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  • part 1

    Geo-Eng_ is just a proxy cover-up for 2 Global Tyrannies:

    1) PENTAGON pays for the upfront costs ($1 Bil year) to get what they want which is a 'conductive' low level atmosphere of aerosol metal salts. Why?...because all future weapons & com/systems will use it!

  • part 2A

    The scientific truth is that it will HEAT UP the planet FASTER!

    Read study on cirrus clouds from 2007 …

    ""While low clouds have a predominantly cooling effect due to their shading of sunlight, most cirrus clouds have a net warming effect on the Earth," Spencer said. With high altitude_ ice clouds their infrared heat trapping exceeds their solar shading effect. "

  • part2 B

    Study done by:_ Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist in UAHuntsville's Earth System Science

    2)CLIMATE CHANGE = CARBON TAX - Geo-Eng is a double lie that claims:

    > a reflective cloud_ cover will cool the planet & slow Global Warming...BULLSHIT!

    read on...

  • part 3

    But...here’s the Big Picture:

    >Geo-Eng - has been going on for many years and is artificially INCREASING GLOBAL WARMING !!!

    >WHY? That supports the US GOV_ to take drastic measures to stop Global Warming!

    >Then after next election Congress will easily pass legislation for Cap & Trade Taxes and legitimize Geo-Eng !

  • part 4

    >The PENTAGON will already have their weaponized atmosphere !

    >The POLITICIANS_ will have a new weapon to tax every human on earth for being born and breathing !

    >The Corporations will make big bucks on supplying 60mil tonnes of aerosols and new delivery systems. Healthcare will make money on the side effects!

    SAD TRUTH – The combination of MONEY+ Military+ Medicine+Geo-Political Mania is probably

    unstoppable.

  • yeh there really shitting there self hey killing us and we do fuck all

  • Names and faces people. When the revolution is over....all the traitors will hang until dead.

  • they are doing this in the uk as well all the time

  • omg and pop rocks make your belly explode! and rupaul is a man!! NEWS BREAK!

  • I had read this on Facebook. This is the biggest cokamayme story i have ever heard. "chemical trails." PFFT...LOL! Airlines have to eject their remaining fuel before a decent to land. This is common knowledge to the airline, and a daily repetitive task to pilots. However, technically jet fuel is a biochemical.

  • watch "What in the world are they spraying" here on youtube.

  • watch this 2011 news coverage---- /watch?v=hnF9RmGIwO0

  • i agree

  • The "elites" will keep getting bolder and bolder with their attacks on us. They think they have nothing to fear from us.Maybe if post like this got more views than someone dancing half naked they would start to worry.

  • hhmmm, Chemtrails, interesting Topic, the spread of various diseases, and Virus' throughout the air, the common cold Etc., pretty much a thing to worry about if you care about your Health, Mental Health, and bodily condition, what a way to dim down the populace, and murder millions oh so slowly, God Speed People, Unless you want to Start a revolution and get the bastards responsible for this out of your government, and clean the place up. Totally all of your Choice, Die to Live, or Live, to Die.

  • people that don't believe this, please research. please watch all 7 parts of "what in the world are they spraying"... but then again, I guess 'ignorance is bliss'........

  • Right now im crying please lord help us people trying to kill us and him doing nothing and all theyse years their trying to kill us and theres has been proove earth will end cause the bible says the first step has been told that first thousands of birds die from the sky and it did happen and forget it god gonna end the earth theres nothing we can do.

  • Who even put the idea in our heads that we're being "sprayed?" The media (government). That's all I need to know that this is BS and they're doing something else other than "spraying" us.

  • Well done vid.

  • blablablabla....

  • weather control probably. there trying to invoke rain or something along those lines, there is allot of theories. Get some independent tests done. Whatever there spraying has to come down some time. Catch it test it then upload and tell world what it is so more tests can be done if it causes them to stop this then hey you win.

