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"Those pretty signs on the pumps about turning you engine off while refueling and not talking on your cell phone is bull. Those things dont cause fires. Oh wait, I guess they do!!" (the thoughts of the idiot at the pump)
should've had the presence of mind to shut off the fuel before removing the hose. 'static electricity in petrol station woman' did. now he's got a burnt car
@lelib2007 Well, I am an expert on cell phones and explosive atmospheres: 25 years as a senior IT field tech for a Fortune 100 company, 45 years in electronics, mandatory OSHA training, responsible for fueling safety when I fill my work truck.... There has never been a credible instance of a cell phone igniting gasoline during fueling. However, this is a classic example of static ignition. The man touches the nozzle after walking around and it ignites. The cell phone is a red herring.
@WhiteWolf56765 yeah I was being sarcastic but the dude was running around in a circle for a minute and doing it from his point of view :) I would have just gone to my friend "Ditch the car and run theres a bomb!!!!"
@pyro999maniac - absolutely. The ignition occurred when the guy touched the nozzle. The cell phone aspect is pure superstition. It could theoretically cause ignition - cell phones are not certified explosion proof - but it has never been known to happen.
Using the phone has nothing to do with it, proven fact.
Due to concerns over cancer, the power levels of cellphones were brought down, way down, to the point that cellphones are now intrinsically safe by the very nature.
Now, look again, right hand just before the large flames, cigarette lighter, that is why he switched the phone to his left hand.
Look carefully at his pipe and you will see why they took off so quickly, crack pipe.
1:00 ohhh fuk witch way to runn i kan scape this an leave mah friend or get ma sell busted an stay shiiiittt idkkk fukk in not blak enough to leave hahahhahaa
Its simple, u come onto my forecourt with a mobile phone in your hand u will be told to get rid of it b4 i authorize your pump... Ppl just do it cos they think that no one is watching, and yes ive had dickheads on my fourcourt smoking, so ive shut down all the pumps and when everyone that is trying to pump fuel are all looking at me, i get on the P.A. saying.." sorry fokes ive had to shut the pumps down cos there is an fool on pump 2 that is smoking, once he gets rid of it ill reauthorize thanx
Carefully watch the guy on the back side of the car at 0:48 . Also take note the CCTV records video every few seconds .It skips a few seconds, then records a few seconds. So there's something you're not seeing after 0:48 and 0:50. It could be the phone, but I doubt it. It's probably the guy lighting a cigarette. I have seen people light cigarettes ate gas pumps at least a couple dozen times . That has to be the STUPIDEST thing anyone can do. Pure stupidity at it's finest!
Static electricity! I would not drive that car. The guy has enough balls to come to the car and try to extinguish the fire after 20 or more second of fire.
I'm an engineer. He went inside and came back out without grounding himself. The cell phone had nothing to do with this, and it's shameful that ignorance leads to policymaking.
Cell phones don't cause fires at the pump, static electricity does. you'd have to be a complete moron to believe that cell phones are the cause of those fires.
@chillardbee You're mistaken, both the electronics inside a cell phone in the right condition AND static electricity can ignite fuel vapors when they are in the right concentration, temperature and when the energy from the cell phone or static discharge is sufficient. However the energy from a cell phone is not STATIC electricity. It appears they are considering ANY hidden energy that does not produce a visible spark as "static electricity"....like some kind of voodoo, but it is not.
The recommendation not to use cellphones while operating a gasoline pump can be summed up in one word: LAWYERS.
The energy from a phone that you refer to are radio frequency emissions. RF emission is inherent with any electronic device, including the electronics in the gasoline pump.
Although a cellular phone must emit RF at a sufficient amplitude to work in the manner that's intended, the amplitude necessary for the emission to be an ignition source is too low.
@Watcher3223 Nevertheless there is enough current inside the cell phone which is NOT intrinsically safe to cause ignition of the fuels, the RF emissions notwithstanding. Earlier someone mentions there isn't enough current in the cell phone battery to create an arch..certainly there IS enough and more than enough. We are only surmising here, but it IS a fact that any one of several sources could have caused the ignition, The phone's RF energy, the electronics within, static from removing the n
A cell phone battery is usually around the 3 VDC range; not very high and certainly not high enough potential to create even small sparks without directly shorting the battery terminals.
Microwave emission can cause sparks with exposure to various materials like metals, but the amplitude of the microwave range in the EM spectrum has to be HIGH. How high? Like that of a microwave oven.
A cell phone signal doesn't come anywhere close to that level of amplitude for the emissions.
Static electricity is the most likely explanation for this incident. The people involved moved around unnecessarily during the operation of the gasoline pump, which can cause a build up of static charge. This is exacerbated if the ambient humidity of the environment is very low.
The static discharge will have VERY little current behind it, but the potential will be measured as a few thousand volts. That potential is what will throw a spark when you touch a grounded metal object.
Conversely, the fact that a human body static discharge has extremely low current behind it is the reason why you merely feel a sudden snap of discomfort, maybe even a small sting, rather than suffering from involuntary muscle contractions or a heart fibrillation.
