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  • ony 2 words: SOFLAM+Javelin

  • increadable tank -

  • @chaziztheman but think, wen is hmg and tank fire afect u besides the clip shown here. Missles and jets and AA are all u need to worry about.

    And in the clip where he got shot by the tank, he cudv just landed and repaired.

  • @nartules if ur an average pilot, but if a and another heli r facing each other, if u dive stait under them, they will either a) attempt to shoot u as u decend, causing them to over shoot u, b) turn around attempting to catch u come out on the other side, or c) stay above u, allowing u to regain helth. Plus if ur under 25 altitude(and assuming the pilot can keep u from crashing) below radar will make it impossible to lock on, making the gunner the only problem.

  • naw bro ecm jammer all the way

  • I just wanted to know how the extinguisher sounded like. :)

  • for scout helicopters, extinguisher is useless

  • I thought it was useless will try.

  • Yeah it's so effective against a guided shell oh ma gawd! [/sarcasm]

  • That tank driver was like "Ye---! Aww fuck!"

  • Ive found if you have stealth and ecm jammer as the pilot and the gunner has flares, its hard to get laser painted (because of stealth and ecm jammer working togeather) and when you get targeted your gunner hits flares. By that time your ecm is back up and you just continue the cycle. as long as you can time it perfectly and hit ecm just before getting locked on, its hard to get knocked outta the sky (unless a damn jet crashes into you, flipping you upside down, grrrr)

  • @beenerkillz That is the best tac by far, just need a good pair up of gunner pilot.

  • @beenerkillz you dont really need to go so overkill in that area of jamming. just because you are painted, doesnt always mean you are in range of lets say a jav. once something is locked on you, just back to a safe zone, and if its mobile, use flares. Plus, you do have a gunner that provides the best defense of all: killing the enemy lol

  • ECM/Flares I find is the best combo available. Then you just have to worry about suicide Pilots.

    If another chopper is fighting you, diving down to the ground and loosing all tactical advantage you had to recover from your wounds...just means you get killed 15 seconds later.

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  • @CJW249 all rokets that lock on are guided missiles

  • OR you could be an engineer and l2land

  • Yeah i love using it, its way underestimated but dont use it when another guy has laser pointer lol

  • Tits

  • i definitely respect you using the extinguisuher i myself prefer two sets of flares but one flare and one extinguisher has worked for me before

  • it's nerfed :D

  • Used to be good but the update ruined it - stick to jammers or flares!

    It was good because when your flying low altitude and capturing flaps the main things that kill you are the main cannons on tanks and rpgs. But with this you could just spin around and rape them!

    Now it's crap because they could throw a tooth pick at you after you extinguish and then you would burn to death before the extinguisher could regenerate!

    Oh and the over team love it because it's free points!

  • Only time this is useful is when taking on a target you didn't know about and manages to score a hit, but if you're skilled enough you know about them before hand. It also helps to have a gunner with flares if you are going to insist on this.

  • extinguisher all the way but i use it in jets

  • all depends on driver,teams and game.Extinguisher works if you fly in fast paste,Most will dodge the rockets unless your in mid air,Timing is also needed,Extinguisher only work if on fire don't blow your load on 1 missile hit.Overall don't use extinguisher unless your pro.

  • @roddthomassie93 Its fast paced, not fast paste you fucking idiot. I bet you brought things instead of bought them as well.

  • @bigbadryster You understood what I was saying so why point it out? Most people worry about a missed placed part in a car not a missed spelled word.Its Youtube Not School...

  • @bigbadryster lololol wut did the comment u replied to say ?

  • @bigbadryster Giving people shit for misspelling is immature, but this made me laugh.

  • Flares can't save you from Machine Guns, don't they?

  • @BansheeHallow Extinguisher neither Any skilled pilot gets you from 100 to 0 in less then 2 seconds and the theoretical 35% extra hp will not change that

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  • yeah yeah yeah extinguishers are nice but ya know... flares...

  • I find it pretty easy to dodge Missiles so I always use Extinguisher just in case

  • Top comments missed the fact he was struck by a 120mm round in the second example...

  • i guess when you get good enough you dont need flares and can dodge them

  • How do you hit the extinguisher when your not hit b/c i see how other people do it when there locked on...

  • and then they lock on again and completely take you out with your puny 37% health

  • flares are useless if the pilot dosent know how to use the correctly 90% of the time i start locking on and they release their flares and then i just wait and i got a free shot cuz they have to w8 for their flares to reset so thats my theory why noobs should use extinguisher

  • dont u think flares is better..?

