I live in Scotland,i am scottish.2 years ago i went to the memorial in Dunblane for these children...ah it was overwhelming..sadness.Never forget that day..march 1996..we had snow,it came on the car radio.
Well that'd just be a bummer. Although I still think guns that aren't semi-auto or concealable should be legal (if fairly restricted) but on the whole I think its selfish to have that attitude especially if its the difference between a life and you "just enjoying guns"
@gotsda I live in a state and city in America were anyone over 21 can conceal carry a handgun without a permit. Our crime rate is amongst the lowest in the country. The cities and states with most restrictive gun laws, out right bans in some cases, have the highest crime rate. When seconds count, cops are just minutes away. Unless you are on cell phone, then probably about an hour. Also, most mass shootings happen in "gun free zones". Meaning law abiding citizens were left defenseless.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Your completely overlooking the fact that if guns where banned country wide then taking guns into Gun free zones wouldnt be a problem.
"The cities and states with most restrictive gun laws, out right bans in some cases, have the highest crime rate" No. This is a lie.
I'm guessing your city has low poverty because your completely missing the murder rates in ghettos almost all murders there are caused by shootings.
If noone has guns guncrime isnt a problem circular arguement
New york, Washington D.C., Chicago, Detroit. Most violent cities in America with the most restrictive gun laws.I challenge you to prove me wrong. Until 1990 my City was was one of the smallest in America, with one of the highest crime rates. In 1992 we passed conceal carry laws, and the crime rate went down in 2009 we passed laws that said law abiding citizens could carry with out a permit. The crime rate continued to drop.
@gotsda Country wide bans dont work, look at the U.K., they banned handguns in 1995-6, now London has more violent attacks then johannesburg, South Africa(you will probably say this is a lie, I got these statistics from NATO). If you outlaw guns, only out laws will have them. We have seen this time and time again, in Australia, U.K., Mexico,Brazil. What about Switzerland, they have more guns in private hands then America, and VERY little crime. No criminal is gonna attack an armed person
@TheBelowAverageG4mer You got the statistics from NATO? Yet you didn't supply me with a source?
Criminals do attack people who are armed, look at Ghettos, look at how more police are shot in America than in the Uk.
Switzerland is very affluent that is why there are very low gun crime rates derp. I'm guessing where you live it is very affluent hence a low crime rate.
Guns don't cause crimes, but they do escalate the violence in them, I'd rather be mugged twice than shot.
@gotsda The source was NATO, google it. I live in an average area, there are rich parts and poor parts. But by no means very affluent. You brought up there are more people in London than Johannesburg thats why you have more crime, well in America we have a lot more cops than you do in England, thats why they get shot more. Statistics from the FBI found people are 10 times more likely to survive muggings if instead of producing wallet they produce a firearm.
@gotsda Dont bother responding, I can see I will never change your mind, you will never change mine. I own guns, I carry guns, I will always carry guns.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer You can't even answer my arguements, look guns are okay if everyone who has them is responsible and not about to go rob a shop, like what its like where you live most probably.
But in Ghetto's slums etc, guns along with drugs are the worst thing that could be available.
And all these statistics you've given me are reported crimes, so in reality it just shows how much of Johannesburg is an unpoliced mess.
@gotsda You basically want the shooters to be punished for a mentally ill peadophole. Forget ghettos - you'll find licenses aren't issued in crime ridden areas. There is close to a million people in the UK with shotgun/firearms licenses. Most of whom own more than one gun. I bought one from someone who owns hundreds.
We've had a relative handfull of deaths in the last 30 years. You really think letting these model citizens have handguns again will cause more unhinged gun rampages?
@ColonelAllan Admittedly, I see where your coming from in terms of why one type of gun should be allowed and others shouldn't. I live near to where Derrick Bird went on a rampage (actually know people who knew him) and I admit that shotguns are dangerous, and I also think the checks on shotguns are rigorous enough.
Personally I'd like no individual to own a gun (a club where multiple people have to be present to access them would be a consideration) but this isn't feasable.
@ColonelAllan I know a guy in Whales who has lots of center fire rifles, and shotguns that hold more than 2 shots. Of course he could just be talking shit, I have never seen them. But he is this old dude, and he said he had AK's and AR's and mini-14's from the 70's and 80's before Hungerford. He also said he owns several handguns, that he didnt turn in during the great gun grab of 1996. But again, he could be making it all up, I have no way of knowing
@TheBelowAverageG4mer All possible. Semi autos were legal before Hungerford. Bolt action rifles are still legal. You can still own AR15s and AK47s believe it or not. They have been crippled so they don't cycle and you have to rack the slide after each shot. Look up "Straight Pull AR 15". May as well be semi auto if you ask me. Certainly faster firing, more compact and much higher capacity than a bolt action rifle and more accuracy at range than "banned" handguns. Ludicrous.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Something else you might find amusing. Look up "long barrel revolvers" We can still have those on a firearms certificate. Since the barrel is so long it isn't classed as a handgun, but the caliburs are massive. .357 .44 .50. They also have to have a wristbrace made of wire to make them that bit longer. They're supposed to stop a law abiding citizen robbing a bank or pulling a Dunblaine. Cont.
@ColonelAllan I have heard about the straight pull AR's but never about the Long barrel revolvers, I thought only veterinarians were allowed hand guns, of course I got that info from Top Gear, probably not the best resource for UK firearms laws lol.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer If you can convince the law here that you absolutely need a handgun for some express purpose they can grant legal ownership of one. Generally people who own a lot of land. They kind of take on the role of a "ranger" and need a handgun in the event that they might have to humanely dispatch a wounded animal when a shotgun or a rifle isn't applicable. Don't watch much Top Gear but Clarkson is a smart arsed cunt so he's probably right.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Ze Germans get it worse. I ask the anti gunners why the scumbags should have handguns but not the shooting community (who don't commit any crime)? Then they normally say they want all guns banished from history/planet or something. Or the manufacture of them should end. They don't seem to realise how simple they are to make/mass produce. They'd still effectively have the law abiding public disarmed and leave the criminals to it. Irrational (stupid?)
@ColonelAllan Yeah, whenever there is tragedy here people always start screaming about banning guns, so they want to punish EVERYONE for 1 crazy persons actions. But it never goes far, we had an assault weapons ban in the mid 90's to mid 2000's crime rate went up during that time, and when Bush let it expire in mid 2000's(only good thing he did lol) the crime rate dropped, and that was a country wide statistic not just one state. Bad guys dont care about laws!!
@ColonelAllan Only good people follow the law, well, to a certain extent, I would never turn my guns in, or submit to registration. So, IF that were to ever come to my state, yeah I guess I would be an "outlaw" because I would not comply.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer There was a vicar here who got a few years for having a Luger in his grandfather clock a few years back. Just the fact that he kept it loaded was enough. A vicar. Old chap probably enjoyed pulling the slide back and cycling rounds though it admiring the engineering from time to time.
@ColonelAllan Thats terrible, I heard about a soldier who found a gun in his garden or on a walk or something, anyway, he notified the police and was arrested on weapons charges. I thought that was crazy.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Doesn't surprise me. Safe custody of a gun being classed as possession. Ridiculous. More people realise it the better. Anyway. Pleasant evening buddy. Tearing into the antigun rationale made me tired. Take care now.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer So handguns are banned but you can still be Dirty Harry here. What's interesting is if someone suddenly felt the urge to start committing gun crime, 5 mins with a hacksaw and it would be concealable again. That would be breaking the law though, so maybe they'd rethink robbing that bank or shooting that cheeky taxi driver. That's what the wire stock is for and the extra length. Very effective.
