Nice job. Keep in mind that there's this new thing that's used when you move a video camera inside a confined area, I think it's called.....a light... :o) I like the cab thoguht.
Missing the lower spectrum of the bass rotor. There is no characteristic "whu-whu" of the lower rotor ramping up mixing with the top. The treble rotor ramps quick and is spinning alone without its bass partner. Lost its dimension. To someone with ears sounds like bass rotor motor is unplugged, but due to 12" speaker, smaller cabinet, only mid frequencies are produced. The stepped speed system is cool though albeit a stylized sound overall. Motor noise is unusual. Would bleed into mics.
Totally sweet unit my friend. I built my own leslie from old junk but never had the spinning horns, they make the difference so I guess I'm back to the drawing board.
i second that question. i'm trying to bring a single speed single rotor leslie into the 2 speed age, and i'd like to know if the dc motor option would be cheaper than buying a 2 speed motor stack from ebay.
OK, so do you still have the original cab? I need it! I do not play out and have a 147 amp and one motor set. Please let me know. Nice job on fabricating your more portable unit.
I can lift the cab without too much difficulty on my own - it probably doesn't weigh that much less than the original, as really the only difference is the 12" vs. the 15" and the lack of the bottom rotor, which didn't weigh much. I'd expect I shaved maybe 10lbs max?
Totally, that would work. Although it'd be a little taller - and in my tetris-stacked band van a few inches can mean the difference between taking something and leaving it behind...
Well, it's pretty bassy as is, and I could make it bassier by putting in a proper low frequency 12. The bass rotor doesn't really 'throw' or project the sound on a leslie, it just gives a low frequency amplitude modulation, which admittedly I do lose. At the same time, sacrificing that has allowed me to take this to the majority of my bands shows, which is worth it ten times over...
It's pretty hard to see what you're trying to show, since it's so dark.
I agree with the other folks, keep the grill.
Is your horn spinning clockwise? Your video schematic said it should be counterclockwise. Did you set your sub to spin CCW instead? Is there any effect on sound either way?
Also... about how much $ did this cost you? I'm a guitar player and pedals are expensive, but so are actual cabinet parts (far more expensive, from the looks of things)
I think the horns actually spin clockwise, if I remember correctly - I don't have it in front of me, so I'm not positive. I wouldn't think there'd be any difference to the sound though.
It's hard to say what it cost me, as I had a working Leslie that I gutted and reused the parts. I'm exploring the idea of making these from scratch and we're looking at each one costing about $1,500 to make.
I know the pedals are only simulated, but for the purposes of a guitar player like myself, it's def not worth the price. I could buy a really nice guitar and a whole string of pedals for the same price as one cabinet.
The cabinet *does* have the cool, throwback quality, but it's just not worth it to me. Cheers.
I hear ya on the cost / benefit analysis man, it's definitely not for everybody.
The one thing that I will say is being in the physical presence of the thing it makes it completely worth it for me. The sound is completely three dimensional and seems to come from all over, vs. a single point like a guitar amp.
That said, you could buy it's an *incredibly* nice guitar amp for $1,500 : )
Yorkville Sound, Traynor division made their "Roto Master" from 1967-1970. I had one for a number of years and used it on top of my Leslie that only had the bottom speaker.
Nice job in producing yourself a leslie, it surely is something essential but at the same time unknown by most of classic rock lovers. Anyway, congratulations.
Bro, as a guitar player, I'm droolin'. You gonna post a schematic somewhere online? If so, tell the world! This thing'll give any musician an EAR-gasm.
I've thought about it, but I think the issue is mainly that I'd have to rely mostly on other folks- a coworker friend helped cut and route the main panels, a carpenter friend of mine did the main construction, and I had the electronics done by Kevin at Condor Electronics in Seattle. But it's intriguing...
i've seen a bunch of guitar pedals that claim to simulate the leslie but which one do you think is the best because i can't really lug something like that around. cloth in front looks cooler
Honestly I haven't really looked into many of the guitar pedals for the Leslie sound. There are some good ones out there, but the thing is, while a pedal might make it sound like a *recorded* Leslie, being in the physical presence of a Leslie is something completely different because the sound is being created in a physically different manner.
well, Leslies make tremolo (volume modulation) sounds, but also chorusing (pitch modulation), because of the way the Doppler effect effects the pitch coming from the rotors. The Uni-Vibe is the earliest attempt at recreating a Leslie in a foot pedal- I actually think it doesn't sound anything like a Leslie.
I'm currently planning my own homemade Leslie cabinet using a footpedal to control the rotor speed (using a Marshall guitar cab). I'd like it to go from 0 to 100rpm (I prefer the slower chorusey speeds). I know you said another guy designed the pedal system, but, how would I set that up?
The main thing with a variable speed Leslie is that you need to have a DC motor, which necessitates the huge transformer and stuff. If you aren't familiar with that kind of stuff then I'd suggest going to a good amp tech- they may be able to help you out. I originally used the AC motor from my original Leslie, and tried to use a dimmer switch to adjust the rotor speed. This worked, kind of, but it required me to run 120V AC out to a foot pedal and back, which is a little bit dangerous.
