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I love Bill, but this is where I strongly disagree with him. The Gov't does not have to takeover Healthcare or offer a public option to get it to work. Its a free market problem. If interstate competition were allowed & there were no tax credits, costs would come down sharply & everyone would have quality & affordable healthcare! Its when u treat healthcare as a right is what will make it insolvent just like Soc Sec & Medicare. A little education on how free markets work would go a long way!
@The8thDOCTOR Piers Morgan is derived in the UK, the butt of jokes, nobody likes him, he's a twat. "Marxist Communist" country, really? You know very little of the UK bud. We are more corporate than the rest of Europe where commercialism is rife and the divide between rich and poor is wide...which is unfortunate.
@The8thDOCTOR I am not sure you understand irony then...i never knew the UK was seen as the opposite of Marxist and Communist. well anyway, piers morgan, you're welcome to him hehe
Verbal irony is a disparity of expression and intention: when a speaker says one thing but means another.
the marxist schtink about UK was Irony, but before you automatically hit the reply button take some free advice, read the previous posts, cool down and reflect and then REPLY, otherwise you run the risk of making yourself appear foolish and ignorant.
@The8thDOCTOR I still do not see how it was ironic to call the UK marxist. Saying I should cool down when I have not replied in any aggressive way and without the use of intonation in writing, what's your problem? Why did you just copy and paste your definition of irony from wikipedia. Look at my last comment to you. Saying the UK is marxist is not Ironic. If the USA took up a marxist policy I would say that is ironic, considering you guys hate marxism and have a society based on capitalism.
I don't agree with Bill's stance on Leno vs Conan situation. Of course it's showbiznes, but Conan has put more heart in it than Leno in the first place. Leno did not hesitate one bit to take over his show AGAIN after saying he'd leave it for Conan. What I'm saying is - Bill's stance on that conflict is purely materialistic, but he forgets why there is TeamCoco in the first place - it's because Conan was much more sincere and appealing than Jay. But if he wants to roll with Jay, be my guest.
@Shemassault See that's the whole point....as I've learned the hard way, corporate interest doesn't care about "heart," it cares about dollars and cents, and Maher was merely pointing out that it was a simple calculation on NBC's part. Granted, people with souls, like you, side with O'brien, but Maher was merely pointing out the nuts and bolts of what occurred. And why criticize Maher for appearing on a late night talk show? It's not like he chose Leno over O'brien.
@turoniner I agree that Maher's appearance on Leno and backlash he got for it was pretty pointless, but in that case, since showbiznes is just an industry.... we will never get anything worth watching. And it's not just my belief, it's a fact that Conan's takeover was really profitable, not even comparing it to Leno's own show he got. So the switchup was both economically and let alone ethically a pointless move.
Yeah, the system sucks. It so much better in Cuba, Burma, Zimbabwe - hey, the EU, where they just appointed President in Brussels. What a fukking Stalinist.
simmer down; that is priceless, especially if you are a coffee or tea drinker; you all know what the fuck i mean; i lost it too just like Larry at that point; 830
@eqsmooth,I thought Judaism was a "RELIGION" not a RACE.Remeber Bill Mahers Movie, he is claiming that he is an ETHIEST.You don't even know what the fuck you talking about.You know what I am sick and tired of, the 3.6 Billion US tax payers that Israel gets every year..For what? You know what I am sick and tired of, No JEWISH soilder in AFGHANISTAN..Rahm Emanuel fought for his motherland (ISRAEL) did he go to Afghanistan? Meryll Linch Vice President, he fought in jenning in 2002, did he in Iraq?
You're absolutely right pple.don't know nothing about showbiz works, but I KNEW from day one that Conan is not going to attract a lot of pple. Whatever the Jew guy is called who runs NBC I knew that he messed up BIG time..
The Jew Guy? Fuck you! Get the fuck outta here with your unbelievable hate and tragically poor English language skills. I have never seen the written word more tortured in my life. Educated much? Proof that stupid people tend to hate Jews and Blacks. Larry King is Jewish, Bill Maher is Jewish. Many talented people are Jewish. Jealous fuck.
Bill Maher's mother's maiden name was Berman. If your mother was Jewish you are Jewish. He says he is an atheist. So What. He is Jewish, raised Catholic because his father was Catholic. Eventually he rejected it all. Get your facts straight. He had both religions and their mores forming his worldview before he became a professional.
Being Jewish is not like being black, you can alter-Of course, unless your MJ(jk). If your logic was correct, the earliest religion man had was worhiping the moon. So, by that definition people throughout history should have been moon-worshipers.
Not true at all. Jewish heritages carry genes. Certain Jews Saphardic or Ashkenazy women are more likely to get beats cancer. Thee is Judaism and there are genetic Jews. This, "Oh I am a cultural Jew" is such bullshit. I know many Jews and many Bronx/NY Jews who became Buddhists in California. More bullshit. Sammy Davis Jr becoming Jewish: bullshit. Stick to facts; mother is jew you are jew. All one has to do is take a blood test.
Man, your saying if your mother was jew you are a jew. If I'm CHristian my children were chrisitian. The first humans were sun-worshippers. There children should have remained moon-worshippers, and their children's, children, children, children ......should have remained moon-worshippers. Thus, based on this logic all people should be worshiping physical objects, because our ancestors once did.
The cancer thing is fine, but you can be athiest if you want. You can be dragon, if you want.
You just don't get it. Fine! make your cultural choice, make your faith choice but your blood will always be Jewish. A man who could be our next President changed his name as a young person (his father did actually) because it was Jewish. His name is is now Wesley Clark, Sr. It will come out & it will hurt his campaign that he "was" Jewish but isn't Jewish anymore? My grandfather changed his name because it sounded like an Eastern Europe name during the beginnings of WW2. It was to avoid racism.
@eqsmooth CULTURALLY if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish. if your father is Jewish you will still have Jewish blood. his mother was non practicing to the point he didn't even know about it until much later.
The idea of Cultural Judaism wasn't even "official" until 1982 & is based on Habonim Dror, a Jewish Socialist, Zionist Youth movement. It is a politically correct way of saying we don't believe in the religion but we love the food, language, art, dance & music. i know many Jews and most don't talk about it, think about it or act on the religious or "cultural" side. To be truly Jewish Mom has to carry Sephardic or Ashkenazy blood. The Ashkenazy even have their own gene for breast cancer (BRCA1).
Look, don't be a dick. The man is an atheist. Judaism is a religion not a race. You can look like a jew and be a Muslim, Christian, or even believe in Zeus. Listen to some of his views on religion and see what I mean.
My parents are both Christian and I am an atheist. My girlfriend is a Mormon who was born Christian. Just because you parents were born a certain religion, doesn't mean you can't change. Bill Maher changed. UltimateSerge is correct in his statement too. Your logic is flawed.
Jews are an ethnic group, a nationality & a religion. Despite what wikipedia says they cannot be separated. BTW, Mormons are the craziest next to Scientologists. I've read the Book of Mormon. How can you possibly be an atheist & put up with a Mormon? She chose Mormonism? The last person I heard about who converted was Glenn Beck & no one is more bat shit crazy than him. Don't talk to me about diversity. I live in the most diverse neighborhood in the USA. Read C. Hitchen, be a real atheist..
Even here he says he DOESNT know... the whole 6.9 thing. He is agnostic... sometimes he uses Athiest but if you take all of this interviews, 90% of them he states HE DOES NOT KNOW.. including this one... he SHOULD use Agnostic. Even in religlious he states that being Athiest is JUST as certain as being religous
It doesn't matter, because agnosticism is completely different from belief.
