HA HA lol "Please house our Muslim enemies " Because the European Jewish "Crusaders want to keep there land and build walls and road blocks everywhere Israel seem,s like a exclusive church,
In order to address the question of Right of Return for Palestine refugees, please bear in mind Israel’s actual accepted & Internationally “acknowledged” and recognized boundaries Sovereign territories of Res 181, do not include territory illegally acquired by force/war or non annexed and illegally annexed territories since Israel’s declaration of Sovereignty.
There is no legal OR logical basis for Israel’s demand that RoR be tied to a peace agreement. The reason there is no legal basis is because it just doesn’t make sense. RoR is an individuals right to decide to return or accept compensation, be they Jewish, Arab, Inuit. In order to return, they must, as individuals agree to live in peace INSIDE the country of return, as citizens of the country of return.
A peace agreement however, is with a neighbouring entity to live ALONGSIDE in reciprocal peace, with it’s citizens, WHO HAVE NOT returned can happen in peace or war. Which is precisely why resolutions and law advocate ‘refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date’, it does not depend on a peace agreement between entities.
All civilians have a right to flee violence, no matter who starts a war or who tells them to flee or for what reason, because they are A) CIVILIANS. B) They might not have voted for, or even been able to vote for, the regime in power when hostilities began. All civilians fleeing from an area of conflict have a right to return, when the danger has passed.
USA Based Human Rights Organization Human Rights Watch published a 71 page report titled Rain of Fire, Israel’s Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and said that Israel's usage of the weapon was illegal.
' their use in densely populated neighborhoods, including downtown Gaza City, violated international humanitarian law (the laws of war), which requires taking all feasible precautions to avoid civilian harm and prohibits indiscriminate attacks.'
The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law but did find that the Israelis were "systematically reckless in determining its use in build-up areas". It also call for serious consideration to be given to the banning of its use as an obscurant.
As you seem to know so much about the international law and as you are so concerned about Israel allegedly using white phosphorous in build-up areas, maybe you present us the chapter in the international law which allows firing thousands of rockets on israeli cities and vilages!
@futuvancur1 For 1 thing no Hamas rockets fall on Israel, all fall on to Occupied Palestinian Territories, in which Israel has foolishly and against the laws of war have transferred Israeli civilians into occupied territory, thereby putting their own citizens into harms way, occupied territory is literally a war zone, hence the laws that forbid states to transfer vulnerable citizens into these areas of conflict, any deaths or injuries that come about are the responsibility of the Israeli state.
@idoIerner Goldstone is not the authority on establishing laws of armed conflict, WP is a battle field weapon, used as a smoke producing agent to conceal troop movement from enemy eyes, using WP "illegally" in an area of high density population is indeed a crime, as stated in the laws of armed conflict.
@MrBarryPe 'stop using that argument' - a poster claimed that it was a 'fact' that white phosphorous was not used in Gaza -
the Israeli military repeatedly denied using white phosphorus, saying "We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus", and "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus." It eventually admitted its use
@idoIerner Israeli denials, of the use of WP in built up high density population areas, are contrary to the documented, evidence, both written and video.
Every Israeli with conscience – we have to stop the government from removing solar panels and wind turbines south of Hebron. 2 Israelis Elad Orian and Noam Dotan installed the panels providing 1,500 Pales with electricity. Israel has threatened to remove them. 5 municipalities in recent weeks have received "stop work" orders -- the first step on the road to demolition. Thumbs up to STOP the removal of the solar panels. Write to Shimon Peres on facebook to stop this happening NOW.
Nice revisionist history. We all know this is not the case. Yehuda will judge you harshly in the afterlife. Simple as that. You know what you've done. So you have Americans fooled. Can't fool God.
