TVA Coal Ash Disaster Truck Tracking with Bob Alexander of TDEC and Gil Francis of TVA

[SPACECADET2U]

looks like cow manure to me..........



[WaterFish22]

lol no helth impact no enviromental impact......

[JCuppett]

isnt it againt the law to video someone with out permission..... thats pretty low.

[RAIDIOFACE]

welldone keep up the good work

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[annebonnylives]

All charges were dismissed--because they were bullshit.

[BrownTown5555]

On another note, wasn't it a condition of this guys parole that he was not allowed to interact with TVA employees working at the spill site, because it would appear as though he is talking with a TVA employee in this video right here, maybe the judge would be interested in seeing this video?

I'm pretty sure hes not dumb enough to have fallen into that trap though I'm just pointing out ways to make a guys life harder like ya'll seem to find entertaining.

[BrownTown5555]

Maybe I should follow you around and call your boss to complain and see how you feel? Attacking a mans livelyhood isn't exactly the way to win friends here.

How would ya'll like it if I followed you around with a camera and forwarded every instance of jaywalking, speeding, etc to your employers?

[annebonnylives]

Well if its was my responsibility to keep the heavy metal laden toxic ash off the highways and I was driving off site with it I think I would just have to deal.

We are not talking about jaywalking or speeding--we are talking about ash proven by all test to contain arsenic, and heavy metals and to be dangerous to human health being tracked out on the highways.

Matt was not attacking the mans livelihood--he was insisting he do his job because public health is at stake.

[BrownTown5555]

There is more arsenic in the computer you are typing on than there is on his car there. Arsenic is one of the dopants in semiconductor manufacturing and as such is found in your cell phone, car, TV, etc.. (same is true for several other heavy metals)

As for this dude, he is attacking one of the few people who actually support shis views. Not only that, by attaching his job he is also attacking this dudes wife and kids. TBH alot of people would just punched your boy in the face right there.

[annebonnylives]

The arsenic in my computer is not 2.5 microns and doesn't turn into an aerosol and go straight into my deep lung tissue when it dries.

Again--one person is not relevant in this--what is relevant is the public health hazard of having a trucks every day tracking a dust when has turned up hot for selenium, mercury, arsenic=--an entire witches brew of heavy metals-. If he doesn't want to get hassled he should do his job--public health is at stake.

[BrownTown5555]

Selenium is used in some types of solar panels (as well as my multivitamin), mercury is used in batteries and fluorescent lights (including those environmentally friendly CFL bulbs), arsenic is also used in solar panels as well as all computerized equipments. All these chemicals end up in your local landfill by the millions of pounds each year.

Sitting here there is an arsenic containing computer 2ft away, selenium containing vitamins 10 ft away and mercury containing lights 5 ft away from me.

[annebonnylives]

Yes--and if you grind those down into a powder that was 2.5 microns--spread it around your house and breathed it in your comparison would make sense. I would make even more sense if you took a thousand computers, ground them into a fine dust of 2.5 microns--then spread it all over the highways for other people to breath. Apples and oranges--your comparison makes no sense.

[BrownTown5555]

How many deaths are you honestly expecting from this "disaster", hopefully its alot conisidering the 500+ million being spent to clean it up. I kind of wonder how many lives could we save with that money, how many life-saving medical operations that would otherwise never get done for lack of insurance for example. When you justify spending money on this cleanup you also must justify NOT spending it on them. your moral feeling is good, but they are based on faulty logic and lack of knowledge.

[BrownTown5555]

I know you think you have the moral imperative here, but by only looking at ONE cost (the environmental one) you ignore the many other costs. Energy is required for to maintain our quality of life, when you can come up with a better way to produce it trust me, people will be all ears. Fankly, coal SUCKS as an energy source, but until ya'll stop protesting nuclear, or solar prices are 1/4th what they are today there really is no better thing out there.

[FluxRostrum]

actually there have been many people who have come up with better ways to produce energy. A lot of them die mysteriously. Many other viable energy producing endeavors that are common knowledge never get the proper funding to bring them to the masses because of coal & oil lobbyists. .. for instance Wind Farms ... proven to make more energy and have less impact. Too bad we can't spend the 500 million on a wind farm. Clean up your mess with your profits.

[annebonnylives]

How about the health cost of thousands of people that die from the coal pollution? Or the economic cost of blowing up highland watersheds that produce clean drinking water? What about the cost of dealing with all the ash? We will break this addiction to this 19th century tech when Americans stand up and demand it. We have the technology--we just need the political will power.

[vrede420]

"our quality of life"

There's the rub. 5% of the world's population consuming 25-30% of its resources is not sustainable, no matter how much profit it brings TVA. Whatever energy sources we choose, the future must include the cheapest solutions of all - conservation and reduction in American greed.

[BrownTown5555]

Well, since that's the way its been for most of human history I would say its pretty sustainable to be honest.

[vrede420]

I see. You believe that resources are infinite, just because we haven't run out of them yet.

Or, you think that civilizations have never fallen because others coveted "their" resources.

How did you do in science and history classes?

[BrownTown5555]

Straight A's ,which is why I'm gainfully employed and not a penniless hippie with nothing better to do than annoy hard working people :p.

[annebonnylives]

If someone comes and blows up your house tonight and spreads toxic ash all over your property then says "sorry--we would fix this--but we can help allot more people in Africa with this money" are you going to be consoled? or "We are sorry--we would fix your house we destroyed --but we can insure allot more people if we just leave it destroyed" Will that be right? No --its your logic that is faulty.

[BrownTown5555]

Maybe not, but these people ARE being compensated for their lost possessions. And that's only a small fraction of the money being spent, most of it is to clean up alot of mud. It all came out of the earth, and now its back where it started.

[vrede420]

Silly. Your argument presupposes that TVA would spend the money otherwise on "life-saving medical operations" when we all know they won't. More likely, it would go to executive salaries, more dirty development, and PR hacks - like you, perhaps.