Bingo @ 7:35. Yolie gets put in her place. Im sick of these politicians always bringing up ethical and moral issues with the public when it is they who are corrupted and bought off by the multi million capitalists. Hats off to the lady who mentioned the financial side handouts Yolie is taking from special interests (Eli Braud) and her nice little job awaiting her after retirement. Too bad more people cant expose these politicians
NO, Blaine you're wrong on many counts - the stull process is a process of evaluation that teachers who are fully tenured undergo every two years. Two unsatisfactory stull evaluations can put a teacher's job in jeopardy despite tenure. How would you propose that teachers should be "filtered" and the "bad ones" are found and fired? Is it how well they kiss up to administration? How popular they are with students who don't want to do anything in class, but want the credit anyway?
Not only that, but where are you going to get the replacements? Do you really think they're lining up outside of Beaudry to come and teach at HP with budget cuts and all the behavior problems that occur in "regular" classes?
@skwash4 What does "jeopardy" mean? I would love to know and I dont mean to sound arrogant. Now I have a pressing question.. In "Waiting for Superman" which Im sure you've seen, teachers that run into trouble are sent to this "retraining" center where they do nothing. They sit around reading, sleep, and get paid. Is that a universal process or exclusive to the NY school board.
Blaine - Yes, a teacher CAN and does get removed even though he or she is tenured. I've seen it happen. Teaching is not like assembly line work. It involves getting people upset who have no right to be upset - bad grades that are earned - complaining about administration. Tenure has been acknowledged as a necessity for decades. It is intended to save teachers from pettiness and capriciousness. Without it, you don't have education. You have popularity measures.
@skwash4@skwash4 The fact is that tenure protects bad teachers. Firing a tenured teacher is expensive + long, so it makes the process nearly impossible. There are more lawyers+doctors losing their credentials in the US for underperformance than there are bad teachers - that is the real problem. If there is no efficient way to filter and remove the bad, then all you have is a polluted roster of instructors. Having apathetic teachers doens't help either.
And one last note; Tenure is not something that you have to maintain. There is no -"re-test" to see if you're up to the standard, so someone that was decent 15 years ago is not tested to see if they're good now. There is a fundamental problem with protecting jobs for people who are not performing to the standard... that's what this issue is about. Some teachers have dropped the ball because they were "safe" under the unions so of course they're upset.. they're the ones on the front-lines.
As a former graduate, I can say with a great amount of certainty that half of these students are not well versed in this argument. LISTEN to the video, theyre more concerned with maintaining HPHS culture (i.e powerpuff game, school colors) and repeating what the adults are saying. That young black girl probably had no prior knowledge of Ms Flores's "retirement" and yet, she brings it up. I -personally- do not know if thats true or not, but that young girl did not know that either.
Small schools aim to remove tenure and bring in teacher's who have had successful track records. I dont find it shocking to see the less than stellar teachers arguing this; their jobs are on the line if this goes through. Some of these teachers were teaching compound words in junior yr. "Sail+boat: is not high school curriculum. I had honors/AP all the way through and that was comparable to decent schools. Anything less is awful; it really is. This isn't about "taking over"
As a former HPHS 2003 graduate, I find this video to be terribly biased. To be fair, the small school movement is based on firing underperforming teachers in our schools, regardless of tenure. Tenure means you cannot be fired which is nice if you're a good teacher. Tenure backfires when underperforming teachers CANNOT be fired and this is the problem. Tenure is achieved after 2 yrs - that's a very short time to secure one's position regardless of performance.
Shes completely lost she knows all she said was bullshit we can have a great education without haveing to break it down she needs it to be sucure too i see everyday students jumping the fence and the school doesent care if the student is not caught she says peer bullshit a small school movement doesent support at all she needs to understand its going to kill our education small schools dont get test scores high students are smart we are not stupid she is a LIAR
Sounds like a lot of BS...there is always an excuse for everything. Students need to take school seriously, teachers need to connect with school pride and Yolie needs to be a teacher to know what she is talking about. She is a politician. We need a school going culture to move ahead instead of pointing fingers and having excuses for everything. Props to the people who spoke out but I don't find them credible. No debemos de ser pendejos, let's all get an education...stay informed. Resistance...
Yolie, the problem here is that it does not matter how many times you say something, it does not make it true. You are evil and everyone in the district can't wait for you to leave.