  • Why does every military and civilian jet flying high do it? Did you not see the helicopters flying and it was doing nothing. Not everyone is out to get you. This all just a bunch of crap. Planes have been doing this since world war 2. Planes that were able to reach high altitudes do this. Do you know how cold it is up there? Ugh! I seen a video of 2 P-51 Mustangs leaving trails. This is very common since at work...and all the pics of contrails are in a straight line. Not every single plane

  • travels east and west. There is a north and south to that ppl need to go. Which will cross other paths of other aircraft. Its not this hard to understand....

  • THIS IS GLOBAL DESTRUCTION FOR ALL MANKIND...

  • eVERYONE JUST LISTEN TO HOW OFTERN YOU HEAR HELICOPTERS AND MILTARY PLANES GO OVER YOUR HOUSE. tAKE A LOG OF IT. yOU WILL NOTICE THAT THEY FLY OVER AT THE TIME EVERYDAY WITHOUT FAIL. tHIS SHIT CONTAINS DEADLY MICROBES AND VIRUSES IN ADDITION TO THE METALS...THIS IS WHY THERE ARE SINUS INFECTIONS COLDS AND OTHER MYSTERIOUS ILLNESSESOUT THERE.

  • We're done.

  • My estimation of paranoid Chemnuts-

    Meet Your Meat and Marvin the PARANOID CHEMNUT ! Hitchhikers Guide

    watch?v=-IXVOUFdqiA

  • Very little use talking things with you. Complete waste of time as other people have found out.

    If you want just to chatter to yourself, go ahead !

    WHO CARES ?

  • YOUR COMMENTS MAKE NO SENSE IN THE REAL WORLD. The awakening is happening. give the sand man routine a break. Its now common knowledge. Everybody in the states is talking about it and has been for years. watch the vid. listen to the witnesses. These are military jets ERN. there is now doubt. There are only a hand full of non believers visiting these vids.... just a few, very few, of you deniers. Let ya in on a little secret. I wish it wasn't happening. I am SICK of schills Like you ERN, GFY.

  • This Chemtrail nonsense looks like it has reached its use by date!

    There are only a few stupid people paranoid enough to still believe in this hoax!

  • Hey Ern, it isn't my profile thats all about teenage boys...... yours is. Pervert. No paranoia needed to understand whats happening in this video. Geo Engineering doesn't inspire paranoia, Not with me anyway, Just rage. We know what you are about, Dis Info Schill. GFY.

  • @spiralreplicator

    As I said, you are truly SICK!

    SO EVERY MALE COACH WHO COACHES BOYS IS A PEDOPHILE TO YOU?

    GO SEE ABOUT YOUR "MID LIFE CRISIS" PROBLEMS YOU ARE CLEARLY HAVING!

  • Ya sure ErN whatever you say, But its all dis info and lies anyway. And as usual you are wrong about scientists , Meteorologist are owned by the corporate media. Even so you can see them in many broadcasts saying things about it. The geo program is classified anyway. Thats why most don't know.

    Leave it up to you ErN you'll get barred here too. Its inevitable. I know you just cant help it.

    pervert.

  • @spiralreplicator

    Sorry, spiralnutcase, you are really quite PARANOID! You know nothing about REAL science graduates, do you?

    Calling someone a pervert is proof of your sick mind!

    Go back to your nonsense videos and clam VICTORY over Ernie.

    SILLY PERSON !

  • Costa Rica is also under attack By these Eugenicists.

  • That's the same in the entire Europe, China, Jordan and some African countries!

  • This is everyday sky in Estonia too !!!

  • @aita1950

    i agree

  • these are airplane moister lines not a dam space ship

  • Ridiculous paranoia. As Carl Sagan said, (if you've ever read his works) ""Extraordinary claims require xtraordinary evidence." Study chemistry, meterology, physics, etc, then re-think your claims.

  • Did anyone pay attention in Science Class in High School? These people are parinoid idiots. Tic Tac Toe pattern is probably because you are within 20 miles of a large airstrip and ATC is putting the aircraft in the "Pattern" of trying to recover the aircraft. Aircraft do not always go the shortest route.