I'm an agnostic atheist (and obviously so is Maher). Either you believe in a god(s), or your don't. There really is no middle ground. If you say "not sure", then you don't believe & are atheist.
The 2nd question is whether you say you "know" (gnostic) there is a god or isn't a god, or you don't know (agnostic).
There are gnostic theists & agnostic theists, just as there are gnostic atheists & agnostic atheists.
NOT TRUE! I dont believe or DONT believe in a God. I say I dont KNOW. There definately IS middle ground! NO, saying NOT SURE means I AM NOT SURE. It means cant say he 100% exists, but cant say 100% HE CANT either!!!!!!!
If you're "not sure" there is a god, then you cannot have belief in one -- unless you're insane of course. That makes you an atheist (non-theist).
There are tons of places to learn about the 2 separate aspects of knowledge & belief. Google it! Stop being ignorant with the archaic and erroneous labeling of simply "agnostic", and stop being an immature jerk with the all caps!
It's not just "my thinking". You didn't even check the link I provided, or the numerous other sources which explain the difference in aspects of belief & knowledge (a/theist & a/gnostic).
In reality, none of us know if there is a god or gods, just as none of us know if there is a celestial teapot.
Aside from your not being sure, you can still answer the question of whether you "believe". There is no middle in belief -- you either do, or you don't!
No! A person can say they don't believe in a god because evidence for one is insufficient to a degree for their conscious mind to believe it to be real. This does not -- in any way -- equate to asserting of some special knowledge that a god does not exist.
This is where Maher was egregiously wrong in prior statements, and obviously has since been set straight.
I don't/cannot believe in a god, but none of us know if it does/doesn't. We all either believe or we don't. There can be no in between!
I think this is an argument of language, but i think we may agree on this, but let me ask you...
If I say "I believe in God"... this means 100% I believe.
If I say "I don't believe in God"... this is what athiests say....
soooo... what does an agnostic say? we dont say EITHER! Because when you say you dont believe, you are saying exactly what an athiest says! (which i am not).
I'm *agnostic* in respect to god (I don't have knowledge if it does/doesn't exist), but I also don't *believe* in a god (I have insufficient evidence to believe it exists).
You say you're agnostic (so am I), but secondarily you/everyone have/has a position on belief.
Ask yourself, "Do I believe there is a god?". There is only one positive answer - "yes". Anything other than a "yes", equates to a no. Anything other than a "yes", means you are an atheist in respect to a theistic god.
The term agnostic does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic. The agnostic theist believes in the existence of god, but maintains that the nature of god is unknowable. The agnostic atheist maintains that any supernatural being or realm is inherently unknowable by the human mind. This agnostic concludes we cannot have knowledge of god's existence, and so does not (cannot) subscribe to theistic belief. He's therefore atheist.
I don't know if there is a God. I give it an equal 50/50 chance.
And if there is a God, i don't know what form it is and how God works.
I don't BELIEVE 100% there is a God and I don't DISBELIEVE 100% there is a God.
I am just uncertain. Based on what I told you, what am I? I feel I am in the middle of thiest and non-thiest... but i just described what I am... please tell me the proper label, so i can get it right!
You can't seem to separate belief from gnosis! I think it more likely you're just feigning confusion.
Nobody puts a % on belief. If you believe, you believe - period! If you have doubts, your [sub] conscience tells you that you can't believe it (regardless of what you might tell others).
I could place a % on what I think there is likelihood or not of life on other planets, yet I happen to believe there is life elsewhere. There is no % of belief involved even though I don't know either way.
if you give it 50/50 then you are highly unqualified to give an opinion on the matter, before you understand probability to a higher level to weigh in the sides you are considering probable. No offense meant.
I am highly unqualified? How so? I have a mind, and I am using it! I say there is a chance God exists, and a chance that he doesn't! Isnt that kinda 50/50? I just dont know! This is exactly how Bill Maher thinks.... EXACTLY.
Having a mind is not sufficent to being qualified for having an opinion on what you wish. For that reason we don't have mentally insane in charge of atomic centrals.
TO make it short: the evidence that supports the claims of "god's" noninvolment (as the word exist is idealized often) is overwhelming compared to the nonexistent evidence of god's involvement.
To conclude from this that the existence of "god" is 50/50 based on the above....well I will await your answer to reach my conclusions
What the F are you talking about?? What evidence are you talking about? Were you there when the world started? NO, so you cannot know anything more than me or any other human.
And yes my mind is all i need in order to say "I DONT KNOW!" What is your problem? I am saying I am 50/50 on it! And guess what, I AM ALLOWED TO!
you are contradicting yourself now. The evidence is all around you, perhaps you should use your mind better and know what other humans know, or not.
All I am hinting at, is that while you have a mind as you say, that mind knows too little to be able to make a difference and that's why you fail to apply probability to the evidence, hence you get your 50/50.
Of course you are allowed to, just don't expect anything more then that allowance, that's all.
appart from one very significant detail which you seem to overlook:
You and I are of the same species but we are not the same, as we are products of two completely different lines of human evolution over time. Hence your argument of being human is not nearly sufficient for drawing conclusions of what I know or don't.
As I said, it is the 50/50 I took issue with, not you know knowing. You not knowing doesn't mean 50/50 at all, for reasons I pointed out earlier.
I am speaking like a normal human being, but then again that is also relative.
I am writing in english I think, and so are you. The words I have used are rather simple common words, so if you are having difficulties understanding them, perhaps you should make some effort learning the words before you get into understanding evolution or such topics.
I don't like to label myself but since you asked I would say anti-theist
There is nothing wrong. Once again my issue is with the 50/50 comment. It's not 50/50 at all.
I'll try and explain it.
Say you are an investigator and there are two paths you are following A and B mutually exclusive.
Now during your investigation, you come upon bits and pieces of evidence for A, hardcore evidence, but while pursuing option B you hear rumors repeatedly that fit B well yet no evidence of the event happening as B.
OK BUT i dont have more or less evidence for "A" than I do "B". In my head I see an equal opportunity for both possibilities "God existing" and "God NOT existing".... thats why i say Im 50/50 on it. I dont give EITHER side more credibility than the other, so how can I give it anything more or less than 50/50? What is wrong in the way I am thinking? I don't get where you are getting at?
Now yes you do have to possible choices hence 50/50 but the weighted probability is not 50/50.
For event A you have an overwhelming number of hardcore evidence even though it doesn't complete the whole puzzle, but for B you have no evidence but because of the rumours you can't completely refute it in absolute.
Hence you weigh them and which one would be the most probable? Certainly it wouldn't be 50/50. If you can't understand this, then I hope you never go for jury duty.
I can see why there MIGHT be a God, looking at nature, feeling my own emotions, my connection with people... makes me FEEL there is a higher power.... BUT BUT BUT BUT then I think, well it's also possible these are just chemical reactions in my brain and its just all science with no higher-meaning.
I AM EQUALLY SPLIT ON THIS. So i am 50/50. Why are you telling me I have MORE evidence for one side or th other
That's why I am saying you're not qualified to express a worthy opinion on this matter. You just lack the basic blocks of understanding the subject.
What kind of conclusion is that, that based on nature, your feelings, your connection with people, there might be a god? You don't even know what god means.
That's the beauty of science, it is men's way of explaining the environment in which he lives, as it is, and not based on what might be.
Yes, hate and anger because If i dont understand your point I get insults like I am not capable of understanding. WHy dont u understand this is TEXT and i dont hear your voice. Its hard to get points across on here sometimes.
OK so you are Athiest.... so you know 100% there is no God or higher power? You are for certain? I just want to be clear. Thank you.
You REALLY are incapable of comprehending anything!
