Interesting, the box metaphor. The focus on primacy of the object. The idea of museum as cryogenic machine. All very traditional. Museums must innovate and follow the community model like that utilized at the Oakland Museum of California which encourages visitors to touch objects and partners with communities in authoring exhibitions in particular cultural exhibitions of from all levels of society.
sometimes i think that the objects placed in museums are better indicators of the society and culture that chose to put them there, rather than being decent impersonations from the cultures and societies they originaly utilized them. (sorry for my bad english, its not my mother-language)
@giordano373 Your English is excellent, especially for a complex idea like the one you made. You should be well pleased with yourself there; well done.
i guess that is a valid way to see museums... but in a history museum i cant think about any whorshiped objects but people and what we can really decide what is important to display in a museum if most people dont have idea of history or idea of how thing were in the pass without museums and books we would not be able to see what things and people in the pass were like in person i also think that some objects displayed in museums were made by or belonged to people that shaped our history
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@lordrah the whole point of this topic is that Pinky and her friend are bringing public awareness to the fact that a certain class in society dictate what are important events and objects in our history worthy to be kept preserved. This group of people are able to rewrite or totally erase parts of history to suit their self-interests. And as the future generations visit these museums they will view society in a distorted way. Gosh I'll never be able to see museums in the same way!!!
@Houshalter Maybe not in such a dramatic fashion, but what they choose to include or left out in museums shape our awareness on historical events and, in a way, it can lead to the rebuilding of a very specific version of history.
WTF - was that shit.....some sort of child educational program,.. wow it doesnt get more boring and annoying than that, hell of a way to teach classical values ,,, bravo!!!
One thing to add. I love what archeologists do. They've expanded our knowledge so much. But I HATE when I hear them bemoan the tomb-robbing that took place in the valley of the kings and elsewhere. I know tomb-robbing was usually an inside job, but at least the proceeds went to feed somebody. Burying gold with a king is like giving taxcuts to the rich. I think that is another aspect of the museum viewpoint exposed here.
lol. the ending is quite intelligent. pinky become valueable object at the end. the rich owners of the muse-sume decided to display pinky in a glass case. Damn money whores.
Maybe they should have a stranger remove your dead grandmother/grandfather bones from their grave/ashes from urn, take it into an unknown building, plaster the item, and make you pay to view it
Obviously all those negative comments posted below have no heritage or any ancestry.
Maybe they should have a stranger walk into their home, take their grandmothers & grandfathers belongings, take it into an unknown building, plaster all the items, charge you to view it and make you never physically touch it again!
Little black kitty, many older paintings & artifacts are considered important because they are among the few objects of that type remaining from that culture. Or environmental epoch. Most major meseums are open one day a week free, so even the poorest and students, can see the collections. Would you prefer that nothing is saved or seen except by the super-rich who can afford to buy and preserve specimens? Think about that the next time you are scratching in the sand of your litterbox.
@Jefferdaughter actually many musean keep alive thanks to the donations of the super rich people whos often decide who and what can be show in the musean or what not thing that next time that you try to seem smart!!
@stjimy - Yes the super-rich support and even establish museums. Many donate numerous works, many leave entire personal collections to museums where ANYONE can view them. When did you last take advantage of that chance? Since not everything can be shown, how would you choose?
Like in a museum, your comments on YouTube are a lasting reflection of who you are choosing to be. Of course, you - like all of us - are always free to choose again.
I like the fact that they bring into question how "value" is created. I would like to point out that this video is a flawed as the thing they are "investigating" Any point which could call into question the inference that museums are bad and that "regular people" are marginalized is omitted. For instance the notion that people who study art in schools are somehow brainwashed to think a certain way or adopt certain cultural values. In general the whole video flawed by overly simplistic thinking
Museum means "place of the muses". What if the ancient Greeks had museums and archived some of their best works? We know of some great sculptors and architects from Greece's golden age and we've found written records of ancient Greece's painters but not a single one of them survives so we have no idea what they looked like. If we were to take what this show says seriously it would seem that we too would leave no meaningful records of our artworks to posterity. Sad.
@BadBunnyRides and @stjimy I'm not even going to read the whole argument, because, since both of you are being childish, neither of you are right. Take it somewhere else.
I loved this! I work in a museum attached to a library and I was, frankly, scared to watch the way it was going. But she captured my own feelings exactly.
I think Kim makes a lot of assumptions about what museums are trying to do, and she may be projecting her own feelings about class, policitcs, and culture onto the museums. For instance, while she interprets the blank walls at an art museum as a tactic to to encourage object worship, one could just as easily argue that blank walls encourage people to evaluate only the content of a piece without external cues about its value or importance relative to another piece.
juliorexodus said: "I think Kim makes a lot of assumptions about what museums are trying to do, and she may be projecting her own feelings about class, policitcs, and culture onto the museums."
ya think? surely kim's last will and testiment will include instructions to remove her report from youtube because she doesn't want to indoctrinate future generations with her values, wasting precious resources to "time-freeze" her video in the process.
@stjimy I'M a "social retard"?? You're the degenerate who had to start with the foul language. There is nothing in my first post that warrants your swearing at me. I respond with same and you get all huffy? Go away child, adults are speaking.
