Okay, so I have a Roland PK-5 foot pedal midi controller, can I set this up to my midi controller, plug the midi controller into my amp, and select my settings live through the mopho ? What are my options with this thing and a PK-5 ?
Don't buy this synth, it may be very cheap and powerful, but it's a nightmare to program, and knobs don't respond linearly which means it's really unpleasant to tweak parameters. At least you should try it before you buy it!!
I'm trying to figure out if I want to buy this or the Doepfer Dark Energy. I already have a Waldorf Blofeld and the menu diving annoys the hell out of me.
hey can someone point me to a video i watched a while ago its of a guy who starts off playing a bass guitar loops it then jumps on a piano loops that then sings then jumps on his drums i cant remember the name of the vid but its on you tube
Comparing a MicroKorg to a Casio is idiotic. It's not a Moog, but it's a great intrument that you can do a lot of things with. If you aren't bright enough to edit the presets you should probably stick to a Casio. You should donate your money to a real musician who deserves a higher quality keyboard.
What does it mean when you say its just one voice of the prophet 8 does this mean i can get the same sounds from a prophet 8? im new into analogue gear and i was looking at the prophet 8 seems pretty cool any suggestions?
@gxddxmnxt I dont think they are comparable as one is alot more complicated than the other. The range of sounds you could get out of a monophonic analogue compared to a va with wavetables and sampling is limited.
This does what it does very well, it gets those old pro one monophonic prophet sounds at a really amazing price. Its huge bargain and a great entry level analogue synth especially if you are considering the keyboard version.
@gxddxmnxt there is no point in comparing them mate they are completely different mopho is analogue and the blofeld is digital blofeld is for more complex sounds and has more voices mopho is not , it is mono and fat is for bass lines and that kind of stuff mostly while blofeld is a full synth very close to what use to be the micro q line of waldorf. mopho is great to add some analogue bass sounds to a digital synth track cheers
for those of you that are comparing this to a microkorg, you really need to do your research. This is an analogue synth and is by far of superior sound to the casio, i mean microkorg. If you want a synth to take to school, get a microkorg, if you want a synth to blow your mind and get a club jumping, get a dave smith
@guinguinpenguin although you can't really compare them. They are completely different instruments. I don't know why he's comparing them to microkorgs.
I listened to the DSI evolver as well. The stuff sounds too much like the Reason Maelstrom and others for my taste. I like the Korgs better for a modern synth.
@TheRealCritique Maelstrom is a granular synthesizer, there's no way it could sound like an analogue synth. The Mopho is closer in design to Reaon Subtractor. If you compared the DSI to a Virtual Analogue Subtractive Synth it would be much more believable.
you may be right, but a well-encoded mp3 will capture the juicy of analog. I've heard on everything from keyboard demos to Gary Numan videos, so....its not just the encoding.
Absolutely, TheRealCritique. Modern softsynths are a far better (and more affordable option) than something like this. Have you tried Poly-Ana? That is easily the best softsynth out there, and blows this thing away. Just do a search for Poly-Ana (short for Polyphonic Analog) and see what it brings up. I bought my copy at a very affordable price and am glad I did!
@WithExtremePrejudice Being digital software synths sound different. Hardware has the advantage of live analogue circuits and all their inconsistencys.
Not true. Softsynths, particularly analogue modeling softsynths, have perfectly captured the sound of analogue synthesizers through engineering those inconsistencies -- because such algorithms are programmed in a stable digital environment, the environment itself has no effect on the sound. Softsynths that don't sound good just aren't engineered well.
This is a highly subjective matter. However the broad spectrum of opinion will qualify you as incorrect. Various listening tests have been conducted publicly on the internet for years. And the consensus has always been that Virtual Analogue synths sound distinct from Analogue synths. None is better than the other. They are just different.
Even Hardware VA's with their dedicated DSP processors like the Nord Modular, Virus TI2 or Roland V-Piano currently sound better or phatter than most Soft synths.
Actually, this is not true at all. The VAST majority of double-blind tests conducted show that over 99.5% of listeners cannot reliably tell the difference between a properly engineered softsynth and an analog synth.
