Molti dei difetti che avete trovato (ritmo lento, coro disorientato, sguardi lontani) credo siano colpa della direzione artistica del teatro, che quanto ad allestimenti non è mai maestra. Se ascoltate Raimondi nello stesso brano in altro video, vi apparirà già molto meglio
It's difficult not to agree with you. But till now, this role seems to have been sung by such many barytones, that I think that the opera world has changed a bit....
I've never understood why some consider Raimondi a great singer, much less a great singing actor. His young voice did have a rich, handsome, coppery timbre. Those qualities had long since dried out when 63-year-old Raimondi made this video. And one cannot sing basso cantante without a bass register. His acting is OK at best. I think he was (is?) a dramatic baritone in the rough, who never found the right teacher to help him reach that potential. Just my humble opinion --
@milandinic1977 that is because mephisto gives the croud something to look at and sings his aria to the audience, just like: look I told you, the gold does that.
Raimondi is my favourite bass-baritone! Absolutely great, although I think, that at least the beginning of this aria was a little slow conducted, at least for my taste. I like the beginning to be faster. ^^
Da trenta anni mi chiedo ,ma quale e la vera voce di " MAESTRO" RAIMONDI E non trovo LA RISPOSTA ! E baritono leggero,basso-buffo,baritono verdiano comico ?
@ranigema grazie per il complimento!!! aggiungerei anche che questo commento sboccia dall'amore per questa Arte e dal rispetto per i Compositori e per gli Artisti che ci hanno preceduto: cosa che evidentemente questi signori non hanno. Lasciano il tempo che trovano, ad un orecchio attento ed avvezzo al buon gusto ed al buon canto (come il suo e modestamente il mio) appaiono solo come cani attaccati ad un misero osso. Buona Giornata sign raginema
@ranigema grazie per il complimento!!! aggiungerei anche che questo commento sboccia dall'amore per questa Arte e dal rispetto per i Compositori e per gli Artisti che ci hanno preceduto: cosa che evidentemente questi signori non hanno. Lasciano il tempo che trovano, ad un orecchio attento ed avvezzo al buon gusto ed al buon canto (come il suo e modestamente il mio) appaiono solo come cani attaccati ad un misero osso. Buona Giornata sign raginema
Having sung with him in his production of Don Giiovanni and the Damnation de Faust I can say he is not a bass, more light bass-baritone. When he try's to sing the real bass roles his voice goes into dull mode and it flattens badly, listen to his Forza recording and Don Carlos to see what I mean but and it,s a big but It was at times a very beautiful sound when singing roles that suited him.
@jamesjmertins. You're getting red arrowed for this impudent remark, I'm not surprised. But it's true, Raimondi is no good at the bass repertoire, he's got no power under C3, even shameful for a baritone.
it's funny, you mentioned him being a tenor, may be, you are right. I just listened to one tenor, here on youtube, singing le veau d'or. believe me, much better then Raimondi(though the orchestration was quite wierd, some kind of a rock type)
Tibett had amazing voice of a great quality, his relatively short career was due to his 110% giving. The tenor's name is Franco Tenelli-weird version but vocals to my view better then one of Raimondi's
per me Raimondi e stato il piú grande Mephisto ever. Nessuno ha fatto chiaro come lui il lato pericoloso del diavolo perche cosi inquietantemente afascinante , e che humour!!! ma in questa orrenda produzione solo un grande come lui puo uscirne indenne
The performance is strangely staged, but Ruggero Raimondi is great as always! His performance is not geriatric and his tone is not flat. As for his French pronunciation, let's not nitpick, OK? When you all start singing as beautifully as he does, then you have the right to criticize his singing.
Nah, he was never a bass. Hear his La Calunnia, compare it to Ghiaurov's, and you'll see for sure that Raimondi is, well not really bass-baritone, but one idea lower than baritone lol. Anyways, I'm not a fan of his singing.
Yo admiro a este señor, de verdad. En mi opinión, vocalmente está más apto para los papeles de barítonos, como Escamillo o Scarpia; pero, por otro lado, tiene una capacidad interpretativa que le permite generar un Don Basilio adorable y un Mefistófeles muy histriónico, en el registro de bajo.
Quizá no aplaudan porque el público es italiano, y no es muy dado al aplauso espontáneo, sino que se manifiestan sólo cuando finaliza el acto completo.
Molti dei difetti che avete trovato (ritmo lento, coro disorientato, sguardi lontani) credo siano colpa della direzione artistica del teatro, che quanto ad allestimenti non è mai maestra. Se ascoltate Raimondi nello stesso brano in altro video, vi apparirà già molto meglio
FloriaTosca90 9 months ago
Depuis le temps qu'il chante mal,il dure:Aurait-il fait un pacte???