@ColonelAllan Lets not forget that criminals dont buy their guns in shops, they buy them from other criminals. From what I understand, England has a ton of Coast line(this is a joke, I know its an Island), lots of opportunity to sneak shit into the country. Just like the heroin trade, they bring it over in speed boats across the channel.
@gotsda I answered your arguments, you have an idea of poor areas from movies and Music, I have lived in "ghettos" I grew up the only white kid in my area, saw people dead in the streets from drug od's. and I can tell you from first hand experience, if you have a gun, criminals go somewhere else. Unless you are criminal and the criminals are coming at you for some sort of revenge. You cant keep guns out of hands of bad guys, all you can do is arm yourself and even the playing field.
@TheBelowAverageG4mer No you didn't so far you've answered one, and I'd even call that into question.
You actually danced around what I had to say and said "Dont bother responding, I can see I will never change your mind, you will never change mine. I own guns, I carry guns, I will always carry guns." because you couldn't answer my questions, and which statistics did you get and which Ghetto where you from?
@gotsda You've been pwned madam. There is no good reason to toughen gun laws and many good reasons why they shouldn't be tough in the first place. The stats are well known and accepted by rational people who know what they are talking about. Ghettos are irrelevant. The million law abiding gun owners don't commit any crime or go around "pray and spraying" kebab shops. I'd wager you don't know any and your fear of inanimate objects is based on some Vin Diesel film you've seen.
I know where I can buy a fully working gun perfectly legally in the UK because it's an "antique" so it would be a crime against British heritage to remove the firing pin or conver to blanks only.
Not once has any heritage firearm been used in a murder and that has contributed to the status of the firearms. Although when has a legal firearm been used in a murder? Even in America where guns are mostly legal the overwhelming majority of firearm crimes are commited with illigal weapons.
When will people realize that outlawing something doesn't make it go away? On most US college campuses guns are illegal, so law abiding citizens who will only use them properly don't carry them, but those that are going to do evil don't care about those laws,so all of the weapons are in the hands of the bad people. If guns were legal on college campuses,even if not a single person had one, people planning to do bad would think twice because someone might just have a gun and kill or main them 1st
@qwerty112311 I get what your saying, laws aren't meant to always be followed. They are just there so, that we don't just dissolve into chaos. if there were not any laws at all that simple mild manored store clerk might just go out and murder someone. The laws are in place so we keep that number of ordinary people away from becoming chaotic monkeys.
@qwerty112311 But if you make them that easy to access as they are in America obviously people are gonna be able to sneak them in. Guns shouldnt be in anyones hands (without a purpose)
i HAVE HEARD FROM POLICE OFFICERS WHO GO TO MY GUN CLUB WHO HAVE TOLD ME A TOTALY DIFFERENT STORY OF WHAT REALLY OCURED THAT DAY COMPARED TO WHAT THE GOVEMENT AND TV HAS STATED.... IF EVERY ONE CARRIED A HAND GUN LIKE THE TEACHER COULD OF SHOT HIM DED BEFORE HE COULD OF DONE MORE DAMAGE... WE WILL HAVE ARE HAND GUNS BACK AND THE PEOPLE WILL BE MORE SAFE THAN THEY ARE NOW
As Bad as The Dunblane Massacre was. Weeks after Dunblane Martin Bryant's Port Arthur Massacre In Hobart Australia would be the worse mass killing ever committed by a lone gunman To Date In Which 35 people were killed and 21 others badly wounded. After The Port Arthur Massacre all Militray Style Firearms were banned from Commercial Sale and the Australian Goverment Brought them all back. However it hasn't stopped Bikie Gangs or gangsters getting them over here in Australia and using them.
it's sicken how hate and evilness is all over the world ;0( i wish someone could of stopped that bastard, get behind him, hit him over the head with a large metal object and then beat the sh*t out of him. what a selfish person to take young babies lives like that.
Just imagine one of your truly ordinary days and some guy at a completely random time just banging the door open and coming towards you. How much time would you have to even register him let alone think about what he's doing?The terrifying twats of the world.
an odd thing i noticed about this piece is that there is not as much information given about the killer compared to other true crime documentary's, however i found if the the video is about the killer instead of the crime it can justify or excuse (to a degree) the seriousness of what has happened, thanks for uploading
Just thought I'd chime in. A lot of inanimate object fearing people here. These people want more government involvement? They'd have the corners filed off everything and everything wrapped in foam for the purpose of "safety" if we let them. LOL. Big government run teletubby land. Wouldn't that be nice?
Yeah, ur SO right. Nuclear weapons don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people! Damn BIG GOVT won't let me keep my own atomic weapons for personal safety. It's a travesty of my freedoms!
Even if guns become completely outlawed for civilians and manufacturers can only legally supply military and police. There'll still be illegal manufacture of guns. From an engineering standpoint they're relatively simple machines. The ammunition relatively simple chemistry and tubing. The trade will go underground, garage and basement workshops will then supply criminal demand. Sorry.
Think about it. A catch released, spring loaded pin, and a metal tube; A basic 'gat', perfect for when someone disses you. It's like trying to ban knives. How can you stop someone making a sharp object?
And that's only a basic 'gun'. Someone with engineering skills could make repeating, accurate weapons; They could add rifling to the barrel (by cutting a spiral shape inside it) They could utilise blowback ejector mechanisms so that when the first round is fired the slide blows back and pulls out the empty (cocking the firing pin in the process), chambering a fresh cartridge when returning back to it's original position. Tubes, springs and catches cannot be banned. Example Stengun = Simplicity.
@ColonelAllan Even if guns DID become comepletely outlawed for civilians , having illegal small underground workshops wouldnt be nearly as bad as having gun shops everywhere.
while the Dunblane massacre was terrible,the knee jerk legislation that followed banning handguns in the hope of winning more votes was utter stupidity.Sport shooters lost a hobby and many lost the means to protect themselves,family and property.There have been far worse multiple murders since Dunblane where if just one person had access to their own firearm could have saved the lives of many.With ever increasing armed violent crime we are all sitting ducks against an armed assailant.
@silver760 In the event of any of us facing an armed intruder we will all be long dead by the police arrive.Even in situations where the police have gotten to a scene with an armed criminal they will not enter the building.As drug dealing and drug use increases so does the number of illegal firearms,the dealers use them to protect themselves,drugs and money.Drug users use firearms to commit crime in order to feed their habit.The Cumbrian shooter could have been stopped if one person had a gun.
a) I somehow doubt that Hamilton could have caused the same kind of carnage with a rolling pin... but don't let mere fact get in the way of your "logic"
b) The citizens vs rogue governments is one of the stupidest arguments I have EVER heard. A group of civilians and shooting club members vs a highly trained mechanized military armed with drones, jet fighters and a satellite targeting system etc. We're not living in the 18th century.
Gun control is an emotional response to a social problem. Sure, ban all guns, then when people switch to knives, ban all knives. Then when people start killing with screwdrivers, ban all screwdrivers. Baseball bats, frying pans, ropes, rolling pins, etc. You see where it goes? A killer is going to reach for the first available weapon, gun control isn't going to end killing. It's the person that's the problem, not the tool he uses to kill.
@Dr1Canuckchuck What you said is just absolute shit. Do you think school massacres can be achieved by someone rolling in with a baseball bat? The death toll would reach about 1 or 2 before the attacker was simply bombarded by bystanders whereas if the attacker has a fully automatic machine gun in his hand then their targets are much easier to kill. Take your NWA shit elswhere.
@Rewnskeyp OK, 1st of all, I don't know what NWA means. 2nd, so you're saying school massacres are the only time anyone uses a gun? And because guns are only ever used to kill people during school massacres we should ban guns? You're an idiot.