@Watcher3223 But most likely the static discharge is not felt throughout the body because the body is somewhat conductive compared to the skin and air gap that the arch crosses over. The arc is perceived by the nerves closest to the point where it arcs and not throughout the muscles because it transitions smoothly through that area. The same reason you don't feel the energy in the body that an ECG measures. Heart Fibrillation? Again no current near the SA node.
@OliviaSST "But most likely the static discharge is not felt throughout the body because the body is somewhat conductive compared to the skin and air gap that the arch crosses over"
First, it's arc, not arch.
Again, electricity will always flow to ground. If the potential is high enough, the charge will arc to ground if the gap is narrow enough to permit the discharge. The discharge can be felt where the arc occurs, but its effects on the body can be greater with higher current.
The rules to prevent static discharge: (important point capitalized)
1. Touch any grounded metallic object first before operating pump.
2. STAY WITH PUMP NOZZLE WHILE FUELING AND AVOID UNNECESSARY MOVEMENT UNTIL FUELING IS COMPLETE AND NOZZLE IS PLACED BACK IN HOLDER.
You may have noticed the person was walking around the car and then he walks back to the nozzle. That's enough to build up static charge that may ignite gas fumes. Cellphone use may be coincidental in this case.
@Watcher3223 Okay you make a good point, the cell phone use MAY be coincidental. One thing to note is when this took place, winter or summer? Temperature and the like. But MY point I'm making is the cell phone is not inducing or creating STATIC, the clothes he is wearing and the materials on his seat is. But the best thing to do is a bare handed touch to the car or hose NOT in the area of the nozzle/open fuel filling point before comming in contact with the nozzle is a very good idea.
"But the best thing to do is a bare handed touch to the car or hose NOT in the area of the nozzle/open fuel filling point before comming in contact with the nozzle is a very good idea."
Of course, though you shouldn't have to worry about it if you discharge yourself first before ever operating the pump and staying with the pump nozzle at all times until after you put the nozzle away and cap the fuel tank.
"One thing to note is when this took place, winter or summer? Temperature and the like"
Well, the concern with seasons is not necessarily because of temperature, but ambient humidity.
If you live in the southeast, such as Florida, the humidity is so high during the summertime that static electricity in the outdoors is almost unheard of. However, during the winter, the air is drier (low humidity) owing to the colder temperatures.
Respond to this video... PS another reason to not use the cell phone like you said, the lack of situational awareness it causes many and the fact that we tend to walk around while doing it.
@Watcher3223 Yes but he TOUCHES the nozzle assembly which at that point should safely dissipate the static energy into the pumping apparatus. The danger is when you are moving the nozzle TOWARDS the vehicle and the energy from you and the pump apparatus combined or the vehicle transfers such that the potential energy transfer (arc) is also proximal to the optimal vapor/air mixture for combustion. You should also note that if the tank filler area is in proper condition the fire should not burn
@OliviaSST "Yes but he TOUCHES the nozzle assembly which at that point should safely dissipate the static energy into the pumping apparatus."
And the location of the nozzle? If the nozzle is in the gas tank inlet, that's a source of fumes which can propagate from that location in the midst of pumping.
Further, touching the nozzle doesn't automatically mean you discharge static electricity; the nozzle body can sometimes be covered in a rubber shroud and the nozzle lever can be made of plastic.
@OliviaSST "You should also note that if the tank filler area is in proper condition the fire should not burn"
Once the cap for the tank has been taken off and you are pumping fuel, there is enough ventilation to permit fumes to escape.
When you pump gas, if you notice gasoline fumes, even just slightly, then that can be a hazard merely requiring an ignition source to set if off. That's why gas is so volatile; even a small amount of fumes can burn readily in a normal environment once ignited.
@OliviaSST In the right condition? There is no "right condition". The battery of a cell phone does not hold enough amps to even create a spark, static or otherwise.
@chillardbee Thats true, but try to explain that to those idiots. They just tell you the most fucking dumbest theories they created in their heads....
Yes, a cell phone indirectly caused this fire. Instead of holding the phone he should put put his left hand on the roof first... Get a blue tooth instead.
It has been proven there is no way ANY cellular phone devise can create a sufficient static electrical field to spark or ignite a fireball. All cell phone batteries are equipped w/a safety feature along w/the phone itself not allowing the emission of static to this magnitude. The highest power achieved or peak derives from either an incoming or outgoing call. Lower power is used for sustained conversations on the devise.
@mrwaynesclass Yes but the phone doesn't always pick up static from the air, dependant upon what the phone is doing and how much static there is in the air (ie how close you are to an object creating static.
@Firewallz3 The phone picks up static electricity from the air and surrounding objects and by touching the phone these are passed to you. When you touch the car the static is passed onto the car and creates a static spark between the car and the metal end of the fuel pump and ignights the petrol and/or the petrol fumes. Simple. There is a reason behind the "no mobile phones" signs, people don't just put them up for the hell of it!
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O,O at first when the tanker drove past through the gas station, im like "HOLY FUCK, some messed up shit is gonna- oh...well nevermind. it passed through with no problem (WHEW)" xD
Its been proven that cell phones cannot cause explosions even in the perfect set up. Just watch Mythbusters they have proven it with a room full of gas/oxygen and a cell phone ringing/talking no boom there so this was caused strickly by some one not touching there car when they slide there ass out the seat. Easy to avoid just when ever you get out your car put your hand on the frame as you get up you remove all charge from you and you don't burn your car up.