@stjimy Maybe you could use some of that time to learn to write & spell... wont is won't...waiste should be waste... whit is with. Seriously, that is just killing me that you used bad grammar and miss spelled two words in ONE sentence to call ME a "retard". I've been re-posting this everywhere and getting laughs. Can not WAIT to see what you write next. stjimy: "again I wont waiste my time whit a retard!!!"
@stjimy *laughs* wont = won't......waiste = waste.....whit = with.....3 mistakes in the same sentence calling ME a retard. I am laughing SO hard right now!!!!
@BadBunnyRides so are you really think that people of other countrys speek english as you!! that born or grow up whit the english languaje?? that is retard, retard!!
@stjimy Well idiot, all you had to do was use a translation program. There are plenty of free ones right here on the internet. They even have this cool new thing that checks your spelling! Isn't that great?! Now even a half-wit, bigoted, racist, moron like yourself, can type and it will be perfect.
@stjimy Oh, one more thing stjimy, maybe had the very first time you decided to say something; "u are no better than nothing!!! asshole!!!!!!!!" was probably not the best way to go about it. Unless a negative reply was what you were looking for. So please understand that what I am about to say means a great deal to me and comes right from me to you on the most personal level. Fuck off. There, now you have your feedback and someone paid attention to your small minded, and trivial, life.
That's a good one. I didn't get it at first but I see how a stuffing does not bring you closer to what the essence of the object used to mean. Very open minded way to have a transparent eye !!!
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museum are built by the government to show of the countries history and make money ....... ..... there not stoping time or doing any other bullshit ... seriously what are uu doing.... go play with ur synthetic dick .. uu fukn rat
...Thats just not true, museums where orignially private enterprises and many still are, In england most museums are run by either universitys or private comapnies and only overlooked nby the government to make sure that they aren't damaging historic objects and places of intrest. Before you say something pessimistic and say "everything's corrupt" have a real point to back it up...
i dont know if i agree. may be to some extent. there are a lot of politics envolve in museums. I usto be a contractor for the Smithsonian in DC for the Native Museum. But some museum displays are based on history, now history can be biasest but some people do try to work hard to not included their biasis in the displays. For example if u have a display in Renanisance art u display the 'important' people that contributed to that movement.
a fair point, and one i would definitely agree with. although the video is enough for me to question why the mona lisa is considered as an important object and worthy of worldwide reference
I agree with many of Kim's concerns about museums; however, at times she overgeneralizes and makes questionable assumptions. Museums, in spite of their dogmatism, in spite of their tendency to resemble mausoleums of the intellect (both of which are fair criticisms), can present us with works of art and/or artifacts that unsettle and challenge our assumptions about the world in ways that are otherwise difficult to achieve. If different cultures expand our horizons, so too do different times.
The point of the Pinky Show is to present (not promote) different and even marginal points of view. Kim overgeneralizes on purpose so that we can enjoy a different perspective. I seriously doubt that the Pinky Show is museum bashing. Lol.
Thanks for the reply. Overgeneralizations are indeed frequently of value in a satirical critique, which this does have shades of at times, but overgeneralizations are rarely better than acuity when presenting a different perspective. Further, the pov expressed in this video was hardly marginal: Kim's attacks on the established artistic canon and traditional museums are for the most part built on the entrenched cant of contemporary art and art theory. I too love the show, but this was stale.
Oh, sorry, one other thing. It is disingenuous to say that the Pinky Show presents different points of view, but doesn't promote them. The show absolutely promotes specific points of view, and, for the most part, I agree with the points of view they present. If you don't think the show promotes clear positions, I would point you to the video on solving illegal immigration and the video on the legality, or lack thereof, of the Iraq War as evidence to the contrary.
Umm.. This isn't actually taliking about all museums is it? Cause i may not understand the value represented in a painting, but I can certainly tell you that historical and natural musemums have itmes that are significant to the time period or the subject being adressed. This is an over generalization of an type of insititute that has many diffrent catagories in it. At first adress all and then to make blantant refrence to only one catagory of musemums is a little deceptive, isn't it?
LOL Let me just point out one thing. the two cats actually have the same voice. and what makes things important? I felt like pinky thinks everything on earth is wrong or not going the way she wants things to go. Well what can she expect from reality.
The Islamists are using the pirates to train their own forces in naval tactics so that they can provide protection for arms being smuggled in Somalia from Eritrea.
Another shipment arrived in July and is reported to have contained large quantities of weapons including specialist sniper rifles, heavy machine guns, guided anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft guns, as well as ammunition
I love these shows! It doesn't matter how serious the subject is, the fact that I'm listening to talking cats explaining matters of importance is hilarious. :o)
You're so right, Kim. Authority fonts on labels are, as you've said coercive - weapons of the AmericaKKKan pig power structure to punish third world people who step out of line.
I don't think many hospitals have poor people in their administrations. Why is that? Lack of education?
This video has a great message! Value is relative. It depends on you what you are gong to value or not. Look at the economic crisis. The value of the capital, land, and labor only exist in our minds. Our world still works without the huge amounts of (virtual) money. Value is relative..
