Patriots broke a rule by using their own cameraman. A cameraman that recorded the styles of opposing teams. How is that not cheating? Even if it isn't cheating, did it really matter?
It only served to break their resolve even further when it came down to 18-1.
That team in 07 was still the best football team that I have ever seen. I give the Giants credit for pulling out a win but that win was 1 out of maybe 10 if those two teams had played 9 other times.
im a patriots fan, but if that call had gone to the raiders the raiders could have just taken a knee and the game wouldve been over, but the call that was made was the correct call
i cant believe that "spygate" is going to diminish the remarkable season that the pats have had in some people's eyes; this is a singular achievement that should be considered remarkable by any standard. brady and moss have been the ultimate pros and they should be considered among the greats as well as the whole team. congrats, job well done. now on to arizona!
ok, ok, I think the Pats did a great job this year, and they will probably win the superbowl. I am a Raiders fan, and there are 2 things you Pats fans have to thank the Raiders for, without argument.
1. Trading Moss to the Pats
2. Getting that horrible call in the playoffs against the Raiders that started this dynasty. Everyone knows the Raiders should of won, and, they would have probably beat the Rams in the Superbowl that year.
Come on now, you know that was a bad call, and after that game, I believe they went to the superbowl the next year after that! Of course the defense would give up after that kind of call
hey hey hey, i am a fucking big ass patriots fan im season ticket holder and um,mmmmmmmmm, they r now 16-0 im just saying they r the best team in nfl history baby
I told yall dumb asses that Randy is the best ever!! Much respect to Rice but Randy Moss is the greates receiver of all time. Everybody rode him off when he went to Oakland but now what, yall are feelin real stupid right about now. Congratulations Moss. 23 td catches!!
u guys are sooo stupid. THe only thing the patriots did to cheat was tape the JETS audibles. NOT any other team. so they may know the jet audibles, but that doesnt mean the patriots dont deserve the rest of there 12 wins
According to the papers up here the Jets had a guy thrown out of Foxboro last year in the playoffs for tapong the Pats. I don't condone cheating but you are being naive if you think the Pats were/are the only ones doing it. The tape would have had no value to us until the next time we played the Jets. If you want cheating in the NFL look no further than the Colts. That snake Polian will do anything to help his team win and that includes whining to the NFL to change their rules to suit him.
even though the patriots passing game is probably the greatest in nfl history, marooney and faulk get very few yards, i think we need a better runnning backs
And they cheated for a reason, so don't tell me that it had nothing to do with the game being played. They had an advantage over other teams, and that means that the success under Bellicheck has been undeserved and meaningless.
The reason why we win is not just because we have nasty players, its because good players are attracted here-because we have a good chance at the superbowl every year. And they are willing to take less money to win. The patriots are team based, thats why we win. Go Pats.
All I know is they're not cheating now and they're destroying every opponent. Rand Moss was double covered and Brady still threw the ball and Moss caught that shit with his shoulder!! His shoulder!! The Pats look like a video game the way they killing people.
Bengals rule!!!!!!!!Oh wait a minute never mind.Patriots cheat yea thats the only reason they win.Thats the ticket.The only way they could stop a great team like the colts or the steelers would be to cheat or they are just really lucky.................
the pats...player for player...have a better team than any other...u cant all jus start 2 wine that we cheated cuz we whooped ur asses... get over yourselves...
its nothing to me and personally i dont call it cheating. but the league does. it is illegal to use any type of film to record another teams plays or w/e. trust me i dont think it mattered if they cheated cuz they still would have won but according to the league, they cheated
wow dude this was 7 months ago...anyways u cant say they are not the best because they lost one game, they were 18-1 and has one of the best seasons ever and tom brady had one of the best if not the best qb year, they were defenitly the best team
who cares if it was the biggest!? they were 18-1!! u cant blame the patriots for the nfl rules! its not there fault the superbowl is decided in one game! if the superbowl was decided in best out of three they would have won. they are the best period, they were just unlucky to have their worst game at the superbowl but they are definitly the best
@YKElEntonador But it's not best 2 out of 3. It's one 60 minute game. You bring your A game or you go home losers. The Giants wanted it more, and they were the best on that night, and that's all that matters. 18-1 bitch. 1 when it mattered the most.
Randy Moss is the man and Brady has the best receiver of all time to throw the ball to. As far as the Pats cheating, yeah they did but so does half the league. But when Brady hits Moss for 7 td's already this season, where is the cheating in that? Pats and Cowboys in the super bowl!!