@JrockerForLife Reason why they ban cellphone use is because it might mess up the airplanes ability to fly, and it will crash straight into the gas station.
@saik0pod Right, but unfortunately a good 20% ignore the warnings and "sneak" the use of their electronic devices ANYWAY while the flight attendants aren't looking. This is the mentality of the modern day, in a fucking bubble for reality.
older mobile phones COULD cause explosions. It happened to a bloke in one of our factories. he left his phone in his pocket while in an explosive enviroment. someone called him. BOOM. he is no longer with us.
Newer mobile phones are made and used in a different way. not sure of the whole science of it, but it basically means they are more intrinsically safe in exsplosive enviroments.
First, you can't prove a negative. Second, they won't have tried all the different models on the market. Third, they say a mobile can't generate a spark, but mobile phones use a dc motor for the vibrate function, and dc motors generate sparks. Fourth, a loose wire or malfunction can cause sparks; dendrites forming in lithium batteries can short them causing a fire.
Five, yeah, I agree, this has nothing to do with the phone. ;-)
@Belgianmeth the thing that does not make sense is the fact that there are literary thousands of ignition sources right next to the gas pump, if a tiny spark like the one generated inside a phone could set off an explosion, what prevents the exhaust, engine, brakes, lights on the roof and car, etc, setting it off as well?
You're right, a mobile is a very unlikely ignition source compared to others (especially static electricity). I reacted mainly because of the mythbusters reference, that show is definitely not an authoritative source. I remember the chicken cannon, one of them saying frozen or thawed made no difference because the energy stayed the same... omg...
cellphone was not the source of "static" electricity, the battery can't deliver that kind of amperage, the anti cellphone people are just really ignorant of science.
Strange the amount of people think fire estinguishers and buckets of sand at fuel pumps are just there for decoration! And the don't use mobile phones/no smoking signs!!!
If a cellphone shall ignite a vapor cloud it needs to be held inside the small volume that contains a explosive concentration and even then it probably needs to be malfunctioning in some way. Most of us has experienced spark discharges after exiting the car and then touching it. These are also capable of igniting the vapor.
it has nothing to do with the fact he was on the phone, he touched the car next to the lid of the tank and if he had any static from his seat then he just completed a circuit. static caused the fire, not his phone -.-
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yeah dude, then those who put the cell phone forbidden signs in the petrol stations all over the world are totally idiots
instead they should put signs to ban the female use of any kind of clothes while refuelling their cars and some other signs to ban you wanking through the pocket while refuelling and watching the naked women
IT diesnt take a brainiac to see that is NOT a cell phone, As for safety signs, I AM a Safety Engineer and the no smoking signs are NOT all over the world. As for a antenna that picks up static??? You need to take an electronics class because you sound like an idiot. And YES, polyester as an outer clothing HAS been banned in MOST NATURAL GAS REFINERIES in north America for causing fires.
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LOL I'm astonished to know that you ever graduated high school and is HILARIOUS to know that a dumb fuck Safety Engineer recommends others to ignore some warning or forbidden signs. I can hold you physics lessons any time grandpa, but I'm sure you can prove us wrong by holding your cell phone over a metal bucket full of petrol and attempting or receiving some calls (let's say 100 just to be sure), then post the video on youtube and you will prove us how you can become a very hot man (literally)
Your an ASS. I've never claimed to ignore safety signs.. just that the video posted here is a lie and that it is NOT a cell phone the worker is holding, nor is it what started the fire. You assume too much and are just plain ignorant. Picking up a static signal and creating a static spark are NOT the same thing... and all those that read this can accept the fact that you didn't know the difference. You can iether go read a book and learn something, or babble on with cursing. either way, I WIN!
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MsRavago 5 days ago
"Those pretty signs on the pumps about turning you engine off while refueling and not talking on your cell phone is bull. Those things dont cause fires. Oh wait, I guess they do!!" (the thoughts of the idiot at the pump)
hentschelmann 3 weeks ago
grab the bucket of water stupid, why are u callin the employee
BOREDfromX2z 1 month ago
what a fuking pussy
edson333 3 months ago
i bet his extinguisher was in the trunk :D
mrssiruuvi 4 months ago
@jeffmau1 awesome video man !!!
bytmeh 4 months ago
should've had the presence of mind to shut off the fuel before removing the hose. 'static electricity in petrol station woman' did. now he's got a burnt car
cowofthemonth 4 months ago
Checkout snopes...
exnol 4 months ago
Love it how everyone become a specialist at everything on youtube...
lelib2007 4 months ago 3
@lelib2007 Well, I am an expert on cell phones and explosive atmospheres: 25 years as a senior IT field tech for a Fortune 100 company, 45 years in electronics, mandatory OSHA training, responsible for fueling safety when I fill my work truck.... There has never been a credible instance of a cell phone igniting gasoline during fueling. However, this is a classic example of static ignition. The man touches the nozzle after walking around and it ignites. The cell phone is a red herring.
flagmichael 1 month ago
Gay guy to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!!!
monster271 5 months ago
omg I've just set my car on fire now I run around randomly like the fire will be out naturally not even look for a fire extinguisher!