I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the Pinky Shows previous work, and then out of nowhere they hit at a museum?! With no evidence beyond subjective assumptions. Kim states that museum people fight nature, in order to slow the affects of time as much as possible, that is perfectly true, and so do doctors, medicine is about keeping people alive for as long as possible. Similarly the museum attempts to retard the degradation of an objects so it can be studied and presented to new generations.
i didnt know retard could be used as a verb, but the really wierd thing is that kim is actually pinky with a tweaked voice, specificly the pitch has been raised. i'm a "über-gamer" and so i have great 5.1 surround headphones, so i can hear pinky breath. i do not have the patience but you shall! google "youtube music ripper/downloader" get that downloaded, now search "pitch raiser" and lower the pitch, you should now be hearing pinkys voice.
The arguments made about whether the object is important before or after it is placed within the museum are reasonable, although I feel that it is predominantly art which is being talked about at this stage. The argument of what things being chosen as important and not important is just stupidity, and the use of the phrase people will be allowed to worship it is just another example of the bias that festoons the video.
3. Diss the mass culture that treats us like dummies (feel bad? take a pill! feel powerless? buy a car!). Museums treat their visitors like they have functioning brains and inquisitive minds. Yay!
2. A lot of education is needed to get a job in a museum these days due to the free market, not museum animosity. There are many people who would like to work in a museum (an idealistic environment -- I volunteer in a museum, it's nice) and many applicants have relevant degrees (unlike 30 years ago). Museums pick the person with a relevant degree and the most relevant experience. And it's not about money, they don't make a lot. Read: Museums: A Place to Work; check your library.
1. Most museums are very small, staffed by about 3, plus about 10 volunteers. You seem to be generalizing from big old museums, which is surprising since you produce things like mini-zines. Diss the particular museum displays you don't like, not all museums.
hmm yes, a bit judgemental perhaps. but its certain that museums present us with a mainstream history and world view thats in line with the ruling powers view. and that in itself is always one sided.
Regarding the comment that museum people "who decide what gets to be put into the museum" are not like "you"...
That's just blatantly false. Sure, there are some out there who are disconnected with the community they serve, but the vast majority of the people I have met through my experiences are down-to-earth, always concerned about how they are presenting information to their visitors, and extremely overworked but passionate about their jobs.
Lol That was really funny...the animated cats reminded me of that animated show called HOme Videos from Adult Swim....especially cause of the way they talk.
Doesn't everything require training for people to run?
We already have the internet (a great invention) to manage what the people want.
If people cared enough, then the museum would have different things, but to be honest, not enough people care enough about what is being put in a museum. The museum professionals have to tend to their clientele anyways who help raise funds for the museum.
I'm glad there are trained professionals running museums.
I don't really agree to this one although I like all other pinky show movies I've seen so far.
There are different kinds of museums, not just art, that show you things that can raise your interest in new topics and new things.
Then inspiration is a point to start from and to do your own research.
When I was a child, I liked museums. Haven't been there lately, because I think it doesn't really give me the big amount of information within a short time that I usually want to have.
This is such utter crap, "it looks like a temple to make you worship it" wtf?! Ludicrous. Cehbeach is correct this is un-intellectual, subjective propaganda against one of the few good things to develop from society, museums dont make money & they offer free education for anyone who wants to learn. To pick on them is to pick on education and a vibrant history which explains how we got here and what mistakes were made. I would like to read this essay by Kim and pick it apart piece by piece.
Wow, the anti intellectual left! Quick take a picture so that we can put it in a museum! Set fire to the Met! Blow up the Smithsonian! You must do it to free the masses! Sorry, Pinky, Suck a fatty on this one.
I have to agree with Pinky. And what about those libraries? Think they are a little bit biased and controlled as well. I know some librarians and I wouldn't want them picking out my drink or my clothes much less what children should read.
Libraries are totally biased, but the difference btwn public libraries and museums is that (ideally) the library is stocked with what the public think is important. For example, I requested that the library purchase what I assumed to be a pretty not-popular title. Turned out a bunch of other people also requested it and it was purchased. When people stop checking it out, it will get weeded. Libraries are totally biased but at least try to represent the communities they serve...
I don't think museums are "coercive institutions" at least, not all of them. People are free to assess what is/is not important themselves. However, there is alot (not just art) that is geniunely important/valuable and should be preserved in a museum. If you were to visit the Met. Museum of Art or the American Museum of Natural History for instance, it would be difficult to find much that doesent belong there. Also, what you consider "dumb shit" could be just the opposite to another person.
Oh my stars and garters, you are hilarious. I loved it, the whole poorly spun invectiveness and your venom in showing museums as pointless and disassociated from the general population. It was just like O'Reiley, you really nailed the satire and directionless hate. You rock, I really appreciate the humor and laughter you share. Thank you
first nations voice, can obama include a way for americans to turn their attention to the world like patriotism focuses on the states. Love the whole world rather than just one country. Particularly the animals should be protected
This is so cute. Kims little teeth are fucking awesome.
OrgasmicPancakes 1 month ago
Interesting, the box metaphor. The focus on primacy of the object. The idea of museum as cryogenic machine. All very traditional. Museums must innovate and follow the community model like that utilized at the Oakland Museum of California which encourages visitors to touch objects and partners with communities in authoring exhibitions in particular cultural exhibitions of from all levels of society.
trickytoro 5 months ago
sometimes i think that the objects placed in museums are better indicators of the society and culture that chose to put them there, rather than being decent impersonations from the cultures and societies they originaly utilized them. (sorry for my bad english, its not my mother-language)
giordano373 6 months ago 3
@giordano373 Your English is excellent, especially for a complex idea like the one you made. You should be well pleased with yourself there; well done.
suzbailey23 6 months ago
I wonder is the objects are originals !!! ? I wonder how many are exhibition fakes.
mba2ceo 6 months ago
Very nice unpacking Kim. You're a good kitty.
kokopelli314 8 months ago
btw whats that tune/music called at 6:50?