The real issue here, and the reason there is such a market for analog synths still, is because there are so many luddites who cannot accept that audio engineering has finally captured all of the nuances of analog.
That is incorrect. I have yet to hear a VST that can sound like a CS80. Arturia's plugin doesn't sound close. Same with the Moog. Have yet to even hear a VST that can sound like an Access Virus. The Virus is one of the more analog sounding VAs, there's a reason why. General purpose CPUs DO NOT house enough power to handle more advanced modeling algorithms. Corners will always be cut in the quality department. Units like the Virus use dedicated hardware specifically designed for the task.
DSP chips whilst lacking in flexibility, are hardwired to achieve a higher level of parallelism. Clock for clock, watt for watt, they can run VA algorithms faster than any general purpose x86 processor. If you dont believe me. Look at this analogy. Try running a modern game in software mode (using only the CPU) & see how performance drops to a complete crawl. Games benefit from hardwired chips (GPU) with highly parallel pixel and vertex shaders to handle the processing load.
Actually, Arturia HAS a software copy of the CS-80! Pretty amazing, eh?
The reason you have yet to hear a VST that sounds truly like an analog synth isn't because your ear is that discerning -- it's because you already know that what you are hearing is a VST, so it is never given a fair chance because you will not open your mind to the fact that modern softsynths outperform old analog technology.
@v1o Are you serious? 2ghz are a LOT of operations per second, even if processors are optimized for non arithmetical instructions. If VAs sound worse, it's not because of lack of processing power.
no offense, but this doesnt sound that much better than a softsynth to me...raspathon. If these things can get creamy bass and the pads everyone wants, then they should show it in these demos...
That's to be expected really. It's real analouge. There is no keybed.., and the MoPho has no where near the real-time control as you find on the SH-201. Both units are great synths too. The MoPho's a great little box unit.., and the 201 is a nice VA unit with a lot of controllers, keybed, and a VERY simple user interface without all the menus.
Its a great bargain for the price. Its monophonic, but you can get along this limitation by sampling the sound and playing chords...multitimbrality is easily excused if multi-tracked one track by one...you can great tight grooves, searing leads, shaking basses, etc.
I still prefer the Prophet 08 rack due to its great interface and 8 voices poly / 2 multi-timbral.
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How many sounds in the Mopho ?
And do we find also pipe, reed, brass, organ, strings, chior etc ?
8blackprince8 1 month ago
Hahaha nice blade runner!
dannyd1224 1 month ago
boring sounds...
alos2099 2 months ago
nice demo, can't wait to get one now :)
Goth108 2 months ago
Yes, the bass is great, however I need more real-time controls
trunks2861 3 months ago
Okay, so I have a Roland PK-5 foot pedal midi controller, can I set this up to my midi controller, plug the midi controller into my amp, and select my settings live through the mopho ? What are my options with this thing and a PK-5 ?
Rendell05 6 months ago
what does the push it button even do i still havnt found a video where someone pushes that badboy
bauhausfan23 7 months ago
LoL, it says Ass behind knob number 2 :D
lolypopboy777 7 months ago 2
This module blows !
top40productions 7 months ago
i really enjoy these...i might buy one. what equipment do i need before hand?
KenobiFromCoruscant 8 months ago
@KenobiFromCoruscant midi cable
krakatoa47 8 months ago
@krakatoa47 could i run a kaossilator pro through this or the dark energy?
KenobiFromCoruscant 8 months ago
@KenobiFromCoruscant you could use the mopho filter yes... but i dont think the kaossilator pro can directly control midi devices.
krakatoa47 8 months ago
for 400 bucks this looks shit
Mankemacho 8 months ago 3
@Mankemacho do u mean shit as in "shit" or "the shit?"
krakatoa47 8 months ago
FrancisJoa, "stable vco's" = @ss sound. - Please grow a brain before commenting.
userjoe1020 9 months ago
somebody hand this to WC Olo Garb or JayBee, quick sharp!
Docipede 11 months ago 3
@Docipede
That's a good idea!