Americabz 5 months ago
@Americabz Look for a fire extinguisher when the whole fucking place is about to explode? Good thinking
WhiteWolf56765 3 months ago
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@WhiteWolf56765 yeah I was being sarcastic but the dude was running around in a circle for a minute and doing it from his point of view :) I would have just gone to my friend "Ditch the car and run theres a bomb!!!!"
Americabz 3 months ago
FAKE
Ethan07895 5 months ago
@Ethan07895 how can this be fake idiot -.-''
LetsPlayFreak1000 4 months ago
@LetsPlayFreak1000 Ethan07895 was talking about his girlfriend's orgasms.
dfhowes 2 months ago
SRY BUT THAT WAS FUNNY BUT THAT SUCKS
minniemickey576 5 months ago
This is static electricity. That's why you don't mess around while refueling and need to always ground yourself before touching the pump.
Br3ach 6 months ago
mobile phones do not cause this to happen. it is purely static electricity.
pyro999maniac 6 months ago 4
@pyro999maniac - absolutely. The ignition occurred when the guy touched the nozzle. The cell phone aspect is pure superstition. It could theoretically cause ignition - cell phones are not certified explosion proof - but it has never been known to happen.
flagmichael 1 month ago
Oh crap! I don't get paid enough for this shit!
ArizonaSean 6 months ago
Why didn't the idiot help himself to the fire extinguisher?
acabtp 6 months ago
@acabtp 'cus he's a idiot... Why the idiotic question anyway?
lelib2007 4 months ago
yeah baby, fuel that car. fuel it good.
DocSicnarf 6 months ago
"oh crap" lol
Ghostfloata 6 months ago
"oh crap" lol
Ghostfloata 6 months ago
Hello.
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Arabhacks 7 months ago
Using the phone has nothing to do with it, proven fact.
Due to concerns over cancer, the power levels of cellphones were brought down, way down, to the point that cellphones are now intrinsically safe by the very nature.
Now, look again, right hand just before the large flames, cigarette lighter, that is why he switched the phone to his left hand.
Look carefully at his pipe and you will see why they took off so quickly, crack pipe.
Arabhacks 7 months ago
@Arabhacks
You are working for the telecom industry?
Either way your statements are so BS.. except for the cigarette lighter.
ohmmeters 7 months ago
@Arabhacks And about proven facts, check this one out: watch?v=nyYCu2K-NYQ&feature=related
ohmmeters 7 months ago
1:00 ohhh fuk witch way to runn i kan scape this an leave mah friend or get ma sell busted an stay shiiiittt idkkk fukk in not blak enough to leave hahahhahaa
lamafiax3 7 months ago
balls! a 3v cellphone didnt do that. more likely static or a lighter
RogerHerhard 8 months ago
DAMN STREET RACERS!
baggy7981 8 months ago
you people are fucken stupid he is isolated from ground static is the ignition source here not a fucken cell phone its a wave not an electic charge
DrayBay 8 months ago
Love how he's pulling up his pants as he runs from the fire. LMAO
tomniemo216 8 months ago
Its simple, u come onto my forecourt with a mobile phone in your hand u will be told to get rid of it b4 i authorize your pump... Ppl just do it cos they think that no one is watching, and yes ive had dickheads on my fourcourt smoking, so ive shut down all the pumps and when everyone that is trying to pump fuel are all looking at me, i get on the P.A. saying.." sorry fokes ive had to shut the pumps down cos there is an fool on pump 2 that is smoking, once he gets rid of it ill reauthorize thanx
leviathon74 8 months ago
Carefully watch the guy on the back side of the car at 0:48 . Also take note the CCTV records video every few seconds .It skips a few seconds, then records a few seconds. So there's something you're not seeing after 0:48 and 0:50. It could be the phone, but I doubt it. It's probably the guy lighting a cigarette. I have seen people light cigarettes ate gas pumps at least a couple dozen times . That has to be the STUPIDEST thing anyone can do. Pure stupidity at it's finest!
MustangLX5point0 8 months ago
@MustangLX5point0 frames between 0:48 and 0:50 ARE NOT missing
MrKamakaze1 7 months ago
Static electricity! I would not drive that car. The guy has enough balls to come to the car and try to extinguish the fire after 20 or more second of fire.
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sirradiodude 9 months ago
wasnt caused by a cell phone...
Lostpaladdin 9 months ago
The dude lit a cigarette. Was not the phone. He passes a smoke to his buddy then lights his own and boom when he touches the pump
punkassfunk 9 months ago
I agree with kevinthenerd, it is such a joke that people actually believe the whole mobile phone myth.
