im sure hes talented enough to write a drum part
crewdj 1 year ago
Of course I had something to say. If a drummer can't find his own voice in a song, then what's the point? Might as well use a drumming machine. And there's a difference between a guy who writes songs, as in lyrics and a guitar riff, and a guy who writes out songs for every member in his band. If the latter is the case, it might as well be called the Chad Kroeger Band. Is he some virtuoso like Frank Zappa that writes out every part for every instrument? Can't the drummer make his own beat?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Youre so sure that youre just the most knowledgable person there is about some drums and how to play em that its beyond confidence and right onto arrogance. Amazing that a simple comment about him being a good drummer led to such a nice long conversation full of useless examples and big words trying to insult and confuse the person that challenges your statement. And now youre in it to defend yourself no matter what the topic, right or wrong.
crewdj 1 year ago
If you think that the entire conversation was about me saying how much he sucked and is not good, you haven't been paying attention. All I've done is say he's not one of the best, and thoroughly explained why. I've already said he's a good drummer, but that's it. How many more times must I repeat that? And I spoke in terms of music theory, sorry if some of the words were too big.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
And now that weve moved to a completely different member who could very well be the most talented person in the band, you STILL try and argue a point you apparently know nothing about. I dont doubt youre probably fairly knowledgable about a drumset, but your arrogance about it does you no good. I got your point long ago, but you refused to consider the possibility that he IS good and COULD play the same music youd like to see and rather just stick to the option where hes nothing above good.
crewdj 1 year ago
Dude, you need to pay attention. I hate repeating myself, especially when what I've said is written down. Once again, I didn't say he couldn't play something like the stuff I mentioned; I said he HASN"T. So until he does, you can speculate all you want, but you have nothing to back it up. And as far as Kroeger goes, I don't doubt he's the most talented guy in the band. I'm sure he is.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
This will be the last of me trying to open your mind to any possibility other than your own theory about Daniel Adair. Thankfully im the one who likes his playing and will continue to support him and enjoy listening to his music. You keep on with your 7/8 and other off beat rhythms and do your best to become a well rounded master of your life long instrument. Im sure someday youll laugh at how much more talented and versatile you are than some little rock drummer like him
crewdj 1 year ago
I see you have this deep-set self-righteousness about that keeps you from reading what I write correctly. You're such a mega-fan of this guy you can't even see what I write, you see what you want. How do I know you're a mega-fan? Because all I've said is he's not one of the best, and you take that as blasphemy. I love music. If somebody wants to play good ol' boy rock and roll, let them. My point throughout this is that just because of that, you can't call him the best.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
And there's nothing off-beat about time signatures like 7/8. If you can't keep up with it, that's your own fault.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Hahahahahahahaha. Oh the joys of being young and knowing everything... Youll learn kid. Give it time
crewdj 1 year ago
Right, rather than respond to my comments, you mock my age. Mm-hmm, I'm the one that needs to learn.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Ive come to understand that trying to explain anything to you is a waste of time and effort so no, i wont put any further effort into explanations. If theres some other more apparent reason for your arrogance (maybe your parents have lots of money and you went to some fancy private school or you were a star ball player or something of that sort) id gladly comment on that instead, but all youve given me to understand why youre so much smarter than everyone else is age. I was there once too
crewdj 1 year ago
OK, I've been playing percussion since I was 5. My father took me as a child to a Peruvian restaurant, and there was live band playing, in the center a man was sitting on a box and slapping his hands upon it, I asked my dad what that thing was, and he said a 'cajon,' which is what the instrument is called. Now, hispanic music is largely based on the rhythm section, in fact, it's the foundation of it; and when I saw that man playing the cajon, I fell in love with the rhythm aspect of music...