MusicNon5top 11 months ago
Don't buy this synth, it may be very cheap and powerful, but it's a nightmare to program, and knobs don't respond linearly which means it's really unpleasant to tweak parameters. At least you should try it before you buy it!!
generix83 11 months ago
@generix83 Have you tried the keyboard? It has different pots.
sacredgeometry 6 months ago
@sacredgeometry
No i haven't, i have no doubt way it's better...You can't just arbitrarily contract the price of a synth and expect to get quality.
generix83 6 months ago
@generix83 How do you mean? Analogue synths are really cheap to make.
sacredgeometry 6 months ago
@sacredgeometry
I was talking about the mopho, it sure is very cheap, but if I may say, that comes at a price :-)
generix83 6 months ago
@generix83 Oh right sorry. I think that you can when the markup is substantial :) What synths are you comparing it too out of interest?
sacredgeometry 6 months ago
@sacredgeometry
Any synth with a sufficient amount of knobs that have an instant and linear response :-)
generix83 6 months ago
1:21 Blade runner ish
tranceemerson 1 year ago
I'm trying to figure out if I want to buy this or the Doepfer Dark Energy. I already have a Waldorf Blofeld and the menu diving annoys the hell out of me.
Raikonex 1 year ago
@Raikonex Buy the Doepfer DE, in my opinion the better sounding and more flexible device in use for sounddesign.
FrancisJoa 1 year ago
@FrancisJoa Oh jea, advice a synth with unstable vco's.. stupid fuck
Senj1n 9 months ago
hey can someone point me to a video i watched a while ago its of a guy who starts off playing a bass guitar loops it then jumps on a piano loops that then sings then jumps on his drums i cant remember the name of the vid but its on you tube
hurricanewinzz 1 year ago
He was just comparing the price to a MicroKorg.
Comparing a MicroKorg to a Casio is idiotic. It's not a Moog, but it's a great intrument that you can do a lot of things with. If you aren't bright enough to edit the presets you should probably stick to a Casio. You should donate your money to a real musician who deserves a higher quality keyboard.
EnigmaticRecluse 1 year ago
@EnigmaticRecluse i think he was just comparing price not quality .
Flipjunkie1 1 year ago
Why didn't you push the button D: ?? Push it!
LieserlEinstein 1 year ago 50
@LieserlEinstein
its just a sustain
MrBoneStripper98 10 months ago
1:23 Blade Runner End Titles, lol
GameBoyPL1991 1 year ago
Exelent review¡
Funbia 1 year ago
What does it mean when you say its just one voice of the prophet 8 does this mean i can get the same sounds from a prophet 8? im new into analogue gear and i was looking at the prophet 8 seems pretty cool any suggestions?
TracKAddicTeDMusic 1 year ago
This may be a stupid question, but how does the Mopho compare to the Waldorf Blofeld?
gxddxmnxt 1 year ago
@gxddxmnxt I dont think they are comparable as one is alot more complicated than the other. The range of sounds you could get out of a monophonic analogue compared to a va with wavetables and sampling is limited.
This does what it does very well, it gets those old pro one monophonic prophet sounds at a really amazing price. Its huge bargain and a great entry level analogue synth especially if you are considering the keyboard version.
sacredgeometry 1 year ago
@gxddxmnxt there is no point in comparing them mate they are completely different mopho is analogue and the blofeld is digital blofeld is for more complex sounds and has more voices mopho is not , it is mono and fat is for bass lines and that kind of stuff mostly while blofeld is a full synth very close to what use to be the micro q line of waldorf. mopho is great to add some analogue bass sounds to a digital synth track cheers
abscrete 1 year ago
for those of you that are comparing this to a microkorg, you really need to do your research. This is an analogue synth and is by far of superior sound to the casio, i mean microkorg. If you want a synth to take to school, get a microkorg, if you want a synth to blow your mind and get a club jumping, get a dave smith
cprostudio 1 year ago 2
I'm thinking of getting this, what would you recommend as a controller?
