Actually, it ends on the tonic chord, but it seems like the dominant because of the traditional plagal cadence used at the end of works like this. The music had modulated to G major, and then moved back to D major on the final chords, but instead of modulating back to the home key, Beethoven treats the G major chord as the tonic, instead of the subdominant that it is. That's why you get the sudden, incomplete feel in the music, even though it ends on the tonic.
Do people just cruise YT disliking every video they can watch? For the fun of hurting someone's feelings? Because I can't think of another reason why this one was disliked.
I love Leonard Bernstein as a conductor. I also find it ironic that he was both Jewish and gay, and he is conducting one of the most sublime masses ever written!
Yes, you know I don't understand how Beethoven wrote the 'Gloria' without being completely overwhelmed by the intensity and almost unbearable energy of the music. It makes me feel quite mad just listening to it.
I got to perform this piece only once in 1984 with a 200 member choir and a 100 member orchestra at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, NY. 26 years later and countless other choral performances since, and it still is the greatest piece I've ever had the honor of doing. I stood in the front row (one of the advantages of being a 5'8" male is that I typically get the front row), so I had all the choral voices behind me. I'll never forget the experience.
It seems a little spurious to compare The Messiah with Op.123. Quite apart from the fact that Beethoven was reportedly a great admirer of Handel, they are pieces of a completely different type.
beethoven wrote one of the greatest fuga ever in 5.32 he was deaf m , in his mind and his heart and his strenght, his power of god to make this kind of masterpieces,
crossed from beginning to end with a jubilee shouting the gloria lets to be aware of the transposition between the orchestra and the ethereal soloists voices joining in a perfect communion of sacred symphonic connection,long live ludwig van, Bernstein as always the director with that unique personality shows a exceptional rendition in conducting this wonderful masterpiece
I don't have much of an appreciation for the other parts but this piece is ecstatic and melodically inspiring. As if pulled from the book of life itself. Oh, God I can almost ride on every single note to infinity. It's far richer than anything from Handels Messiah.
Chopin wrote music that was in many instances superior to those you list except for Beethoven and he was not German. Also, it is laughable that you ignorantly list the Hungerian Liszt as German. Saint Saens, Dvorak, Ravel, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky to add only a few weren't German. Maybe you should take a listen. And by the way what happened to Mozart who might as well be considered German. And in case you didn't know or forgot Mendelssohn was Jewish.
Ah, quelles passion et profondeur derrière chacune des notes de ce vaisseau sonore ecrit douloureusement par le plus grand des génies ! C'est une invitation à l'amour, à la fraternité et à la joie de vivre! Merci à Youtube.
Hahahahaha let the work speak for itself. Let the music be, if it moves you then be so moved, if the spirit moves you then move. But don't expect us to dance just because you do.
Besides that I have heard this twice on cd only, this is the first time I've watched it. Thanks you tube. Its like listening to a Verdi or a Berlioz (the requiem masses of course). Hay.
bwahahaha,,, and let me speak for the work. Let Desideriius be. If you are provoked by my reaction then be provoked, hahaha.. If my mind moves you to react, then react. It's up for you to dance,, or maybe you feel like you wanna dance as you're reading my comments,,,.. Your Verdi,Berlioz and requiem masses are irrelevant here. Fuck off!
if Moses at Sinai have seen the glory of YHWH,, then I hear the glory of YHWH in this music. How immense it is. How grand. How great is our God! How complex. How unfathomable is His love!
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yes, I am a sceptic...but you are a sexist...your great divine all powerful god is a He? this "he" can not be found in any space out in the universe...it is all idealism.
Sexist? I have nothing to do with such ethical "sexist, non-sexist" norms;I merely write. It's the urban who gave the terms and descriptions. Rurals like me care not.