Oh yeah----and FUCK Bill Belifuck---he has to cheat anyway--he sent over a cameraman to spy on the Jets defensive calls----man---pathetic!! Seriously--it is on MSN---I had to laugh---Little baby Brady needs the defense read to him---fucking wah wah--what a pussy!!
they were caught having a camera on the sideline thats the ONLY rule they broke no one talks about how shawne merriman cheated when he took steroids they only praise him the only reason this was so big is because everyone fucking hates the patriots GO PATS
Pats never cheated. They broke a rule by using their own cameraman. That's the only rule they broke. Even Commissioner Goodell said that it had nothing to do with the game being played.
The media and Commissioner Goodell have to downplay the cheating because of how much money is involved. What are they going to do? Disqualify the Patriots for the season in order to serve justice and be fair? ACTUALLY, THEY SHOULD HAVE. But the reason for everything in the NFL is money, and that would simply be too big of a cost.
ummmm shawn merriman tested positive for enhancing substance and he still considered one of the best linebackers behind others at his position which is left or right linebacker i dont remeber so yea harrison is not the 1st
Rodney Harrison took steroids too buddy. And the Patriots cheated on a coaching level. That is far worse than any individual player cheating because everyone on the coaching staff has to know about it and must work together to exploit the advantages they gain from cheating.
Man I totally agree---FIRST OF ALL___FUCK THE PATRIOTS!! I hate their fucking asses!!!! So sick of Brady and his pussy ass---Cant wait til we kick their asses--GO DALLAS!!!!! Just like we did with the COLTS!!! Who likes the Patriots outside of New England? FUCKING NOBODY!!!!
who cares whether ppl outside of new england like the pats i dont know anyone that likes the cowboys every one knows that everyone hates the patriots because they know that right now the patriots are the best team in football, look what they did to the supposedly second best team (chargers) they blew them away, if thats the best the nfl's got the pats could go undefeated
indyrock are you another one of those "bad calls" baby....get over it already. you fuckin babys you won last year did you not. now show me two more rings then we'll talk you fuckin cum dumpster.
hehehe yes we got moss? Where did the "WE" come from? So what is your job with New England? Let me see if your name is on the roster what's your name agian?
The tuck rule was bullshit, the pats defenders got away with pass interference on numerous occasions in the AFC championship game to get to the super bowl...their so-called "dynasty" was jump started by terrible calls...the Chicago Bulls are a dynasty, not the New England Patriots
they are r 2 completely different sports and if we r talking about basketball i would say the celtics r more of a dynast than the bulls no one will ever win 11 out of 13 championships and winning 3 out of 4 super bowls is a dynasty the tuck rule is in the rulebooks so they deserve it plus they had calls going against them if that holding wasnt called on willie mcginest the pats would have blown out st louis
they also got away with numerous pass interference penalties against the Colts in the AFC Championship game when the Colts were trying to tie the game...the Snow Bowl against the Raiders was bullshit...Tom Brady fumbled, he even admitted to it...he gets way too much credit for the Pats success
ya definatley last minute drives and never losing in overtime in his career definately means he gets to much credit plus they changed the rules FOR the coltsand they'll admit to that because apparently the pats played too tough so they started bitchin about u cant give too much credit to a guy that never had great recievers to have all that success but not all the credit should go to brady either belicheck is a great coach and their defense has been great even with injuries
Pats WILL win the SB but their wrong that moss going blow up. You got to be the dumbest person in the world to mess this situation up with the PATRIOTS. The great Randy Moss has a chance to spend the rest of his career with a team THIS great and with a GREAT QB. I don't think he's going to mess this up. And NO, Moss is not that dumb.
Patriots broke a rule by using their own cameraman. A cameraman that recorded the styles of opposing teams. How is that not cheating? Even if it isn't cheating, did it really matter?
It only served to break their resolve even further when it came down to 18-1.
Sahluful 2 months ago
Wes Welker aint a side player anymore. He might be the greatest wide out the patriots have ever had.
KernalSlanders 4 months ago
That team in 07 was still the best football team that I have ever seen. I give the Giants credit for pulling out a win but that win was 1 out of maybe 10 if those two teams had played 9 other times.
BroncosXNumberX1 1 year ago 2
yeah u sound like an idiot now dude (patrots bust moron)
BoaGuy09 2 years ago
why is sleazeball ben mankshitz on TCM????????
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FUQUH1 3 years ago
wtf how did they go from moss to the 9/11 conspiracy LOL WTF?
IIAdolescentII 3 years ago
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fuck the turks
aberjan21 3 years ago
The NeoCons are controlling YOU, this is 1984.