@Rewnskeyp There have probably been less than 10 occasions world-wide when there has been a mass shooting like this one, contrasted with the hundreds of thousands of occasions per year that require the legitimate use of a gun by law-abiding citizens protecting themselves from this type of nutbar, as well as the responsibility of ALL citizens to possess a gun to protect themselves from rogue governments. So, you think those 10 occasions justify banning all guns forever?
@Rewnskeyp Here in Canada we've had gun control since 1976. In 1999 we had the Taber school shooting 8 days after the Columbine shooting. Ya, gun control is the answer, alright. I think your rose-coloured glasses are fogged up.
@Dr1Canuckchuck I swear the whole YT community is fucking retarded. Your point was that if we stop guns then people will just resort to other means of weapons such as baseball bots and frying pans etc. Was it not? Yes it was. I can tell you're not very bright because you've completely ignored my point. Anyway you never said anything about the Taber shootings you simply stated that if we remove guns people will always have other ways to cause harm. I'm saying that a baseball bat is going to cause
@Rewnskeyp not nearly the same amount of damage as a gun you fucking idiot. The comment you posted about frying pans and rolling pins was just complete shit. I'm not saying that if we have gun control that nobody will ever use a gun, I'm saying it's better to have people running around with frying pans than a fully automatic machine gun. My glasses aren't rose or fogged up you complete idiot.
Like any Brit, I know about this and was totally numbed by it at the time. And it was such a despicable crime against so many small children that it still shocks me just as much as it did when it happened every time I watch a documentary on it or read about it. May all the victims rest in peace and my thoughts go today to their families and all others who knew them..
Please stop and think before you make a negative comment here or a sick joke. This is about the murder of innocent children, If you cant respect children you are inhuman and have so little value of life. RIP to the children
Just to warn everyone, this documentary is incredibly dull. The whole thing is just depressing interviews with parents. It goes into very little detail about the events that took place, and it goes into absolutely no detail regarding the life of Thomas Hamilton.
@madhammudeux it goes into no details about the police cover up.hamilton was under police surveillance when he did this cause they had been tipped off,had been told to put men with guns on him but instead they did it their way &put normal undercover on him.3 weeks before he did this the police checked up on his legally owned collection of handguns and the officer said he was gloating. police said it was coincendental undercover police were at the school at the time of the shooting.
A better place?? What, rotting in the ground instead going on to live their lives? If murder victims go to a better place, why don't we just encourage mass murder as a positive public act?
And what the hell does this have to do with Palestine?? Are you telling me that every day in Palestine someone walks into a school in Gaza and blows away a load of children? Well even if they did, it's a wonderful thing, because dead children go to a better place right??
A better place?? What, rotting in the ground instead going on to live their lives? If murder victims go to a better place, why don't we just encourage mass murder as a positive public act?
And what the hell does this have to do with Palestine?? Are you telling me that every day in Palestine someone walks into a school in Gaza and blows away a load of children? Well even if they did, it's a wonderful thing, because dead children go to a better place right??
Complete and utter setup..Funny how someone can commit suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head...Political reaction..Ban handguns..A few wks later Australia had the Port Arthur Massacre...Same thing..Country disarmed...Look into it it and it will become as clear as day...
I have suddenly really begun to find myself attracted to English women & even celtics. I am part each, but never really felt this way before. Now I want to make a family with one of them. Is this a weird reaction? I don't know. I do not know...
I live in Dunblane. It is such a sad story. All of us in Dunblane are so sensitive to guns now. we have many memorials about the shootings.it is so sad. :*(
@MissDumyat according to reports he cut the phone lines of the school. so im guessing that they had to leave the grounds after they stopped hearing the shooting. Normally people run for help but im sure the adults were thinking about keeping the children safe
Nick North is a fucking moron how dare he use his experience to prevent law abiding citizens of the right to defend their own lives.Enjoying the profits from your book Mr North? because of scum like you this country is collapsing the morons have more rights than the average citizen.We are not allowed to defend ourselves!!!but the scum can do whatever they like! I hope you are very proud.
@Moonsorrow15 you said "they didn't ban handguns until the massacre dumbass" that does not make sense they banned them after if the banned them until the massacre the handguns would have been banned before the shootings DUMBASS!!!!
@WillShakespeare2007 you can buy a revolver for £100 of the streets and that will got in to the criminals pocket or if they where legal i could buy a revolver for £100 and then the money will go in to the economy witch would you rather have a criminal having my money or the economy and you don't understand it not about the guns it about our freedom
@traceradam - We have freedom to elect our members of parliament and it was by public demand that there was a ban on the sale of guns in the UK. Freedom of choice, and as a result there are 40 gun deaths each year in the UK and 35,000 in the USA.
Regarding buying illegal guns. Did you know the killed in Norway tried to buy illegal guns and even traveled to Prague. He failed and so joined a gun club until he could get the guns legally. You might know where to get guns 99% of people don't.
@WillShakespeare2007 I that true 40 deaths not according to the bbc "2007 the Met saw a 3.5% rise in firearms offences in London - up from 3,485 to 3,607 incidents. " and anybody can get the guns for cristsake you can buy them off the internet
@traceradam - Google "Britain records 18% fall in gun deaths" there were 42 gun deaths in the UK in 2009. Do you honestly think that would be the case if people had access to legal firearms? Of course not.
Statistics clearly show gun control works and that it is what the population wants. I don't want U.S. style school shootings thank you. I'm happy with gun control and believe there should be a minimum 10 year term for owning a gun. And remember most illegal guns started off legally somewhere.
@WillShakespeare2007 Started off legally do you know were these guns come? from Pakistan china mexico people in the uk can get ak47 mac10s they have never been legal labia hated the west so the sovietunion donated ak47s to Qaddafi and those ak47 where found in the hands of the ira but dont worry criminals love gun control it means that next time they brake it to you're house and try to kill you they know you will not be able to defend yourself
@traceradam - Yes of course those guns were legally produced. Where do you think they come from, the magical gun mines of Siberia?
There is no evidence whatsoever that people are safer with guns as you just claimed. But for the last time there is clear recorded statistics that the U.S. with no gun control has 35,000 death p/a. We have 40 death p/a clearly gun control works. The stats could not be more compelling.
@garysquirrelreviews - Those statistics are just nonsense as there has been no 70% drop in crime. The U.S. has a far higher murder rate than the U.K. because of guns.
Also please try to improve your English language skills as you are embarrassing my country.
@WillShakespeare2007 check your stats idiot. There were 8000 homicides in the US by gun violence. Not 35,000 idiot. This isn't Mexico. Also, the US has 8x the population than the UK
@WillShakespeare2007 the 8 x population was a typo-my mistake. I lived in the UK for 6 years in the 1970's. I have the utmost respect for the UK. We don't need more gun control here in the US-it's our society's ills that is the cause for the majority of gun violence. We have a right to carry a firearm here(barring a felony conviction,etc)
Guns make people feel powerful, emboldening them to act in circumstances they may of otherwise walked away from. Americans however choose to ignore this obvious fact, instead resorting to the logic. 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people'.
@madhammudeux this was a terrible tragedy, the americans are right, people kill people, these cowardly cold blooded killers never try to go into a gun club or a army barracks to kill people as they would be met by people with guns and would not live a minute.