Besides EgnatiaV spelling out the arguments for you accurately and very succinctly, only for you to respond with a big fat "duh", nothing I've told you previously has been able to penetrate your thick skull. You must cease with that erroneous notion that anyone who is an atheist "knows 100% there is no God"!
Ah this convo is stupid anyway. I dont get the "agnostic atheist" and "agnostic theist" terms. They are contradictory. How can an Agnostic BELIEVE 100% there is a God but then say he doesn't know what form the God takes on.
Listen, i dont care if I dont understand you. I am simply saying that I do not know whats out there. DONE! I dont care the name of the label I am... how about that??? NOBODY has KNOWLEDGE, only BELIEF! so the theist argument goes out the window.
There is nothing certain in absolute. But it is highly unlikely that there such a being or whatever you want to call it ( i will not call it god, because it is the english speakers who don't know the meaning of the "word" god even though it spells out in the bible they read, yet they fail to understand it) that has created all this. If there is such a thing, that doesn't explain the beginning anyways, for that thing must have had a beginning, and that way you only complicate the matter more.
you are just some athiest trying so hard to prove a point... same as the religious nuts. Whats so hard in simply saying "I don't know" (just like Bill Maher) its sooo simple and sooo true! The only thing for sure is that WE DO NOT KNOW!
I can fully agree with you that okay the common ground is "I DON"T KNOW". I might know however some things that bill doesn't know that you don't read in your books, but i leave that out of this discussion.
But at the end of the day, this is not about what you call god. It is about a bunch of disillusioned madmen and madwomen who think they act in the name of "god" and force their ways onto others in the name of such threats of "god"
So what does Bill NOT know? You have some kind of proof there is NO God? What are you reading?
Like i said... EVERY person on this earth DOES NOT KNOW. They may jump to conclusions that they call beliefs, BUT really.. NOBODY KNOWS. How can you NOT agree with that?
Because I know the history of a people that you don't know, and I also speak the language my family has spoken for hundreds of years, that has been around for thousands and that can explain literally the name of the traditional gods that preceded the one god you refer to. A language that preceded latin and greek, and that literally explains the verses of the bible about the identity of god being nothing but just what the verse itself says. No metaphor! So next time, speak for your self.
you know the history of people that I dont? Oh yea? what is that??? Instead of being vague, why dont you tell me your language so I have a clue what you are talking about!
Even still, you dont know there is no God or higher power.
you may as well call it superkalifragilisticsexspiralidocious what you refer to as god. As I said you have no idea what the meaning of the "word" god is.
Let's just say you are not ready for that kind of discussion and that I don't have time to explain a lot of history to people who think the existence and nonexistence of an intelligent creator is 50/50
Why am i even BOTHERING with someone like you. You might suffer from a mental disorder... you can't even see someone else's side to the story.
I think you have no 2nd language since you cant even name it! And no matter HOW far back your language goes, or if you go with the science that we are ALL from Africa... how do you know that there was no higher power behind all that? Were you there Charlie? hahahaha
you have no story, what are you yapping about? Having troubles understanding your own stance of "I don't know"?
And then I am the one with mental disorder? Do you think before you write or do you ignore that step?
well, now you are going from god to a higher power. You have to define the higher power. I cannot rule out the possibility of more advanced species then humans, but they too are part of the same process: evolution and that doesn't explain what you want. so make up your mind
"I dont know if there is a higher power and/or God" I can't say 100% something DOES exist and can't say 100% that something DOES NOT exist. I am only a human in the year 2010, and I know just as much or little as everyone else. The fact is... NOBODY can know any MORE or LESS than I do since we are all human".
you really are something. You rest your case? LOL... is that all you got??? Can you please explain why my view is wrong? Or do you want to take the pussy way out and just say that "you rest your case".... you never explained WHY my way of saying "I DONT KNOW" is wrong (along with Bill Maher).
How can you say that you know what others know? Are you really that narrow minded?
I didn't say the "i don't know" is wrong, I said the 50/50 is. 50/50 and "I don't know" are not the same thing. And I never said Bill Maher is wrong. You seem to assume a lot of things but try to understand what other's write instead ,for a change.
There are more things that others know that you don't know, then there are things you know and that is a FACT which works against your 50/50.
OK already, stop OBSESSING on the 50/50 thing. I just meant either there is a higher power or God or there isn't and I dont lean to any side more than the other.... ANYONE with common sense can see what I meant by using the 50/50/
I only ment to correct a flow in your thinking. I don't care if you think 50/50 or not, and it seems I wasted my time on the matter.
Some of us are rather practical and don't go around proving if there is or is not a cow orbiting the earth, or a human in mars, or a high power whatever that is, or if there is a hogwart and a wizard with a scar who saves the world.
We don't give fiction a 50/50 in the real world.
Maybe what is common to me, is different from yours, think about that for a sec.
Oh and also sorry, but NO ONE can know more than anyone else as far as a higher power goes. Sorry. If you DO, then prove it! Instead of just saying how stupid I am... make a case and point CLEARLY!
I cannot prove to you the higher power, I can attept to prove that the garbage that refers to it, is just that man made garbage verses meant to spread terror and rule over the uneducated masses that are meant to be ignorant.
I can explain the reasons for creating such a fiction, and the reasons for spreading it. And if that is not enough for you to rule out the 50/50 nonsense, then you're welcome to go through life with that soft of mind in your head.
OMG you are going WAY to deep into it. You are seriously insane.
Yes the man made garbage is just garbage. I dont believe in the bible or any BS like that. But i will not rule out God or a higher power. SORRY. If you CAN, you are obviously the kind of personality who needs VERY black and white rigid lines set because you are uncomfortable saying "I DONT KNOW"... perhaps you need to get your EGO in check.
Oh my God.. i just read your profile on here. You devote your entire life to this BS. I dont go around thinking about all this all day. I listen to music, have friends, family, etc... seems like you are a real outsider and only obsess about this topic. Im done, you wont even see me here anymore, no time to waste on your negative energy.
I will leave you simply with: You cannot say FOR SURE there is or isn't a God! YOU ARE ONLY HUMAN born in the 1900's. You werent there. BYE!
this coming from one who dosn't understand the words he uses eh!
Let me guess, you just use phrases like "oh my god" for shitz and giggles eh.
I don't devote my life to it don't worry, talking about the existence or nonexistence of imaginary friends is not worth it. I was trying to correct your line of thought, but it was all in vain.
Bye is probably the wisest word in this exchange.
you really are Mister. Literal... sorry but in American culture people say "Oh My God" as a slang term for "what the Fu(k".
Dude there is NOTHING wrong with my thinking. I simply say to myself, and ACCEPT that I cannot possibly know there is a God, yet i dont say there CANT be.. then i go live my life.. you know, hang out with friends, listen to music, call my sister, go to a movie. hahaha... BYE
it is funny that in no way you can clearly explain yourself... all you do is say you speak an old language and know things the common man doesn't, but that is all you say without giving detail.
I think you have some other agenda on your plate and instead of being honest about it, all you do it complain if someone has a different opinion... and guess what bud, I AM STILL 50/50 on whether there is a higher power or not! Sorry you don't like it... you'll never change my mind :)
I won't enter that topic because then I would have to explain a lot of things in order for you to make any sense of it, and judging that you seem to have trouble understanding basic points the task of understanding the rest especially if explained in writing over youtube seems suddenly beyond reason. No offense. It's a topic that cover too many things to be discussed in this way. But you keep your 50/50. Bye
I think you wont enter that topic because YOU GOT NOTHING! NOTHING you can say can PROVE there is NO GOD.
Not that I need Bill Maher, but we BOTH have the same opinion on the matter.