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That's your opinion. The majority wont accept such silly, stupid opinion because THE MAJORITY BELIEVES IN GOD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL. You, a dry, barren, lifeless sceptic lives a purposeless life. Unless you accepted Jesus as your Saviour, you cannot have peace. You will always have restlessness and discontented happiness. You need to read your Bible again and know who God is, -His personality, His sense of Justice, His love, His miracles. It's not yet too late.
yes, let me live my dry, barren, lifeless sceptic live...similar to a desert? Oh, but I have lived in environments like a desert and in winter they are majestic! So there is something to be found in even that which is barren, and lifeless? It is how you see it? Oh, I love jesus, my second name is jesus, but I like the jesus, who likes to hang around with twelve apostles in the dry lifeless desert... in robes with no underwears. Yes, the jesus who shared his food, the socialist minded jesu
This video is grand. It tells me how impressive is it to agree with the conductor's will. When Satan sees the people on earth obeying the Creator's will as if he is seeing a grand concert, he(Satan) will be displeased, he will be overwhelmed.
i cannot fail the conviction that In this conductor, Bernstein, I see YHWH (Jesus) conducting His universe under His mild, gentle authority which is the source of happiness and peace to all His creatures. Disobedience to Him brings unhappines. Why not obey Jesus when His rule is mild? Why obey Satan when he brings only bondage slavery and ruin? Jesus is our lovely Saviour! Amen, praise be to YHWH the Saviour!
I agree that this work is inspired by God but please, Bernstein is hardly a Christ figure here. I mean, for starters he had several homosexual relations and was unfaithful to his wife. Isn't that against your religion?
It's not the gay Bernstein I am refering to,but the conductor Bernstein.I got a picture of how God directs His universe with such impressive harmony but the creatures now would not obey His laws.Don't misinterpret me.Understand my point or else you miss it.
That if one disbelieves the Bible. Well, skeptics and atheists have nothing to do with Beethoven who, besides being genius, is a man who regards God with reverence. I got your point. That gods have the problem in dealing with creatures. But such a comment of yours is theoretical. Unless you inspire people to obey or disobey God, then that would be better.
yes,,,yes, that bernstein loved young latino boys...just like jerome robbins! Art makes you love both sexes, it makes you appreciate the art in all creation; evolutionary or divine!
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prove it? I rather listen to salsa music and dance with a hot sexy latina, and later procreate/fornicate(I invite you, you going to love it). Then I feel, like a true god, that is genius. I will make you the godfather of my salsa dancing babies!
I do not need to prove anything to vile, low-born people such as you. Go listen to your salsa music and leave your snide remarks elsewhere. Let those who love true beauty listen in peace without your idiotic, debasing remarks.
you're an idiot you pretentious bastard. and i bet you still live with your parents. btw im from the hood. does that make me low-born? go listen to your salsa music? racist. isn't calling someone low-born debasing too?
The Piece may be one of the greatest of masterpieces ever penned by anyone and this performance is glorious. I hope the entire Beethoven Series will be issued on DVD. Thank You Thank you.
It ends on the dominant chord, not the tonic, that's so cool.
Lassannn 6 months ago
@Lassannn
Actually, it ends on the tonic chord, but it seems like the dominant because of the traditional plagal cadence used at the end of works like this. The music had modulated to G major, and then moved back to D major on the final chords, but instead of modulating back to the home key, Beethoven treats the G major chord as the tonic, instead of the subdominant that it is. That's why you get the sudden, incomplete feel in the music, even though it ends on the tonic.
SirSebastianWang 5 months ago
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Lassannn 10 months ago
Bernstein isn't the flamboyant clown here, Madame Moser is.
SlyFox616 1 year ago
The greatest choral work ever!
bcollignon 1 year ago
I love Leonard Bernstein as a conductor. I also find it ironic that he was both Jewish and gay, and he is conducting one of the most sublime masses ever written!
xatuuatx 1 year ago
Yes, you know I don't understand how Beethoven wrote the 'Gloria' without being completely overwhelmed by the intensity and almost unbearable energy of the music. It makes me feel quite mad just listening to it.
Paracelsus72 1 year ago
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Bernstein is too much of a flamboyant clown
VerbalBlitzkrieg 1 year ago
I got to perform this piece only once in 1984 with a 200 member choir and a 100 member orchestra at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, NY. 26 years later and countless other choral performances since, and it still is the greatest piece I've ever had the honor of doing. I stood in the front row (one of the advantages of being a 5'8" male is that I typically get the front row), so I had all the choral voices behind me. I'll never forget the experience.
streglia 1 year ago
It's celestial. I'm atheist... this music is much more perfect than the god it's talking about.
ironjack1770 2 years ago
@ironjack1770 I'd tell you to go to Hell, if I thought you wouldn't.