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cappsie1 10 months ago
Nigga : bad reaction
gas station guy : good reaction
ggaudin1 10 months ago
Fame on!
newo82 10 months ago
IT you that dose it, By getting in the car and not grounding your self be for you grab gas handle,
bigdady69691 10 months ago
"I donno man it just blowed up"
osink001 10 months ago
what an IDIOT.
chin4m4n38 11 months ago
I'm an engineer. He went inside and came back out without grounding himself. The cell phone had nothing to do with this, and it's shameful that ignorance leads to policymaking.
kevinthenerd 11 months ago
@kevinthenerd It always does
SlayerofFiction 10 months ago
Wat a tool!
stuartcraigon2003 11 months ago
Static electricity caused this...not his cell phone! The title of this video is misleading and based on ignorance.
OccuTec 1 year ago
RUN.!....!!!! GOO FAST!!!
deyvid139 1 year ago
The cell phone has nothing to do with static electricity. The reason there's a "no cell phone" sign is because of ignorance and myths.
GigsVT 1 year ago
He should be near a bomb in Afghanistan, where the bombs are activated by the reaction of the static electricity from your cellphone....Lol
zackfdz 1 year ago 7
@zackfdz not static electricity, EMP
retardification1 6 months ago
I think he want press red button but press wrong to red button... lol
mlcmingliang 1 year ago
dumb black guy
shidoski 1 year ago
Expensive phone call!
James1toknow 1 year ago
touch the nozzle the metal tip of the pump. the gas pump itself. the car. or anything metal even yourself to relieve of static electricity.
MileyCyrus192 1 year ago
I was just reading about static electricity and other dangers. Sure enough youtube has videos of it. XD
nocoercion 1 year ago
Is it okay to drive off right after your gas tank was lit on fire? O_o"
R4inyDayz 1 year ago
Every time I go to the gas station, I see morons like this! When are people going to learn that grabbing that phone call is not worth your life!!
bulldog31960 1 year ago
now he'll call 911!and blow the station!
ashokgadeking1 1 year ago
He pulled the nozzle out of the tank, which I heard is a no-no.
Toni7859 1 year ago
And I bet he will still answer the phone..
wgegan 1 year ago
I would run like hell!
SwedenZooFilm 1 year ago
well i bet he won't do that again
lucidfail 1 year ago
Cell phones don't cause fires at the pump, static electricity does. you'd have to be a complete moron to believe that cell phones are the cause of those fires.
chillardbee 1 year ago
@chillardbee the phone was prolly charged in his opket or somthing when he toughed the car boom!
lucidfail 1 year ago
@chillardbee You're mistaken, both the electronics inside a cell phone in the right condition AND static electricity can ignite fuel vapors when they are in the right concentration, temperature and when the energy from the cell phone or static discharge is sufficient. However the energy from a cell phone is not STATIC electricity. It appears they are considering ANY hidden energy that does not produce a visible spark as "static electricity"....like some kind of voodoo, but it is not.
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
The recommendation not to use cellphones while operating a gasoline pump can be summed up in one word: LAWYERS.
The energy from a phone that you refer to are radio frequency emissions. RF emission is inherent with any electronic device, including the electronics in the gasoline pump.
Although a cellular phone must emit RF at a sufficient amplitude to work in the manner that's intended, the amplitude necessary for the emission to be an ignition source is too low.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 Nevertheless there is enough current inside the cell phone which is NOT intrinsically safe to cause ignition of the fuels, the RF emissions notwithstanding. Earlier someone mentions there isn't enough current in the cell phone battery to create an arch..certainly there IS enough and more than enough. We are only surmising here, but it IS a fact that any one of several sources could have caused the ignition, The phone's RF energy, the electronics within, static from removing the n
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST "Nevertheless there is enough current inside the cell phone which is NOT intrinsically safe to cause ignition of the fuels"
But, the current has to be a source of ignition somehow, and it can be from one of two ways: it gets hot enough or it throws a spark.
"Earlier someone mentions there isn't enough current in the cell phone battery to create an arch"
Actually, that isn't technically correct. Current is measured by amps. The ability to arc is figured by potential: volts.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
A cell phone battery is usually around the 3 VDC range; not very high and certainly not high enough potential to create even small sparks without directly shorting the battery terminals.
Microwave emission can cause sparks with exposure to various materials like metals, but the amplitude of the microwave range in the EM spectrum has to be HIGH. How high? Like that of a microwave oven.
A cell phone signal doesn't come anywhere close to that level of amplitude for the emissions.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
Static electricity is the most likely explanation for this incident. The people involved moved around unnecessarily during the operation of the gasoline pump, which can cause a build up of static charge. This is exacerbated if the ambient humidity of the environment is very low.
The static discharge will have VERY little current behind it, but the potential will be measured as a few thousand volts. That potential is what will throw a spark when you touch a grounded metal object.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
Conversely, the fact that a human body static discharge has extremely low current behind it is the reason why you merely feel a sudden snap of discomfort, maybe even a small sting, rather than suffering from involuntary muscle contractions or a heart fibrillation.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 But most likely the static discharge is not felt throughout the body because the body is somewhat conductive compared to the skin and air gap that the arch crosses over. The arc is perceived by the nerves closest to the point where it arcs and not throughout the muscles because it transitions smoothly through that area. The same reason you don't feel the energy in the body that an ECG measures. Heart Fibrillation? Again no current near the SA node.
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST "But most likely the static discharge is not felt throughout the body because the body is somewhat conductive compared to the skin and air gap that the arch crosses over"
First, it's arc, not arch.