I hear it so many times but I dont know the tune.
1NX9 10 months ago
@1NX9 Gymnopedie #1 by Erik Satie
kokopelli314 8 months ago 3
@kokopelli314
Thank you kokopelli! ^_^
1NX9 8 months ago
@1NX9 my pleasure!
kokopelli314 8 months ago
great video pinky & kim!
keep it going, you just can have a criminal record *pling
meow
lcvonsukmeister 1 year ago
i guess that is a valid way to see museums... but in a history museum i cant think about any whorshiped objects but people and what we can really decide what is important to display in a museum if most people dont have idea of history or idea of how thing were in the pass without museums and books we would not be able to see what things and people in the pass were like in person i also think that some objects displayed in museums were made by or belonged to people that shaped our history
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mayberry0331 1 year ago
Such an incredible critique produced in such a cute way!
coll0016 1 year ago 3
6:14 ...so true
zelgraymon 1 year ago
Umm, what is the point of this?
lordrah 1 year ago
@lordrah the whole point of this topic is that Pinky and her friend are bringing public awareness to the fact that a certain class in society dictate what are important events and objects in our history worthy to be kept preserved. This group of people are able to rewrite or totally erase parts of history to suit their self-interests. And as the future generations visit these museums they will view society in a distorted way. Gosh I'll never be able to see museums in the same way!!!
mzique 1 year ago 10
@mzique, ya cause, the local historical society is such an elite group working to rewrite history.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter Maybe not in such a dramatic fashion, but what they choose to include or left out in museums shape our awareness on historical events and, in a way, it can lead to the rebuilding of a very specific version of history.
spharktasm 11 months ago
put your cursor on 6:06, play a bit, and click it again. repeat 20 times.
you will not hear it the same again.
@dpwaco that's gymnopedie no. 1 by erik satie
teimu2 1 year ago
Does anybody know what piano song was playing at the end scene there?
dpwaco 1 year ago
@dpwaco i don't know the name of the song, but they used it in the 'man on wire' documentary. look that up and you'll figure it out
cbr0oks 1 year ago
this is way too harsh on the museums, waay to harsh.
hipp6y 1 year ago
WTF - was that shit.....some sort of child educational program,.. wow it doesnt get more boring and annoying than that, hell of a way to teach classical values ,,, bravo!!!
echafaud 1 year ago
awww lol how cute!
OwlKat8892 1 year ago
Thanks for your concern. Salute for Pinky's patience and coolness.
goodgoodgoodful 1 year ago 3
To employ impressionism...in the end...is a bit uncanny... ><
dennydaydreamer 1 year ago
Brilliant! do one on uhm... the federal reserve.
rampage0420 1 year ago 12
What a cute voice.
EpicButtSecks 1 year ago 2
Pinky be slangin them red pills, yo!
One thing to add. I love what archeologists do. They've expanded our knowledge so much. But I HATE when I hear them bemoan the tomb-robbing that took place in the valley of the kings and elsewhere. I know tomb-robbing was usually an inside job, but at least the proceeds went to feed somebody. Burying gold with a king is like giving taxcuts to the rich. I think that is another aspect of the museum viewpoint exposed here.
pentopia 1 year ago
lol. the ending is quite intelligent. pinky become valueable object at the end. the rich owners of the muse-sume decided to display pinky in a glass case. Damn money whores.
PurposeOnEarth 1 year ago
i dislike college. thank god. i resigned after 2 years.
PurposeOnEarth 1 year ago
valuable = King Tuts burial mask
Not Valuable = this
originalmonkeyman79 1 year ago
Actually i should rephrase that,
Maybe they should have a stranger remove your dead grandmother/grandfather bones from their grave/ashes from urn, take it into an unknown building, plaster the item, and make you pay to view it
You idiots!
hUsLasKn0bes 1 year ago
Obviously all those negative comments posted below have no heritage or any ancestry.
Maybe they should have a stranger walk into their home, take their grandmothers & grandfathers belongings, take it into an unknown building, plaster all the items, charge you to view it and make you never physically touch it again!
You idiots!
hUsLasKn0bes 1 year ago
Little black kitty, many older paintings & artifacts are considered important because they are among the few objects of that type remaining from that culture. Or environmental epoch. Most major meseums are open one day a week free, so even the poorest and students, can see the collections. Would you prefer that nothing is saved or seen except by the super-rich who can afford to buy and preserve specimens? Think about that the next time you are scratching in the sand of your litterbox.
Jefferdaughter 1 year ago
@Jefferdaughter actually many musean keep alive thanks to the donations of the super rich people whos often decide who and what can be show in the musean or what not thing that next time that you try to seem smart!!
stjimy 1 year ago
@stjimy - Yes the super-rich support and even establish museums. Many donate numerous works, many leave entire personal collections to museums where ANYONE can view them. When did you last take advantage of that chance? Since not everything can be shown, how would you choose?
Like in a museum, your comments on YouTube are a lasting reflection of who you are choosing to be. Of course, you - like all of us - are always free to choose again.