What a vile, pernicious, mendacious woman Flores-Aguilar is. She dodges the question about her corporate employer, The Gates Foundation, with the skill of a polished corporate executive. Until the PSC school privatization resolution is overturned, her legacy of giving away schools to corporate charters will go on unabated.
she's wrong she come unpreparaped she came late students ask good questions she lying she's not hearing our people which is our students she doesn't want to say to the questions my mom is very supportive she's in the back in red wats up mom lmao wow what a beautiful excuse
She is untruthful. When you take a parent to the emergency room, you dont leave them thete. You actually stay there, or she jus does not care abot he parents!
I'm proud of our HP students who were so well spoken at this meeting. Our HP kids are the best and the teachers are behind them 100%. We teachers don't want what's best for the school politicos....we want what is best for our kids!
If you are going to ask a question and post on youtube, atleast make sure you know what you are saying....look at 2:08, guy asks a question, t.tt.tt...turuly informed?
Funny how guy to the left looks left then right to see if anyone else notices the vocabulary mishap...lmfao!
wow, i just noticed that, the first question was, "How transparent is information being shared regarding Huntington Park High School changing into 5 small schools with Teachers, Parents, Administrators, Students and the Union. Later on she said hears what i'm hearing tht there is not going to be a football team..yayayadaah." She hadn't anything like that from us..
Wish the sound was better, but you don't even have to hear her, just watch her lips move and you can tell she's a Koolaid spokesperson. Too bad the kids weren't buying Koolaid that day. Adults could learn from those Spartan kids! Don't get fooled. Small Schools isn't about education. Numbers, adult-driven agendas, high-stakes testing, but NOT education!
I wasn't there, they ddnt want to let us in but I agree with everything. I'm glad tht some teachers are actually standing with us which are the students. Personally if I were a teacher I would too. Yolie got caught in her lies, and I agree tht she is going around our questions because she never responded to any of the questions..she's obviously lying but she thinks were naive and were going to believe those lies.. come on lady were smarter than tht
ugh that women was annoying me! ID LIKE TO THANK MS.RIEDE! FOR SPEAKING UP AND BEING A GREAT TEACHER I GIVE HER PROPS SHE OWNED YOLIE FLORES! that women didn't even answer our questions she went around them!
i wasn't expecting her to be so unpreparded! she didnt answer students questions instead she contradicted our responses and questions and quoting them "misinformation"- i take that as her saying "you can't possibly be asking these questions, who told you this?" "where are you getting this from?" she thinks we are not capable of asking such well thought out questions??
we really showed her, thats why she wont be coming for the next monday...she knows why.
RIDICULOUS!!!!!!! I am soo glad that i graduated the year before they did all of this because this is just stupid I don't know why they would change there whole system if it was working. all the small schools are going to do is mess up and confuse more and more students then later down the line they're going to change the system again. all because Obama said is was time for a change doesn't mean that its time for a change for everybody. some words of wisdom "Don't fix it if its not broken".
The students responses are so well thought out. It is a joy to teach such wonderful kids. Ms. Flores accuses people of lies and unethical conduct, yet claims not to be in the employ of the Gates Foundation. Who's lying now. Just listen. She gets caught in contradictions repeatedly.
the only thing yall don't want is to leave and get separated from your friends period...
MrAngelpa 7 months ago
Bingo @ 7:35. Yolie gets put in her place. Im sick of these politicians always bringing up ethical and moral issues with the public when it is they who are corrupted and bought off by the multi million capitalists. Hats off to the lady who mentioned the financial side handouts Yolie is taking from special interests (Eli Braud) and her nice little job awaiting her after retirement. Too bad more people cant expose these politicians
boston312 9 months ago
And is that "retraining" center considered being in jeopardy? Because that looks like a paid vacation.