  • @Hallettjs7957 Go back to sleep, your an ignorant fool. There is somthing going on out there. Keep watching TV and playing your video games.  I bet you believe in gobal warming too. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • how can you compare a plane cruising to a space shuttle taking off?

    "All this about chemtrails" you say

    so..you have seen some testimony from highly educated people..and they too are talking complete rubbish? the fact that it has become a MASSIVE ISSUE doesn't even make you consider that YOUR GOVT would care to poison you or even simply control the weather to defeat the "War On Climate"..??? (BS)

    The govt. admit they do it & you STILL say rubbish?

    i'm quite alarmed! so whats the truth?

  • ALL THIS ABOUT CHEM TRAILS YOU GUYS ARE ALL TALKING COMPLETE RUBBISH, ASK AEROPLANE ENGINEER AND GET YOUR ANSWER, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME EFFECTS WHEN SPACE SHUTTLE TAKES OFF TOO, ABSOLUTE RUBBISH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GET REAL

  • Days of rain after days of chemtrails.........

  • Lots of chemtrails here today......

  • I just received an email from one of my boys parents-

    "I agree Ernie. I think some sessions during the holidays would be in order.

    As always, your efforts are greatly appreciated.

    Greg"

    This satisfy your perverted mind ?

  • @ernietube1 ERN you cock sucker We kicked your ass of the other vid we will kick your ass here too. punk schill. Once Again refute this info , tell me all about how this is normal . Lier.

  • Thanks for the compliment. I am way past worrying about "getting any woman", in particular old bags like you !

    ALL the mothers who sons I coach have a considerable respect for me helping their sons. This is something "old maids" like you fail to understand.

    Your son when he reaches high school age at about 13 will soon tell you to mind your own business and leave him alone! Looking forward to that, are you?

    So, old bag, back to your sowing circle of old cronies

  • YOU wish you could get young women. ThIs is one of your many problems. I am sorry you were rejected repeatedly from women, however, this has nothing to do with chemtrasils

  • I still am amazed how a post menopausal woman ends up using slander when she losses any argument. Most be the "OLD MAID" syndrome, I guess-

    Spinster

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    (Redirected from Old maid)

    While men can continue to have children into their 70s or 80s, women generally become less and less able to bear children as they get older. So the term "old maid" is only applied to women who are past a child bearing age but have never married.

  • As I said, you are completely delusional. This is typical of a post menopausal women. Have you tried some hormone replacement for your problems ?

    Have you got a male companion living with mou ? I doubt this as your ideas about male coaches is a complete nonsense. Go get a life, old bag !

  • @erniepond1 ERN your hatred for women is not acceptable. every video you have schilled on you are just nasty to the women. well Ern You are a buggerer of boys and a pedophile. pervert , you are not acceptable.

  • Ernie I am too young for you and indeed the wrong gender for your desires.. that much is obvious.

    I think you are disturbed, so maybe we give you some leeway......however , I would never let you within ten feet of my son!

    Ps, it was my brilliant son who first noticed the chemtrails!

  • The old dried up bag here as well ?

    Nothing valuable to do with your spare time ?

    At present, as you may see I am uploading

    videos of my high jumpers at the State LA Championships. Pity you have no worthwhile commitments !

  • @erniepond1 Im here for ya, You stinking Cock Sucker ..../ Haunted and harangued you will be at my bidding, looser and Pervert . Why dont you drown yourself in some more fosters and gin.

  • @spiralreplicator

    HEY paranoid, it was the authors arse that got kicked. The coward blocked me and Goffer!

  • @ERNIEMAC2 You Got blocked for spamming and being shitty to the ladies. Your constant trolling didn't help ether , pervtard.

  • @spiralreplicator

    TOTALLY WRONG as usual. I got blocked because I stated that NO scientist or meteorologist has ever supported Chemtrails.

    THe sex or otherwise of people commenting in YouTube is of NO consequence! Your mid life crisis should this out to you and your too few Chemnut paranoids.