I'm not sure what you mean- the pedal is hooked up with a standard XLR (mic) cable- it controls the speed of the DC motor, but I don't know exactly how the electronics work; Kevin from Condor Electronics set up that electrical modification.
Basically a leslie is a *physical* way of creating a chorus effect. I didn't do a very good job of explaining it, but if you go to 3:28 you can hear the organ running through the cabinet without the effect- then when I turn the rotors on you can hear the drastic difference in sound. The leslie is just a way of creating that sound.
I know I'm four years too late but "arcanacelestia" is right - keep the piping! Great sound - but remember light is good too if you make another vid!
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CristovaoFerreira1 6 months ago
I think a grill cage would look better than the cloth.
jazzzzdude 10 months ago
A Leslie is a traditional instrument so I think you should use the grill cloth AND keep the piping.
arcanacelestia 1 year ago
flashlight! Damn... I am jealous
tylerispaulsson4 1 year ago
absolutely beautiful!! amazing sound and thanks for the tour!
henryinvisible 1 year ago
Nice job. Keep in mind that there's this new thing that's used when you move a video camera inside a confined area, I think it's called.....a light... :o) I like the cab thoguht.
SMart7751 1 year ago
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lkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkj6 1 year ago
dude that is epic. i one day hope to have a setup of my own
gotknoppix 1 year ago
.........Very Jealous..... congrats
banditsmurf 1 year ago
Missing the lower spectrum of the bass rotor. There is no characteristic "whu-whu" of the lower rotor ramping up mixing with the top. The treble rotor ramps quick and is spinning alone without its bass partner. Lost its dimension. To someone with ears sounds like bass rotor motor is unplugged, but due to 12" speaker, smaller cabinet, only mid frequencies are produced. The stepped speed system is cool though albeit a stylized sound overall. Motor noise is unusual. Would bleed into mics.
dragongoff 1 year ago
I'm very jealous.
Itseasyifyoutry 1 year ago
how much does it weigh?
paperpichu 1 year ago
lol i hope you guys are jealous. i am indeed.
bchomka 1 year ago
Totally sweet unit my friend. I built my own leslie from old junk but never had the spinning horns, they make the difference so I guess I'm back to the drawing board.
maracandrev 1 year ago
very jealous
twannock 2 years ago
its beautiful man
bobert995 2 years ago
obviously you know what you'r doing i say, perfect. I couldn't have done better!
nicholasdala 2 years ago
You win.
MaggotBrain10 2 years ago 2
Muy oscuras las imágenes....
chmelendez 2 years ago
hey. what kind of dc motor can i get or thats strong enough for the upper and lower spindle im also building me a portable leslie
jefferybrown92 2 years ago
i second that question. i'm trying to bring a single speed single rotor leslie into the 2 speed age, and i'd like to know if the dc motor option would be cheaper than buying a 2 speed motor stack from ebay.
Shwaggetyshfifty 2 years ago
OK, so do you still have the original cab? I need it! I do not play out and have a 147 amp and one motor set. Please let me know. Nice job on fabricating your more portable unit.
mortyok3 2 years ago
I am jelous too...haha
GDguitarplayer 2 years ago
The grill cloth is protection too. I look the look (as you said without the piping)
Sounds good to me.
How much of a weight difference is the project vs. the original?
mrbeautiful999 2 years ago
I can lift the cab without too much difficulty on my own - it probably doesn't weigh that much less than the original, as really the only difference is the 12" vs. the 15" and the lack of the bottom rotor, which didn't weigh much. I'd expect I shaved maybe 10lbs max?
randunivac 2 years ago
What a waste of a perfectly good cab. And playin a farfisa thru it too. Whens he gonna realise his mistake?
daftweebrush 2 years ago
as long as you're using a fixed speaker you could install a 15 in. for even more bass response.
rw5791 3 years ago
Totally, that would work. Although it'd be a little taller - and in my tetris-stacked band van a few inches can mean the difference between taking something and leaving it behind...
randunivac 2 years ago
Aren't you concerned about the loss of bass response with the 12inch speaker and not rotor to throw the sound.
dealab 3 years ago
Well, it's pretty bassy as is, and I could make it bassier by putting in a proper low frequency 12. The bass rotor doesn't really 'throw' or project the sound on a leslie, it just gives a low frequency amplitude modulation, which admittedly I do lose. At the same time, sacrificing that has allowed me to take this to the majority of my bands shows, which is worth it ten times over...
OliverMachinery 3 years ago
Great job.
It's pretty hard to see what you're trying to show, since it's so dark.
I agree with the other folks, keep the grill.
Is your horn spinning clockwise? Your video schematic said it should be counterclockwise. Did you set your sub to spin CCW instead? Is there any effect on sound either way?
Also... about how much $ did this cost you? I'm a guitar player and pedals are expensive, but so are actual cabinet parts (far more expensive, from the looks of things)
Thanks for posting!
wolfpackfan1985 3 years ago
Hey man - yeah, sorry about the video quality : )
I think the horns actually spin clockwise, if I remember correctly - I don't have it in front of me, so I'm not positive. I wouldn't think there'd be any difference to the sound though.