Blaine003 9 months ago
NO, Blaine you're wrong on many counts - the stull process is a process of evaluation that teachers who are fully tenured undergo every two years. Two unsatisfactory stull evaluations can put a teacher's job in jeopardy despite tenure. How would you propose that teachers should be "filtered" and the "bad ones" are found and fired? Is it how well they kiss up to administration? How popular they are with students who don't want to do anything in class, but want the credit anyway?
skwash4 10 months ago
Not only that, but where are you going to get the replacements? Do you really think they're lining up outside of Beaudry to come and teach at HP with budget cuts and all the behavior problems that occur in "regular" classes?
skwash4 10 months ago
@skwash4 What does "jeopardy" mean? I would love to know and I dont mean to sound arrogant. Now I have a pressing question.. In "Waiting for Superman" which Im sure you've seen, teachers that run into trouble are sent to this "retraining" center where they do nothing. They sit around reading, sleep, and get paid. Is that a universal process or exclusive to the NY school board.
Blaine003 9 months ago
@Blaine003 it happens in LAUSD as well; they get placed in so called "rubber rooms"
Buenanueva1 8 months ago
Blaine - Yes, a teacher CAN and does get removed even though he or she is tenured. I've seen it happen. Teaching is not like assembly line work. It involves getting people upset who have no right to be upset - bad grades that are earned - complaining about administration. Tenure has been acknowledged as a necessity for decades. It is intended to save teachers from pettiness and capriciousness. Without it, you don't have education. You have popularity measures.
skwash4 10 months ago
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Blaine003 10 months ago
@skwash4 @skwash4 The fact is that tenure protects bad teachers. Firing a tenured teacher is expensive + long, so it makes the process nearly impossible. There are more lawyers+doctors losing their credentials in the US for underperformance than there are bad teachers - that is the real problem. If there is no efficient way to filter and remove the bad, then all you have is a polluted roster of instructors. Having apathetic teachers doens't help either.
Blaine003 10 months ago
And one last note; Tenure is not something that you have to maintain. There is no -"re-test" to see if you're up to the standard, so someone that was decent 15 years ago is not tested to see if they're good now. There is a fundamental problem with protecting jobs for people who are not performing to the standard... that's what this issue is about. Some teachers have dropped the ball because they were "safe" under the unions so of course they're upset.. they're the ones on the front-lines.
Blaine003 10 months ago
As a former graduate, I can say with a great amount of certainty that half of these students are not well versed in this argument. LISTEN to the video, theyre more concerned with maintaining HPHS culture (i.e powerpuff game, school colors) and repeating what the adults are saying. That young black girl probably had no prior knowledge of Ms Flores's "retirement" and yet, she brings it up. I -personally- do not know if thats true or not, but that young girl did not know that either.
Blaine003 10 months ago
Small schools aim to remove tenure and bring in teacher's who have had successful track records. I dont find it shocking to see the less than stellar teachers arguing this; their jobs are on the line if this goes through. Some of these teachers were teaching compound words in junior yr. "Sail+boat: is not high school curriculum. I had honors/AP all the way through and that was comparable to decent schools. Anything less is awful; it really is. This isn't about "taking over"
Blaine003 10 months ago
As a former HPHS 2003 graduate, I find this video to be terribly biased. To be fair, the small school movement is based on firing underperforming teachers in our schools, regardless of tenure. Tenure means you cannot be fired which is nice if you're a good teacher. Tenure backfires when underperforming teachers CANNOT be fired and this is the problem. Tenure is achieved after 2 yrs - that's a very short time to secure one's position regardless of performance.
Blaine003 10 months ago
BS She Didnt Take Her Mom She Lieing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Kranky VSOMLS Said This Not This User
Famik420ER 10 months ago
Shes completely lost she knows all she said was bullshit we can have a great education without haveing to break it down she needs it to be sucure too i see everyday students jumping the fence and the school doesent care if the student is not caught she says peer bullshit a small school movement doesent support at all she needs to understand its going to kill our education small schools dont get test scores high students are smart we are not stupid she is a LIAR
Famik420ER 10 months ago
I respect all of you who took part of this ,i sure wish i would have been part of this .She clearly is ignorat ,and doesnt even belive her BS.