Jefferdaughter 1 year ago 2
@Jefferdaughter I agree.
ValiumandDolls 1 year ago
The Taliban hates Museums
HUTCHtopher 1 year ago
I like the fact that they bring into question how "value" is created. I would like to point out that this video is a flawed as the thing they are "investigating" Any point which could call into question the inference that museums are bad and that "regular people" are marginalized is omitted. For instance the notion that people who study art in schools are somehow brainwashed to think a certain way or adopt certain cultural values. In general the whole video flawed by overly simplistic thinking
ignatz1967 1 year ago
@ignatz1967 u flawed by try to seem smart dump!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
I like the music at the end of the vid so sad and hilarious!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
Awww Kim and Pinky are so cute :^D
hanson666999 1 year ago
Museum means "place of the muses". What if the ancient Greeks had museums and archived some of their best works? We know of some great sculptors and architects from Greece's golden age and we've found written records of ancient Greece's painters but not a single one of them survives so we have no idea what they looked like. If we were to take what this show says seriously it would seem that we too would leave no meaningful records of our artworks to posterity. Sad.
nicolausgbauman 1 year ago
@BadBunnyRides and @stjimy I'm not even going to read the whole argument, because, since both of you are being childish, neither of you are right. Take it somewhere else.
hmsoctopus 1 year ago
How cute. Cat + museum = love.
It's sad though, because everything deserves to be learned, and shown in museums.
hmsoctopus 1 year ago
funny
meo6191 1 year ago
I loved this! I work in a museum attached to a library and I was, frankly, scared to watch the way it was going. But she captured my own feelings exactly.
saltsister 1 year ago
I think Kim makes a lot of assumptions about what museums are trying to do, and she may be projecting her own feelings about class, policitcs, and culture onto the museums. For instance, while she interprets the blank walls at an art museum as a tactic to to encourage object worship, one could just as easily argue that blank walls encourage people to evaluate only the content of a piece without external cues about its value or importance relative to another piece.
juliorexodus 1 year ago
juliorexodus said: "I think Kim makes a lot of assumptions about what museums are trying to do, and she may be projecting her own feelings about class, policitcs, and culture onto the museums."
ya think? surely kim's last will and testiment will include instructions to remove her report from youtube because she doesn't want to indoctrinate future generations with her values, wasting precious resources to "time-freeze" her video in the process.
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ManekiNeko28 1 year ago
I wish you would get stuffed Pinky
naganab 1 year ago
Absolutely hilarious! And I'm the director and curator of a museum! --The Great American Dollhouse Museum. (No blank walls)
TheDollhouseMuseum 1 year ago
I love u pinky!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
Still not seeing how you can be called "educational" when every program you have made distorts facts to your own bias viewpoints.
Seriously, show both sides of things like this. You're no better then CNN right now.
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
Badbunnygay@ u are no better than nothing!!! asshole!!!!!!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
@stjimy That's the best you got fucktard? Seriously, that is the absolute BEST insult you could come up with you internet tuff guy?
Go away, you suck.
YOU=FAIL
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
@BadBunnyRides WTF!! I need waiste my time to imprese you social retard!!! get a life looser!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
@stjimy I'M a "social retard"?? You're the degenerate who had to start with the foul language. There is nothing in my first post that warrants your swearing at me. I respond with same and you get all huffy? Go away child, adults are speaking.
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
@BadBunnyRides again I wont waiste my time whit a retard!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
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@stjimy Maybe you could use some of that time to learn to write & spell... wont is won't...waiste should be waste... whit is with. Seriously, that is just killing me that you used bad grammar and miss spelled two words in ONE sentence to call ME a "retard". I've been re-posting this everywhere and getting laughs. Can not WAIT to see what you write next. stjimy: "again I wont waiste my time whit a retard!!!"
That's just epic Fail ROFLMAO!!!!!
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
@stjimy *laughs* wont = won't......waiste = waste.....whit = with.....3 mistakes in the same sentence calling ME a retard. I am laughing SO hard right now!!!!
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
@BadBunnyRides so are you really think that people of other countrys speek english as you!! that born or grow up whit the english languaje?? that is retard, retard!!
stjimy 1 year ago
@stjimy Well idiot, all you had to do was use a translation program. There are plenty of free ones right here on the internet. They even have this cool new thing that checks your spelling! Isn't that great?! Now even a half-wit, bigoted, racist, moron like yourself, can type and it will be perfect.
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
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@stjimy Oh, one more thing stjimy, maybe had the very first time you decided to say something; "u are no better than nothing!!! asshole!!!!!!!!" was probably not the best way to go about it. Unless a negative reply was what you were looking for. So please understand that what I am about to say means a great deal to me and comes right from me to you on the most personal level. Fuck off. There, now you have your feedback and someone paid attention to your small minded, and trivial, life.
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
TRULY briilliant!
betribal 2 years ago
BRILLIANT!!!!!
chsmgr 2 years ago
i love THIS!
klakkin 2 years ago
That's a good one. I didn't get it at first but I see how a stuffing does not bring you closer to what the essence of the object used to mean. Very open minded way to have a transparent eye !!!