@irishgeal1 a gun ban isn't the answer. a gun is only as dangerous as the fool holding it. i do believe in strict gun laws, and strict penalties for people who break those laws. i disagree with you a little bit, on the army barracks comment. some fool did go and attack fort hood a couple of years ago. he managed to kill a lot of people, before someone shot him. he's on trial now. i think when someone starts shooting at a crowd, they are in shock and take a while to react. i can't imagine
we will never really know what happened here on that day, Hamilton had links with police and politicians. his records remain a 100 year secret. they will not be opened and revealed for a LONG time, we must keep the memory alive so that one day we will know what really happened.
i was born on this exact day. and it makes me feel sick everytime i think of it. hamilton shouldnt have died then thats to easy. i would have TORTURED THE SICK TWISTED BUGGER by cutting limb by limb off
@dudeyabbie101 I used to think like you, and what he did was horrible but we should not be judge over people. I know that this upsets you, as so does it make me upset. but if you keep that hate then it will destroy you, for your own sake let the anger go. Don't let your anger and hatered make you like the monster who had done this. This goes for anyone else who thinks like this, let it go. I don't know if you believe in God but I do and I know he will get what's coming to him.
thomas hamilton is the biggest scum in the world, im very sorry hes dead... my biggest regret being that i would have happily spent hours punishing and torturing this sick, vile twat. i can honestly say id have made his last few hours the worst time a living thing could have had in life
you know what scarey about shit like this is it happens all around us in countrys like the middle east. i remember when columbine happened. i was like 16 at the time i was really freaked out then it hit me noone safe. i mean anyone can go on a rampage and take ur ass out...
i remember this and it was a total shock wave still deeply felt now!
there is no words to describe how bad this is and no one will understand the harshness like the survivors and relatives! my heart goes out to everyone affected!
They can never be sure of whether such a thing will happen again, handguns or not, but they have made sure that everyone decent has been effectively disarmed. Wow, I am impressed by that kind of "responsibility". Lt. Col. Cooper has once commented: "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Think about that for a moment, Snowdrop Campaign! Your unchallenged gun ban efforts have merely made live more easier for violent criminals. Congratulations!
@Karamojo7mm totally agree with you mate. it also doesnt help that the law always seems to favour the criminals rather than the victims who tried to defend themselves.
Okay, what do we have here? An armed madman wents to a school, a place where he knows for sure that he finds unarmed, defenseless victims. What does the people affected by this tragedy do afterwards, even the teacher who was first confronted by the gunman: lobbying for a handgun ban! What kinda logic is that?
@FixedNewsChannel Not horseshit.. The parents of the town complained that he was too strange and he was fired from being a Scout leader if I remember correctly. To get back at everyone for "ruining him" he chose to go to the public school and shoot their children because it was the sickest way he could get back at everyone. Of course he was an actual pedophile and already saw children as things to destroy and throw away after like it was nothing so it was easy for him to kill anyone.
I live in Scotland,i am scottish.2 years ago i went to the memorial in Dunblane for these children...ah it was overwhelming..sadness.Never forget that day..march 1996..we had snow,it came on the car radio.
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outlaws132 1 week ago
And he wonders why he wasn't allow to stay in the boys club anymore.
aznboi1027 1 week ago
I love the Scottish accent and would LOVE to visit one day!
googles1515 1 week ago
@googles1515 If you have Skype add me, I am Scottish ha!
rb1003 6 days ago
So many angry comments! Why bother, if you don't like or agree with what someone types why not just move on? Is it really worth it?
googles1515 1 week ago
Thomas is a fucking loser; may he burn in hell.
JustinYoelSkaat 1 week ago
@ColonelAllen
Well that'd just be a bummer. Although I still think guns that aren't semi-auto or concealable should be legal (if fairly restricted) but on the whole I think its selfish to have that attitude especially if its the difference between a life and you "just enjoying guns"
gotsda 3 weeks ago
@gotsda all gun s are bad you tdiot...
lestheo 3 weeks ago
@lestheo I'd love you trying to tell the Nazi's that.
Guns are a neccesary evil in many situations, however having them easily within reach of the public is just irresponsible.
gotsda 3 weeks ago
@lestheo Trolling trolls are obvious... (and can't spell apparently)
ryuuartist 3 weeks ago
@lestheo Guns make a polite society.
thatguru877 3 weeks ago
@gotsda I live in a state and city in America were anyone over 21 can conceal carry a handgun without a permit. Our crime rate is amongst the lowest in the country. The cities and states with most restrictive gun laws, out right bans in some cases, have the highest crime rate. When seconds count, cops are just minutes away. Unless you are on cell phone, then probably about an hour. Also, most mass shootings happen in "gun free zones". Meaning law abiding citizens were left defenseless.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 3 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Your completely overlooking the fact that if guns where banned country wide then taking guns into Gun free zones wouldnt be a problem.
"The cities and states with most restrictive gun laws, out right bans in some cases, have the highest crime rate" No. This is a lie.
I'm guessing your city has low poverty because your completely missing the murder rates in ghettos almost all murders there are caused by shootings.
If noone has guns guncrime isnt a problem circular arguement
gotsda 3 weeks ago
New york, Washington D.C., Chicago, Detroit. Most violent cities in America with the most restrictive gun laws.I challenge you to prove me wrong. Until 1990 my City was was one of the smallest in America, with one of the highest crime rates. In 1992 we passed conceal carry laws, and the crime rate went down in 2009 we passed laws that said law abiding citizens could carry with out a permit. The crime rate continued to drop.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@gotsda Country wide bans dont work, look at the U.K., they banned handguns in 1995-6, now London has more violent attacks then johannesburg, South Africa(you will probably say this is a lie, I got these statistics from NATO). If you outlaw guns, only out laws will have them. We have seen this time and time again, in Australia, U.K., Mexico,Brazil. What about Switzerland, they have more guns in private hands then America, and VERY little crime. No criminal is gonna attack an armed person
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer You got the statistics from NATO? Yet you didn't supply me with a source?
Criminals do attack people who are armed, look at Ghettos, look at how more police are shot in America than in the Uk.
Switzerland is very affluent that is why there are very low gun crime rates derp. I'm guessing where you live it is very affluent hence a low crime rate.
Guns don't cause crimes, but they do escalate the violence in them, I'd rather be mugged twice than shot.
gotsda 2 weeks ago
@gotsda The source was NATO, google it. I live in an average area, there are rich parts and poor parts. But by no means very affluent. You brought up there are more people in London than Johannesburg thats why you have more crime, well in America we have a lot more cops than you do in England, thats why they get shot more. Statistics from the FBI found people are 10 times more likely to survive muggings if instead of producing wallet they produce a firearm.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@gotsda Dont bother responding, I can see I will never change your mind, you will never change mine. I own guns, I carry guns, I will always carry guns.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer You can't even answer my arguements, look guns are okay if everyone who has them is responsible and not about to go rob a shop, like what its like where you live most probably.
But in Ghetto's slums etc, guns along with drugs are the worst thing that could be available.
And all these statistics you've given me are reported crimes, so in reality it just shows how much of Johannesburg is an unpoliced mess.
gotsda 2 weeks ago
@gotsda You basically want the shooters to be punished for a mentally ill peadophole. Forget ghettos - you'll find licenses aren't issued in crime ridden areas. There is close to a million people in the UK with shotgun/firearms licenses. Most of whom own more than one gun. I bought one from someone who owns hundreds.
We've had a relative handfull of deaths in the last 30 years. You really think letting these model citizens have handguns again will cause more unhinged gun rampages?
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Admittedly, I see where your coming from in terms of why one type of gun should be allowed and others shouldn't. I live near to where Derrick Bird went on a rampage (actually know people who knew him) and I admit that shotguns are dangerous, and I also think the checks on shotguns are rigorous enough.