Watch loose change and zeitgeist. Open your eyes, and stop being coerced into WAR.
Why hasn't BUSH been impeached? Why hasn't the war stopped when everyone wants it to?
THINK ABOUT IT! watch loose change
badfish301 4 years ago
stop living in the past u stupid raiders fans. even if the call went to the raiders where brady fumbled, we still would have won. go patriots!
plus44fanatics 4 years ago
im a patriots fan, but if that call had gone to the raiders the raiders could have just taken a knee and the game wouldve been over, but the call that was made was the correct call
poopitydoopitydoo 4 years ago
i cant believe that "spygate" is going to diminish the remarkable season that the pats have had in some people's eyes; this is a singular achievement that should be considered remarkable by any standard. brady and moss have been the ultimate pros and they should be considered among the greats as well as the whole team. congrats, job well done. now on to arizona!
moosetundyrockbottom 4 years ago
ok, ok, I think the Pats did a great job this year, and they will probably win the superbowl. I am a Raiders fan, and there are 2 things you Pats fans have to thank the Raiders for, without argument.
1. Trading Moss to the Pats
2. Getting that horrible call in the playoffs against the Raiders that started this dynasty. Everyone knows the Raiders should of won, and, they would have probably beat the Rams in the Superbowl that year.
jmain1980 4 years ago
So that 1 play doomed the Raiders in that game? No. The Raiders defense lost that game for the Raiders.
That "horrible call" doomed the Raiders franchise too I guess. Cause it seems like after that game they have sucked every year.
But hey I guess Raider fans gotta place blame somewhere. How bout the Raiders 200yr old owner.
anubis679 4 years ago
Come on now, you know that was a bad call, and after that game, I believe they went to the superbowl the next year after that! Of course the defense would give up after that kind of call
jmain1980 4 years ago
You mean that play where Charles Woodson Clubbed Tom Brady in the head causing that "fumble"? Is that the horrible call that you are talking about.
fsmtoyota 4 years ago
hey hey hey, i am a fucking big ass patriots fan im season ticket holder and um,mmmmmmmmm, they r now 16-0 im just saying they r the best team in nfl history baby
mcjman11 4 years ago
I told yall dumb asses that Randy is the best ever!! Much respect to Rice but Randy Moss is the greates receiver of all time. Everybody rode him off when he went to Oakland but now what, yall are feelin real stupid right about now. Congratulations Moss. 23 td catches!!
ljtheprophet 4 years ago
spygate is bullshit that team is just too confident Brady is Lights out in the 4th Qtr.
JuniorM60 4 years ago
15 -0
thats all that needs to be said
Tucker1928 4 years ago
they wont win the Superbowl. im not saying the Packers will but im positive the Patriots wont
PackersFan819 4 years ago
Nobody can touch Randy Moss
fanzy1 4 years ago 2
u guys are sooo stupid. THe only thing the patriots did to cheat was tape the JETS audibles. NOT any other team. so they may know the jet audibles, but that doesnt mean the patriots dont deserve the rest of there 12 wins
tedg4life 4 years ago
According to the papers up here the Jets had a guy thrown out of Foxboro last year in the playoffs for tapong the Pats. I don't condone cheating but you are being naive if you think the Pats were/are the only ones doing it. The tape would have had no value to us until the next time we played the Jets. If you want cheating in the NFL look no further than the Colts. That snake Polian will do anything to help his team win and that includes whining to the NFL to change their rules to suit him.
moejr1974 4 years ago
even though the patriots passing game is probably the greatest in nfl history, marooney and faulk get very few yards, i think we need a better runnning backs
tedg4life 4 years ago
If only the Patriots had hester, then not even an all-star team could beat them
monnieal 4 years ago
patriots are fucking beast stop hating on them they taking it no matter what u bitch ass niggas
zeromatic00 4 years ago
And they cheated for a reason, so don't tell me that it had nothing to do with the game being played. They had an advantage over other teams, and that means that the success under Bellicheck has been undeserved and meaningless.
mninyo 4 years ago
LOL Air America.... Figures they would be talking about Sports and not fricken Politics cause they get their asses kicked by talk radio all the time
Tophlang 4 years ago
The reason why we win is not just because we have nasty players, its because good players are attracted here-because we have a good chance at the superbowl every year. And they are willing to take less money to win. The patriots are team based, thats why we win. Go Pats.
n8jd420 4 years ago
All I know is they're not cheating now and they're destroying every opponent. Rand Moss was double covered and Brady still threw the ball and Moss caught that shit with his shoulder!! His shoulder!! The Pats look like a video game the way they killing people.
ljtheprophet 4 years ago
Bengals rule!!!!!!!!Oh wait a minute never mind.Patriots cheat yea thats the only reason they win.Thats the ticket.The only way they could stop a great team like the colts or the steelers would be to cheat or they are just really lucky.................
mosmerlas 4 years ago
bitch the patriots can beat any team any time ass fucker
anARMandAleg 4 years ago
the pats...player for player...have a better team than any other...u cant all jus start 2 wine that we cheated cuz we whooped ur asses... get over yourselves...
lK4n3l 4 years ago
and how exactly does a team cheat?