Hobbyist56 1 year ago
Thin and harsh
boswachtersrule 1 year ago
"costs less than microkorg xl"
:)
speedtribejp 1 year ago
i prefer my microkorg xl tbh
guinguinpenguin 1 year ago
@guinguinpenguin although you can't really compare them. They are completely different instruments. I don't know why he's comparing them to microkorgs.
Biopharmer 1 year ago
@Biopharmer not comparing them, jus sayin i prefer it
guinguinpenguin 1 year ago
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its insane this guys taint
spreadjerks 1 year ago
its insane this guys taint
spreadjerks 1 year ago
@spreadjerks You should have seen it....
junglehead99 1 year ago
Thumbs, up both of you
paperknives 1 year ago
I listened to the DSI evolver as well. The stuff sounds too much like the Reason Maelstrom and others for my taste. I like the Korgs better for a modern synth.
TheRealCritique 2 years ago
@TheRealCritique Maelstrom is a granular synthesizer, there's no way it could sound like an analogue synth. The Mopho is closer in design to Reaon Subtractor. If you compared the DSI to a Virtual Analogue Subtractive Synth it would be much more believable.
v1o 1 year ago
you may be right, but a well-encoded mp3 will capture the juicy of analog. I've heard on everything from keyboard demos to Gary Numan videos, so....its not just the encoding.
TheRealCritique 2 years ago
Absolutely, TheRealCritique. Modern softsynths are a far better (and more affordable option) than something like this. Have you tried Poly-Ana? That is easily the best softsynth out there, and blows this thing away. Just do a search for Poly-Ana (short for Polyphonic Analog) and see what it brings up. I bought my copy at a very affordable price and am glad I did!
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
@WithExtremePrejudice Being digital software synths sound different. Hardware has the advantage of live analogue circuits and all their inconsistencys.
v1o 1 year ago
Not true. Softsynths, particularly analogue modeling softsynths, have perfectly captured the sound of analogue synthesizers through engineering those inconsistencies -- because such algorithms are programmed in a stable digital environment, the environment itself has no effect on the sound. Softsynths that don't sound good just aren't engineered well.
WithExtremePrejudice 1 year ago
This is a highly subjective matter. However the broad spectrum of opinion will qualify you as incorrect. Various listening tests have been conducted publicly on the internet for years. And the consensus has always been that Virtual Analogue synths sound distinct from Analogue synths. None is better than the other. They are just different.
v1o 1 year ago
Even Hardware VA's with their dedicated DSP processors like the Nord Modular, Virus TI2 or Roland V-Piano currently sound better or phatter than most Soft synths.
v1o 1 year ago
Actually, this is not true at all. The VAST majority of double-blind tests conducted show that over 99.5% of listeners cannot reliably tell the difference between a properly engineered softsynth and an analog synth.
The real issue here, and the reason there is such a market for analog synths still, is because there are so many luddites who cannot accept that audio engineering has finally captured all of the nuances of analog.
WithExtremePrejudice 1 year ago
yeah, until its time to sit in the mix,
2design1 1 year ago
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v1o 1 year ago
That is incorrect. I have yet to hear a VST that can sound like a CS80. Arturia's plugin doesn't sound close. Same with the Moog. Have yet to even hear a VST that can sound like an Access Virus. The Virus is one of the more analog sounding VAs, there's a reason why. General purpose CPUs DO NOT house enough power to handle more advanced modeling algorithms. Corners will always be cut in the quality department. Units like the Virus use dedicated hardware specifically designed for the task.
v1o 1 year ago
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DSP chips whilst lacking in flexibility, are hardwired to achieve a higher level of parallelism. Clock for clock, watt for watt, they can run VA algorithms faster than any general purpose x86 processor. If you dont believe me. Look at this analogy. Try running a modern game in software mode (using only the CPU) & see how performance drops to a complete crawl. Games benefit from hardwired chips (GPU) with highly parallel pixel and vertex shaders to handle the processing load.
v1o 1 year ago
However computers do not have that same luxury with Audio. CPU's are only good for general purpose code.
v1o 1 year ago
Actually, Arturia HAS a software copy of the CS-80! Pretty amazing, eh?