  • Extinguisher is good in core, in hardcore however when vehicles don't heal themself, in the jets etc its better to have Flares/ECM jammer, and if you need too, too land the vehicle and repair it :D

  • this is good in jets because heat seakers can be easily out maneuvered so fk flares

  • @xVanhalen93x if u get hit by a normal tank shell u should proberly know ur not flying around since it is extremly hard to hit choppers for tanks with the normal shell just never fly directly at them or like never hover in front of them

  • or you could ise flares and not get hit at all

  • @dddggr how is a flare supose to save you from tank shells or other non lock on weapons?

  • @Neves7561 easy, you do not fly as low, when your that low you gunner cant do shit... you do strife's back and forth only turn when your far enough away for tank shell not to hit and your ECM reset.

  • @dddggr ever heard of cooldown...

  • @dddggr yes but what about from AA gun fire? you cant flare bullets....

  • @dddggr ECM Jammer is 100 times better. My opinion.

  • @dddggr the idea of extinguishers is that u dont need flares because there are manuvers that allow you to dodge rockets

  • @dddggr Yeah, because they stop tank shells...

  • @dddggr When i fly i use Extinguisher and my gunner uses flares. Great combo. You have the flares and a great way to heal and stay up.

  • @dddggr Not when against guided missiles..

  • @CJW249 the upcoming patch is going to make flares distract guided missiles as well as heat seekers :)

  • @dddggr OH BOY :D

  • @dddggr What are you going to do about TV missiles, guided missiles, tank rounds, HMG fire, etc.?

    Flares only stop heat-seeking missles. I think the extinguisher is far more effective.

  • @chaziztheman guided missiles are usually one hit kill so yea

  • @dontwhine1 It really depends on the heli's health. If it's at 100% health, the missile will bring it down to 9%, disabling it. But if you use extinguisher it brings it right back up to in the 30's.

  • @dddggr Or be a better player and not rely on second chances..

  • @dddggr ECM is better

  • @dddggr but does it help you with machine guns?

  • @dddggr :37 - :40...Whats the Flare gonna do there?

  • @xVanhalen93x how often are you honestly hit with a tank round? not often enough to justify using extinguisher

  • @xVanhalen93x yeah thats for fucking sure.

    EMC jammer and Extinguisher are only good according to your play style.

    now go pwn some noobs

  • @xVanhalen93x that is true, but the extinguisher takes 30+ seconds to recharge while the ECM jammer replenishes in about 15+ seconds. Within the 30 seconds mentioned, the enemy can reload and shoot you again. With the jammer, by the time the enemy reloads, you are ready to deflect the new missiles. the extinguisher is basically a one-time-use unless you successfully run away from your opponent in time to recharge without be barraged by another volley of rounds. this is EXTREMELY unlikely.

  • @s0m3wh1t36uy Exactly why the ECM needs a nerf. :3

  • @AmerikanRejekt no, just get some skill and use the jet's minigun instead of lock-ons

  • @xVanhalen93x

    there's a greater chance of getting locked on to than being shot by a tank.........

  • on voit rien...

    

  • But with ECM for pilot and flares gunner you wont even get hit ...

  • Doesn't Do you any good in Hard Core

    

  • why put out the fire when you can just prevent it??

    ECM jammer FTW!!!!!!!!!

  • call me n00b, but i dont know how to activate the extinguisher ( im a colonel 2) any help

  • @RxFlecT As far as I know, the extinguisher replaces your flares, so I'd try the same button you use to launch flares.

  • @RxFlecT 1st...unlock it then equip it

    2nd click the flare button when you are on fire

    3rd done..wait for it to reload

  • @gilbertobrown thanks for your help :)

  • im watching battlefield i dont, havent owned, played the game

  • @randomstuff676 beans i dont like ,i do eat ,never ate,cant really digest beans,sometimes

  • if you had the opportunity to not get hit versus repairing a third of the damage done to you on the ground its a no brain choice, the same is true in any vehicle. not getting hit > repairing a small amount of damage from a hit

  • Extinguisher is useful, but without ECM or Flares you're just going to take more damage than the Extinguisher can handle.

  • just wait untill the scout choppers hit you with guided...

  • I see how the extinguisher is helpful, but if you use the ECM jammer or flares, you can avoid getting hit in the first place. (most of the times). And you have no help to approach and take out a Soflam if you've spotted it. The ECM is great for that. Not convinced that the extinguisher is better than ECM or Flares at all.

  • @Finq08 Well if you make a mistake and badly damage your helicopter, you can use the extinguisher where the flares and ECM would never have done anything at all.

  • @Finq08

    for sure man. But don't forget dodging heatseekers with nothing at all can be done pretty easily.

  • @Dabomb1237 What ? dodging heatseekers with a choppa ? tell me how please (dont tell me hide behind a cover lol i know that)

  • @BJGunners Just time your turns right. Missiles will hit the tail of the chopper without doing any real damage. Not sure if its a bug or what but useful none the less.

  • @KaupunkiApina sorry im french, what means "time your turns right" ? i got to put my tail agaisnt the incoming stinger ?