Again, electricity will always flow to ground. If the potential is high enough, the charge will arc to ground if the gap is narrow enough to permit the discharge. The discharge can be felt where the arc occurs, but its effects on the body can be greater with higher current.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
The use of a phone does not really have any influence in the likelihood of building up static electricity.
A low humidity environment, such as what you may get with winter weather, present a higher risk of static discharge than cell phone use.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
The rules to prevent static discharge: (important point capitalized)
1. Touch any grounded metallic object first before operating pump.
2. STAY WITH PUMP NOZZLE WHILE FUELING AND AVOID UNNECESSARY MOVEMENT UNTIL FUELING IS COMPLETE AND NOZZLE IS PLACED BACK IN HOLDER.
You may have noticed the person was walking around the car and then he walks back to the nozzle. That's enough to build up static charge that may ignite gas fumes. Cellphone use may be coincidental in this case.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 Okay you make a good point, the cell phone use MAY be coincidental. One thing to note is when this took place, winter or summer? Temperature and the like. But MY point I'm making is the cell phone is not inducing or creating STATIC, the clothes he is wearing and the materials on his seat is. But the best thing to do is a bare handed touch to the car or hose NOT in the area of the nozzle/open fuel filling point before comming in contact with the nozzle is a very good idea.
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
"But the best thing to do is a bare handed touch to the car or hose NOT in the area of the nozzle/open fuel filling point before comming in contact with the nozzle is a very good idea."
Of course, though you shouldn't have to worry about it if you discharge yourself first before ever operating the pump and staying with the pump nozzle at all times until after you put the nozzle away and cap the fuel tank.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
"One thing to note is when this took place, winter or summer? Temperature and the like"
Well, the concern with seasons is not necessarily because of temperature, but ambient humidity.
If you live in the southeast, such as Florida, the humidity is so high during the summertime that static electricity in the outdoors is almost unheard of. However, during the winter, the air is drier (low humidity) owing to the colder temperatures.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
Locations in the inter-mountain region of western USA have low humidity all year long as the terrain tends to block air coming in from the oceans.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
Respond to this video... PS another reason to not use the cell phone like you said, the lack of situational awareness it causes many and the fact that we tend to walk around while doing it.
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST
That is good advice not to as it can cause a distraction, though with that in mind, I have a greater concern when one is texting while driving.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 Yes but he TOUCHES the nozzle assembly which at that point should safely dissipate the static energy into the pumping apparatus. The danger is when you are moving the nozzle TOWARDS the vehicle and the energy from you and the pump apparatus combined or the vehicle transfers such that the potential energy transfer (arc) is also proximal to the optimal vapor/air mixture for combustion. You should also note that if the tank filler area is in proper condition the fire should not burn
OliviaSST 1 year ago
@OliviaSST "Yes but he TOUCHES the nozzle assembly which at that point should safely dissipate the static energy into the pumping apparatus."
And the location of the nozzle? If the nozzle is in the gas tank inlet, that's a source of fumes which can propagate from that location in the midst of pumping.
Further, touching the nozzle doesn't automatically mean you discharge static electricity; the nozzle body can sometimes be covered in a rubber shroud and the nozzle lever can be made of plastic.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST "You should also note that if the tank filler area is in proper condition the fire should not burn"
Once the cap for the tank has been taken off and you are pumping fuel, there is enough ventilation to permit fumes to escape.
When you pump gas, if you notice gasoline fumes, even just slightly, then that can be a hazard merely requiring an ignition source to set if off. That's why gas is so volatile; even a small amount of fumes can burn readily in a normal environment once ignited.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@OliviaSST In the right condition? There is no "right condition". The battery of a cell phone does not hold enough amps to even create a spark, static or otherwise.
Crumper00 1 year ago
@chillardbee Thats true, but try to explain that to those idiots. They just tell you the most fucking dumbest theories they created in their heads....
nakkion 1 year ago
Maybe hiring some fucking people to work at the gas station will make less people starve to death , and fewer deaths?
gazzxr 1 year ago
Hey, he didn't pay for the gas! It was all a trick to get free gas!
TheMrBlinx 1 year ago
I bet the employee was panicking because that wasn't in the employee handbook.
dalecanonrock 1 year ago
Yes, a cell phone indirectly caused this fire. Instead of holding the phone he should put put his left hand on the roof first... Get a blue tooth instead.
bravecat100 1 year ago
Thank god that tanker left or everyone would be fucked.
LeonScottKennedy999 1 year ago
who cares about static and phones this video is really really gay and pointless. anything happening could have been ALOT worse
Necronomicomedian 1 year ago
It has been proven there is no way ANY cellular phone devise can create a sufficient static electrical field to spark or ignite a fireball. All cell phone batteries are equipped w/a safety feature along w/the phone itself not allowing the emission of static to this magnitude. The highest power achieved or peak derives from either an incoming or outgoing call. Lower power is used for sustained conversations on the devise.
emauriceharr 1 year ago
@emauriceharr dumb fuck
MrDirkdigla1 1 year ago
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emauriceharr 1 year ago
@mrwaynesclass Yes but the phone doesn't always pick up static from the air, dependant upon what the phone is doing and how much static there is in the air (ie how close you are to an object creating static.
nordlinger1 1 year ago
@Firewallz3 The phone picks up static electricity from the air and surrounding objects and by touching the phone these are passed to you. When you touch the car the static is passed onto the car and creates a static spark between the car and the metal end of the fuel pump and ignights the petrol and/or the petrol fumes. Simple. There is a reason behind the "no mobile phones" signs, people don't just put them up for the hell of it!