12InRuin 2 years ago
I'm likin this.
glowingdarkmatter25 2 years ago
Whats the piece from 6:49 onwards?
mangaissofun 2 years ago
its one of the theme songs for deathnote thats the begining part than a gunshot sound happens and the song becums more .....chaotic
leetdragon7 2 years ago
are u sure...? Whats the song called?
mangaissofun 2 years ago
a chopin sonata, not sure which 1
darrenmmurtha 2 years ago
Are you sure?
mangaissofun 2 years ago
I was mistaken....
"Gymnopedie 1"
by Erik Satie
darrenmmurtha 2 years ago
Thank you
mangaissofun 2 years ago
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museum are built by the government to show of the countries history and make money ....... ..... there not stoping time or doing any other bullshit ... seriously what are uu doing.... go play with ur synthetic dick .. uu fukn rat
wrsslol 2 years ago
...Thats just not true, museums where orignially private enterprises and many still are, In england most museums are run by either universitys or private comapnies and only overlooked nby the government to make sure that they aren't damaging historic objects and places of intrest. Before you say something pessimistic and say "everything's corrupt" have a real point to back it up...
mangaissofun 2 years ago
@mangaissofun but point is that they were private fare away from comun people!! before try to say something positive see both side!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
i dont know if i agree. may be to some extent. there are a lot of politics envolve in museums. I usto be a contractor for the Smithsonian in DC for the Native Museum. But some museum displays are based on history, now history can be biasest but some people do try to work hard to not included their biasis in the displays. For example if u have a display in Renanisance art u display the 'important' people that contributed to that movement.
pamelapap 2 years ago
a fair point, and one i would definitely agree with. although the video is enough for me to question why the mona lisa is considered as an important object and worthy of worldwide reference
joewhittles 2 years ago
This is why I much prefer the more archaic Museums. Like what they say the Smithsonian USED to be like. Grand, rambling collections to get lost in.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago
kim is korean
cuaem 2 years ago
What is the piece of music at the end? Haunting and sad - I've always like it but don't know the name or artist.
joebruno2003 2 years ago
Erik Satie -Gymnopédie No.1
Karlfalcon 2 years ago
i want to know too!
mangaissofun 2 years ago
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its one of the theme songs for deathnote thats the begining part than a gunshot sound happens and the song becums more .....chaotic
leetdragon7 2 years ago
I agree with many of Kim's concerns about museums; however, at times she overgeneralizes and makes questionable assumptions. Museums, in spite of their dogmatism, in spite of their tendency to resemble mausoleums of the intellect (both of which are fair criticisms), can present us with works of art and/or artifacts that unsettle and challenge our assumptions about the world in ways that are otherwise difficult to achieve. If different cultures expand our horizons, so too do different times.
iloton 2 years ago
The point of the Pinky Show is to present (not promote) different and even marginal points of view. Kim overgeneralizes on purpose so that we can enjoy a different perspective. I seriously doubt that the Pinky Show is museum bashing. Lol.
MrLuvBuffy 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply. Overgeneralizations are indeed frequently of value in a satirical critique, which this does have shades of at times, but overgeneralizations are rarely better than acuity when presenting a different perspective. Further, the pov expressed in this video was hardly marginal: Kim's attacks on the established artistic canon and traditional museums are for the most part built on the entrenched cant of contemporary art and art theory. I too love the show, but this was stale.
iloton 2 years ago
Oh, sorry, one other thing. It is disingenuous to say that the Pinky Show presents different points of view, but doesn't promote them. The show absolutely promotes specific points of view, and, for the most part, I agree with the points of view they present. If you don't think the show promotes clear positions, I would point you to the video on solving illegal immigration and the video on the legality, or lack thereof, of the Iraq War as evidence to the contrary.
iloton 2 years ago
Everything said here completely reminds me of how compulsory schooling is.
Nellsing 2 years ago
Umm.. This isn't actually taliking about all museums is it? Cause i may not understand the value represented in a painting, but I can certainly tell you that historical and natural musemums have itmes that are significant to the time period or the subject being adressed. This is an over generalization of an type of insititute that has many diffrent catagories in it. At first adress all and then to make blantant refrence to only one catagory of musemums is a little deceptive, isn't it?
Phibeta696 2 years ago
Museums are stasis machines that forestall entropy/decay, Assign value, And copy reality?
eventide925 2 years ago
Dogmatic, demagogical and irritating!
And what do they have against Boucher : - )
arroideae 2 years ago
LOL Let me just point out one thing. the two cats actually have the same voice. and what makes things important? I felt like pinky thinks everything on earth is wrong or not going the way she wants things to go. Well what can she expect from reality.
Myoldnamesdontwork 2 years ago
I love the last scene of this video--it's so sad and hilarious at the same time!
jongela 2 years ago 19
@jongela its cool that she made a reference to damien hirst at the end or that german doctor who skinned dead people for art.
dsdumanat123 1 year ago
The Islamists are using the pirates to train their own forces in naval tactics so that they can provide protection for arms being smuggled in Somalia from Eritrea.
Another shipment arrived in July and is reported to have contained large quantities of weapons including specialist sniper rifles, heavy machine guns, guided anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft guns, as well as ammunition
navyman0290 2 years ago
Sounds like you have been watching to much tv.
kevbrav 2 years ago
dam this cats are cute
TimiS0 2 years ago
i want to kill those cats
xproudAmericanx 2 years ago
people like you are why most of the world hates America
Chr1sDeb0 2 years ago
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if your not american then fuck your country it must be a shithole
america is the best and those who mess with it gotta watch out for the FBI
xproudAmericanx 2 years ago
that would be funny a dog comes out of no were!
