whats the up side to a dry clutch? i am in the market for a monster, and dont like the sound but in the long run will a dry clutch pan out. ps im not all that hard on my clutch
@leadandbrass1 they run cooler, and don't contaminate the engine oil, meaning the oil stays golden coloured for a lot longer. in operation they are quite similar to a wet clutch, but do need an occasional dust blow out of it has a closed cover.
@poldsmobile You are quite mistaken if you think a dry clutch runs cooler, no offence. They actually run much hotter and tend to wear out faster. Glazing can happen very quickly if you aren't careful due to the dry friction. They also sound like they're broken all the time.
A normal wet clutch does very little "contamination" of the engine oil, they run cooler, quieter and last many times longer due to the constant cleaning by engine oil. The oil also lubricates everything and is more forgiving
thanks for posting this. i saw one of these bad boys and fell in love with it even more than before. the sound was amazing in person and the rattling clutch gets attention. the one i saw had the pipes wrapped in fiberglass, which added great tone to the already fantastic exhaust.
Other than rotating in power robbing oil, the main reason for ducati's use of a dry clutch is to keep separate the lubricating oil from the friction material worn off the clutch plates in their high rpm race motors. Makes sense to me.
The dry clutch actually delivers more HP to the rear wheel than a wet clutch, because the dry clutch... well is obviously dry and air passing through it is what cleans it off. With a wet clutch, it spins through a oil bath and give some resistance.
@source93 its not better just different, dry clutches can offer quicker shifts and give you more horsepower to the wheel, but wet clutches are harder to wear out and give slightly less more horsepower, its all what you prefer, me i like wet clutches cause it seems like everywhere i go there some little kid in daddys car that thinks he can beat be, so i goof off and ride the clutch to see how easy i can make it for him and i still win, if i did that with dry clutch, id replace it every day
How long is a piece of string really. Mine has done just under 40k miles and is about to get it's 3rd set of clutch plates but is still on it's original basket. Until about 500 miles ago it has had the original closed cover on. I'm led to believe that a vented cover can help but an average of 20,000 miles per set of plates and a basket still going strong after 40k isn't too bad. Bottom line is, I assume, it depends on usage. Thanks for watching.
Your right on the way you ride a bike, ive noticed with an open cover it runs cooler giving it extended life, but riding in wet weather has the tendency to eat plates.
@adrianrubi it should actually last longer with an open cover, because it doesn't get contaminated by its own dust. Under use doesn't help either - my 900ss i.e. had only done 1500 miles in three years when I bought it, i've had it a month and done 700. when i got it the clutch was a bit snatchy and groaned a little, now its smooth and quiet.
The factual answer: Because it is a dry clutch. Dry clutches need slightly bigger slots in the basket to allow the plates to slide for engage/disengage. Since this isn't a wet clutch, there isn't any oil working as a dampener between contacting metal surfaces. Metal to metal equals rattle.
You didn't spot my sarcasm in the first place then LOL. Like you, I knew why they rattled but just thought it'd be a bit of fun to show one rattling in a diffrent way rather than just film one with the engine running as so many have done. Glad you watched it though :-)
please for the love of god don't say "dampener." Especially in such context that others will read this post, which for the record is a good response, and then proceed to start slinging around the incorrect word. Boils me alive when I hear "so guys what's the best steering dampener out there>" A motherfuckin fire hose that's what....oh wait, you meant Steering dampER, as in to prevent oscillation in the steering, well there's a few good brands...."
@kiroc89 I meant dampener.To reduce the sound of something is to dampen, to apply fluid or moisture is also DAMPEN! A fluid or a device that provides either of the fore mentioned is a dampener or dampening agent. A damper is used to apply restraint, friction or depression. You are correct about steering damper, but you cff'd. Look up the root word and educate yourself on which has to do with sound reduction. Pity I need to defend a 1 year old post from a troll.
"damping, in physics, restraining of vibratory motion, such as mechanical oscillations, noise, and alternating electric currents, by dissipation of energy."
Vibratory motion of metal objections = sound. oil is a still a damping agent. That my friend is from the encyclopedia britannica. But, whatever. You should send ency. britannica and every physics book publisher an email to tell them what's up.
@kiroc89 from Merriam Webster - to become deadened or depressed
— damp·en·er \-nər\ noun
From Merriam Webster's Learner's - 2 - to make (something) less strong or active
As I said, I meant dampening. If you can't handle this, maybe you need to either regulate your internet usage, fiber intake or both a bit better. Everyone should pursue goals in their lifetime, but you are the first I have met vying to be the spokesperson for the anal-retentive community. My apologies to the OP
@kiroc89 Try this: go to google.com. Type the word 'Sound' then a space, then type 'Damp' then stop! Look at the suggestions to follow. There is not one mention of the word DAMPER in the suggestions. In either case, whether to provide sound dampening or as a wetting agent, my context is correct. The topic of this post is: Ever wonder why Duc clutches rattle. Please look up the word 'context'. After you finish researching the word context, please unplug your ethernet cable.