It's hard to say what it cost me, as I had a working Leslie that I gutted and reused the parts. I'm exploring the idea of making these from scratch and we're looking at each one costing about $1,500 to make.
embassyspeakers 3 years ago
Gotcha, thanks for replying.
I know the pedals are only simulated, but for the purposes of a guitar player like myself, it's def not worth the price. I could buy a really nice guitar and a whole string of pedals for the same price as one cabinet.
The cabinet *does* have the cool, throwback quality, but it's just not worth it to me. Cheers.
wolfpackfan1985 3 years ago
I hear ya on the cost / benefit analysis man, it's definitely not for everybody.
The one thing that I will say is being in the physical presence of the thing it makes it completely worth it for me. The sound is completely three dimensional and seems to come from all over, vs. a single point like a guitar amp.
That said, you could buy it's an *incredibly* nice guitar amp for $1,500 : )
randunivac 2 years ago
I'd keep the grill cloth. Great little project.
wado1942 3 years ago
WITH GRILL CLOTH definitely
stumptacular 3 years ago
i really am jealous
i'm about to mod a leslie from an old hammond organ for a guitar amp cab
your vid just gave me some good ideas
cheers
AlmostMetallica 3 years ago
Yorkville Sound, Traynor division made their "Roto Master" from 1967-1970. I had one for a number of years and used it on top of my Leslie that only had the bottom speaker.
kingisgonesoareyou 3 years ago
damn! i'm impressed, great job!
tragictheory 3 years ago
Nice job in producing yourself a leslie, it surely is something essential but at the same time unknown by most of classic rock lovers. Anyway, congratulations.
RailcarFerrostaal 3 years ago
Bro, as a guitar player, I'm droolin'. You gonna post a schematic somewhere online? If so, tell the world! This thing'll give any musician an EAR-gasm.
twangman77 3 years ago
really cool man, very compact looking
Itseasyifyoutry 3 years ago
Dude, have you ever thought of making more babies like this one and sellin them? If you do, tell me, 'cause I'll buy one!
Congrats, your work is really interesting and worthy
wagnervallim 3 years ago
I've thought about it, but I think the issue is mainly that I'd have to rely mostly on other folks- a coworker friend helped cut and route the main panels, a carpenter friend of mine did the main construction, and I had the electronics done by Kevin at Condor Electronics in Seattle. But it's intriguing...
randunivac 3 years ago
damn, play something man.. i waited the entire vid for some organ grinding. nevertheless, amazing work, pure DIY
Organell 4 years ago
i've seen a bunch of guitar pedals that claim to simulate the leslie but which one do you think is the best because i can't really lug something like that around. cloth in front looks cooler
4296742 4 years ago
Honestly I haven't really looked into many of the guitar pedals for the Leslie sound. There are some good ones out there, but the thing is, while a pedal might make it sound like a *recorded* Leslie, being in the physical presence of a Leslie is something completely different because the sound is being created in a physically different manner.
randunivac 4 years ago
if you think about it the leslie just makes a tremolo sound so really any tremolo pedal will do
chazum0 3 years ago
well, Leslies make tremolo (volume modulation) sounds, but also chorusing (pitch modulation), because of the way the Doppler effect effects the pitch coming from the rotors. The Uni-Vibe is the earliest attempt at recreating a Leslie in a foot pedal- I actually think it doesn't sound anything like a Leslie.
randunivac 3 years ago
yes, you've made me properly jealous. jerk.
thagrdnr 4 years ago
cool vid.
I'm currently planning my own homemade Leslie cabinet using a footpedal to control the rotor speed (using a Marshall guitar cab). I'd like it to go from 0 to 100rpm (I prefer the slower chorusey speeds). I know you said another guy designed the pedal system, but, how would I set that up?
petejt 4 years ago
The main thing with a variable speed Leslie is that you need to have a DC motor, which necessitates the huge transformer and stuff. If you aren't familiar with that kind of stuff then I'd suggest going to a good amp tech- they may be able to help you out. I originally used the AC motor from my original Leslie, and tried to use a dimmer switch to adjust the rotor speed. This worked, kind of, but it required me to run 120V AC out to a foot pedal and back, which is a little bit dangerous.
randunivac 4 years ago
thank you
petejt 4 years ago
expain how to hook up the pedal ok?
edadmartin 4 years ago
I'm not sure what you mean- the pedal is hooked up with a standard XLR (mic) cable- it controls the speed of the DC motor, but I don't know exactly how the electronics work; Kevin from Condor Electronics set up that electrical modification.
randunivac 4 years ago
wow
nice work!"
Forgottenking 4 years ago
That is freaking awesome and now I want to kill you so I can steal your leslie. (jokes)
Put the grill on. It sounds just like a leslie.
Meta1Head91 4 years ago
i dig the cloth on the front
LivinInTheFuture 4 years ago
Basically a leslie is a *physical* way of creating a chorus effect. I didn't do a very good job of explaining it, but if you go to 3:28 you can hear the organ running through the cabinet without the effect- then when I turn the rotors on you can hear the drastic difference in sound. The leslie is just a way of creating that sound.
randunivac 4 years ago