Maybe you dont understand what I mean by 50/50! I just mean in my head, I can't say there is a God AND I cant rule out there isnt! (for the 100th time).
Are you dense? Im really getting the feeling you might suffer from borderline personality disorder or some sort of mental illness.
this makes no sense because our knowledge of things is not based based proving negatives but upon the weighing available evidence. Even if there were some omniscient mind who could hear our thoughts and respond to our prayers why would anyone imagine s/he could learn anything about it in any of the countless thousands of religions that men halve created to explain what they don't understand? Why assume a god is necessary when it only begs the next question: whence came god?
WOW i just googled your name... you seem to have a track history of not getting along with people. I kinda thought that is what I would find if I googled you, hence I was right? You are nothing but a sociopath.
I think you are just a poor soul looking for answers, so you push one side in order to get the other side to justify it (as most sociopaths do). I understand you now. I feel bad for you. Go to therapy.
leno does not have a hold of the american public. if he did his show @ 10 wouldn't have been cancelled. Conan cared about the tonight show & he showed that by not moving the timeslot. leno didn't have a problem with moving it. i can't believe maher has the balls to complain about conan making jokes about leno. They're jokes bill- grow up. You never have a problem making jokes about conservatives. it's not all leno's fault but he is definitely NOT innocent.
he told the truth about Leno/Conan. all you guys so caught up in that b.s. need to re-listen to what he said. GROW UP! we have serious problems in this world and you're worried about a stupid late night comedy show.
Right, I'm so happy bill brought these idiots back to reality. show business like any other job you have to do what you got to do to stay on top. these CoCo fans are just collage students who thank they no the world. but they will find alot of Jay Leno's. hell they'll be jay Leno's one day too. is it right no. but hey that's how things work that's how the world turns.
The lady asking the question about health care around the 9 minute mark- she threatens to switch from dem to independent if they don't pass a bill.
My question to her and people like her- what does that mean when it's voting time? Are you going to vote for Ralph Nader? Are you going to stay home and give up? What is the solution?
corporations are NOT people, they dont die and return some of the wealth theyve aquired over their "lifetime" as estate taxes.....this is why the system is failing,,,,,,rich people dont want to pay back to the system that made them rich...it's not "your money" as GW Bush said, it belongs to the US public....
i don't know if you know this but conans getting somewhere around 45 million for leaving the tonight show. if thats what you get for getting fired, i wouldn't be complaining. sure he was kicked off, fired and that sucks but it's not like conans on the street. he's getting top dollar for being let go, prematurely. leno is also known for his strive to be the host of the tonigh show, he worked his butt off to get that job. and i'm not a huge fan of leno but if conans ratings sucked, its hollywood.
@JoeDaPlumber Yea, but you're Joe the plumber, ha. Nah, no offense but it just seems like Maher and Conan fans would be your younger and hipper crowd, and Leno fans would be your typical Wal-Mart shopping, Idol watching American. Then again, I haven't watched either in years and I'm not sure who still does now that netflix and youtube exist.
For the first time i must say Bill's logic is wrong, Leno had given Conan some guarantees..but whatever
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8:30 lol i taught larry was having a stroke
Ahmariano 1 year ago
I love Bill, but this is where I strongly disagree with him. The Gov't does not have to takeover Healthcare or offer a public option to get it to work. Its a free market problem. If interstate competition were allowed & there were no tax credits, costs would come down sharply & everyone would have quality & affordable healthcare! Its when u treat healthcare as a right is what will make it insolvent just like Soc Sec & Medicare. A little education on how free markets work would go a long way!
moybutter 1 year ago
from the "Marxist" "Communist" country called Great Britain comes the replacement of Larry King, his name is Piers Morgan.
The8thDOCTOR 1 year ago
@The8thDOCTOR Piers Morgan is derived in the UK, the butt of jokes, nobody likes him, he's a twat. "Marxist Communist" country, really? You know very little of the UK bud. We are more corporate than the rest of Europe where commercialism is rife and the divide between rich and poor is wide...which is unfortunate.
guild1981 1 year ago
@guild1981
I was trying to be Ironic, sorry.
The8thDOCTOR 1 year ago
@The8thDOCTOR I am not sure you understand irony then...i never knew the UK was seen as the opposite of Marxist and Communist. well anyway, piers morgan, you're welcome to him hehe
guild1981 1 year ago
@guild1981
Verbal irony is a disparity of expression and intention: when a speaker says one thing but means another.
the marxist schtink about UK was Irony, but before you automatically hit the reply button take some free advice, read the previous posts, cool down and reflect and then REPLY, otherwise you run the risk of making yourself appear foolish and ignorant.
The8thDOCTOR 1 year ago
@The8thDOCTOR I still do not see how it was ironic to call the UK marxist. Saying I should cool down when I have not replied in any aggressive way and without the use of intonation in writing, what's your problem? Why did you just copy and paste your definition of irony from wikipedia. Look at my last comment to you. Saying the UK is marxist is not Ironic. If the USA took up a marxist policy I would say that is ironic, considering you guys hate marxism and have a society based on capitalism.
guild1981 1 year ago
@guild1981
What is truly Ironic is a Brit without a sense of humour.
The8thDOCTOR 1 year ago
@The8thDOCTOR haha, now that was funny and ironic and you didn't even use wikipedia. hehe, that really was a good line..
guild1981 1 year ago
@guild1981
Like u never ever used Wiki -_-'
The8thDOCTOR 1 year ago
Winter olympics are far better. Sorry bill, watching someone run in a circle or throwing a spear is not that interesting.
cujomade101 1 year ago
the luge, its not a sport its a dare. lmao
kangdang2 1 year ago
I love Bill, but I gotta give props to Larry. I adore the way he interviews.
INatalkaI 1 year ago
@INatalkaI. u hit the nail on the head,
mrmoha1100 1 year ago
Bill Maher for president.
kaolor052979 1 year ago 45
I don't agree with Bill's stance on Leno vs Conan situation. Of course it's showbiznes, but Conan has put more heart in it than Leno in the first place. Leno did not hesitate one bit to take over his show AGAIN after saying he'd leave it for Conan. What I'm saying is - Bill's stance on that conflict is purely materialistic, but he forgets why there is TeamCoco in the first place - it's because Conan was much more sincere and appealing than Jay. But if he wants to roll with Jay, be my guest.
Shemassault 1 year ago
@Shemassault See that's the whole point....as I've learned the hard way, corporate interest doesn't care about "heart," it cares about dollars and cents, and Maher was merely pointing out that it was a simple calculation on NBC's part. Granted, people with souls, like you, side with O'brien, but Maher was merely pointing out the nuts and bolts of what occurred. And why criticize Maher for appearing on a late night talk show? It's not like he chose Leno over O'brien.
turoniner 1 year ago
@turoniner I agree that Maher's appearance on Leno and backlash he got for it was pretty pointless, but in that case, since showbiznes is just an industry.... we will never get anything worth watching. And it's not just my belief, it's a fact that Conan's takeover was really profitable, not even comparing it to Leno's own show he got. So the switchup was both economically and let alone ethically a pointless move.
Shemassault 1 year ago
poverty is the majority of America
savykevin 1 year ago 3
Team Coco!!!
bigdaddyquey 1 year ago
Bill is The Man. He speaks common sense and sees through peoples' agendas.
dovespin1 1 year ago 60
Yeah, the system sucks. It so much better in Cuba, Burma, Zimbabwe - hey, the EU, where they just appointed President in Brussels. What a fukking Stalinist.
JBondski 1 year ago
@JBondski
Yeah man he is a Stalinist because he is criticizing the system.