BkRulEz4eVeR 2 years ago
Brian (family guy) comes out of nowhere and starts tearing there heads off
saltzr 2 years ago
@saltzr then he rape ou and you mom before blow his brains whiat a shotgun!!
stjimy 1 year ago
i like their moon eyes
tyberfallow 2 years ago
i knew cats were a lot wiser than us
tyberfallow 2 years ago
As always, you guys post good stuffs.
Thanks for continuing to make movies.
I like them.
coffeepezaddict 2 years ago
I love these shows! It doesn't matter how serious the subject is, the fact that I'm listening to talking cats explaining matters of importance is hilarious. :o)
belliebum12 2 years ago
"so who cares". That bit always makes me laugh.
juliecranford 2 years ago
You're so right, Kim. Authority fonts on labels are, as you've said coercive - weapons of the AmericaKKKan pig power structure to punish third world people who step out of line.
I don't think many hospitals have poor people in their administrations. Why is that? Lack of education?
ZenPapageno 2 years ago
Pinky looked really freaked out.
Adeon55 2 years ago
See how the deck is stacked here? A bad example of Classical painting is shown, which suggests that all Classical painting is bad.
I agree - get stuffed Pinky, and get yourself placed in a museum historical exhibit. I suggest the Philistines.
ZenPapageno 2 years ago
This video has a great message! Value is relative. It depends on you what you are gong to value or not. Look at the economic crisis. The value of the capital, land, and labor only exist in our minds. Our world still works without the huge amounts of (virtual) money. Value is relative..
TrickyEmu 2 years ago
Ever remember going to a neighbor's house to see a good painting or read an old book?
maxaleavey 2 years ago
I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the Pinky Shows previous work, and then out of nowhere they hit at a museum?! With no evidence beyond subjective assumptions. Kim states that museum people fight nature, in order to slow the affects of time as much as possible, that is perfectly true, and so do doctors, medicine is about keeping people alive for as long as possible. Similarly the museum attempts to retard the degradation of an objects so it can be studied and presented to new generations.
thepigofhappiness 2 years ago 3
i didnt know retard could be used as a verb, but the really wierd thing is that kim is actually pinky with a tweaked voice, specificly the pitch has been raised. i'm a "über-gamer" and so i have great 5.1 surround headphones, so i can hear pinky breath. i do not have the patience but you shall! google "youtube music ripper/downloader" get that downloaded, now search "pitch raiser" and lower the pitch, you should now be hearing pinkys voice.
BishopMonster 2 years ago
The arguments made about whether the object is important before or after it is placed within the museum are reasonable, although I feel that it is predominantly art which is being talked about at this stage. The argument of what things being chosen as important and not important is just stupidity, and the use of the phrase people will be allowed to worship it is just another example of the bias that festoons the video.
thepigofhappiness 2 years ago
3. Diss the mass culture that treats us like dummies (feel bad? take a pill! feel powerless? buy a car!). Museums treat their visitors like they have functioning brains and inquisitive minds. Yay!
56kmodem 2 years ago
2. A lot of education is needed to get a job in a museum these days due to the free market, not museum animosity. There are many people who would like to work in a museum (an idealistic environment -- I volunteer in a museum, it's nice) and many applicants have relevant degrees (unlike 30 years ago). Museums pick the person with a relevant degree and the most relevant experience. And it's not about money, they don't make a lot. Read: Museums: A Place to Work; check your library.
56kmodem 2 years ago
1. Most museums are very small, staffed by about 3, plus about 10 volunteers. You seem to be generalizing from big old museums, which is surprising since you produce things like mini-zines. Diss the particular museum displays you don't like, not all museums.
56kmodem 2 years ago
I thought it said
"we love Muslims, do they love us back?"
More interesting I think...
Garciamrcool 2 years ago
hmm yes, a bit judgemental perhaps. but its certain that museums present us with a mainstream history and world view thats in line with the ruling powers view. and that in itself is always one sided.
Trybrow 2 years ago
Regarding the comment that museum people "who decide what gets to be put into the museum" are not like "you"...
That's just blatantly false. Sure, there are some out there who are disconnected with the community they serve, but the vast majority of the people I have met through my experiences are down-to-earth, always concerned about how they are presenting information to their visitors, and extremely overworked but passionate about their jobs.
gretalee27 2 years ago
Oh! That's radical! Post modern! I like it
TrickyEmu 2 years ago
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TriasTheBetrayer 2 years ago
xa xa xa!!! wondefull basic museology I loved it!!!
jbkm22 2 years ago 2
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this video is a total waste of time !!!
haodi13 3 years ago
Lol That was really funny...the animated cats reminded me of that animated show called HOme Videos from Adult Swim....especially cause of the way they talk.
LieutKusa 3 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the piano song played at the end of the video?
awesome video! 5 stars!!!!
bobbelote 3 years ago
It is Gymnopedie #1 by Eric Satie
yusukeshinyama 3 years ago
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Why do you think this paintings in a museam? Don't you think its ugly xD
briannakitten 3 years ago
This is awesome! Fun and very thought provoking.
Plus:
lol @ 1:41 - Pinky gets patronising
lmao @ 5:32
roflmao @ 6:50 - 7:07
roderickgreene 3 years ago
here is a better bushman.... search "bushman'" and "san francsico
lpdkburjsmx 3 years ago
It's not just what get's displayed, but the context.