This video is so wrong in so many ways. There would not BE a refugee problem in the first place if Zionist terrorist groups did not violently eject Palestinians from their homes and communities. There would not BE a refugee problem if Palestinians were granted their RIGHT OF RETURN. There would not BE a refugee problem if Palestinian land was not stolen in the first place. Stop with the false, misleading discourse and tell the TRUTH for once! For Fuck's Sake!
@uTor88 Read PMW, Arab site not Israeli.Arab Leaders are responsible for refugee problem by Palestinian Media Watch:The radio stations of the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: 'Get away from the battle lines.It's a matter of 10 days or 2weeks at the most, and we'll bring you back to Ein-Kerem [near Jerusalem].' And we said to ourselves, 'That's a very long time. What is this? Two weeks? That's a lot!' That's what we thought [then]. And now 50 years have gone by."[PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009]
@uTor88 In recent years, Palestinian leaders, writers and refugees have spoken out in the Palestinian media, blaming the Arab leadership for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Palestinian myth that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were deported by Israel in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was voluntary, and the result of orders by the Arab leadership. DON'T BELIEVE ONE-SIDED VIEWS-ALWAYS TWO SIDES
@allykat107 the massive expropriation of Palestinian lands for ever-expanding Israeli settlements; the construction of massive highways for control; confining Palestinians into dozens of cantons while imposing economic closure;' and, they continue, "demolishing thousands of Palestinian homes and committing other human rights violations.
@allykat107 in recent years they have invented the internet, which allows people to see that you cut & pasted your 'comment' direct from an israeli internet site whose sole purpose is to dispense hate speech against Palestinians, and there by divert attention from the occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem,' Israel has managed to conceal the matrix of control it has laid over the Occupied Territories,
bugsy8fuI yes I copied/pasted as it was a quote in an actual interview I provided the source - and I suppose you have never, ever copied from any source. Not much what you say is "yours" - except for the hate ofcourse, but too bad what you think. I have read your posts and am not too impressed. A little bit of peace from your hateful side would go a long way to solving this problem. OBTW stick to the subject of the site. You tend to side track the topic
@allykat107 "Deported" is vastly different from "violently ejected". And I stand by my beliefs, which are not one-sided, they are just RATIONAL. I refuse to believe any propaganda bullshit spewed from either side. This video simply does not acknowledge where the refugee problem originated, as most Zionist Israeli officials are in denial about their complicity in ethnic cleansing. Those who voluntarily left had no choice...stay and suffer, or leave and avoid humiliation.
@uTor88 "Those who voluntarily left had no choice...stay and suffer, or leave and avoid humiliation" Strange, then why do we find Arab Muslims in the Knesset, on the Supreme Court, in the lower courts, in the police forces, in the IDF all the way up the chain of command to General, etc? What's the difference between them and the others? oh yeah, they opted to be a part of the country, rather than Jew hatred. cry me a river.
Whilst your video does address the responsibility of Arab nations for not aiding the Palestinian refugees (which most sources number as 1,000,000 from 1947-48, by the way), I do feel your whole video is discredited by glossing over the fact that they were fleeing from massacres such as at Saliha, Deir Yassin,Lod,Dawayima, Abu Shusha,Tantura,Jaffa and in Operation Hiram at Safsaf,Saliha,Jish,Eilaboun,Arab al Muwasi,Deir al Asad, Majdal Krum,Sasa. Clearly a case of ethnic cleansing... .
I don't invent massacres to make the Israelis look like bad guys. They did that quite well themselves in these well documented events. Look it up, if you can read.
Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population, probably on orders of Ben Gurion.
Jewish leaders told them to stay in there homes? My god, that doesn't even deserve a response.