Lassann 2 years ago
Beethoven's choral works (other than the 9th symphony) are WAY underrated.
werq34ac 2 years ago
Genial! Einfach genial! Auch, oder sogar insbesondere der Chor, der hier leider namenlos bleibt.
EasyAmerica 2 years ago
Amen!
Adamalgorithm 2 years ago
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Hardwyck 2 years ago
It seems a little spurious to compare The Messiah with Op.123. Quite apart from the fact that Beethoven was reportedly a great admirer of Handel, they are pieces of a completely different type.
centerbark 2 years ago
beethoven wrote one of the greatest fuga ever in 5.32 he was deaf m , in his mind and his heart and his strenght, his power of god to make this kind of masterpieces,
thegoddescomposer 2 years ago 5
crossed from beginning to end with a jubilee shouting the gloria lets to be aware of the transposition between the orchestra and the ethereal soloists voices joining in a perfect communion of sacred symphonic connection,long live ludwig van, Bernstein as always the director with that unique personality shows a exceptional rendition in conducting this wonderful masterpiece
beethomozart 3 years ago 2
07:57 best best best best
taviona 3 years ago
Yes, but don't you just love 04:48 up to 05:32
Bushy162 3 years ago 2
I don't have much of an appreciation for the other parts but this piece is ecstatic and melodically inspiring. As if pulled from the book of life itself. Oh, God I can almost ride on every single note to infinity. It's far richer than anything from Handels Messiah.
fringefries 3 years ago 5
The vocal quartet here is unsurpassed in my mind!! I'm particularly impressed by Edda Moser, who is ravishing here
Gigglingatagas 3 years ago
He was passionate about this! IIRC, he converted to the RC.
WeHoFur 3 years ago
Bernstein really seems to be enjoying very much to conduct this!!!
Rohrbacher132 4 years ago
he jumps around too much in my view.
iambananananananana 4 years ago
A great rendition of Beethoven's missa solemnis!
furiozara 4 years ago
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slmonge 1 year ago
all the best music has been composed by germans: bach, beethoven, wagner, liszt, brahms, händel, mendelssohn, schubert, schumann.........
choletalenda 4 years ago
@choletalenda
Chopin wrote music that was in many instances superior to those you list except for Beethoven and he was not German. Also, it is laughable that you ignorantly list the Hungerian Liszt as German. Saint Saens, Dvorak, Ravel, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky to add only a few weren't German. Maybe you should take a listen. And by the way what happened to Mozart who might as well be considered German. And in case you didn't know or forgot Mendelssohn was Jewish.
slmonge 1 year ago
I'm an agnostic but this is beautiful and one of my favourite pieces of music. You don't have to be religious to enjoy it.
jebediahweckbutvain 4 years ago
Schubert dijo una vez: "Beethoven será comprendido recién dentro de 200 años..."
Eso fué en el 1820 aprox.
Recién estamos apreciando el poder de esta música, si somos conscientes de sentirla con todo el ser...
vicenteelperro 4 years ago
Ah, quelles passion et profondeur derrière chacune des notes de ce vaisseau sonore ecrit douloureusement par le plus grand des génies ! C'est une invitation à l'amour, à la fraternité et à la joie de vivre! Merci à Youtube.
kamelium 4 years ago
Hahahahaha let the work speak for itself. Let the music be, if it moves you then be so moved, if the spirit moves you then move. But don't expect us to dance just because you do.
Besides that I have heard this twice on cd only, this is the first time I've watched it. Thanks you tube. Its like listening to a Verdi or a Berlioz (the requiem masses of course). Hay.
myyellowshirt 4 years ago
bwahahaha,,, and let me speak for the work. Let Desideriius be. If you are provoked by my reaction then be provoked, hahaha.. If my mind moves you to react, then react. It's up for you to dance,, or maybe you feel like you wanna dance as you're reading my comments,,,.. Your Verdi,Berlioz and requiem masses are irrelevant here. Fuck off!
desideriius 4 years ago
if Moses at Sinai have seen the glory of YHWH,, then I hear the glory of YHWH in this music. How immense it is. How grand. How great is our God! How complex. How unfathomable is His love!