  • ernie no one with half a brain believes anything you say

    those chemtrails spread out and cover our skies blocking our beautiful sun

  • Organizations like NAS, EPA and numerous weather research agencies have given very detailed and comprehensive cover of the Contrail problem.

    Just because you Chemtrail ratbags don't read or understand these reports does not mean they don't exist.

    See

    Contrail Formation, Perseverance and Spread, SCIENTIFIC SUMMARY

    watch?v=tGNXrgL7-qo

  • We deserve clean air!

  • where is our real sky

  • Chemtrails appearing from nowhere

    watch?v=0inbckS-7wQ#t=2m22s // no plane, trail grows more 5 mins later

  • this paper written in '72- long before "chemtrails"- 100s more since-

    Contrail cirrus- do the research

    "Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail"

    Knollenberg

    Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences (October 1972)

    "It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, and entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours ."

  • Google this

    STADIS 450

    might answer some questions on chemtrails from commercial flights.

  • It's ironic that those who are supposed to defend our Constitution give up their freedom right away. If you're a soldier in the army these days you are owned by the army, and that is unConstitutional.

    Big chemical, big oil and big pharma's #1 enemy, the way they see it, is Nature. Kill Nature and they've won is the way they see it in their distorted thinkng. You know what the reality is right?

    Anti-Nature is The Anti-Christ. make your own electric car, easy. soisnessdotorg

  • Watch it... the Gopherhead will crawl out of his hole and tell you that basic science makes everything natural and okay...

  • I have never said anything even remotely similar to that. Sounds like "disinfo" to me". My mistake , I remember now YOU only call facts and the truth "disinfo".

  • You're CLEARLY not open to questioning the science you have do everything to promote as irrefutable as it relates to this issue. If not, please reassure me of your openmindedness

  • To some degree I am open to questioning the science. Overall you are correct though I am not openminded on the issue at all but there is a very good reason for that. did It ever occur to you that certain people due to their jobs would know for a fact one way or the other that chemtrails are real or not??? I am one of those people ,that is why i don't have to be openminded. That is like me arguing with you about your name, you don't have to be openminded you already know, right.

  • Nevertheless, you cannot afford to consider your experience - however earned - to provide you with the last word on the science of 'things seen' from the perspective of others.

  • When have said anything remotely similar , that doesn't even make sense

  • If you do not question 'proof', I reassert that your perspective is FUNDAMENTALLY DANGEROUS.

  • Questioning is one thing, ignoring it altogether is totally different.

  • True, but I don't rest easy with your eagerness to ridicule; it does not behoove your apparent wish to convert the opinions of some with the 'proof' you present

  • I could be wrong about a few but not all.

  • I give the others on here a little more credit than you appearantly do. I don't think they could possibly be as bad as you.

  • I question how much credibility you give anyone on here since you have already placed us in the same catergory as reptile conspiracy nuts. Yet I am surprised to here an admission that you could be wrong about a few. Perhaps I could also be wrong about a few.

  • The reptile conspiracy nuts are using the exact same reasoning as your observations.

  • That didn't answer my question. One minute you decry the whole thing by suggesting that chemtrail theorists are reptile conspiracy nuts, then you open up a possibility that you may concede that SOME trails warrant further investigation by means of suggesting that some are explainable by science, whereas maybe some are not... and now you're back to bunching reptile believers with chemtrail believers. Sounds as though you don't really know what to think.

  • I was comparing your reasoning to that of someone that believes in reptilian humanoids not reptiles.

  • A further attempt by you to ridicule, rather than encourage an open approach to dealing with people's concerns. A logical person questions ALL - even that which is 'proven'. ALL may accept that the world is round, some may want to explore the proof of it. It is not up to you to ridicule, and cite apparently all-encompassing proof which is supposed to be the LAST WORD on the subject, despite the fact you don't acknowledge any other researchers (besides Carnicom) who conflict your propositions.