  • @BJGunners

    well, I was honestly thinking about jets for some reason. In a chopper? Your screwed all the way to the ass in that case.

  • @Dabomb1237 I would say on most maps, that's pretty much impossible with a helicopter. There's no way you dodge a stinger shot from underneath you on an open map. You just won't get behind cover quick enough and flying steep turns will not work in a chopper. And let's say you fight another chopper and he's right infront of you, minimal lock on distance and fires two rockets. Theres no way you can dodge those without flares. And even if you make it, the other chopper will be above you

  • @Dabomb1237 And another chopper above you is always fucksville.

  • @Finq08

    haha, for sure man.

  • @Finq08 Well, is it better to take a hit or NOT take a hit? :D

  • @Agent1W It's better to not take a hit, that's why I said the ECM or Flares are way more useful than the extinguisher.

  • @Finq08

    I dont think he was trying to convince anyone that the extinguisher was better. He only recommends it and I suppose to at least give it a try. Everyone has their own style, so the extinguisher could be very beneficial for some :]

  • @JumboStevo The extinguisher is probably pretty helpful if you're trying to attack an AA dead on. But if you dont have a gunner with flares, it's hopeless attempting any sort of attack on anything.

  • @Finq08 the thing is, you can equip flares/ecm jammer and your gunner can equip extinguisher, or the reverse. That's what the uploader was referring to in the description: to have a nearly indestructible chopper, use this combination that will get heat seekers off you and that will give you quick repair when all else fails

  • @yomama629 I didn't know the gunner can equip the extinguisher. That in fact makes a lot of sense and I'll try that sometime.

  • @Finq08 BUT if the gunner have flares...PROBLEM SOLVED! :D

  • @Finq08 what if they shoot at you and don't fire missiles?

  • @Finq08 but extinguisher defends against more then just missiles. if you run maintenance, extinguisher and below radar, you can do really well while taking a lot of heat.

  • /watch?v=jr5CS9YcRjw Check it out! :)

  • LMFAO you guys woulda been dead against me lol fuck ur extinguisher

  • @l3joint You're just mad because you rely on the USAS+Frag rounds. <3

  • @aztaclalz Dude that is the funniest thing iv heard in weeks,good one..i despise that gun and anyone who uses it...

  • @l3joint Give yourself a break then, sport.

  • The tank deserved the kill... God I can't wait for this patch. I hit 2 jets today and neither died. I hit one with a god damn rpg!

  • U won't be able to take a tank shell anymore and survive in the new patch, instant kill.

  • Stupid COD....

  • i love the viper or the ah-64 in bf3 becuz its just like piloting a gundam :D

  • don't tell these dicks that then thell get mad rage and say extinguisher is a op perk

  • Or you could just altnerate using flares with the gunner

  • Extinguisher+Maintenence is a seriously underrated combo, and the reason I raged so hard about the AA missiles having thier damage nerffed below 50%. So the pilots were sick of burning down? Tell them to equip the Fire Extinguisher then, that's what it's for! But no, they nerffed the AA missile instead, and now the Guided Tank Shell is the best AA weapon. Derp.

  • Always that IU watch these BF3 videos, it makes me want so hard to go play tha game and do that. But when I finally get the chopper I try to do it and it does not work, I just rage quit xD

  • I dont care if you put out the fire. if you have a missing chunk in your engine you should go down lol

  • ECM/IR is better.

  • You are quite a skilled flyer, could you give me some tips?

  • @NevynTube

    if your one of the peeps who get in and crash just start up by keeping it level. if you need to lower sensitivity and just get good at simple same level manoevres. then you can play around with levelling later

  • @NevynTube hahahahhahaha

  • Best combo is ECM-pilot, IR Flares-gunner, and repair torch on your person in case you have to land and fix it. Extinguisher is better for jets because its nearly impossible to land a jet, repair it, and take off again.

  • @iELCAPiTAN landing a jet is easy ... lol

  • the ECM/IR flare combo is better imo

  • 0:36 DENIED! XD

  • do you use keyboard and mouse? that seems to fluid to be a kb and mouse.

  • which is better for aggressive tactics?

  • @bernielovesbutter Now that everybody has heat seekers, flairs are better to use. Also rocket pods/guided for ground attacking instead of HS for air for that reason. When dogfighting, always use your guns because rockets will fail you. Ive seen many-a-noob fall victim to skilled pilots when they realise their rockets are useless in areal combat.

  • so, the pilot takes the extinguisher and gunner takes flares?

  • Nice im going to try this now

  • @PuddingzProductions If one or more people lock onto him, the flare is useless. Also, because he is good at flying he is flying low through the trees, it makes him hard to hit and hard to lock onto so he isnt really worrying about jets, hes worrying about damage overall.

  • We don't take critical damage in our helicopter. Even if we do (rarely), we land and repair with dual engineers. Soo... no need for extinguisher.