Personally I'd like no individual to own a gun (a club where multiple people have to be present to access them would be a consideration) but this isn't feasable.
gotsda 2 weeks ago
@gotsda Removing comments too. That's very sincere of you.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan I haven't removed any comments, umadbro?
gotsda 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan I know a guy in Whales who has lots of center fire rifles, and shotguns that hold more than 2 shots. Of course he could just be talking shit, I have never seen them. But he is this old dude, and he said he had AK's and AR's and mini-14's from the 70's and 80's before Hungerford. He also said he owns several handguns, that he didnt turn in during the great gun grab of 1996. But again, he could be making it all up, I have no way of knowing
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer All possible. Semi autos were legal before Hungerford. Bolt action rifles are still legal. You can still own AR15s and AK47s believe it or not. They have been crippled so they don't cycle and you have to rack the slide after each shot. Look up "Straight Pull AR 15". May as well be semi auto if you ask me. Certainly faster firing, more compact and much higher capacity than a bolt action rifle and more accuracy at range than "banned" handguns. Ludicrous.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Something else you might find amusing. Look up "long barrel revolvers" We can still have those on a firearms certificate. Since the barrel is so long it isn't classed as a handgun, but the caliburs are massive. .357 .44 .50. They also have to have a wristbrace made of wire to make them that bit longer. They're supposed to stop a law abiding citizen robbing a bank or pulling a Dunblaine. Cont.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan I have heard about the straight pull AR's but never about the Long barrel revolvers, I thought only veterinarians were allowed hand guns, of course I got that info from Top Gear, probably not the best resource for UK firearms laws lol.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer If you can convince the law here that you absolutely need a handgun for some express purpose they can grant legal ownership of one. Generally people who own a lot of land. They kind of take on the role of a "ranger" and need a handgun in the event that they might have to humanely dispatch a wounded animal when a shotgun or a rifle isn't applicable. Don't watch much Top Gear but Clarkson is a smart arsed cunt so he's probably right.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Yeah he is a smart ass, but the show is great, even with the rampant America bashing.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Ze Germans get it worse. I ask the anti gunners why the scumbags should have handguns but not the shooting community (who don't commit any crime)? Then they normally say they want all guns banished from history/planet or something. Or the manufacture of them should end. They don't seem to realise how simple they are to make/mass produce. They'd still effectively have the law abiding public disarmed and leave the criminals to it. Irrational (stupid?)
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Yeah, whenever there is tragedy here people always start screaming about banning guns, so they want to punish EVERYONE for 1 crazy persons actions. But it never goes far, we had an assault weapons ban in the mid 90's to mid 2000's crime rate went up during that time, and when Bush let it expire in mid 2000's(only good thing he did lol) the crime rate dropped, and that was a country wide statistic not just one state. Bad guys dont care about laws!!
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Only good people follow the law, well, to a certain extent, I would never turn my guns in, or submit to registration. So, IF that were to ever come to my state, yeah I guess I would be an "outlaw" because I would not comply.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer There was a vicar here who got a few years for having a Luger in his grandfather clock a few years back. Just the fact that he kept it loaded was enough. A vicar. Old chap probably enjoyed pulling the slide back and cycling rounds though it admiring the engineering from time to time.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Thats terrible, I heard about a soldier who found a gun in his garden or on a walk or something, anyway, he notified the police and was arrested on weapons charges. I thought that was crazy.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer Doesn't surprise me. Safe custody of a gun being classed as possession. Ridiculous. More people realise it the better. Anyway. Pleasant evening buddy. Tearing into the antigun rationale made me tired. Take care now.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Have a good one mate!
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer So handguns are banned but you can still be Dirty Harry here. What's interesting is if someone suddenly felt the urge to start committing gun crime, 5 mins with a hacksaw and it would be concealable again. That would be breaking the law though, so maybe they'd rethink robbing that bank or shooting that cheeky taxi driver. That's what the wire stock is for and the extra length. Very effective.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
@ColonelAllan Lets not forget that criminals dont buy their guns in shops, they buy them from other criminals. From what I understand, England has a ton of Coast line(this is a joke, I know its an Island), lots of opportunity to sneak shit into the country. Just like the heroin trade, they bring it over in speed boats across the channel.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@gotsda I answered your arguments, you have an idea of poor areas from movies and Music, I have lived in "ghettos" I grew up the only white kid in my area, saw people dead in the streets from drug od's. and I can tell you from first hand experience, if you have a gun, criminals go somewhere else. Unless you are criminal and the criminals are coming at you for some sort of revenge. You cant keep guns out of hands of bad guys, all you can do is arm yourself and even the playing field.
TheBelowAverageG4mer 2 weeks ago
@TheBelowAverageG4mer The violent crime in London is most often knife related, some guns but not as many as you would think.
And statistics are only those reported, most of those in Johannesburg go unreported, and there is a higher percentage of murder by FAR.
Its easy there is more violence, but you didn't say there is more murder.
Also London has about 3 million more residants than Johannasburg, which ties in with the quote. There are Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.
gotsda 2 weeks ago
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@TheBelowAverageG4mer No you didn't so far you've answered one, and I'd even call that into question.
You actually danced around what I had to say and said "Dont bother responding, I can see I will never change your mind, you will never change mine. I own guns, I carry guns, I will always carry guns." because you couldn't answer my questions, and which statistics did you get and which Ghetto where you from?
gotsda 2 weeks ago
@gotsda You've been pwned madam. There is no good reason to toughen gun laws and many good reasons why they shouldn't be tough in the first place. The stats are well known and accepted by rational people who know what they are talking about. Ghettos are irrelevant. The million law abiding gun owners don't commit any crime or go around "pray and spraying" kebab shops. I'd wager you don't know any and your fear of inanimate objects is based on some Vin Diesel film you've seen.
ColonelAllan 2 weeks ago
I know where I can buy a fully working gun perfectly legally in the UK because it's an "antique" so it would be a crime against British heritage to remove the firing pin or conver to blanks only.
Not once has any heritage firearm been used in a murder and that has contributed to the status of the firearms. Although when has a legal firearm been used in a murder? Even in America where guns are mostly legal the overwhelming majority of firearm crimes are commited with illigal weapons.
leeham991 4 weeks ago
rot in hell hamilton!!!!
boozybassplayer 1 month ago
When will people realize that outlawing something doesn't make it go away? On most US college campuses guns are illegal, so law abiding citizens who will only use them properly don't carry them, but those that are going to do evil don't care about those laws,so all of the weapons are in the hands of the bad people. If guns were legal on college campuses,even if not a single person had one, people planning to do bad would think twice because someone might just have a gun and kill or main them 1st
qwerty112311 1 month ago
@qwerty112311 I get what your saying, laws aren't meant to always be followed. They are just there so, that we don't just dissolve into chaos. if there were not any laws at all that simple mild manored store clerk might just go out and murder someone. The laws are in place so we keep that number of ordinary people away from becoming chaotic monkeys.
Squashylemon 1 month ago
@qwerty112311 But if you make them that easy to access as they are in America obviously people are gonna be able to sneak them in. Guns shouldnt be in anyones hands (without a purpose)
gotsda 1 month ago
@gotsda yea, good point, fuck the Constitution.
qwerty112311 1 month ago
@gotsda What about people who just enjoy guns?