  • I see, It is only ok for you to ridicule me. Not the other way around. I have never had a problem with anyone questioning anything. That is the very reason i have to site "proof" etc. That Is so a person can make up thier own mind not based solely on YOUR onsided opinions

  • My opinions are just that MINE. You, nor anybody else have to agree, but you have done your utmost to ridicule MY opinion and label me as moronic. Can't take a little self-defense? I am pleased to read that you do agree that science and proof should be question however. On that we can agree and go our separate ways. I may choose to believe what I want to about the issue, as may you, and everyone else. No wise man has ever or will ever question the reasoning behind questioning EVERYTHING.

  • It is not your opinion I have ridiculed It is your irrational way of thinking

  • That is mere-justification of your standpoint

  • Just like you have ridiculed the basic comments I suppose you would justify as 'irrational ways of thinking' connected with your posts on other videos, I suppose....

  • that and deliberately posting false and fabricated information for the purpose trying to deceive others .

  • Also, I see that you arrogantly determine 'purpose' based on a presentation of bias and supposition.

  • Please read your posts again you are the king of supposition.

  • Nice return. Not a defense as such... but a return, nonetheless.....

  • Opinions don't require a defense

  • That's what I'VE been telling you, but apparently you've not accepted that from me because you've sought to follow-up with rejection and ridicule as it relates to MY opinion - and evidently the video poster's opinion... and maybe most people commenting here and on other similar videos....

  • How many times do I have to repeat myself, It is not your opinion I have a Problem with, It is not your opinion I have a Problem with , It is not your opinion I have a problem with, It is not your opinion I have a problem with, It is not your Opinion I have a problem with, Did you get it yet???????????

  • Ahh the debate as to where one person's presentation of facts end, and

    where someone's opinion of the presentation of those 'facts' begin.... Perhaps YOU get that???????? You've gotta be kidding me. Your comments are clearly concerned with a presentation of a bias and opinions. PERIOD.

  • Ridicule is your tool for having a problem with the opinions of others.

  • or is that a problem with their line of thinking???? Same difference.

  • or maybe with others have a problem with the presentation of your unquestionable facts. Roll it anyway you like...

  • I have never presented anything as unquestionable facts. you continue to make stuff up and talk in circles constantly repeating the same thing over and over. You just made yet another reference to me having a problem with others opinion yet again, how many times have I explained this 20 at least and you still don't get it.

  • Okay.... so out of all of the posts you've made here, what is your beef, and with who exactly.... Now be careful not to ridicule or criticize the opinions of others, bearing in mind that my opinions of your presentation of the facts surrounding this issue are just that.... MY OPINIONS OF YOUR PRESENTATION OF THE FACTS YOU STATE ARE APPLICABLE IN.... 99% or 50% or 25% of Persistent Trail observations? Who knows what percentage... Perhaps you're arrogant enough to tell me EXACTLY?

  • I've heard your facts over and over again, and I don't accept they apply in 100% of the circumstances. That's my OPINION, and I'm assuming you now respect that, yes?

  • By the same token, I'm assuming you respect the opinion of all Persistent Trail observers who may concede to the facts you present in SOME situations, but not necessarily ALL or even MOST - after all, 'opinion' leaves enough latitude to make alternative assessments..... correct?

  • Do facts also prove that it is theoretically possible to spray the atmosphere with chemicals by means of airplane-based spray tanks - for an unknown purpose - regardless of how preposterous that may sound to some people who account for their observations with other facts? Overwhelmingly yes. And so.... we draw a conclusion based on personal evaluation and opinion. One which you obviously now respect me for having and airing.

  • Please don't insult our intelligence by trying to create the illusion of starting your posts here. You think everyone 'believing in' Chemtrails is moronic, do you not?

  • Because if so... it IS my opinion you are rudely critiquing, not my 'irrational way of thinking'.

  • I have not tried to create the illusion of starting posts here. I have no idea what you are talking about and once again have to correct you.