We werent born yesterday you know -__-
estef44 11 months ago
Sounds like a lot of BS...there is always an excuse for everything. Students need to take school seriously, teachers need to connect with school pride and Yolie needs to be a teacher to know what she is talking about. She is a politician. We need a school going culture to move ahead instead of pointing fingers and having excuses for everything. Props to the people who spoke out but I don't find them credible. No debemos de ser pendejos, let's all get an education...stay informed. Resistance...
almadermusic 11 months ago
Yolie, the problem here is that it does not matter how many times you say something, it does not make it true. You are evil and everyone in the district can't wait for you to leave.
codyandmax 11 months ago
Yolie is a liar.
codyandmax 11 months ago
What a vile, pernicious, mendacious woman Flores-Aguilar is. She dodges the question about her corporate employer, The Gates Foundation, with the skill of a polished corporate executive. Until the PSC school privatization resolution is overturned, her legacy of giving away schools to corporate charters will go on unabated.
rdsathene 11 months ago
she's wrong she come unpreparaped she came late students ask good questions she lying she's not hearing our people which is our students she doesn't want to say to the questions my mom is very supportive she's in the back in red wats up mom lmao wow what a beautiful excuse
david18921 11 months ago
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david18921 11 months ago
she didn't answer our questions she was unprepared i am to say that yolie flores should of answer our questions and she didnt
david18921 11 months ago
She is untruthful. When you take a parent to the emergency room, you dont leave them thete. You actually stay there, or she jus does not care abot he parents!
gramirez1971 11 months ago
I'm proud of our HP students who were so well spoken at this meeting. Our HP kids are the best and the teachers are behind them 100%. We teachers don't want what's best for the school politicos....we want what is best for our kids!
fundogsla 1 year ago
If you are going to ask a question and post on youtube, atleast make sure you know what you are saying....look at 2:08, guy asks a question, t.tt.tt...turuly informed?
Funny how guy to the left looks left then right to see if anyone else notices the vocabulary mishap...lmfao!
damook91 1 year ago
Thats the Homie joel my twin.. thats wassup!
thuggmario 1 year ago
wow, i just noticed that, the first question was, "How transparent is information being shared regarding Huntington Park High School changing into 5 small schools with Teachers, Parents, Administrators, Students and the Union. Later on she said hears what i'm hearing tht there is not going to be a football team..yayayadaah." She hadn't anything like that from us..
3TicTic 1 year ago
Wish the sound was better, but you don't even have to hear her, just watch her lips move and you can tell she's a Koolaid spokesperson. Too bad the kids weren't buying Koolaid that day. Adults could learn from those Spartan kids! Don't get fooled. Small Schools isn't about education. Numbers, adult-driven agendas, high-stakes testing, but NOT education!
Yari1066 1 year ago
I wasn't there, they ddnt want to let us in but I agree with everything. I'm glad tht some teachers are actually standing with us which are the students. Personally if I were a teacher I would too. Yolie got caught in her lies, and I agree tht she is going around our questions because she never responded to any of the questions..she's obviously lying but she thinks were naive and were going to believe those lies.. come on lady were smarter than tht
omeLlete08 1 year ago
lmfao ! sick Shut that bitch up...
liddoraver24 1 year ago
ugh that women was annoying me! ID LIKE TO THANK MS.RIEDE! FOR SPEAKING UP AND BEING A GREAT TEACHER I GIVE HER PROPS SHE OWNED YOLIE FLORES! that women didn't even answer our questions she went around them!
jazzyjazzo09 1 year ago
MAJOR FCKN PROPS TO THOSE TEACHERS THAT ARE SOO PASSIONITE ABOUT THEIR JOBS ND WANT THE BEST EDUCATION POSSIBLE FOR THE STUDENTS!
rickthedick1993 1 year ago
wow, gett 'em Joel(:
i wasn't expecting her to be so unpreparded! she didnt answer students questions instead she contradicted our responses and questions and quoting them "misinformation"- i take that as her saying "you can't possibly be asking these questions, who told you this?" "where are you getting this from?" she thinks we are not capable of asking such well thought out questions??
we really showed her, thats why she wont be coming for the next monday...she knows why.
3TicTic 1 year ago
RIDICULOUS!!!!!!! I am soo glad that i graduated the year before they did all of this because this is just stupid I don't know why they would change there whole system if it was working. all the small schools are going to do is mess up and confuse more and more students then later down the line they're going to change the system again. all because Obama said is was time for a change doesn't mean that its time for a change for everybody. some words of wisdom "Don't fix it if its not broken".
Cyriss92 1 year ago
The students responses are so well thought out. It is a joy to teach such wonderful kids. Ms. Flores accuses people of lies and unethical conduct, yet claims not to be in the employ of the Gates Foundation. Who's lying now. Just listen. She gets caught in contradictions repeatedly.
scanlan8700 1 year ago