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  • i saw heaven coming down

  • Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)

  • @kiwichristian2009 We are indeed saved by grace through faith and not by works; the Anglican churches have never taught otherwise. Regarding sacraments, our Articles of Religion say: “Sacraments ordained of Christ be not only badges or tokens of Christian men's profession, but rather they be certain sure witnesses, and effectual signs of grace, and God's good will towards us, by the which he doth work invisibly in us, and doth not only quicken, but also strengthen and confirm our Faith in him.”

  • @Cantuariensis Strangely enough, God only gave us two ordnances as Christians. Baptism FOLLOWING salvation and The Lords Supper.

  • @kiwichristian2009 Unless you are penetecostal when you also have baptism of the holy spirit as a de-facto sacrament in place of the anglican confirmation. Also for marriage to be indesoluable it really needs to be a sacrament so most protestants treat marriage as one too.

  • @kiwichristian2009 Umm, these people aren;t catholics, thjey are protestants (episcopalians). Protestand but not reformed, like the lutherans.

  • i have not attend a corpus christi for about six years now. and i am a Anligan/ Episcopal in the bay area. it also very nice to see the bishop and other people i personally know from meeting in the procession. thank you

  • Very nice and interesting to see..this is is not anglo catholic as there are female priests in the processional in liturgical vestments?

    Pax Christie, there are different ways of explaining the real presence of the Eucharists; transubstantiation is one, consubstantiation. The sacrifice of the mass is no problem from anglican or lutheran point of view, just that it is not a dogma expressed in that way. And the blessed sacrament is also blessed outside the mass, and for veneration..

  • on January 6, 1994 ... the Anglican/Roman Catholic International Commission ... as the official representatives of our two Churches ... We affirm that Christ in the Eucharist makes himself present sacramentally

    and truly when under the species of bread and wine these earthly realities

    are changed into the reality of his body and blood. ... ARC/USA records its conclusion that

    the Eucharistic sacrifice is not an issue that divides our two Churches.

  • i thought protestants don't believe in the True Presence/ Transubstantiation?

  • Are the guys in brown 1:13 Anglican Fransiscans?

    Also howcome their are so many Anglican churchs in San Fransisco?

  • Yes, they are members of the Anglican Society of St Francis.

    I'm afraid I don't know enough about the history of San Francisco to comment on the number of churches that we have here.

    Blessings and peace,

    Fr Rod

  • I heard a group of those Anglican Society of St.Francis people returned to Rome.

    What is your position on the inpending mass exodus of most of the both Modern and Traditonal Anglican clergy and lay people back to Rome?

  • I hadn't heard about that.

    In this diocese it seems to me that most people (laity and clergy) are quite content where they are. Though there is some traffic to-and-fro between the Episcopal and RC churches, I don't think that the movement in either direction is huge.

  • Well some Anglican and Epis. people and clergy have reverted/converted already. It is expected that more than 400,000 to even 500,000 traditonalist Anglicans and Epis. and some 300 Anglican and Epis. Bishops and countless Priests and deacons are going to revert/convert within the next 2 years.

    Along with this many other modern Anglian and Epis. people and clergy will revert/convert with them. This has been a constant concern of the Archbishop of Canterburry.

  • This is the first time I have seen prostrations in Anglican service. Neat.

  • That's my parish!

  • Excellent! It's a joy to see so many people showing a true outward and physical sign, of an inward and spiritual grace!

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