Shelbzism 1 year ago
simmer down; that is priceless, especially if you are a coffee or tea drinker; you all know what the fuck i mean; i lost it too just like Larry at that point; 830
savykevin 1 year ago
Larry is thinking even old guys get horny!!!! @ 8:23
themooddisorders 1 year ago
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managarm1349 1 year ago
nat6660 is correct
jrd5307 2 years ago
The Olympics is so useless. If they held off 1 Olympic games, Winter or Summer they could abolish world hunger. its money wasted beyond reasoning.
nat6660 2 years ago
i loved this interview, but his leno defense was bullshit
joshaf26 2 years ago
Bill Maher is amazing!!! What he said about Jay Leno vs. Conan was BRILLIANT!!!! so logical, simple, and smart!
lexyucla 2 years ago
He denied that Leno did a horrible job at 10pn which helped kill the network.
bulls1 2 years ago
We are two nations - John Dos Passos
perpetualpeace81 2 years ago
haha I love Larry's laugh at Maher's jokes. Larry's a cool dude, I wanna see him on Maher's show.
IcyScythe 2 years ago 7
@eqsmooth,I thought Judaism was a "RELIGION" not a RACE.Remeber Bill Mahers Movie, he is claiming that he is an ETHIEST.You don't even know what the fuck you talking about.You know what I am sick and tired of, the 3.6 Billion US tax payers that Israel gets every year..For what? You know what I am sick and tired of, No JEWISH soilder in AFGHANISTAN..Rahm Emanuel fought for his motherland (ISRAEL) did he go to Afghanistan? Meryll Linch Vice President, he fought in jenning in 2002, did he in Iraq?
amareto35 2 years ago
You're absolutely right pple.don't know nothing about showbiz works, but I KNEW from day one that Conan is not going to attract a lot of pple. Whatever the Jew guy is called who runs NBC I knew that he messed up BIG time..
amareto35 2 years ago
@amareto35
The Jew Guy? Fuck you! Get the fuck outta here with your unbelievable hate and tragically poor English language skills. I have never seen the written word more tortured in my life. Educated much? Proof that stupid people tend to hate Jews and Blacks. Larry King is Jewish, Bill Maher is Jewish. Many talented people are Jewish. Jealous fuck.
eqsmooth 2 years ago 3
While I agree to your defense of Judaism, Bill Maher is not Jewish. He is an atheist and a very outspoken one at that.
Oblisk47 2 years ago
Bill Maher's mother's maiden name was Berman. If your mother was Jewish you are Jewish. He says he is an atheist. So What. He is Jewish, raised Catholic because his father was Catholic. Eventually he rejected it all. Get your facts straight. He had both religions and their mores forming his worldview before he became a professional.
eqsmooth 2 years ago
Being Jewish is not like being black, you can alter-Of course, unless your MJ(jk). If your logic was correct, the earliest religion man had was worhiping the moon. So, by that definition people throughout history should have been moon-worshipers.
UltimateSerge 2 years ago
Not true at all. Jewish heritages carry genes. Certain Jews Saphardic or Ashkenazy women are more likely to get beats cancer. Thee is Judaism and there are genetic Jews. This, "Oh I am a cultural Jew" is such bullshit. I know many Jews and many Bronx/NY Jews who became Buddhists in California. More bullshit. Sammy Davis Jr becoming Jewish: bullshit. Stick to facts; mother is jew you are jew. All one has to do is take a blood test.
eqsmooth 2 years ago
Man, your saying if your mother was jew you are a jew. If I'm CHristian my children were chrisitian. The first humans were sun-worshippers. There children should have remained moon-worshippers, and their children's, children, children, children ......should have remained moon-worshippers. Thus, based on this logic all people should be worshiping physical objects, because our ancestors once did.
The cancer thing is fine, but you can be athiest if you want. You can be dragon, if you want.
UltimateSerge 2 years ago
You just don't get it. Fine! make your cultural choice, make your faith choice but your blood will always be Jewish. A man who could be our next President changed his name as a young person (his father did actually) because it was Jewish. His name is is now Wesley Clark, Sr. It will come out & it will hurt his campaign that he "was" Jewish but isn't Jewish anymore? My grandfather changed his name because it sounded like an Eastern Europe name during the beginnings of WW2. It was to avoid racism.
eqsmooth 2 years ago
@eqsmooth CULTURALLY if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish. if your father is Jewish you will still have Jewish blood. his mother was non practicing to the point he didn't even know about it until much later.
fallon75 1 year ago
The idea of Cultural Judaism wasn't even "official" until 1982 & is based on Habonim Dror, a Jewish Socialist, Zionist Youth movement. It is a politically correct way of saying we don't believe in the religion but we love the food, language, art, dance & music. i know many Jews and most don't talk about it, think about it or act on the religious or "cultural" side. To be truly Jewish Mom has to carry Sephardic or Ashkenazy blood. The Ashkenazy even have their own gene for breast cancer (BRCA1).
eqsmooth 1 year ago
Look, don't be a dick. The man is an atheist. Judaism is a religion not a race. You can look like a jew and be a Muslim, Christian, or even believe in Zeus. Listen to some of his views on religion and see what I mean.
My parents are both Christian and I am an atheist. My girlfriend is a Mormon who was born Christian. Just because you parents were born a certain religion, doesn't mean you can't change. Bill Maher changed. UltimateSerge is correct in his statement too. Your logic is flawed.
Oblisk47 2 years ago
Jews are an ethnic group, a nationality & a religion. Despite what wikipedia says they cannot be separated. BTW, Mormons are the craziest next to Scientologists. I've read the Book of Mormon. How can you possibly be an atheist & put up with a Mormon? She chose Mormonism? The last person I heard about who converted was Glenn Beck & no one is more bat shit crazy than him. Don't talk to me about diversity. I live in the most diverse neighborhood in the USA. Read C. Hitchen, be a real atheist..
eqsmooth 2 years ago
@Oblisk47 He was raised catholic and his mother was jewish. But yes. He is an atheist and an extreme one at that.
tmgreen122 2 years ago
he is not an athiest. he is AGNOSTIC.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
No, Maher now considers himself an atheist. He's said so publicly several times.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
show me ONE source please? In Religilous he says he is agnostic!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
He called himself an atheist on the Imus show October 27, 2009:
/watch?v=r5OAC5MtKn0
...and also last fall on an episode of his "Real Time" on HBO during the monologue.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
Even here he says he DOESNT know... the whole 6.9 thing. He is agnostic... sometimes he uses Athiest but if you take all of this interviews, 90% of them he states HE DOES NOT KNOW.. including this one... he SHOULD use Agnostic. Even in religlious he states that being Athiest is JUST as certain as being religous
adamlewis723 1 year ago
It doesn't matter, because agnosticism is completely different from belief.
I'm an agnostic atheist (and obviously so is Maher). Either you believe in a god(s), or your don't. There really is no middle ground. If you say "not sure", then you don't believe & are atheist.
The 2nd question is whether you say you "know" (gnostic) there is a god or isn't a god, or you don't know (agnostic).
There are gnostic theists & agnostic theists, just as there are gnostic atheists & agnostic atheists.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
NOT TRUE! I dont believe or DONT believe in a God. I say I dont KNOW. There definately IS middle ground! NO, saying NOT SURE means I AM NOT SURE. It means cant say he 100% exists, but cant say 100% HE CANT either!!!!!!!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
No, numbnuts, and stop yelling.
If you're "not sure" there is a god, then you cannot have belief in one -- unless you're insane of course. That makes you an atheist (non-theist).
There are tons of places to learn about the 2 separate aspects of knowledge & belief. Google it! Stop being ignorant with the archaic and erroneous labeling of simply "agnostic", and stop being an immature jerk with the all caps!