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
and since I've played every kind of percussive device, and on the Christmas of my 13th birthday, I got my first drumset. Since then I've made my life revolve around music. Now you know enough about me.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
There is no arrogance to what I'm saying, not one bit. I love music of all sorts, hard or simple, strange or familiar. I understand that this man loves playing straight up rock and roll. My only point is that as far as I have seen of his playing, he is not one of the more remarkable players I've ever heard. That's it. I'm not trying to denounce him, his band, or his style, I'm just objectively analysing his level of playing, based on factors which I've already stated.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
And also, you keep dismissing his lack of exceptionality by saying he plays ROCK. Well John Bonham played ROCK, too, but the man played it friggin great. Keith Moon played ROCK, so did Ginger Baker, Ian Paice, and so does Eric Martin and Sam Bey. It's not WHAT you play, it's HOW you play it.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Every great drummer has at least one showcase. John Bonham has "Fool in The Rain," Neil Peart has "YYZ," Keith Moon has "Young Man Blues," Ian Paice has "Machine Head," Ginger Baker has "Toad," Danny Carey has "Ticks and Leeches," Gavin Harrison has "Anesthetize," Buddy Rich has "West Side Story," Terry Bozzio has "The Black Page," Vinnie Colaiuta has "Seven Days," Carter Beauford has "Say Goodbye," Dennis Chambers has "Black Magic Woman," Steve Gadd has "Aja." What has Adair done?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
Hes played very well with more than one huge band. Isnt that enough to tell you he deserves to be respected? Obviously not to you, but to the rest of the world who is a little more open minded and willing to accept that hes a good ol fashoned rock drummer its more than enough. Hes very fast and very busy instead of just keepin a beat. I personally love his style of drumming, but maybe its because i prefer a good solid busy beat and thats just what he gives.
crewdj 1 year ago
Dude, I'm open-minded. I know great drumming when I hear it. I'll be the first one to admit someone is great if they indeed prove to be so. Daniel Adair is not a great drummer. He is a good drummer for regular rock bands. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Three Doors Down, not so much Nickelback, and Daniel is good for holding a nice little rock beat, but that doesn't make him a great drummer. He's good, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. What more do you want?
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
I mean, honestly, what makes you think this guy's so special? What does he do on the drumset that is so special? Does he impliment any subtleties in his playing that enhance the music? No. Does he play advanced techniques on a regular basis? No. Does he play in any other time signature other than 4/4? No. Does he ever incorporate other styles into his playing? No. Does he ever do anything other than play the downbeat, in songs? No. Do you get it now? He is not one of the best.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
I dont base my life on one instrument. Ive spent my life thus far producing a well rounded musical knowledge and its paid off pretty well so far. I got paid to go to college because of my versatility and now i OWN my own music entertainment business. Dont try to speak above me or confuse me because believe me, it wont work. Hes a drummer for a ROCK BAND. Ya want him playin somethin else? Thats what he does and hes does it very well. Thats the fact of the matter. Your one OPINION is nothing.
crewdj 1 year ago
I'm not speaking above you, I just don't like when you say things like "take lessons" from Daniel Adair, as if he coiuld teach me something. I take my lessons from those that are masters of their instrument. People I really can learn from. People that play music so well it's inspiring. I've listened to enough Nickelback, seen all of this guy's solos that are posted on youtube, and have found nothing worthwhile in his playing. It's just ordinary regular rock band playing.
PoeticJustice05 1 year ago
is he giving the crowd the finger at 2:40?
rydog45 2 years ago
You can CLEARLY see those are horns, not the bird...
haight 2 years ago
The best drum solo!! Daniel Adair is good drummer! and Nickleback forEver!!
ZizouGmail 2 years ago
i wouldn't consider this guy the best, but he is certainly good. I just hate Nickelback soo fucking much
mikeportnoyfan 2 years ago
Lester estelle jr is still the man
bulldogballer3 2 years ago
zzzzzzz
rlozano 2 years ago
For anyone hating.
I've got one word.
Martone.
GrooveThumper 3 years ago
was this his solo in the all the right reasons tour?
Ramen1020 3 years ago
the people that say this sucks knows nothing about drumming. daniel can play fusion and many styles and is not affraid to venture in areas where he might not be the most comfortable. that where you got better. nickelback are lucky to have such a skilled man behind the skins and it no coincidence they are at the top. no pun intended but they all had the right reasons to bring him. and he does not need a 100 pieces drumkit to sound good either. and he is one of the coolest dudes too.
stromghoul 3 years ago
I know alot about drums and for a professional musician thats fairly average, he doesnt suck obviously cus he plays drums for a living and isnt out of time or anythin , but that doesnt stop him being very average though! there wasnt much groove their either really...
curndawg 2 years ago 2
I gotta say, there was nothing spectacular about it.
dremkwil 3 years ago
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Actually, screw my last comment. Joey is the world's best drummer and always will be. I'm a maggot 4 lyf!!!!