The reason you have yet to hear a VST that sounds truly like an analog synth isn't because your ear is that discerning -- it's because you already know that what you are hearing is a VST, so it is never given a fair chance because you will not open your mind to the fact that modern softsynths outperform old analog technology.
WithExtremePrejudice 1 year ago
@v1o Are you serious? 2ghz are a LOT of operations per second, even if processors are optimized for non arithmetical instructions. If VAs sound worse, it's not because of lack of processing power.
eFFeeMMe 1 year ago
I can tell the difference when i use the softsynth i have as a real synth too.
gombie 1 year ago
no offense, but this doesnt sound that much better than a softsynth to me...raspathon. If these things can get creamy bass and the pads everyone wants, then they should show it in these demos...
TheRealCritique 2 years ago 2
that is because you are listening to it through youtube..... the actual thing is amazing...
KaslarProductions 2 years ago
It's INSANE, this guy's taint.
solarsystemboots 2 years ago 8
is taint a good thing?
welovetrash 2 years ago 3
Whoa! That first patch is SO Erasure "Chorus".
It's a lot like old Depeche too.
Biopharmer 2 years ago
Also, if you take the time you will learn that Dave has done a lot more than this. Hmmmm where did MIDI come from?
ghoulssaid 2 years ago
IF you know how to use them, DSI products sound like a lot more than one voice.
ghoulssaid 2 years ago
this thing is a beast...
a few days ago i plugged this into a club´s p.a and the bass end of this baby shook everybody.
odinmp5 2 years ago
yes... that what i need to get, a video game soundtrack for my guitar
kickassclarke 2 years ago
the mopho taint misbehavin'
mastertrev 2 years ago
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It seems like a one trick pony... couldn't softsynths replace this easily?
Taud 2 years ago
@Taud Its analog, would be really really hard then.
djjessebase10 2 years ago
Well... maybe to big tone junkies but your audience doesnt know the difference man, seems like a waste of cash
Taud 2 years ago
did anyone else get the Mr. Show reference in the video title? lol
proqxis 2 years ago 3
Can it bes used with a guitar?
jaszzzi 2 years ago
you could plug into the audio input and use the filters, or you'll need a midi converter/pickup of some sort to control the synth
NJlo 2 years ago
Fantastic synth for heavy grimey bass and lots more nice noises.
djbuzzword 2 years ago
Dave Smith's small synths outsell Roland SH201's
Carsonduke1 2 years ago
That's to be expected really. It's real analouge. There is no keybed.., and the MoPho has no where near the real-time control as you find on the SH-201. Both units are great synths too. The MoPho's a great little box unit.., and the 201 is a nice VA unit with a lot of controllers, keybed, and a VERY simple user interface without all the menus.
squeakD 2 years ago
better than i thought
sikdelphi303 2 years ago
I'm new to these. Do you need a computer to use this or the new Tetr4?
oolooloo 2 years ago
just a MIDI controller
enthusia492 2 years ago
You don't need a computer for either but you can get deeper into editing the patches with the software available.
djbuzzword 2 years ago
can you plug a bass guitar into this? id love to see a vid of that if it worked
sukkyatlife 2 years ago
Its a great bargain for the price. Its monophonic, but you can get along this limitation by sampling the sound and playing chords...multitimbrality is easily excused if multi-tracked one track by one...you can great tight grooves, searing leads, shaking basses, etc.
I still prefer the Prophet 08 rack due to its great interface and 8 voices poly / 2 multi-timbral.
ncheriyan 2 years ago
GEARWIRE!!! TURN THE VOLUME UP!!!! wana hear it loud!
millenco 2 years ago 2
this is the real freaking deal.. this synth is not kidding!
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PHAEDRIDER 2 years ago
Uggh. Gearwire. The LisaNova of instrument reviews.
fredturd 2 years ago 27
Hey! Don't mess with LisaNova! ;)
MicroTones 2 years ago
Great review , I've posted it on switchedonsynthesizer.blogspot . com
Thalassa77 2 years ago
wow
falzaabi 2 years ago
that thing goes LOW! I might have to buy one now.
ming57 2 years ago