YKElEntonador 4 years ago
filming
PackersFan819 4 years ago
filming?
YKElEntonador 4 years ago
yea remember in the first week they filmed the jets?
PackersFan819 4 years ago
but how is filming a way of cheating? what exactly is filming to u?
YKElEntonador 4 years ago
its nothing to me and personally i dont call it cheating. but the league does. it is illegal to use any type of film to record another teams plays or w/e. trust me i dont think it mattered if they cheated cuz they still would have won but according to the league, they cheated
PackersFan819 4 years ago
mmm now i get it...and its stupid!! thats not cheating and they would have still pawned and they are still the best
YKElEntonador 4 years ago
if they were the best they would have won the SB
geroysimon 3 years ago
wow dude this was 7 months ago...anyways u cant say they are not the best because they lost one game, they were 18-1 and has one of the best seasons ever and tom brady had one of the best if not the best qb year, they were defenitly the best team
YKElEntonador 3 years ago
yeah but the one game they did lose was the biggest of them all.. and i didnt see that ur post was that old, but still
geroysimon 3 years ago
who cares if it was the biggest!? they were 18-1!! u cant blame the patriots for the nfl rules! its not there fault the superbowl is decided in one game! if the superbowl was decided in best out of three they would have won. they are the best period, they were just unlucky to have their worst game at the superbowl but they are definitly the best
YKElEntonador 3 years ago
@YKElEntonador But it's not best 2 out of 3. It's one 60 minute game. You bring your A game or you go home losers. The Giants wanted it more, and they were the best on that night, and that's all that matters. 18-1 bitch. 1 when it mattered the most.
Mortizism 1 year ago
@Mortizism nah they still were the best period
YKElEntonador 1 year ago
@YKElEntonador Then why didn't they win? I'm pretty sure the best team shows up for the superbowl.
Mortizism 1 year ago
Randy Moss is the man and Brady has the best receiver of all time to throw the ball to. As far as the Pats cheating, yeah they did but so does half the league. But when Brady hits Moss for 7 td's already this season, where is the cheating in that? Pats and Cowboys in the super bowl!!
ljtheprophet 4 years ago
fuck everybody who hate the patriots
LIsha1313 4 years ago
Go Randy
footballsta52 4 years ago
come on redskins!
MCSin2007 4 years ago
Peartsfan I love the Patriots. The best team ever. You guys are just some haters.
systemofadown00 4 years ago
Oh yeah----and FUCK Bill Belifuck---he has to cheat anyway--he sent over a cameraman to spy on the Jets defensive calls----man---pathetic!! Seriously--it is on MSN---I had to laugh---Little baby Brady needs the defense read to him---fucking wah wah--what a pussy!!
Peartfan2006 4 years ago
they were caught having a camera on the sideline thats the ONLY rule they broke no one talks about how shawne merriman cheated when he took steroids they only praise him the only reason this was so big is because everyone fucking hates the patriots GO PATS
DEWMOUNTAINDEW 4 years ago 10
Pats never cheated. They broke a rule by using their own cameraman. That's the only rule they broke. Even Commissioner Goodell said that it had nothing to do with the game being played.
HeyManCow 4 years ago 12
thats exactly what im saying man, everyone just hates the patriots
DEWMOUNTAINDEW 4 years ago
The media and Commissioner Goodell have to downplay the cheating because of how much money is involved. What are they going to do? Disqualify the Patriots for the season in order to serve justice and be fair? ACTUALLY, THEY SHOULD HAVE. But the reason for everything in the NFL is money, and that would simply be too big of a cost.
mninyo 4 years ago
OK. Rodney Harisson tested positive for HGH which is a banned performance enancing substance and therefore considered cheating.
habetyes 4 years ago
Wow. How many players in the NFL have tested positive for the same?