ColonelAllan 3 weeks ago
i HAVE HEARD FROM POLICE OFFICERS WHO GO TO MY GUN CLUB WHO HAVE TOLD ME A TOTALY DIFFERENT STORY OF WHAT REALLY OCURED THAT DAY COMPARED TO WHAT THE GOVEMENT AND TV HAS STATED.... IF EVERY ONE CARRIED A HAND GUN LIKE THE TEACHER COULD OF SHOT HIM DED BEFORE HE COULD OF DONE MORE DAMAGE... WE WILL HAVE ARE HAND GUNS BACK AND THE PEOPLE WILL BE MORE SAFE THAN THEY ARE NOW
aadrianlee 2 months ago
@aadrianlee and then even more nutters like you would use guns!
TheJaaysog 1 month ago
As Bad as The Dunblane Massacre was. Weeks after Dunblane Martin Bryant's Port Arthur Massacre In Hobart Australia would be the worse mass killing ever committed by a lone gunman To Date In Which 35 people were killed and 21 others badly wounded. After The Port Arthur Massacre all Militray Style Firearms were banned from Commercial Sale and the Australian Goverment Brought them all back. However it hasn't stopped Bikie Gangs or gangsters getting them over here in Australia and using them.
LUCIFER1172 2 months ago
@LUCIFER1172 it's not a competition, "lucifer".
Watershed92 2 months ago
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anyn16girl 2 months ago
@anyn16girl oh, shut up!
GoldenLegends100 2 months ago
it's sicken how hate and evilness is all over the world ;0( i wish someone could of stopped that bastard, get behind him, hit him over the head with a large metal object and then beat the sh*t out of him. what a selfish person to take young babies lives like that.
violetr0se 3 months ago
Just imagine one of your truly ordinary days and some guy at a completely random time just banging the door open and coming towards you. How much time would you have to even register him let alone think about what he's doing?The terrifying twats of the world.
Redflowers9 3 months ago
an odd thing i noticed about this piece is that there is not as much information given about the killer compared to other true crime documentary's, however i found if the the video is about the killer instead of the crime it can justify or excuse (to a degree) the seriousness of what has happened, thanks for uploading
liamtheproducer 3 months ago
Just thought I'd chime in. A lot of inanimate object fearing people here. These people want more government involvement? They'd have the corners filed off everything and everything wrapped in foam for the purpose of "safety" if we let them. LOL. Big government run teletubby land. Wouldn't that be nice?
ColonelAllan 3 months ago
@ColonelAllan
Yeah, ur SO right. Nuclear weapons don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people! Damn BIG GOVT won't let me keep my own atomic weapons for personal safety. It's a travesty of my freedoms!
schlumbucket 3 months ago
@schlumbucket I don't remember condoning nuclear weapons but you sound like a responsible enough citizen.
ColonelAllan 3 months ago
Even if guns become completely outlawed for civilians and manufacturers can only legally supply military and police. There'll still be illegal manufacture of guns. From an engineering standpoint they're relatively simple machines. The ammunition relatively simple chemistry and tubing. The trade will go underground, garage and basement workshops will then supply criminal demand. Sorry.
ColonelAllan 3 months ago
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Think about it. A catch released, spring loaded pin, and a metal tube; A basic 'gat', perfect for when someone disses you. It's like trying to ban knives. How can you stop someone making a sharp object?
ColonelAllan 3 months ago
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And that's only a basic 'gun'. Someone with engineering skills could make repeating, accurate weapons; They could add rifling to the barrel (by cutting a spiral shape inside it) They could utilise blowback ejector mechanisms so that when the first round is fired the slide blows back and pulls out the empty (cocking the firing pin in the process), chambering a fresh cartridge when returning back to it's original position. Tubes, springs and catches cannot be banned. Example Stengun = Simplicity.
ColonelAllan 3 months ago
@ColonelAllan Even if guns DID become comepletely outlawed for civilians , having illegal small underground workshops wouldnt be nearly as bad as having gun shops everywhere.
dirtybunny987 2 months ago
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ColonelAllan 2 months ago
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ColonelAllan 2 months ago
while the Dunblane massacre was terrible,the knee jerk legislation that followed banning handguns in the hope of winning more votes was utter stupidity.Sport shooters lost a hobby and many lost the means to protect themselves,family and property.There have been far worse multiple murders since Dunblane where if just one person had access to their own firearm could have saved the lives of many.With ever increasing armed violent crime we are all sitting ducks against an armed assailant.
silver760 3 months ago
@silver760 In the event of any of us facing an armed intruder we will all be long dead by the police arrive.Even in situations where the police have gotten to a scene with an armed criminal they will not enter the building.As drug dealing and drug use increases so does the number of illegal firearms,the dealers use them to protect themselves,drugs and money.Drug users use firearms to commit crime in order to feed their habit.The Cumbrian shooter could have been stopped if one person had a gun.
silver760 3 months ago
I truly hope there is a hell, just so I know you're burning. You bastard.
sylontuk 3 months ago
how could a person do this
MrGta12367 3 months ago
@DrCanuckchuck:
a) I somehow doubt that Hamilton could have caused the same kind of carnage with a rolling pin... but don't let mere fact get in the way of your "logic"
b) The citizens vs rogue governments is one of the stupidest arguments I have EVER heard. A group of civilians and shooting club members vs a highly trained mechanized military armed with drones, jet fighters and a satellite targeting system etc. We're not living in the 18th century.
c) Think about shit before you post.
Satakunta 4 months ago
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stayawaytoo 4 months ago
Gun control is an emotional response to a social problem. Sure, ban all guns, then when people switch to knives, ban all knives. Then when people start killing with screwdrivers, ban all screwdrivers. Baseball bats, frying pans, ropes, rolling pins, etc. You see where it goes? A killer is going to reach for the first available weapon, gun control isn't going to end killing. It's the person that's the problem, not the tool he uses to kill.
Dr1Canuckchuck 4 months ago
@Dr1Canuckchuck What you said is just absolute shit. Do you think school massacres can be achieved by someone rolling in with a baseball bat? The death toll would reach about 1 or 2 before the attacker was simply bombarded by bystanders whereas if the attacker has a fully automatic machine gun in his hand then their targets are much easier to kill. Take your NWA shit elswhere.
Rewnskeyp 4 months ago
@Rewnskeyp OK, 1st of all, I don't know what NWA means. 2nd, so you're saying school massacres are the only time anyone uses a gun? And because guns are only ever used to kill people during school massacres we should ban guns? You're an idiot.
Dr1Canuckchuck 4 months ago
@Rewnskeyp There have probably been less than 10 occasions world-wide when there has been a mass shooting like this one, contrasted with the hundreds of thousands of occasions per year that require the legitimate use of a gun by law-abiding citizens protecting themselves from this type of nutbar, as well as the responsibility of ALL citizens to possess a gun to protect themselves from rogue governments. So, you think those 10 occasions justify banning all guns forever?
Dr1Canuckchuck 4 months ago
@Rewnskeyp Here in Canada we've had gun control since 1976. In 1999 we had the Taber school shooting 8 days after the Columbine shooting. Ya, gun control is the answer, alright. I think your rose-coloured glasses are fogged up.
Dr1Canuckchuck 4 months ago
@Dr1Canuckchuck I swear the whole YT community is fucking retarded. Your point was that if we stop guns then people will just resort to other means of weapons such as baseball bots and frying pans etc. Was it not? Yes it was. I can tell you're not very bright because you've completely ignored my point. Anyway you never said anything about the Taber shootings you simply stated that if we remove guns people will always have other ways to cause harm. I'm saying that a baseball bat is going to cause
Rewnskeyp 4 months ago
@Rewnskeyp not nearly the same amount of damage as a gun you fucking idiot. The comment you posted about frying pans and rolling pins was just complete shit. I'm not saying that if we have gun control that nobody will ever use a gun, I'm saying it's better to have people running around with frying pans than a fully automatic machine gun. My glasses aren't rose or fogged up you complete idiot.