  • BF3 - Why the Extinguisher is so annoying

  • are the extinguishers automatci?

  • @Romeolo888 No, you have to press the flare button once you're disabled.

  • if you had extinguisher and your co pilot had flares it would be really hard to take you down not even including stealth lol

  • usi estintore

  • I never get a chance to use extinguishers when I have it equipped. For some reason if I'm in a jet or chopper if I take one missile hit anywhere I die before the vehicle has taken critical damage.

  • @bigred2989 That sometimes happens to me I have full heath and the Jet has full health and for some reason I die and in the helicopters i get kill but the other person on the helicopter doesn't.

  • I use extinguisher in jets, I evade the missiles, and use the extinguisher when I get shot up...

  • Lol guys it's jigsaw at 00:8

  • so it makes it so it wont be disabled?

  • A... potion... ?...

  • Lol what about javelin hits you, its instant kill and you have no ECM- fail

    moreover no stealth works on soflam+jav

  • @lucidstorm123 yup and tank shots soon will be one hit kill

  • It would be interesting if choppers could deploy smoke like tanks

  • @AppleJacK3r it deploys flaes

  • thats trollface right there LOL

  • y does this crap even exist?

  • sorry but ecm/flares are still king. i can land and repair even after double missile hit (9%) with my engi gunner in about 3 seconds to full, but if we cycle our stuff right, it's almost impossible to get a chopper down w/o air/aa support.

    1st lock-on, break with ECM, 2nd, flare as soon as missiles are in the air, 3rd - ecm, 4th, if they're really locking on fast, you have to take, 55%, 5th, flares, 6th, ecm and you're at 70+% by then, so on 7th, you're still not disabled if you get hit

  • @hellario2 Did you think about how long it would take to find a landing spot and land if you're flying high and have 9%l left of health. I usually fly jets but they are not nearly as powerful as helicopters which is why I started flying them now but when I wanna take a heli down with a jet I slow down as much as I can and fire a full burst at it which should disable it if done correctly then do a loop and dive for the kill. The point is there's nothing ECM or flares can do about it.

  • @kevin1311 Don't get me wrong I think you're strategy is correct but sometimes I think having the extinguisher might be useful, especially when tanks are also trying to take you down.

  • javelin, tank , and tv missile got your viper on 1 hit down so you can't fix it if you are dead :) it's good yeah but whit a copilot whit smoke :)

  • most of the time your gunner bails as soon as you get hit by one missle

  • Both the gunner and pilot have to got flares, that way, the chance begin hit is alot smaller

  • @JurgenCutters hey man nice videos, in particular the Javelin squads

    Do you happen to know how long the Extinguisher takes to be replenished? Also how long after using it does it take for auto-maintenance to kick in?

    Thanks, keep up the good work

  • @69DangerousD

    Extinguisher reload time: 11 seconds.

    Time for repair to kick in: 12,5 seconds (8,5 seconds with maintenance)

  • @JurgenCutters missles 5 seconds.

  • @JurgenCutters sitting on the side and reparing the thing with your repair tool: instantly :D (by aiming at a wing or a gun of the chopper)

  • heli perks set up the best for me is: pilot: maintenance then extinguisher, heat seekers/ my gunner has auto loader, flares, guided missle

  • Haha extinguishers are the best by far, I fly jets all the time and what happens in a jet dogfight where they get you to low health with the chaingun? He sees the disabled and flies away, and that's when I use extinguishers and shoot him in the ass. Works every time.

  • air is overpowered should be patch

  • @01matre111 its not!

    lots of anti- air vehicles makes it hard to survive, and. throught all those forreste, the heli, will never find you

  • @01matre111 its called above and beyond the call for a reason ... theres a reason why they give you AA guns and Stingers and Iglas ... so no air is not overpowered it takes 2 people that are perfectly in sync to do amazing thats why its rare to see helicopter teams do great unless they have perfect perk setups that match the conditions of the map

  • @01matre111 and if they did then you would complain that ground is overpowered

  • i dnt think extinguisher cant save u from a guided missile, just saying. also id never take a chance getting hit like this with a missile due to the fact that sometimes theres a direct impact kill straight to your characters body and not destroying the chopper, same applies to jets. (NEEDS TO BE FIXED IMO!) nice vid on showing a demonstration of using extinguisher tho.

  • Now that wouldnt happen if u had flares instead...

  • id say its effective if you dont have alot of soflams. jav vs chopper is 1 hit KO i find ecm more effective. it just based on the updates.now if they nerf the jav them im going back to fire extinguisher

  • all this video proves is you got into a situation where you had an OH SHIT moment and decided to use your extinguisher, upload a video of you never dieing using this loadout. Let me see a video of you going 30k-0d if its so good.

  • ummmm... ecm or flares don't deflect bullets, do they