Here's just one link you can start with:
"Agnostic atheist"
tinyurl [dot] com/qu9nr
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
I question if you have borderline personality disorder, because your thinking is very black and white.
If I say I am not sure, it means I am not sure!
I cant say I know there is a God, and I can't say I know there is NO God!
I am in the middle, and I am comfortable with that!
Nobody can know whether he exists or not.
Are you saying the word Agnostic shouldn't exist? There is no such thing?
adamlewis723 1 year ago
It's not just "my thinking". You didn't even check the link I provided, or the numerous other sources which explain the difference in aspects of belief & knowledge (a/theist & a/gnostic).
In reality, none of us know if there is a god or gods, just as none of us know if there is a celestial teapot.
Aside from your not being sure, you can still answer the question of whether you "believe". There is no middle in belief -- you either do, or you don't!
It's obvious you're comprehensively crippled.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
Not at all Joe. If i say I dont believe, then i am saying there is DEF no God which I cannot! So I am in the middle!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
No! A person can say they don't believe in a god because evidence for one is insufficient to a degree for their conscious mind to believe it to be real. This does not -- in any way -- equate to asserting of some special knowledge that a god does not exist.
This is where Maher was egregiously wrong in prior statements, and obviously has since been set straight.
I don't/cannot believe in a god, but none of us know if it does/doesn't. We all either believe or we don't. There can be no in between!
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
I think this is an argument of language, but i think we may agree on this, but let me ask you...
If I say "I believe in God"... this means 100% I believe.
If I say "I don't believe in God"... this is what athiests say....
soooo... what does an agnostic say? we dont say EITHER! Because when you say you dont believe, you are saying exactly what an athiest says! (which i am not).
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I'm *agnostic* in respect to god (I don't have knowledge if it does/doesn't exist), but I also don't *believe* in a god (I have insufficient evidence to believe it exists).
You say you're agnostic (so am I), but secondarily you/everyone have/has a position on belief.
Ask yourself, "Do I believe there is a god?". There is only one positive answer - "yes". Anything other than a "yes", equates to a no. Anything other than a "yes", means you are an atheist in respect to a theistic god.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
OK so let me ask you... what is the difference between your belief of God and and Athiests?
I feel you are saying an Athiest and Agnostic are the same thing.....
adamlewis723 1 year ago
The term agnostic does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic. The agnostic theist believes in the existence of god, but maintains that the nature of god is unknowable. The agnostic atheist maintains that any supernatural being or realm is inherently unknowable by the human mind. This agnostic concludes we cannot have knowledge of god's existence, and so does not (cannot) subscribe to theistic belief. He's therefore atheist.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
OK, lets put it this way.
I don't know if there is a God. I give it an equal 50/50 chance.
And if there is a God, i don't know what form it is and how God works.
I don't BELIEVE 100% there is a God and I don't DISBELIEVE 100% there is a God.
I am just uncertain. Based on what I told you, what am I? I feel I am in the middle of thiest and non-thiest... but i just described what I am... please tell me the proper label, so i can get it right!
Thank you
adamlewis723 1 year ago
You can't seem to separate belief from gnosis! I think it more likely you're just feigning confusion.
Nobody puts a % on belief. If you believe, you believe - period! If you have doubts, your [sub] conscience tells you that you can't believe it (regardless of what you might tell others).
I could place a % on what I think there is likelihood or not of life on other planets, yet I happen to believe there is life elsewhere. There is no % of belief involved even though I don't know either way.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
However, because you admit that you "don't believe 100%", that alone speaks to the fact that your conscious mind flatly does not believe it.
Congratulations, that makes you an agnostic atheist.
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
if you give it 50/50 then you are highly unqualified to give an opinion on the matter, before you understand probability to a higher level to weigh in the sides you are considering probable. No offense meant.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
I am highly unqualified? How so? I have a mind, and I am using it! I say there is a chance God exists, and a chance that he doesn't! Isnt that kinda 50/50? I just dont know! This is exactly how Bill Maher thinks.... EXACTLY.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
Having a mind is not sufficent to being qualified for having an opinion on what you wish. For that reason we don't have mentally insane in charge of atomic centrals.
TO make it short: the evidence that supports the claims of "god's" noninvolment (as the word exist is idealized often) is overwhelming compared to the nonexistent evidence of god's involvement.
To conclude from this that the existence of "god" is 50/50 based on the above....well I will await your answer to reach my conclusions
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
What the F are you talking about?? What evidence are you talking about? Were you there when the world started? NO, so you cannot know anything more than me or any other human.
And yes my mind is all i need in order to say "I DONT KNOW!" What is your problem? I am saying I am 50/50 on it! And guess what, I AM ALLOWED TO!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
no need to be deffensive mate,
you are contradicting yourself now. The evidence is all around you, perhaps you should use your mind better and know what other humans know, or not.
All I am hinting at, is that while you have a mind as you say, that mind knows too little to be able to make a difference and that's why you fail to apply probability to the evidence, hence you get your 50/50.
Of course you are allowed to, just don't expect anything more then that allowance, that's all.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
How am i contradicting myself? ALL i am saying is "I dont know what exists out there!" That is IT. That ONE sentence.
And FACT is... since you are human like ME, you can't know either!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
appart from one very significant detail which you seem to overlook:
You and I are of the same species but we are not the same, as we are products of two completely different lines of human evolution over time. Hence your argument of being human is not nearly sufficient for drawing conclusions of what I know or don't.
As I said, it is the 50/50 I took issue with, not you know knowing. You not knowing doesn't mean 50/50 at all, for reasons I pointed out earlier.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
How about instead of trying to sound intelligent, speak like a normal human being so i can understand what you are even saying.
anyway.. what is your position? Agnostic? Athiest? Religious?? other?
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I am speaking like a normal human being, but then again that is also relative.
I am writing in english I think, and so are you. The words I have used are rather simple common words, so if you are having difficulties understanding them, perhaps you should make some effort learning the words before you get into understanding evolution or such topics.
I don't like to label myself but since you asked I would say anti-theist
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Please dont give me labels since obviously i dont understand them anymore. Please describe your views.
And also what is wrong with me saying "Im not sure if there is a God or not". Why is that not good enough>
adamlewis723 1 year ago
There is nothing wrong. Once again my issue is with the 50/50 comment. It's not 50/50 at all.
I'll try and explain it.
Say you are an investigator and there are two paths you are following A and B mutually exclusive.
Now during your investigation, you come upon bits and pieces of evidence for A, hardcore evidence, but while pursuing option B you hear rumors repeatedly that fit B well yet no evidence of the event happening as B.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
OK BUT i dont have more or less evidence for "A" than I do "B". In my head I see an equal opportunity for both possibilities "God existing" and "God NOT existing".... thats why i say Im 50/50 on it. I dont give EITHER side more credibility than the other, so how can I give it anything more or less than 50/50? What is wrong in the way I am thinking? I don't get where you are getting at?
adamlewis723 1 year ago
Now yes you do have to possible choices hence 50/50 but the weighted probability is not 50/50.
For event A you have an overwhelming number of hardcore evidence even though it doesn't complete the whole puzzle, but for B you have no evidence but because of the rumours you can't completely refute it in absolute.
Hence you weigh them and which one would be the most probable? Certainly it wouldn't be 50/50. If you can't understand this, then I hope you never go for jury duty.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Who says that I have more evidence for "A"?
Dude.... its very simple.
I can see why there MIGHT be a God, looking at nature, feeling my own emotions, my connection with people... makes me FEEL there is a higher power.... BUT BUT BUT BUT then I think, well it's also possible these are just chemical reactions in my brain and its just all science with no higher-meaning.