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rebelliouseoagj 1 year ago
That's why u don't use a phone in the petrol station! READ THE SIGNS!!!
nordlinger1 1 year ago
@nordlinger1 Lol thts for a different reason... this had nothing to do with the phone
Firewallz3 1 year ago
This is nothing to do with a cell phone. That's just a myth. Load of cr@p..
stlee74 1 year ago
O,O at first when the tanker drove past through the gas station, im like "HOLY FUCK, some messed up shit is gonna- oh...well nevermind. it passed through with no problem (WHEW)" xD
TribalKing917 1 year ago
I don belive he still dare to drive his car lol...
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urgencyharviefcem 1 year ago
looks to me like he lit a cigarette
static won't do it
dieyoubastards 1 year ago
@dieyoubastards yes it does....
tokeapi420 1 year ago
i would grab extinguisher straight away
bombermanas1 1 year ago
I'm a tech and cell phone doesn't cause a charge your clothes rubbing together, especially loose clothes cause the static
bgdomino 1 year ago
I cant stand Mike Norkus. His website is norkusmediagroup com . He is a big con artist and lier.
vine15five 1 year ago
At least he didn't pull the pump hose out, that could have made things much worse.
esteban2106 1 year ago
@esteban2106 He did pull out the pump hose didn't you see it that is why it spread more.
danger7x7 1 year ago
Its been proven that cell phones cannot cause explosions even in the perfect set up. Just watch Mythbusters they have proven it with a room full of gas/oxygen and a cell phone ringing/talking no boom there so this was caused strickly by some one not touching there car when they slide there ass out the seat. Easy to avoid just when ever you get out your car put your hand on the frame as you get up you remove all charge from you and you don't burn your car up.
JrockerForLife 1 year ago 12
@JrockerForLife Reason why they ban cellphone use is because it might mess up the airplanes ability to fly, and it will crash straight into the gas station.
saik0pod 11 months ago 24
@saik0pod mythbuster.. busted both.. cellphones and airplanes and gas station...
iTrollThis 7 months ago
@saik0pod Right, but unfortunately a good 20% ignore the warnings and "sneak" the use of their electronic devices ANYWAY while the flight attendants aren't looking. This is the mentality of the modern day, in a fucking bubble for reality.
9b8 6 months ago
@JrockerForLife haha thats what i do and thought i was the only one :)
fpvshitsonhsv 9 months ago
@JrockerForLife
older mobile phones COULD cause explosions. It happened to a bloke in one of our factories. he left his phone in his pocket while in an explosive enviroment. someone called him. BOOM. he is no longer with us.
Newer mobile phones are made and used in a different way. not sure of the whole science of it, but it basically means they are more intrinsically safe in exsplosive enviroments.
manofthehour1980 9 months ago
@JrockerForLife
First, you can't prove a negative. Second, they won't have tried all the different models on the market. Third, they say a mobile can't generate a spark, but mobile phones use a dc motor for the vibrate function, and dc motors generate sparks. Fourth, a loose wire or malfunction can cause sparks; dendrites forming in lithium batteries can short them causing a fire.
Five, yeah, I agree, this has nothing to do with the phone. ;-)
Belgianmeth 8 months ago
@Belgianmeth the thing that does not make sense is the fact that there are literary thousands of ignition sources right next to the gas pump, if a tiny spark like the one generated inside a phone could set off an explosion, what prevents the exhaust, engine, brakes, lights on the roof and car, etc, setting it off as well?
asshatnowhere159 8 months ago
@asshatnowhere159
You're right, a mobile is a very unlikely ignition source compared to others (especially static electricity). I reacted mainly because of the mythbusters reference, that show is definitely not an authoritative source. I remember the chicken cannon, one of them saying frozen or thawed made no difference because the energy stayed the same... omg...
Belgianmeth 8 months ago
@Belgianmeth yeah, mythbusters cant always be the source of scientific proof.
asshatnowhere159 8 months ago
Fake and gay
taylorwilliamm 1 year ago
damn monkeys.
LizzyAston 1 year ago
why didnt he press the red button?
rysliv 1 year ago 14
@rysliv LMAO! That would have put the fire out!
brysonz 1 year ago
@rysliv what red botton??????????? i didnt no there was a red botton! :S
Jacobshandxox 10 months ago
cellphone was not the source of "static" electricity, the battery can't deliver that kind of amperage, the anti cellphone people are just really ignorant of science.
livabord 1 year ago
whats that button between the popout button and video quality button.