En tout cas,pas une claque après son air:Le chef a pourtant attendu,mais rien !!!
Le public napolitain n'est pas dupe...
abracadabranque 1 year ago 12
o r r e n d o!
ranigema 1 year ago 6
It's difficult not to agree with you. But till now, this role seems to have been sung by such many barytones, that I think that the opera world has changed a bit....
lehar 1 year ago
I've never understood why some consider Raimondi a great singer, much less a great singing actor. His young voice did have a rich, handsome, coppery timbre. Those qualities had long since dried out when 63-year-old Raimondi made this video. And one cannot sing basso cantante without a bass register. His acting is OK at best. I think he was (is?) a dramatic baritone in the rough, who never found the right teacher to help him reach that potential. Just my humble opinion --
stevevandien 1 year ago
He is not quick enough when he makes the pic appears. looks stupid
cyparris3 1 year ago
à 2: 49 un silenzio totale dopo quale i coristi cantano : merci de ta chanson...
bodiloto 2 years ago 20
@bodiloto L'admiration,sans doute...Non?..
Ciao!
abracadabranque 1 year ago 6
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@bodiloto L'admiration,sans doute...Non?..
Ciao!
abracadabranque 1 year ago
Why? The are wearing sneakers? LoL!!!
Regietheaterdreckweg 2 years ago
defenetly slow conducting. Ruggero should sing to citizens and he didn t even look at crowd.
milandinic1977 2 years ago
@milandinic1977 that is because mephisto gives the croud something to look at and sings his aria to the audience, just like: look I told you, the gold does that.
At least, that's how it looks to me ;-)
ElisabettaVS 2 years ago
Raimondi is my favourite bass-baritone! Absolutely great, although I think, that at least the beginning of this aria was a little slow conducted, at least for my taste. I like the beginning to be faster. ^^
ElisabettaVS 2 years ago
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bodiloto 2 years ago
jamesmertins : Very good observation and comment !!
Still Ruggero was superb in roles which suited him - as you said.
energyglobal 2 years ago
On dirait qu'il force comme un taré sur sa voix.
Ce n'est que mon opinion mais soit il n'est pas en forme, soit ce n'est pas sa tessiture.
en tout cas, il y a un problème.
Masicians 2 years ago 4
Il se fait vieux, tout simplement. Mais même au faite de sa gloire il avait du mal avec les rôles de basse.
saintsaens21 2 years ago
Da trenta anni mi chiedo ,ma quale e la vera voce di " MAESTRO" RAIMONDI E non trovo LA RISPOSTA ! E baritono leggero,basso-buffo,baritono verdiano comico ?
bodiloto 2 years ago
Baritono Panzzani,SI, si !
louvet66 2 years ago 36
ahahah sei un grande guarda!! secondo me non è nemmeno un bartino comico..cioè è comico come canta, si...il suo scarpia sembra belfagor
nnsochedirti 2 years ago 4
@nnsochedirti "sembra belfagor"?hihihihihihihihihihihihihihi,
ma che commento hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi
tu sei uno dei pochi giovani che ha un buon orecchio!
"sembra belfagor"hihihihihihihihihihihihi
ranigema 1 year ago
@ranigema grazie per il complimento!!! aggiungerei anche che questo commento sboccia dall'amore per questa Arte e dal rispetto per i Compositori e per gli Artisti che ci hanno preceduto: cosa che evidentemente questi signori non hanno. Lasciano il tempo che trovano, ad un orecchio attento ed avvezzo al buon gusto ed al buon canto (come il suo e modestamente il mio) appaiono solo come cani attaccati ad un misero osso. Buona Giornata sign raginema
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@ranigema grazie per il complimento!!! aggiungerei anche che questo commento sboccia dall'amore per questa Arte e dal rispetto per i Compositori e per gli Artisti che ci hanno preceduto: cosa che evidentemente questi signori non hanno. Lasciano il tempo che trovano, ad un orecchio attento ed avvezzo al buon gusto ed al buon canto (come il suo e modestamente il mio) appaiono solo come cani attaccati ad un misero osso. Buona Giornata sign raginema
nnsochedirti 1 year ago
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Raimondi is a baritone of an average talent. Coming from a very rich background,pushed his career to a top level, but he was never a primo baritono.