  • "correct me" all you like; your posts have shown no consistency in creating the impression that you have have any real degree of open-mindedness, and you are HERE to present an opposing case, I am not. I didn't post this video. Apparently you cannot decipher whether it is my opinion or my 'irrational way of thinking' which disturbs you most. Either way, your approach will not win many followers if it's based on ridicule and an arrogant presentation of a biased acceptance of the 'unquestionable'.

  • Oh, so in your arrogance of knowing all 'YOU' 'HAVE' to cite "proof". Noble for you to take on that cause of objectivity, but your tone of ridicule is not conducive to letting a third party decide by information or 'facts' alone. We already know that your tone has been one that proof is irrefutable - especially since we can follow your posts elsewhere. Have you not done your utmost to ridicule everyone opposing your opinion?

  • pardorn me, your opinion on the irrefutable, all-encompassing proof you have presented....

  • What question did I not answe???

  • You have not specifically explained the simple science behind why broken trails are evident. You have not accounted for the scientific micro-changes in the atmosphere to account for this. By YOUR reasoning, the broken nature of condensation trails would denote jet engine disengagement, at which point one would assume the airplanes are at risk of plummeting. Your 'natural' explanation demands attention to this, also.

  • I have explained it befor just not recently It is much easier for me to give you a source and let you look it up. Try the contrailscience website. There is no such thing as jet engine disengagement and planes do not plummet when they lose power. Remember the plane that landed in the hudson recently with no engines running . Did it plummet. No it used a ram air turbine to power all essential electronics and hydraulics for flight controls. Just as it is designed to do.

  • Well, I've witnessed MIGHTY long breaks in trails.... to the point that they do not re-appear right up to the horizon.

  • I don't doubt that at all . did you read the explanation on the contrailscience site. Another consideration you might want to make is that you may be seeing a plane starting it's descent. From cruising altitude when a plane starts it's descent they reduce power sometimes all the way to idle. They don't reapply power until they reach thier desired altitude, It could easily be 30-40 miles later or even longer.

  • Neither my location, nor the direction of the airplane provided for a 'landing altitude descent' explanation to the observation made. You can doubt the credibility of my observation all you like.

  • I said descent, I did not say landing altitude descent. Planes are requested to change altitudes for many reasons. I never said anything about the credibility of your observations either. I was offering you an explanation as to why the scenario you described could occur, not that that is what you observed.

  • Finally something I agree with. Observationally-speaking, the reasoning is the same. People have witnessed them both. Reptiles have been studied, researched, and photographed many many times. Reptiles do tend to be somewhat shy though. Some people say they've even found their way into nature/wildlife books?

  • As a general comment, I have no problem with anyone believing these trails to be a naturally-occurring phenomenon to go about their daily business and find a science to fit their observation-free perceptions. Be my guest. But we may want to spare a thought for future generations when we KNOW that the HAARP ionospheric research program exists, as well as countless other programs which operate without any form of responsible restraint.

  • I am not finding science to fit and observation-free perception. I use science to help explain what I see. It is you that uses science and fact-free observations.

  • You've satisfied yourself with a scientific conclusion, and your 'observation' is based on that scientific conclusion and the bias it creates in your own perception.

  • You haven't been listening. My observation is not based on a conclusion. I will try yet again to explain it to you. Here is an example concerning the realtive humidity. As a pilot you are taught a great deal about the weather because your life depends on it. You have to base your decisions on wether it is safe to fly on weather briefings and forcasts right. You are taught that when the temperature approaches the dew point THERE WILL BE OBSERVABLE MOISTURE IN SOME FORM.

  • Go tell it to people who will listen. Probably the wrong place here.

  • You have nothing to offer here. Please use your time more wisely and post your own video which will attract people believeing in an easy answer to this issue. I remain unconvinced, as will others here, I'm sure.

  • Thanks for finally admitting it. You don't listen and ignore the facts and then wonders why don't i understand what is going on. It must be a conspiracy. Lizard people are out to get me or whatever nonsense the mind can dream up.