I'm an engineer, it's my job to be anal-retentive. Funny, you must be using a different google because the number 1 response for either "sound damper" or "sound damping" is the wikipedia article for Soundproofing followed by a number of manufacturers specializing in sound proof materials like 3M and dynamat. Yet when I try it with "sound dampen" it immediately asks if I meant "sound damping." Hmmm. I'm done with this. If I said this in an engineering meeting I'd be laughed out.
I"LL GE THE DOOR!!!!
drift419 2 weeks ago
Ohh, because this explains it perfectly.
Omen4500 3 months ago
Hahaha I laughed, a more clear explanation couldn't be possible :)
fruithero 3 months ago
dinner time
TOMMYTOM78 5 months ago
I using this as my ringtone...
fonzireyes 5 months ago
Telephone ???
meisterjaeger0 6 months ago
ringa ringa ringa....foods ready!
bronxborn70 6 months ago
Informative and enlightening... and short.
Good vid.
Buelligan88 9 months ago
Can someone pick up the phone already!
nextgapdotcom 1 year ago
whats the up side to a dry clutch? i am in the market for a monster, and dont like the sound but in the long run will a dry clutch pan out. ps im not all that hard on my clutch
leadandbrass1 1 year ago
@leadandbrass1 they run cooler, and don't contaminate the engine oil, meaning the oil stays golden coloured for a lot longer. in operation they are quite similar to a wet clutch, but do need an occasional dust blow out of it has a closed cover.
poldsmobile 6 months ago
@poldsmobile thanks for the info, butt after all the time to put cash away for the ducati i had to get a new car
but i will start over and get me my monster
leadandbrass1 6 months ago
@poldsmobile You are quite mistaken if you think a dry clutch runs cooler, no offence. They actually run much hotter and tend to wear out faster. Glazing can happen very quickly if you aren't careful due to the dry friction. They also sound like they're broken all the time.
A normal wet clutch does very little "contamination" of the engine oil, they run cooler, quieter and last many times longer due to the constant cleaning by engine oil. The oil also lubricates everything and is more forgiving
gymkhanadog 3 months ago
haha i thought this was going to be a solution....i can appreciate your humor, BRAVO!
mikeymike3232 1 year ago
anyone want ice cream?
callmeapit 1 year ago
Come in!
klassetompa 1 year ago
lindo barulho!!!
bombeirobrasilia 1 year ago
@bombeirobrasilia Os sons amável não faz
srduke 1 year ago
thanks for posting this. i saw one of these bad boys and fell in love with it even more than before. the sound was amazing in person and the rattling clutch gets attention. the one i saw had the pipes wrapped in fiberglass, which added great tone to the already fantastic exhaust.
marcifer69 1 year ago
Other than rotating in power robbing oil, the main reason for ducati's use of a dry clutch is to keep separate the lubricating oil from the friction material worn off the clutch plates in their high rpm race motors. Makes sense to me.
jamesandrew2000 1 year ago 2
That is a great ring tone!!!!
WildmanR1 1 year ago
i'll get iiiiit !
Cloroethyl 1 year ago
DINNERRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
TOMMYTOM78 1 year ago
Hello, whos this?
GOBbluthagain 1 year ago
sounds like a fuckin phone
bl00dony0u 1 year ago
why is the dry clutch better then the wet one?
source93 2 years ago
Its not better, just some ppl prefer it. They say it has quicker shifts if you have a dry clutch. Me i just like the sound of the dry clutch lol
TheeeDoctorrr 2 years ago 3
The dry clutch actually delivers more HP to the rear wheel than a wet clutch, because the dry clutch... well is obviously dry and air passing through it is what cleans it off. With a wet clutch, it spins through a oil bath and give some resistance.
Dawnc06 2 years ago
@source93 its not better just different, dry clutches can offer quicker shifts and give you more horsepower to the wheel, but wet clutches are harder to wear out and give slightly less more horsepower, its all what you prefer, me i like wet clutches cause it seems like everywhere i go there some little kid in daddys car that thinks he can beat be, so i goof off and ride the clutch to see how easy i can make it for him and i still win, if i did that with dry clutch, id replace it every day
thrasha666 2 years ago
idiot guys...stick that spoon no meio do seu cu!!!
wladesmo 2 years ago
answer the phone!