Carlovingjosh 3 years ago
i got dizzy from watching how fast he is omg i love him <3333333
xToxicEmoGurl33x 3 years ago
I prefer frost from satyricon but for a band like nickelback it is a good drummer :)
punish831 3 years ago
He's the best drummer in the world. Officially. He'd knock Joey Jordison into the middle of next WEEK!, DAMN! Skillage in the Village!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carlovingjosh 3 years ago 5
Neil Peart, Keith Moon, and John Bonham. Not that he's not good, it's just, there's been and there is better.
nocturnezero 3 years ago
I'd expect people to name those 3 names, people who aren't really that music savvy (and I'm not saying you're not) tend to over look the GREAT DRUMMERS in since, FOREVER.
commonly overlooked are Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Stewart Copeland, Danny Carey, Phil Collins, Mike Portnoy, Alex Van Halen x_x among others.)
dylrio24 3 years ago
True. It's not that I don't know them, it's just, I consider them the best. I'd at to the list Steve Gadd, Mike Portnoy, Dave Weckl... it's hard to define the absolute best, that's just who I've always listed as the best because of their renowned status, I guess for the sake of simplicity.
nocturnezero 3 years ago
dont forget dave lombardo and gene hoglan
jakehill09 3 years ago
I think Dave Lombardo would disagree!
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This guy has been my idol for some time now, Not only does he play fucking awesome! But he plays because he loves music, not for the money, and he's fucking awesome! Rock on!
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ALEXWWE94 3 years ago
WOW
keiran007 3 years ago
And 1400 bpm on a f***ing bassdrum!!!
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can i just say, are u a drummer, that i physicly imposable!
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wolechair 3 years ago
world's record is 20 notes in second
rappwr 4 years ago
u can rly see from that angle.
drummerdude1010 4 years ago
either tama or yamaha.
drummerdude1010 4 years ago
He plays pearl.
drumminggod91 4 years ago
what kind of drums are those?
Simarddrummer 4 years ago
pearl
hellbabe1103 4 years ago
This guy is amazing!!! Love him!!! Love Nickelback!!!
utnbfan 4 years ago
wow i had no idea this guy was this good he fucking rocks
illinihacker 4 years ago
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wow.. gthis guy is actually pretty good. why the hell is he in such a crappy band!!
jarhead12343 4 years ago
damn he sick wit it for realz
yeahdie27 4 years ago
Good hands but ne's never over 15 notes a sec on the bass drums.
Chaanee 4 years ago
15 notes a second? lol
AdamRobichaud 4 years ago
Fuck dude this guy should NOT be with Nickelback!
He's way too good for them
GroundBeef14 4 years ago
whoever thinks this guy sucks, look at yourself in the mirror. damn...maybe you shouldnt.
christoph2nd 4 years ago
Saw it live last night, and it was awesome. No doubt about it. Anyone saying he sucks has absolutely no clue about drumming.
vadamom 4 years ago
anyone who wants him out should die! end of.
shaggynewsat6 4 years ago
he's becoming one of
KrushLuck 4 years ago
please sheck out my drum solo im 12 years old
Evon127 4 years ago
i honestly dont care what band hes in... daniel adair kicks ass.... plain and simple
fhwgwdahs 4 years ago
I have new found respect for this guy!!
soggicornflakes 4 years ago
fuck he is a gun drummer. this clip is so good. shame hes in a shit band. the only reason why i dont mind nickelback is because hes in it.
sikunit 4 years ago
my god, nickelback OwNz, dont say it, Nickelback! Nickelback! Nickelback!
guilhermetrancos2007 4 years ago
that was an amazin drum solo!!!!
godofdrumming 4 years ago
FUCK, HE'S DAMN GOOD!!!
GeemoniKzell26 4 years ago
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haw002 (1 month ago)
this guy has more originality and heart than half the guys out there..
So true! That is why I love watching this guy! He is amazing and genuine!
utnbfan 4 years ago
drummaboy i couldnt have said it better myself drumming shouldnt be a comp. its a lifestyle to us that play drums with all our ranges if everyone was good drums would mean nothing now would they god gave each of us our talents and things like that and we play with what weve got no matter how good or bad sure being good is great but making mistakes makes u that much better
faithremains 4 years ago
2 words. Top Shelf.
TopShelfDrummer 4 years ago
why can't everyone just be a good drummer and to hell with all the comparisons, it takes heart and dedication to achieve what all these guys do. i'm a drummer , not great but i play my heart out and i'm happy with that
drummaboy6sicsix 5 years ago
Lol, I can't believe people can actually find a way to bash this guy.
Honestly.
He's not the greatest technical drummer out there.
But he's fucking good.
He's got groove AND showmanship.
That's a combo not a lot of drummers have.
Insane drummer.
drumminggod91 5 years ago
ive been playin for 12 yrs this guys sik
doublebassdrum 5 years ago
seriously.. just cuz you're the fastest player doesn't mean shit honestly. this guy has more originality and heart than half the guys out there..
haw002 5 years ago
so many people on here no nothing about drums
Glenno87 5 years ago