  • I have admitted nothing. It's predictable that you use your unacceptance of the views of others as an attempt to redicule based on sterotyping. It's the height of arrogance to assume all is known or contained by a known human science of simplicity. Our science is one of simplicity and safety. I'm certainly interested in that which lies beyond the 'givens' of contemporary 'science'.

  • Who the hell said or claimed "all is known" BS

  • You most certainly did admit to something. You admitted you were not going to listen to my explanations. that is what I'm talking about. I guess you have lost you powers of observation again. the same one that lead you on your misguided path to chemtard knowledge

  • ........ along with those many other researchers you have no regard for - most of whom have heard your simple science a million times yet remain unconvinced..

  • I can't help it if they are stupid.

  • You have such a gracious consideration of the opinion of others. I bet you're a popular character down at the Y.

  • kind of like the people that insisted the earth was flat despite proof to the contrary. Just like you reasoning. It makes no sense at all.

  • 'Proof' sets-itself up in a structure of accepted 'wisdoms'. By your reckoning, established third party 'proof' requires no further application of thought/analysis. I propose that your thinking is dangerous. There is clearly more harm in what you propose - NOT to question what some perceive as irregularities. Furthermore, you ridicule, reinforcing your dangerous approach to accepting 'unquestionable' proof. No matter how illogical my perceptions are to you; your position is the most dangerous.

  • You check the weather beforehand and notice the temp. is say 95 and the dewpoint 93. you then go outside and damn would you look at that, there is haze everywhere. It isn't hazy because I have a biased perception it is hazy because of the high humidity. when you fly or do anything else that requires close observation you will soon see whether or not your training is correct or not.

  • It is sad that people can look at this and still deny chemtrails exist.

    Perhaps they had to much fluoride when their brains were trying to develop.

  • How sad you don't!!

  • This is the saddest thing to witness & has already been going on for 10+ years. My question is why are there days of no apparent spraying? Depopulation would be achieved more quickly on a 100% consistent, day-in, day-out spray basis - unless it's a question of being economical, or slowly-effective in combination with other exposures. Spray-days reduce visibility to a 10 mile 'ChemFog'. My advice is avoid being outdoors on these days. Regardless of intent - the stuff is toxic, illegal, & immoral.

  • i think if this was 100% consistent everyday for the last 10 years...A lot more sheep would be awake already.

  • But would they? If someone's line of thinking is that these are harmless contrails, then why aren't we seeing them day in day out, since the dawn of the jet aircraft? People who think it's sad to 'believe' in this are clearly not addressing the notion that it CAN happen, and IS happening. Its not Santa Clause or even UFOs... it's not a case of BELIEVING in it.... there's enough of it going on to OBSERVE the whole thing, so long as you have the gift of sight & the mind to question. Just LOOK....

  • It is called different weather conditions. You might find this hard to beleive but temperature and humidity varies from day to day. The lack of "spraying" just happens to coincide with low humidity and dry air, what a coincidence.

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  • Your patronization adds nothing. Areas exist in the world where humidity remains fairly stable and air remains dry, yet the trails still appear/do not appear on a daily basis when weather conditions are constant. I live in such an area. Notably, watch how the OBVIOUS spraying leads to an OBVIOUS increase in air particulates, hazing, & greatly reduced visibility with a 'chemfog' horizon of 10-14 miles - a direct and predictable result of 'fallout'. But by all means, comfort yourself as you will.

  • There is no place on earth where the humidity is constant from ground level up to where you are seeing your "spraying".

    that is avery simple fact you fail to understand. You can deny the differences exist in temperature and humidity all you want but denying scientific fact is the reason you don't understand what is going on. Haze is produced anytime the temp gets within a few degrees of the dewpoint a proven fact. You can blame this on whatever you like it is still a fact you can't refute.

  • I'm talking about relative humidity. I'm not open to your explanation - nobody ever saw persistent trails before 1996, which is when the spraying program commenced. Governments have patents, have admitted weather modification/cloud seeding, and the HAARP project is in full swing. I'm not talking about the haze you're referring to. Carnicom measures heavy metal particulates in the air before and after spraying. Explain it away all you want... all of your 'natural' explanations don't add up.