HawK2KOne 2 years ago 73
how long does it take for the dry clutch to wear out and need replacement?
will open clutch covers help them wear out much faster?
adrianrubi 2 years ago
How long is a piece of string really. Mine has done just under 40k miles and is about to get it's 3rd set of clutch plates but is still on it's original basket. Until about 500 miles ago it has had the original closed cover on. I'm led to believe that a vented cover can help but an average of 20,000 miles per set of plates and a basket still going strong after 40k isn't too bad. Bottom line is, I assume, it depends on usage. Thanks for watching.
srduke 2 years ago
thanks for the info.
adrianrubi 2 years ago 2
Your right on the way you ride a bike, ive noticed with an open cover it runs cooler giving it extended life, but riding in wet weather has the tendency to eat plates.
BOBKB3NZX 2 years ago
@srduke hahaha...how long is a piece of string really...hahahah thats some funny shit.
drpeppero3 1 year ago
@adrianrubi it should actually last longer with an open cover, because it doesn't get contaminated by its own dust. Under use doesn't help either - my 900ss i.e. had only done 1500 miles in three years when I bought it, i've had it a month and done 700. when i got it the clutch was a bit snatchy and groaned a little, now its smooth and quiet.
poldsmobile 6 months ago
nice vid, helped me explain the rattle to the Delta-box crew.
wetsuitfan 2 years ago
Ei up there lad...very original rattle...it made me smile...Brruummm Brruumm!!!!
duci71k 3 years ago
The sarcastic answer: Are you joking?
The factual answer: Because it is a dry clutch. Dry clutches need slightly bigger slots in the basket to allow the plates to slide for engage/disengage. Since this isn't a wet clutch, there isn't any oil working as a dampener between contacting metal surfaces. Metal to metal equals rattle.
toofl3ss 3 years ago 2
You didn't spot my sarcasm in the first place then LOL. Like you, I knew why they rattled but just thought it'd be a bit of fun to show one rattling in a diffrent way rather than just film one with the engine running as so many have done. Glad you watched it though :-)
srduke 3 years ago
Very helpfull, thanks for explaining and sharing. No joke, i am serious.
karel350praha 2 years ago 26
@toofl3ss
please for the love of god don't say "dampener." Especially in such context that others will read this post, which for the record is a good response, and then proceed to start slinging around the incorrect word. Boils me alive when I hear "so guys what's the best steering dampener out there>" A motherfuckin fire hose that's what....oh wait, you meant Steering dampER, as in to prevent oscillation in the steering, well there's a few good brands...."
You are now a better man
kiroc89 1 year ago
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toofl3ss 1 year ago
@kiroc89 I meant dampener.To reduce the sound of something is to dampen, to apply fluid or moisture is also DAMPEN! A fluid or a device that provides either of the fore mentioned is a dampener or dampening agent. A damper is used to apply restraint, friction or depression. You are correct about steering damper, but you cff'd. Look up the root word and educate yourself on which has to do with sound reduction. Pity I need to defend a 1 year old post from a troll.
toofl3ss 1 year ago
@toofl3ss
"damping, in physics, restraining of vibratory motion, such as mechanical oscillations, noise, and alternating electric currents, by dissipation of energy."
Vibratory motion of metal objections = sound. oil is a still a damping agent. That my friend is from the encyclopedia britannica. But, whatever. You should send ency. britannica and every physics book publisher an email to tell them what's up.
kiroc89 1 year ago
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toofl3ss 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@kiroc89 from Merriam Webster - to become deadened or depressed
— damp·en·er \-nər\ noun
From Merriam Webster's Learner's - 2 - to make (something) less strong or active
As I said, I meant dampening. If you can't handle this, maybe you need to either regulate your internet usage, fiber intake or both a bit better. Everyone should pursue goals in their lifetime, but you are the first I have met vying to be the spokesperson for the anal-retentive community. My apologies to the OP
toofl3ss 1 year ago
@kiroc89 Try this: go to google.com. Type the word 'Sound' then a space, then type 'Damp' then stop! Look at the suggestions to follow. There is not one mention of the word DAMPER in the suggestions. In either case, whether to provide sound dampening or as a wetting agent, my context is correct. The topic of this post is: Ever wonder why Duc clutches rattle. Please look up the word 'context'. After you finish researching the word context, please unplug your ethernet cable.
toofl3ss 1 year ago
@toofl3ss
I'm an engineer, it's my job to be anal-retentive. Funny, you must be using a different google because the number 1 response for either "sound damper" or "sound damping" is the wikipedia article for Soundproofing followed by a number of manufacturers specializing in sound proof materials like 3M and dynamat. Yet when I try it with "sound dampen" it immediately asks if I meant "sound damping." Hmmm. I'm done with this. If I said this in an engineering meeting I'd be laughed out.
kiroc89 1 year ago