Rewnskeyp 4 months ago
Like any Brit, I know about this and was totally numbed by it at the time. And it was such a despicable crime against so many small children that it still shocks me just as much as it did when it happened every time I watch a documentary on it or read about it. May all the victims rest in peace and my thoughts go today to their families and all others who knew them..
fripouille69 4 months ago
damn..
ThcMadness 5 months ago
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I remember this can i tell you i went to held my children in my arm very tightly
misteeq64 5 months ago
I remember this can i tell you i went to held my children in my arm very tightly
misteeq64 5 months ago
poor little angels RIP
MrNickchristou 5 months ago
Please stop and think before you make a negative comment here or a sick joke. This is about the murder of innocent children, If you cant respect children you are inhuman and have so little value of life. RIP to the children
JCAquarius2009 5 months ago
lol 743 rounds and he could only pull of 15 kills
what a fag
SniipeSideeVEVO 5 months ago
@SniipeSideeVEVO not funny mate
NukeIraq1 5 months ago
@SniipeSideeVEVO thats disgusting, no humour in that what so ever, your so lucky it wasnt someone you love who died that day.
beccalouise011 5 months ago
@SniipeSideeVEVO you fuckin piece of shit
darkknight302 5 months ago
@SniipeSideeVEVO dude thats seriously not funny?
TheCheckitout12 5 months ago
@SniipeSideeVEVO
You fucko, are a horrible bastard and have issues if you find any of this amusing!
DISGUSTING!!!
hearts76100 4 months ago
Just to warn everyone, this documentary is incredibly dull. The whole thing is just depressing interviews with parents. It goes into very little detail about the events that took place, and it goes into absolutely no detail regarding the life of Thomas Hamilton.
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux it goes into no details about the police cover up.hamilton was under police surveillance when he did this cause they had been tipped off,had been told to put men with guns on him but instead they did it their way &put normal undercover on him.3 weeks before he did this the police checked up on his legally owned collection of handguns and the officer said he was gloating. police said it was coincendental undercover police were at the school at the time of the shooting.
magnusalexa 5 months ago
@magnusalexa
There were undercover officers at the scene during the shooting? Has this been verified??
madhammudeux 5 months ago
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@davidbahar
A better place?? What, rotting in the ground instead going on to live their lives? If murder victims go to a better place, why don't we just encourage mass murder as a positive public act?
And what the hell does this have to do with Palestine?? Are you telling me that every day in Palestine someone walks into a school in Gaza and blows away a load of children? Well even if they did, it's a wonderful thing, because dead children go to a better place right??
Freak...
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@davidbahar
A better place?? What, rotting in the ground instead going on to live their lives? If murder victims go to a better place, why don't we just encourage mass murder as a positive public act?
And what the hell does this have to do with Palestine?? Are you telling me that every day in Palestine someone walks into a school in Gaza and blows away a load of children? Well even if they did, it's a wonderful thing, because dead children go to a better place right??
Freak...
madhammudeux 5 months ago
Complete and utter setup..Funny how someone can commit suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head...Political reaction..Ban handguns..A few wks later Australia had the Port Arthur Massacre...Same thing..Country disarmed...Look into it it and it will become as clear as day...
WTF7176 6 months ago
Can't take back a bullet. They're dead now, which is unfortunate.
Victoryman34 6 months ago
Listen, this guy had a beef with the adults - yes as sick as it was as horrible as he was - but the kids? The kids?
GrendelDaze 6 months ago
I have suddenly really begun to find myself attracted to English women & even celtics. I am part each, but never really felt this way before. Now I want to make a family with one of them. Is this a weird reaction? I don't know. I do not know...
GrendelDaze 6 months ago
i know one of the people in the video, the surrviver, one in the blue shirt.
lunder673 6 months ago
I live in Dunblane. It is such a sad story. All of us in Dunblane are so sensitive to guns now. we have many memorials about the shootings.it is so sad. :*(
lunder673 6 months ago
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garysquirrelreviews 6 months ago
@garysquirrelreviews
I'm Younger. I like Shakespeare. And the only thing that's wasting bandwidth is your dumb ass.
Kukilunestar 6 months ago
shezhuold :)
NickelodeonBuff 6 months ago
@MissDumyat according to reports he cut the phone lines of the school. so im guessing that they had to leave the grounds after they stopped hearing the shooting. Normally people run for help but im sure the adults were thinking about keeping the children safe
shortiisweet99 6 months ago
stupid ass english people showed their lack of intelligence once again
JohnF30Music 6 months ago
@JohnF30Music - Dunblane is in Scotland, not England. Way to show your lack of intelligence!
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
thomas whatever your fucking last name is lucky your DEAD!!! i would of fucking TEAR YOU APART WITH MY BARE HANDS!!!!
Vocaloid00Meiko 7 months ago
i feel like crying
ripperchunk 7 months ago
Wheres the Massacre where terorrist killed every person at an elementary school for 3 days?
KariKessler777 7 months ago
@MegaJohn727 That's the real tragedy here
KevD08 7 months ago
some sick comments by people, scumbags
paull805 7 months ago
Nick North is a fucking moron how dare he use his experience to prevent law abiding citizens of the right to defend their own lives.Enjoying the profits from your book Mr North? because of scum like you this country is collapsing the morons have more rights than the average citizen.We are not allowed to defend ourselves!!!but the scum can do whatever they like! I hope you are very proud.
MrAmilo123 7 months ago
Im sorry but they banned handguns for this? if he had used a legal handgun or a illegal handgun there would be no difference
traceradam 8 months ago
@traceradam They banned handguns after the massacre
Learn your guns dude
RIP victims of Dunblane
Moonsorrow15 7 months ago
@Moonsorrow15 that's what i said prick
traceradam 7 months ago
@traceradam No you didn't and calm yourself dumbass
this was in 1996 and they didn't ban handguns until the massacre dumbass
Moonsorrow15 7 months ago
@Moonsorrow15 they banned handguns after the massacre dumbass
traceradam 7 months ago
@traceradam OMG are you actually dumb
fucking read what I said
Moonsorrow15 7 months ago
@Moonsorrow15 you said "they didn't ban handguns until the massacre dumbass" that does not make sense they banned them after if the banned them until the massacre the handguns would have been banned before the shootings DUMBASS!!!!
traceradam 7 months ago
@traceradam Well i meant after. anyway who the fuck cares the faggot who killed all them innocent children is burning in hell right now
Moonsorrow15 7 months ago
@Moonsorrow15 Umad?
traceradam 7 months ago
@traceradam Wtf????????????????
Moonsorrow15 7 months ago
@traceradam - He used a legal handgun. Since we have banned guns in the UK we have never had another school, university or workplace shooting.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 you can buy a revolver for £100 of the streets and that will got in to the criminals pocket or if they where legal i could buy a revolver for £100 and then the money will go in to the economy witch would you rather have a criminal having my money or the economy and you don't understand it not about the guns it about our freedom
traceradam 6 months ago
@traceradam - We have freedom to elect our members of parliament and it was by public demand that there was a ban on the sale of guns in the UK. Freedom of choice, and as a result there are 40 gun deaths each year in the UK and 35,000 in the USA.
Regarding buying illegal guns. Did you know the killed in Norway tried to buy illegal guns and even traveled to Prague. He failed and so joined a gun club until he could get the guns legally. You might know where to get guns 99% of people don't.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 I that true 40 deaths not according to the bbc "2007 the Met saw a 3.5% rise in firearms offences in London - up from 3,485 to 3,607 incidents. " and anybody can get the guns for cristsake you can buy them off the internet
traceradam 6 months ago
@traceradam - Google "Britain records 18% fall in gun deaths" there were 42 gun deaths in the UK in 2009. Do you honestly think that would be the case if people had access to legal firearms? Of course not.