I AM EQUALLY SPLIT ON THIS. So i am 50/50. Why are you telling me I have MORE evidence for one side or th other
adamlewis723 1 year ago
That's why I am saying you're not qualified to express a worthy opinion on this matter. You just lack the basic blocks of understanding the subject.
What kind of conclusion is that, that based on nature, your feelings, your connection with people, there might be a god? You don't even know what god means.
That's the beauty of science, it is men's way of explaining the environment in which he lives, as it is, and not based on what might be.
Well the evidence is there, like it or not.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Im not qualified? Sounds like you are filled with a lot of hate and anger. Instead of telling me I lack the basic blocks, maybe try explaining it!
You still have not stated your stance. You say you are ANTI-THIEST... well isnt that ATHIEST. I think you are thinking TOO deeply.
For the 100th time i am saying... I DONT KNOW WHATS OUT THERE. Its THAT SIMPLE! .....
And sorry how u dont understand how seeing nature COULD be seen as a sign from God.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
Hate and anger? Where did that come from? That's the problem, you misinterpret words and facts. I did explain, gave a fairly good example I thought.
very well, atheist is precisely the short form of anti-theist.
Well this sort of argument is very deep, deeper then you think, definitely not for shallow people.
If you don't know then why bother making a comment at all? seems like a waste of space and ideas, not worth reading. That's all .
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Yes, hate and anger because If i dont understand your point I get insults like I am not capable of understanding. WHy dont u understand this is TEXT and i dont hear your voice. Its hard to get points across on here sometimes.
OK so you are Athiest.... so you know 100% there is no God or higher power? You are for certain? I just want to be clear. Thank you.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
"OK so you are Athiest.... so you know 100% there is no God or higher power?"
@adamlewis723
WTF?
You REALLY are incapable of comprehending anything!
Besides EgnatiaV spelling out the arguments for you accurately and very succinctly, only for you to respond with a big fat "duh", nothing I've told you previously has been able to penetrate your thick skull. You must cease with that erroneous notion that anyone who is an atheist "knows 100% there is no God"!
Also, learn to spell atheist!
Bye!
JoeyDiphard 1 year ago
Ah this convo is stupid anyway. I dont get the "agnostic atheist" and "agnostic theist" terms. They are contradictory. How can an Agnostic BELIEVE 100% there is a God but then say he doesn't know what form the God takes on.
Listen, i dont care if I dont understand you. I am simply saying that I do not know whats out there. DONE! I dont care the name of the label I am... how about that??? NOBODY has KNOWLEDGE, only BELIEF! so the theist argument goes out the window.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
There is nothing certain in absolute. But it is highly unlikely that there such a being or whatever you want to call it ( i will not call it god, because it is the english speakers who don't know the meaning of the "word" god even though it spells out in the bible they read, yet they fail to understand it) that has created all this. If there is such a thing, that doesn't explain the beginning anyways, for that thing must have had a beginning, and that way you only complicate the matter more.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
you are just some athiest trying so hard to prove a point... same as the religious nuts. Whats so hard in simply saying "I don't know" (just like Bill Maher) its sooo simple and sooo true! The only thing for sure is that WE DO NOT KNOW!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
how old are you? 5?
you completely miss the point.
I can fully agree with you that okay the common ground is "I DON"T KNOW". I might know however some things that bill doesn't know that you don't read in your books, but i leave that out of this discussion.
But at the end of the day, this is not about what you call god. It is about a bunch of disillusioned madmen and madwomen who think they act in the name of "god" and force their ways onto others in the name of such threats of "god"
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
you are simply amazing! First off, Im 30.
So what does Bill NOT know? You have some kind of proof there is NO God? What are you reading?
Like i said... EVERY person on this earth DOES NOT KNOW. They may jump to conclusions that they call beliefs, BUT really.. NOBODY KNOWS. How can you NOT agree with that?
adamlewis723 1 year ago
Because I know the history of a people that you don't know, and I also speak the language my family has spoken for hundreds of years, that has been around for thousands and that can explain literally the name of the traditional gods that preceded the one god you refer to. A language that preceded latin and greek, and that literally explains the verses of the bible about the identity of god being nothing but just what the verse itself says. No metaphor! So next time, speak for your self.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
you know the history of people that I dont? Oh yea? what is that??? Instead of being vague, why dont you tell me your language so I have a clue what you are talking about!
Even still, you dont know there is no God or higher power.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
you may as well call it superkalifragilisticsexspiralidocious what you refer to as god. As I said you have no idea what the meaning of the "word" god is.
Let's just say you are not ready for that kind of discussion and that I don't have time to explain a lot of history to people who think the existence and nonexistence of an intelligent creator is 50/50
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Why am i even BOTHERING with someone like you. You might suffer from a mental disorder... you can't even see someone else's side to the story.
I think you have no 2nd language since you cant even name it! And no matter HOW far back your language goes, or if you go with the science that we are ALL from Africa... how do you know that there was no higher power behind all that? Were you there Charlie? hahahaha
adamlewis723 1 year ago
you have no story, what are you yapping about? Having troubles understanding your own stance of "I don't know"?
And then I am the one with mental disorder? Do you think before you write or do you ignore that step?
well, now you are going from god to a higher power. You have to define the higher power. I cannot rule out the possibility of more advanced species then humans, but they too are part of the same process: evolution and that doesn't explain what you want. so make up your mind
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
OK... Final Statement....
"I dont know if there is a higher power and/or God" I can't say 100% something DOES exist and can't say 100% that something DOES NOT exist. I am only a human in the year 2010, and I know just as much or little as everyone else. The fact is... NOBODY can know any MORE or LESS than I do since we are all human".
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I rest my case.
Luckily the rest of us do not see the world with your lens.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
you really are something. You rest your case? LOL... is that all you got??? Can you please explain why my view is wrong? Or do you want to take the pussy way out and just say that "you rest your case".... you never explained WHY my way of saying "I DONT KNOW" is wrong (along with Bill Maher).
adamlewis723 1 year ago
How can you say that you know what others know? Are you really that narrow minded?
I didn't say the "i don't know" is wrong, I said the 50/50 is. 50/50 and "I don't know" are not the same thing. And I never said Bill Maher is wrong. You seem to assume a lot of things but try to understand what other's write instead ,for a change.
There are more things that others know that you don't know, then there are things you know and that is a FACT which works against your 50/50.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
OK already, stop OBSESSING on the 50/50 thing. I just meant either there is a higher power or God or there isn't and I dont lean to any side more than the other.... ANYONE with common sense can see what I meant by using the 50/50/
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I only ment to correct a flow in your thinking. I don't care if you think 50/50 or not, and it seems I wasted my time on the matter.
Some of us are rather practical and don't go around proving if there is or is not a cow orbiting the earth, or a human in mars, or a high power whatever that is, or if there is a hogwart and a wizard with a scar who saves the world.
We don't give fiction a 50/50 in the real world.
Maybe what is common to me, is different from yours, think about that for a sec.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
Oh and also sorry, but NO ONE can know more than anyone else as far as a higher power goes. Sorry. If you DO, then prove it! Instead of just saying how stupid I am... make a case and point CLEARLY!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I cannot prove to you the higher power, I can attept to prove that the garbage that refers to it, is just that man made garbage verses meant to spread terror and rule over the uneducated masses that are meant to be ignorant.
I can explain the reasons for creating such a fiction, and the reasons for spreading it. And if that is not enough for you to rule out the 50/50 nonsense, then you're welcome to go through life with that soft of mind in your head.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
OMG you are going WAY to deep into it. You are seriously insane.