Ajboy369 1 year ago
the phone does some kind of static electrictiy under the gas stand lucky that the hole gas staion didin't blow up
Xxmanhunt1Xx 1 year ago
What a great friend leaving his friend there who had a chance of dying,
benso9c 1 year ago
@benso9c Went for fire extinguisher and didn't see the one mounted near the pumps.
junkymagi 1 year ago
@benso9c Watch it closer, the guy in the blue shirt was the one pumping and running for help inside. The other guy was on the far side of the car.
Wasn't going to explode either. Not enough oxygen in the tank and fire was not heating the tank to "cook off" temperature, went out far too quickly.
junkymagi 1 year ago
why didnt he go for the fire extinguisher?
nuclearthreat545 1 year ago
I wonder who called him?
MrCenterdeal 1 year ago
Strange the amount of people think fire estinguishers and buckets of sand at fuel pumps are just there for decoration! And the don't use mobile phones/no smoking signs!!!
closertofiftythanyew 1 year ago
hahahaha the fire was out before they even got the fir extinguisher
youroncrack1 1 year ago
driving a burnt car lol
jamin108 1 year ago
lol
itachi3835351 1 year ago
If a cellphone shall ignite a vapor cloud it needs to be held inside the small volume that contains a explosive concentration and even then it probably needs to be malfunctioning in some way. Most of us has experienced spark discharges after exiting the car and then touching it. These are also capable of igniting the vapor.
ulfpe 1 year ago
my dad saw someguy smokeing at the gas station he was pumping gas at.
Rambowookie 1 year ago
@Rambowookie I saw it before too, dangerous
CarlChongKC 1 year ago
Did he die?
lazeta99 1 year ago
the clerk was claim during the whole thing
248492 1 year ago
much more likely the spark was caused by his clothing
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flymarvin 1 year ago
it has nothing to do with the fact he was on the phone, he touched the car next to the lid of the tank and if he had any static from his seat then he just completed a circuit. static caused the fire, not his phone -.-
GrifCannon90 1 year ago
Quand on est con, insouciant et suffisant à ce point, il n'arrive que ce qu'on mérite. Dommage qu'ils n'aient pas brûlé avec leur flamme qu'ils ont créée. Deux indésirables et dangereux de moins pour la planète. Et çà c'est pas volé !
Perfolactil 1 year ago
HAHahha used an extinguisher on such a small fire! Good luck fuel filter is going to clog!
Jed118 1 year ago
When there is only a little flame at the mouth of the tank, why would you blast an exstinguisher into the hole.
Just tamp it out. The exstinguisher dust in the gas can ruin an engine.
BugABugABug 1 year ago
Pas étonnant avec 2 singes pareils juste bons qu'à pavoiser avec leur face, leur voiture de frime et leur téléphone portable volé. Les macaques devraient être interdits de cité, vu leur vocation à mettre le monde en danger. GO AWAY, MONKEYS ! PLEASE MONKEYS, DIE FAST AND FAR, UGLY APES WITHOUT RESPECT ! ( For a free world without these assholes ).
Perfolactil 1 year ago
@Perfolactil
T'as une preuve que le portable est volé ?
Juges pas sur les apparences.
Toute personne est innocente jusqu'à preuve du contraire
malagaschy 1 year ago
0:58 I GOTTA FIND BUBBA!!!
Hotrodx199 2 years ago 8
0:58 he's going back to the car??? RUN FORREST RUUUUUUUN!!!
Olon1980 2 years ago 2
thats crazy
raychellewade 2 years ago
So funny his friend just runs away into the darkness haha
timmy2teef 2 years ago 2
Static electricily has NOTHING to do with cell phones, it has EVERYTHING to do with clothing! Cell phones DO NOT /CANNOT create a spark, PERIOD!
Crumper00 2 years ago 2
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yeah dude, then those who put the cell phone forbidden signs in the petrol stations all over the world are totally idiots
instead they should put signs to ban the female use of any kind of clothes while refuelling their cars and some other signs to ban you wanking through the pocket while refuelling and watching the naked women
trex0911 2 years ago
IT diesnt take a brainiac to see that is NOT a cell phone, As for safety signs, I AM a Safety Engineer and the no smoking signs are NOT all over the world. As for a antenna that picks up static??? You need to take an electronics class because you sound like an idiot. And YES, polyester as an outer clothing HAS been banned in MOST NATURAL GAS REFINERIES in north America for causing fires.
Crumper00 2 years ago 4
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LOL I'm astonished to know that you ever graduated high school and is HILARIOUS to know that a dumb fuck Safety Engineer recommends others to ignore some warning or forbidden signs. I can hold you physics lessons any time grandpa, but I'm sure you can prove us wrong by holding your cell phone over a metal bucket full of petrol and attempting or receiving some calls (let's say 100 just to be sure), then post the video on youtube and you will prove us how you can become a very hot man (literally)
trex0911 2 years ago
Your an ASS. I've never claimed to ignore safety signs.. just that the video posted here is a lie and that it is NOT a cell phone the worker is holding, nor is it what started the fire. You assume too much and are just plain ignorant. Picking up a static signal and creating a static spark are NOT the same thing... and all those that read this can accept the fact that you didn't know the difference. You can iether go read a book and learn something, or babble on with cursing. either way, I WIN!
Crumper00 2 years ago 4