Statistics clearly show gun control works and that it is what the population wants. I don't want U.S. style school shootings thank you. I'm happy with gun control and believe there should be a minimum 10 year term for owning a gun. And remember most illegal guns started off legally somewhere.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 Started off legally do you know were these guns come? from Pakistan china mexico people in the uk can get ak47 mac10s they have never been legal labia hated the west so the sovietunion donated ak47s to Qaddafi and those ak47 where found in the hands of the ira but dont worry criminals love gun control it means that next time they brake it to you're house and try to kill you they know you will not be able to defend yourself
traceradam 6 months ago
@traceradam - Yes of course those guns were legally produced. Where do you think they come from, the magical gun mines of Siberia?
There is no evidence whatsoever that people are safer with guns as you just claimed. But for the last time there is clear recorded statistics that the U.S. with no gun control has 35,000 death p/a. We have 40 death p/a clearly gun control works. The stats could not be more compelling.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 Oh yes they are all legally produced buy big corporations and this must be fake /watch?v=hle0zJ5ZubQ
traceradam 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 i disagree.gun crimes in US actually dropped over 70% when carry conceled weapons law introduced.
your not gonna rob a house if the owners legally allowed to shoot
garysquirrelreviews 6 months ago
@garysquirrelreviews - Those statistics are just nonsense as there has been no 70% drop in crime. The U.S. has a far higher murder rate than the U.K. because of guns.
Also please try to improve your English language skills as you are embarrassing my country.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@garysquirrelreviews
Odd.
Last time I checked, the highest time of murder in the states was during the wild west. When everyone had a gun.
Kukilunestar 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 check your stats idiot. There were 8000 homicides in the US by gun violence. Not 35,000 idiot. This isn't Mexico. Also, the US has 8x the population than the UK
blkaladdin 6 months ago
@blkaladdin - If you're 41 then learn to converse as an adult. Insults simply make you look uneducated and weaken you and your argument.
Here is my response and unless you can grow up a little I will not respond again.
According to the world health authority their are 35,000 gun deaths (I said gun deaths, not murders) each year in the U.S.
Also the population of the U.S. is 5 times (not 8) that of the U.K., and we have 40 gun deaths each year. 5x40 = 200.
Why so low? Gun control.
WillShakespeare2007 6 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 the 8 x population was a typo-my mistake. I lived in the UK for 6 years in the 1970's. I have the utmost respect for the UK. We don't need more gun control here in the US-it's our society's ills that is the cause for the majority of gun violence. We have a right to carry a firearm here(barring a felony conviction,etc)
blkaladdin 6 months ago
@blkaladdin
Guns make people feel powerful, emboldening them to act in circumstances they may of otherwise walked away from. Americans however choose to ignore this obvious fact, instead resorting to the logic. 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people'.
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux this was a terrible tragedy, the americans are right, people kill people, these cowardly cold blooded killers never try to go into a gun club or a army barracks to kill people as they would be met by people with guns and would not live a minute.
irishgeal1 5 months ago
@irishgeal1 a gun ban isn't the answer. a gun is only as dangerous as the fool holding it. i do believe in strict gun laws, and strict penalties for people who break those laws. i disagree with you a little bit, on the army barracks comment. some fool did go and attack fort hood a couple of years ago. he managed to kill a lot of people, before someone shot him. he's on trial now. i think when someone starts shooting at a crowd, they are in shock and take a while to react. i can't imagine
tranurse 5 months ago
@WillShakespeare2007 Remind me, how many were there before Dunblane?
MKPSG12 1 month ago
The murdere aparantly walked in the school with a Kalasniov and said "Say hello to my little friend" Before opening fire . . . Very sad.
punkyfunksence 8 months ago
@punkyfunksence your an asshole!
HomerJEDL 7 months ago
@HomerJEDL You're the murdere!!!
punkyfunksence 7 months ago
we will never really know what happened here on that day, Hamilton had links with police and politicians. his records remain a 100 year secret. they will not be opened and revealed for a LONG time, we must keep the memory alive so that one day we will know what really happened.
RIP
HomerJEDL 7 months ago
Odd that these kinds of incidents always happen in a peaceful area outside of any major cities.
TaZ101SAGA 8 months ago
@dudeyabbie101 - I'm not sure you know why he did it.
If you tortured him, you would have been equal to him, or even worst.
TracingGhost 8 months ago
i was born on this exact day. and it makes me feel sick everytime i think of it. hamilton shouldnt have died then thats to easy. i would have TORTURED THE SICK TWISTED BUGGER by cutting limb by limb off
dudeyabbie101 8 months ago
@dudeyabbie101 You are as bad as him if you want to do that. You should be locked up!! Pathetic.
jaidee76 8 months ago
@dudeyabbie101 I used to think like you, and what he did was horrible but we should not be judge over people. I know that this upsets you, as so does it make me upset. but if you keep that hate then it will destroy you, for your own sake let the anger go. Don't let your anger and hatered make you like the monster who had done this. This goes for anyone else who thinks like this, let it go. I don't know if you believe in God but I do and I know he will get what's coming to him.
StealthFirePro 8 months ago
thomas hamilton is the biggest scum in the world, im very sorry hes dead... my biggest regret being that i would have happily spent hours punishing and torturing this sick, vile twat. i can honestly say id have made his last few hours the worst time a living thing could have had in life
dazc751 8 months ago
He was a freemason and this was probably a cult ritual sacrifice.
14ALL41OK 8 months ago
you know what scarey about shit like this is it happens all around us in countrys like the middle east. i remember when columbine happened. i was like 16 at the time i was really freaked out then it hit me noone safe. i mean anyone can go on a rampage and take ur ass out...
cranberry411 8 months ago
@GaddafiIsAGreatMan sorry but what does this have to do with the video. show some respect to the children who had their lives taken from them!
trema006 9 months ago
i remember this and it was a total shock wave still deeply felt now!
there is no words to describe how bad this is and no one will understand the harshness like the survivors and relatives! my heart goes out to everyone affected!
barrydeekin1 9 months ago
They can never be sure of whether such a thing will happen again, handguns or not, but they have made sure that everyone decent has been effectively disarmed. Wow, I am impressed by that kind of "responsibility". Lt. Col. Cooper has once commented: "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Think about that for a moment, Snowdrop Campaign! Your unchallenged gun ban efforts have merely made live more easier for violent criminals. Congratulations!
Karamojo7mm 9 months ago
@Karamojo7mm totally agree with you mate. it also doesnt help that the law always seems to favour the criminals rather than the victims who tried to defend themselves.
trema006 9 months ago
Okay, what do we have here? An armed madman wents to a school, a place where he knows for sure that he finds unarmed, defenseless victims. What does the people affected by this tragedy do afterwards, even the teacher who was first confronted by the gunman: lobbying for a handgun ban! What kinda logic is that?
Karamojo7mm 9 months ago
This was an attack on the parents of these children and not so much the children themselves.
fuckcomments 9 months ago in playlist cold case
@fuckcomments - Horseshit.
FixedNewsChannel 9 months ago
@FixedNewsChannel Not horseshit.. The parents of the town complained that he was too strange and he was fired from being a Scout leader if I remember correctly. To get back at everyone for "ruining him" he chose to go to the public school and shoot their children because it was the sickest way he could get back at everyone. Of course he was an actual pedophile and already saw children as things to destroy and throw away after like it was nothing so it was easy for him to kill anyone.
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