I remember the "Bushman" display in the Cape Town Museum (in South Africa) when I was a kid (30 or 40 years ago).
It was in between displays of other animals like hippopotamus, crocodile, buck etc. in the "Indigenous fauna" (or some such) section.
Now imagine young children's impressions - "Oboy - we saw all kinds of wild animals - there was Rhinos and bushmen and ..."
... and you wonder how apartheid lasted so long?
frogfizz 3 years ago 5
naw u gay lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
malikdunners 3 years ago
wtf we know wat a museum kim der der derr
crazybrownloko 3 years ago
The perspective is totally ridiculous, but it's also very funny.
willibr 3 years ago
and pretty much true!
faelanae 3 years ago
LOL Kim is sooo stupid
dancekittydance13 3 years ago
omg sick
minyme7733 3 years ago
Geezz - whats the macrobiotic equivalent of wonderbread??
plazflot 3 years ago
Doesn't everything require training for people to run?
We already have the internet (a great invention) to manage what the people want.
If people cared enough, then the museum would have different things, but to be honest, not enough people care enough about what is being put in a museum. The museum professionals have to tend to their clientele anyways who help raise funds for the museum.
I'm glad there are trained professionals running museums.
fjaoaoaoao 3 years ago
railing against oppressive museums? this is rather embarassing, moreso than your other anti-establishment stoner rants
tuttidog 3 years ago
I don't really agree to this one although I like all other pinky show movies I've seen so far.
There are different kinds of museums, not just art, that show you things that can raise your interest in new topics and new things.
Then inspiration is a point to start from and to do your own research.
When I was a child, I liked museums. Haven't been there lately, because I think it doesn't really give me the big amount of information within a short time that I usually want to have.
dings1337 3 years ago
jesus christ thaat other cat is sooooo cute!
Axeager 3 years ago 2
This is so true...how artificial everything is! Only weeds growing undisturbed in nature are "real." Everything else is part of the Establishment.
erasmusdesiderius 3 years ago 2
This is such utter crap, "it looks like a temple to make you worship it" wtf?! Ludicrous. Cehbeach is correct this is un-intellectual, subjective propaganda against one of the few good things to develop from society, museums dont make money & they offer free education for anyone who wants to learn. To pick on them is to pick on education and a vibrant history which explains how we got here and what mistakes were made. I would like to read this essay by Kim and pick it apart piece by piece.
thepigofhappiness 3 years ago 2
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LarksTongue67 3 years ago
sounds like kim struck a nerve.
IndyTroy 2 years ago 9
you rock
NarutoNinja110 3 years ago
At the end it says "For Karen". Who is Karen ? ô_O
SgtThomy 3 years ago
Wow, the anti intellectual left! Quick take a picture so that we can put it in a museum! Set fire to the Met! Blow up the Smithsonian! You must do it to free the masses! Sorry, Pinky, Suck a fatty on this one.
cehbeach 3 years ago
I have to agree with Pinky. And what about those libraries? Think they are a little bit biased and controlled as well. I know some librarians and I wouldn't want them picking out my drink or my clothes much less what children should read.
blain29 3 years ago
Libraries are totally biased, but the difference btwn public libraries and museums is that (ideally) the library is stocked with what the public think is important. For example, I requested that the library purchase what I assumed to be a pretty not-popular title. Turned out a bunch of other people also requested it and it was purchased. When people stop checking it out, it will get weeded. Libraries are totally biased but at least try to represent the communities they serve...
bikerevolution 3 years ago
pinky can suck my left nut or my right...
wtfisthisshyt 3 years ago
That Kim is a very cute kitty-kat.
somersetdc 3 years ago
I don't think museums are "coercive institutions" at least, not all of them. People are free to assess what is/is not important themselves. However, there is alot (not just art) that is geniunely important/valuable and should be preserved in a museum. If you were to visit the Met. Museum of Art or the American Museum of Natural History for instance, it would be difficult to find much that doesent belong there. Also, what you consider "dumb shit" could be just the opposite to another person.
falcoperegrinus82 3 years ago
okay o.O
BadAssUSMC 3 years ago
Stars and garters hmmm.
lambobeast 3 years ago
lol ur sort uh gay lol no offence
ismat3 3 years ago
I'm gay. Why shouldn't that offend me?
jophus82 3 years ago
Oh my stars and garters, you are hilarious. I loved it, the whole poorly spun invectiveness and your venom in showing museums as pointless and disassociated from the general population. It was just like O'Reiley, you really nailed the satire and directionless hate. You rock, I really appreciate the humor and laughter you share. Thank you
RomTheSpaceknight 3 years ago
OMG!!!
Talking cats!
PhilipDK5800 3 years ago
Oooh! Louis Malle piano score
Rahab111222 3 years ago
More precisely, Satie.
NewTet 3 years ago
first nations voice, can obama include a way for americans to turn their attention to the world like patriotism focuses on the states. Love the whole world rather than just one country. Particularly the animals should be protected
wojiwodj 3 years ago
Jackson Pollack?
jophus82 3 years ago
were can i read appendix a
mangaissofun 3 years ago
was it jus me or was this psuedo-erotic on some level...
Godsprimechoice 3 years ago