desideriius 5 years ago
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yes, I am a sceptic...but you are a sexist...your great divine all powerful god is a He? this "he" can not be found in any space out in the universe...it is all idealism.
butifarra61 4 years ago
Sexist? I have nothing to do with such ethical "sexist, non-sexist" norms;I merely write. It's the urban who gave the terms and descriptions. Rurals like me care not.
desideriius 4 years ago
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That's your opinion. The majority wont accept such silly, stupid opinion because THE MAJORITY BELIEVES IN GOD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL. You, a dry, barren, lifeless sceptic lives a purposeless life. Unless you accepted Jesus as your Saviour, you cannot have peace. You will always have restlessness and discontented happiness. You need to read your Bible again and know who God is, -His personality, His sense of Justice, His love, His miracles. It's not yet too late.
desideriius 4 years ago
yes, let me live my dry, barren, lifeless sceptic live...similar to a desert? Oh, but I have lived in environments like a desert and in winter they are majestic! So there is something to be found in even that which is barren, and lifeless? It is how you see it? Oh, I love jesus, my second name is jesus, but I like the jesus, who likes to hang around with twelve apostles in the dry lifeless desert... in robes with no underwears. Yes, the jesus who shared his food, the socialist minded jesu
butifarra61 4 years ago
This video is grand. It tells me how impressive is it to agree with the conductor's will. When Satan sees the people on earth obeying the Creator's will as if he is seeing a grand concert, he(Satan) will be displeased, he will be overwhelmed.
desideriius 5 years ago
i cannot fail the conviction that In this conductor, Bernstein, I see YHWH (Jesus) conducting His universe under His mild, gentle authority which is the source of happiness and peace to all His creatures. Disobedience to Him brings unhappines. Why not obey Jesus when His rule is mild? Why obey Satan when he brings only bondage slavery and ruin? Jesus is our lovely Saviour! Amen, praise be to YHWH the Saviour!
desideriius 5 years ago
I agree that this work is inspired by God but please, Bernstein is hardly a Christ figure here. I mean, for starters he had several homosexual relations and was unfaithful to his wife. Isn't that against your religion?
abschied222 5 years ago
It's not the gay Bernstein I am refering to,but the conductor Bernstein.I got a picture of how God directs His universe with such impressive harmony but the creatures now would not obey His laws.Don't misinterpret me.Understand my point or else you miss it.
desideriius 5 years ago
harmony in his creation? The term creatures? and the worst "obey"? That is the problem with many of the gods.
butifarra61 4 years ago
That if one disbelieves the Bible. Well, skeptics and atheists have nothing to do with Beethoven who, besides being genius, is a man who regards God with reverence. I got your point. That gods have the problem in dealing with creatures. But such a comment of yours is theoretical. Unless you inspire people to obey or disobey God, then that would be better.
desideriius 4 years ago
yes,,,yes, that bernstein loved young latino boys...just like jerome robbins! Art makes you love both sexes, it makes you appreciate the art in all creation; evolutionary or divine!
butifarra61 4 years ago
but that love does not need to be a sexual one.
iambananananananana 4 years ago
you have a point there.
butifarra61 4 years ago
YHWH is the impetus by which Beethoven can carry out his genius
desideriius 5 years ago
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prove it? I rather listen to salsa music and dance with a hot sexy latina, and later procreate/fornicate(I invite you, you going to love it). Then I feel, like a true god, that is genius. I will make you the godfather of my salsa dancing babies!
butifarra61 4 years ago
I do not need to prove anything to vile, low-born people such as you. Go listen to your salsa music and leave your snide remarks elsewhere. Let those who love true beauty listen in peace without your idiotic, debasing remarks.
riskyrieske 4 years ago 3
you're an idiot you pretentious bastard. and i bet you still live with your parents. btw im from the hood. does that make me low-born? go listen to your salsa music? racist. isn't calling someone low-born debasing too?
BlueChip216 3 years ago
For me the greatest masterpiece of all art ever. There are no words - only gratitude towards the divine sparkle in Beethoven.
greve 5 years ago
The Piece may be one of the greatest of masterpieces ever penned by anyone and this performance is glorious. I hope the entire Beethoven Series will be issued on DVD. Thank You Thank you.
paulzappa 5 years ago
Bernstein was under-rated in Beethoven.
etucker82 5 years ago