Yes the man made garbage is just garbage. I dont believe in the bible or any BS like that. But i will not rule out God or a higher power. SORRY. If you CAN, you are obviously the kind of personality who needs VERY black and white rigid lines set because you are uncomfortable saying "I DONT KNOW"... perhaps you need to get your EGO in check.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
Oh my God.. i just read your profile on here. You devote your entire life to this BS. I dont go around thinking about all this all day. I listen to music, have friends, family, etc... seems like you are a real outsider and only obsess about this topic. Im done, you wont even see me here anymore, no time to waste on your negative energy.
I will leave you simply with: You cannot say FOR SURE there is or isn't a God! YOU ARE ONLY HUMAN born in the 1900's. You werent there. BYE!
adamlewis723 1 year ago
this coming from one who dosn't understand the words he uses eh!
Let me guess, you just use phrases like "oh my god" for shitz and giggles eh.
I don't devote my life to it don't worry, talking about the existence or nonexistence of imaginary friends is not worth it. I was trying to correct your line of thought, but it was all in vain.
Bye is probably the wisest word in this exchange.
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
you really are Mister. Literal... sorry but in American culture people say "Oh My God" as a slang term for "what the Fu(k".
Dude there is NOTHING wrong with my thinking. I simply say to myself, and ACCEPT that I cannot possibly know there is a God, yet i dont say there CANT be.. then i go live my life.. you know, hang out with friends, listen to music, call my sister, go to a movie. hahaha... BYE
adamlewis723 1 year ago
First of all, America is a multicultural country.
Second of all, go live your life, and stop telling me you do.
BYE
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
it is funny that in no way you can clearly explain yourself... all you do is say you speak an old language and know things the common man doesn't, but that is all you say without giving detail.
I think you have some other agenda on your plate and instead of being honest about it, all you do it complain if someone has a different opinion... and guess what bud, I AM STILL 50/50 on whether there is a higher power or not! Sorry you don't like it... you'll never change my mind :)
adamlewis723 1 year ago
I thought we bid our byes to each other?
I won't enter that topic because then I would have to explain a lot of things in order for you to make any sense of it, and judging that you seem to have trouble understanding basic points the task of understanding the rest especially if explained in writing over youtube seems suddenly beyond reason. No offense. It's a topic that cover too many things to be discussed in this way. But you keep your 50/50. Bye
EgnatiaV 1 year ago
I think you wont enter that topic because YOU GOT NOTHING! NOTHING you can say can PROVE there is NO GOD.
Not that I need Bill Maher, but we BOTH have the same opinion on the matter.
Maybe you dont understand what I mean by 50/50! I just mean in my head, I can't say there is a God AND I cant rule out there isnt! (for the 100th time).
Are you dense? Im really getting the feeling you might suffer from borderline personality disorder or some sort of mental illness.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
@adamlewis723
this makes no sense because our knowledge of things is not based based proving negatives but upon the weighing available evidence. Even if there were some omniscient mind who could hear our thoughts and respond to our prayers why would anyone imagine s/he could learn anything about it in any of the countless thousands of religions that men halve created to explain what they don't understand? Why assume a god is necessary when it only begs the next question: whence came god?
winston2015 1 year ago
WOW i just googled your name... you seem to have a track history of not getting along with people. I kinda thought that is what I would find if I googled you, hence I was right? You are nothing but a sociopath.
I think you are just a poor soul looking for answers, so you push one side in order to get the other side to justify it (as most sociopaths do). I understand you now. I feel bad for you. Go to therapy.
adamlewis723 1 year ago 2
@EgnatiaV LOL no its not
and adam is right, your wrong. BYE
SoulbringerWoWFFXI 1 year ago
And might I add, that if you are SOOO defensive of your stance, i think you aren't as confident as you should be in it!
The only TRUE way to be confident is to say "I DONT KNOW".... because you don't. Wake up bro.
adamlewis723 1 year ago
leno does not have a hold of the american public. if he did his show @ 10 wouldn't have been cancelled. Conan cared about the tonight show & he showed that by not moving the timeslot. leno didn't have a problem with moving it. i can't believe maher has the balls to complain about conan making jokes about leno. They're jokes bill- grow up. You never have a problem making jokes about conservatives. it's not all leno's fault but he is definitely NOT innocent.
kjg3309 2 years ago
thx for posting this :)
juvenal01 2 years ago 10
* Olympic Hockey!....
mrjamesb56 2 years ago
Larry have some balls to disagree at times
Yayoballer 2 years ago
I love how he defended leno i was just waiting for him to say "mah nigga" hahaha
cudos he knows that people are ignorant so they talk w/out knowing any facts
miranger 2 years ago
he told the truth about Leno/Conan. all you guys so caught up in that b.s. need to re-listen to what he said. GROW UP! we have serious problems in this world and you're worried about a stupid late night comedy show.
chadmalik 2 years ago 6
@chadmalik chill dog, that's y we're on youtube n the 1st place, 2 take a break from our freakin problems
S24995 2 years ago
Right, I'm so happy bill brought these idiots back to reality. show business like any other job you have to do what you got to do to stay on top. these CoCo fans are just collage students who thank they no the world. but they will find alot of Jay Leno's. hell they'll be jay Leno's one day too. is it right no. but hey that's how things work that's how the world turns.
Samkaveli88 2 years ago
The lady asking the question about health care around the 9 minute mark- she threatens to switch from dem to independent if they don't pass a bill.
My question to her and people like her- what does that mean when it's voting time? Are you going to vote for Ralph Nader? Are you going to stay home and give up? What is the solution?
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Disappointing to here him side with Leno... I knew he would tho since they are so buddy buddy
Nemesis000000 2 years ago
LOL "Rush Limbaugh said 'I want him to fail". Now, we all say crazy things when we're high but....."
IAMtheNewWorldOrder 2 years ago 11
corporations are NOT people, they dont die and return some of the wealth theyve aquired over their "lifetime" as estate taxes.....this is why the system is failing,,,,,,rich people dont want to pay back to the system that made them rich...it's not "your money" as GW Bush said, it belongs to the US public....
DNRvideos 2 years ago 10
Jay Leno is a walmart sellin hack~
DNRvideos 2 years ago 3
boy larry king is a tool~
DNRvideos 2 years ago
Before the passage of the Seventeenth Amendment, senators were elected by the individual state legislatures.
599CD 2 years ago
0:50
SOOOOO WRONG
lots and lots of checks on a pure majority vote, he gets it completely wrong on that one
aweiss 2 years ago
he is selfish. leno already had the job for so many years, and now he gets to have it back after only 7 months
Katherinea1492 2 years ago 2
i don't know if you know this but conans getting somewhere around 45 million for leaving the tonight show. if thats what you get for getting fired, i wouldn't be complaining. sure he was kicked off, fired and that sucks but it's not like conans on the street. he's getting top dollar for being let go, prematurely. leno is also known for his strive to be the host of the tonigh show, he worked his butt off to get that job. and i'm not a huge fan of leno but if conans ratings sucked, its hollywood.
PoliticsAddict 2 years ago
I'm not sure why but it seems like Maher fans would prefer Conan over Leno, so it's surprising to here Maher take up for Leno.
S24995 2 years ago 4
I prefer Leno and I'm a huge Maher fan
JoeDaPlumber 2 years ago
@JoeDaPlumber Yea, but you're Joe the plumber, ha. Nah, no offense but it just seems like Maher and Conan fans would be your younger and hipper crowd, and Leno fans would be your typical Wal-Mart shopping, Idol watching American. Then again, I haven't watched either in years and I'm not sure who still does now that netflix and youtube exist.
S24995 2 years ago
@S24995 I never have seen Conan's show. I should give it a try. I have never watched American Idol
JoeDaPlumber 2 years ago