  • The split between temperature and dewpoint is what determines relative humidity. persistent trails most certainly have been around before 1996 it is very well documented and aproven fact.cloud seeding is something totally different than what you are talking about. It also requires a cloud to seed or it doesn't work. The fact explain it perfectly. It is your dimwitted theory that doesn't add up.

  • cloud seeding does not produce persistent trails either. It is done using flares mounted on flare rails. Have you seen a flare rail on any of the planes leaving the persistent trails. of course not.

  • Well I see that you are an unmitigated expert on cloud seeding, all associated HAARP technologies, and their impression on our skies. Perhaps persistent trails are not the manifestation of a cloud seeding program - yet they exist, planes spray them, and observers observe and researchers research. I suppose the spontaneously broken trails are the result of the airplane engines cutting out... or being powered-down to periodically save on gas... or perhaps micro-changes in atmospheric humidity?

  • Broken trails are easily explainable If you know how contrails are formed. You should be able to tell me though since you think your observations from the ground are more reliable.

  • I am not nor have I claimed to be an expert on cloud seeding or HAARP.

  • Yet you claim to know the only means of cloud seeding via flares

  • I never claimed flares were the only means of cloud seeding. That may have been the only example I gave, that is different than claiming that is the only means. What has happened to your claimed super observation powers

  • Nothing to see here.... move along.....

  • Read my other comment concerning airplane CONTRAILS; they have never been historically persistent and haze-inducing to the same extent as modern persistent trails. They do not transmute. Seeding merely denotes airborne experimentation, and you know as well as I that human experimentation knows no bounds, limits, or responsible restraint. It's significantly more dimwitted to bury your head in the sand and accuse others of being 'dimwitted' simply because they don't share your tidy conclusions.

  • My conclusions are so tidy because they are proven with scientific facts cnsistent with my observations unlike your observation only approach. Tell me what are in the chemtrails using observation only. tell me how the chemicals are dispersed using observation only, You even said yourself. "I am not open to your explanations" Your views are dimwitted.

  • If you feel simple science places this issue in a comfortable box for you, I'm happy for you. You seem to label 'my views' as 'dimwitted'. There are a great number of people sharing my opinion. Carnicom puts a great deal of energy into a 'dimwitted' project as far as you are concerned - as do many other credible researchers. It seems so much more dimwitted to put everything in a comfortable box labelled 'known', then store that box away in a closet which you will never open again.

  • I swear you do not read what I have been writing. Science doesn't place anything in a comfortable box. Listen closely this time, i wil attempt once again to make myself clearer . Science suggests how things should work. People who have to apply this science on a daily basis will be able to prove or disprove how accurate it is. The science involved with weather is used daily by pilots since planes were invented in 1903. That is 106 years of application that has proven it right.

  • Apparently you don't listen either. You have nothing to offer here.

  • Only because you consider facts nothing to offer you are right in your delusinal mind.

  • noone has seen persistent trails before 1996. try viewing the youtube video "memphis belle ww11 contrails"

    I have seen them myself since the early seventies.

  • There is a distinct difference between persistent 'chem' trails and vapor contrails. I've never denied that vapor-based contrails have been left by airplanes. When we talk of persistent 'chem'-trails we are talking about a chemical action which causes a trail to spread out and contribute a chemically-induced cloud cover over time. Persistent trails are just that - vapor trails evaporate fairly rapidly, are not persistent in the same way, and do not transmute to form cloud cover.

  • carnicom is a homemade website set up to lure idiots into sending them money nothing more.

  • Since when does 'homemade' mean not credible, poorly-researched, or established on the basis of 'luring idiots'? Carnicom has funded his own expensive/time-consuming research. I don't believe his site attracts donations, yet his studies continue. His site attracts a great deal of interest from many corporate/medical/government bodies; perhaps you're suggesting these are the 'idiots' sending him money to somehow create an illusion that has - by your reckoning - fooled masses of intelligent people