Myst031 4 years ago
ummmm shawn merriman tested positive for enhancing substance and he still considered one of the best linebackers behind others at his position which is left or right linebacker i dont remeber so yea harrison is not the 1st
tigeron2 4 years ago
Rodney Harrison took steroids too buddy. And the Patriots cheated on a coaching level. That is far worse than any individual player cheating because everyone on the coaching staff has to know about it and must work together to exploit the advantages they gain from cheating.
mninyo 4 years ago
fuck randy moss, that bitch is a dropout of the raiders, i bought his jersey for no reason
MetalGearRaid2 4 years ago
ya fuk u fagg
cmcpats 4 years ago
hahaha, did you say?
remates456 4 years ago
Man I totally agree---FIRST OF ALL___FUCK THE PATRIOTS!! I hate their fucking asses!!!! So sick of Brady and his pussy ass---Cant wait til we kick their asses--GO DALLAS!!!!! Just like we did with the COLTS!!! Who likes the Patriots outside of New England? FUCKING NOBODY!!!!
Peartfan2006 4 years ago
who cares whether ppl outside of new england like the pats i dont know anyone that likes the cowboys every one knows that everyone hates the patriots because they know that right now the patriots are the best team in football, look what they did to the supposedly second best team (chargers) they blew them away, if thats the best the nfl's got the pats could go undefeated
DEWMOUNTAINDEW 4 years ago 2
sure was
kinger56 4 years ago
I think Raiders trading Moss was just stupid.
wTFlLoVeAniMeE 4 years ago
indyrock are you another one of those "bad calls" baby....get over it already. you fuckin babys you won last year did you not. now show me two more rings then we'll talk you fuckin cum dumpster.
crazymanmanny 4 years ago
hehe yes we got moss
ampirez12 4 years ago
hehehe yes you got a bad apple. good luck!
wisdom1221 4 years ago
dont be mad pussy
cmcpats 4 years ago
hehehe yes we got moss? Where did the "WE" come from? So what is your job with New England? Let me see if your name is on the roster what's your name agian?
wisdom1221 4 years ago
the guy on the left looks like tedy bruschi's brother
patschamps0204 4 years ago
two gaylord
jacktheman20 4 years ago
assholes saints are goona win the superbowl
zekemcdonald 4 years ago
hahahahah ya keep telling ur self that
cmcpats 4 years ago
wtf, where u from, which nfl team u like?
MetalGearRaid2 4 years ago
PATRIOTS Y GOT SOMETHIN SAY
cmcpats 4 years ago
yea, moss does shit for NE but nothing for OAK. When u see him at the game, tell him that a Raider Fan said "Fuck U"
MetalGearRaid2 4 years ago
ok you fag lets see how the raiders do
cmcpats 4 years ago
WoW that was gay....
ronaldgailfus 4 years ago
catastrophe as always? patriots=dynasty
bisonballa31 4 years ago
The tuck rule was bullshit, the pats defenders got away with pass interference on numerous occasions in the AFC championship game to get to the super bowl...their so-called "dynasty" was jump started by terrible calls...the Chicago Bulls are a dynasty, not the New England Patriots
indyrocks06 4 years ago
they are r 2 completely different sports and if we r talking about basketball i would say the celtics r more of a dynast than the bulls no one will ever win 11 out of 13 championships and winning 3 out of 4 super bowls is a dynasty the tuck rule is in the rulebooks so they deserve it plus they had calls going against them if that holding wasnt called on willie mcginest the pats would have blown out st louis
DEWMOUNTAINDEW 4 years ago
they also got away with numerous pass interference penalties against the Colts in the AFC Championship game when the Colts were trying to tie the game...the Snow Bowl against the Raiders was bullshit...Tom Brady fumbled, he even admitted to it...he gets way too much credit for the Pats success
indyrocks06 4 years ago
ya definatley last minute drives and never losing in overtime in his career definately means he gets to much credit plus they changed the rules FOR the coltsand they'll admit to that because apparently the pats played too tough so they started bitchin about u cant give too much credit to a guy that never had great recievers to have all that success but not all the credit should go to brady either belicheck is a great coach and their defense has been great even with injuries
DEWMOUNTAINDEW 4 years ago
yea da dude on the rite is a retard
he had like every year wid minnesota was monster wat the fuck r u talkin bout dumbass
dabossg3 4 years ago
Pats WILL win the SB but their wrong that moss going blow up. You got to be the dumbest person in the world to mess this situation up with the PATRIOTS. The great Randy Moss has a chance to spend the rest of his career with a team THIS great and with a GREAT QB. I don't think he's going to mess this up. And NO, Moss is not that dumb.
srgyt 4 years ago
WTF was that?
Skillby21 4 years ago
allstarcashville...amen who the fuck is that guy?
leboo4 4 years ago