This aria lies in a bass-baritone range, even good baritones can sing it well. All I hear is unsupported white, sounds at the top, pity.
comescrittomaestro 2 years ago
Having sung with him in his production of Don Giiovanni and the Damnation de Faust I can say he is not a bass, more light bass-baritone. When he try's to sing the real bass roles his voice goes into dull mode and it flattens badly, listen to his Forza recording and Don Carlos to see what I mean but and it,s a big but It was at times a very beautiful sound when singing roles that suited him.
jamesjmertins 2 years ago
@jamesjmertins. You're getting red arrowed for this impudent remark, I'm not surprised. But it's true, Raimondi is no good at the bass repertoire, he's got no power under C3, even shameful for a baritone.
saintsaens21 2 years ago
Seine Zeit ist vorbei!
matticello1979 2 years ago
i know he is not a tenor ,i said that just to illustrate that he is not a bass but a baritone
arturovilla02 2 years ago
it's funny, you mentioned him being a tenor, may be, you are right. I just listened to one tenor, here on youtube, singing le veau d'or. believe me, much better then Raimondi(though the orchestration was quite wierd, some kind of a rock type)
comescrittomaestro 2 years ago
interesting and funny, who is that tenor? tibett s version is better too.
arturovilla02 2 years ago
Tibett had amazing voice of a great quality, his relatively short career was due to his 110% giving. The tenor's name is Franco Tenelli-weird version but vocals to my view better then one of Raimondi's
comescrittomaestro 2 years ago
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interesting, a tenor pretending to be a bass!!!!
arturovilla02 2 years ago
De donde sacas que es tenor?? Si lo fuera seria el tenor mas dramático del mundo!!
voltape 2 years ago
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VeritasTeLiberat 2 years ago
Do you mean a baritone pretending to be a full basso, or a bass-baritone pretending to be a full basso?
VeritasTeLiberat 2 years ago
per me Raimondi e stato il piú grande Mephisto ever. Nessuno ha fatto chiaro come lui il lato pericoloso del diavolo perche cosi inquietantemente afascinante , e che humour!!! ma in questa orrenda produzione solo un grande come lui puo uscirne indenne
giangaleazzo24 2 years ago
...ghiaurov, christoff, neri, pinza, de angelis...dove me li metti allora?
hai mai ascoltato altri faust oltre quello di questo canzonettista?
nnsochedirti 2 years ago
Bé, è sen'altro un'esecuzione infernale.... ma non per gli argomenti trattati!
leuthold 3 years ago
His tone sounds very strained! I'm not sure what he's doing it's not easy sounding, it's sounds raspy!!
operaman20 3 years ago
The performance is strangely staged, but Ruggero Raimondi is great as always! His performance is not geriatric and his tone is not flat. As for his French pronunciation, let's not nitpick, OK? When you all start singing as beautifully as he does, then you have the right to criticize his singing.
JohnInMableton 3 years ago 2
Ruggero is going to be a great...tenor soon ! I saw him 3 times in recital, younger, and it was fantastic so let's be nice with this great artist.
frenchyfrench 4 years ago
How come?? he was a bass - then he signs Toreador, and now you predict he will be a tenor soon?????
voltape 2 years ago
Nah, he was never a bass. Hear his La Calunnia, compare it to Ghiaurov's, and you'll see for sure that Raimondi is, well not really bass-baritone, but one idea lower than baritone lol. Anyways, I'm not a fan of his singing.
BBozhkilov 2 years ago
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ahhaha raimondi still singing??? o my god!
Pereidom 4 years ago
Yo admiro a este señor, de verdad. En mi opinión, vocalmente está más apto para los papeles de barítonos, como Escamillo o Scarpia; pero, por otro lado, tiene una capacidad interpretativa que le permite generar un Don Basilio adorable y un Mefistófeles muy histriónico, en el registro de bajo.
Wildlatinae 4 years ago
how come no applause? where was this performance?
OperaFanLover 4 years ago
Quizá no aplaudan porque el público es italiano, y no es muy dado al aplauso espontáneo, sino que se manifiestan sólo cuando finaliza el acto completo.
Wildlatinae 4 years ago
I think you are grossly mistaken. Sera por la interpretacion...
amlirco 3 years ago
Geriatric performance and doesn't sing french....
zarzuela84 4 years ago 4
His tone is pretty desiccated, and he's often flat. Also, the conductor is having trouble keeping pit and stage in sync.
majorcana 4 years ago
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Ruggero Raimondi is a charismatic artist but he doesn't sing french very well!
taillia 5 years ago
Stendiamo un velo pietoso sulla performance di Raimondi... perché si ostini a cantare ancora non so...
Meleagro 5 years ago 4
Per fortuna canta ancora ...non si trovano piú dei grandi come lui
giangaleazzo24 2 years ago
Mr. Raimondi is stil in the very good shape! Brava!
ada15 5 years ago