Zionist terrorist organizations targeted not only Arabs, but the British as well, such as the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946. That attack was carried out by the Irgun, whose leader, Menachem Begin, would later become prime minister of Israel.
and irgun and the jews have all renounced terror (and have consistently renounced it), no muslim terrorist groups have, not even the so-called "moderate" muslim brotherhood which considers hamas its militant wing.
should we compare the amount of terrorist attacks irgun perpetrated versus hamas or hizbollah etc?
epic fail for your non-point, your pathetic tu quoque fallacy.
no evidence of white phosphorous; terrorists used UN food depots to hide weapons and missiles hence they were targeted; cluster bombs were in retaliation to relentless palestinian bombing of jewish sovereign soil.
so as i said, and as you so aptly deflected, like all your ilk, the jews/irgun have renounced terror, NO MUSLIM GROUP HAS. that's a fact and you can't refute it.
We set the agreement's pillars, and Hamas agreed with us that resistance will be popular and adopt peaceful ways, rather than military resistance," the Palestinian president said. "The solution is the establishment of a state in the 1967 borders, and Hamas agreed to that, as well as to holding the elections on May 5, 2012."
"Yesterday, we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army," said Christopher Cobb-Smith, a weapons expert who is in Gaza as part of a four-person Amnesty International fact-finding team.
Amnesty International delegates visiting the Gaza Strip found indisputable evidence of widespread use of white phosphorus in densely populated residential areas in Gaza City and in the north.
@br0073012 right, the only proof you can offer is one tiny reference by amnesty international (itself no friend of Israel and hardly unbiased) from 2009 which has never been followed up by any other organisation...
Hamas hasn't renounced terror, they're still considered the militant wing of the muslim brotherhood, they still have in their charter the demand for the destruction of israel.
you're really bad at this but continue your anti-semitism disguised as anti-zionism and concern for pallys
@earlakanik youre funny - , bordering upon insane - How do you makwe the leap fromme providing proof that Israel used white phosphorous to being anti semitic - is it now anti semitic to provide evidence/ Does that mean the IDF soldiers and military personal who admitted on record they used white phosphorous in Gaza are also anti semitic?
Gee arsehole, it's a little early to pull out the anti Semitic card. By The Way, Palestinians are semites dummy
@bugsy8fuI@bugsy8fuI - "The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law"(Wikipedia, taken from, the Goldstone report). It did say that Israel used it recklessly, yet it is not illegal.
The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law but did find that the Israelis were "systematically reckless in determining its use in build-up areas". It also call for serious consideration to be given to the banning of its use as an obscurant.
USA Based Human Rights Organization Human Rights Watch published a 71 page report titled Rain of Fire, Israel’s Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and said that Israel's usage of the weapon was illegal.
' their use in densely populated neighborhoods, including downtown Gaza City, violated international humanitarian law (the laws of war), which requires taking all feasible precautions to avoid civilian harm and prohibits indiscriminate attacks.'
@MrBarryPe as for 'stop using that argument' - a poster claimed that it was a 'fact' that white phosphorous was not used in Gaza -
the Israeli military repeatedly denied using white phosphorus, saying "We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus", and "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus." It eventually admitted its use
@MrBarryPe What is illegal is the unlawful use of WP, it is unlawful to use WP over an area of high density population, Israel's use of WP in Operation Cast Lead was indeed an illegal use of WP, and as such a War Crime.
@earlakanik Amnesty was created by jewish people..and along with HRW and members of the IDF and newspapers all have confirmed that Israel used phosphorous - So basically you are an ignorant liar, aren't you..either to stupid to read my factual posts or to bigotted to take it in.
So, Arafat was a pedo and died of aids.. got any evidence or is that simply your racist hatred shining through
@earlakanik 'hamas hasn't renounced terror' - Except and lets be clear, i chowed you the actual statement where they did in fact renounce terror..which is of course more than you could do in regards to the Lehi & Stern gang, something that makes you dishonest and a liar.
As for their 'charter' - the 'hamas charter' has never ever been adopted by hamas, its still a work in progress, unlike the likud charter which is an extremist doctrine
and yes, as for the charter, you must be implying that hamas, being arabs and muslims, must be too retarded to, after ALL these years, work out and publish a charter correct? no, their "charter" is their charter and it is based on sharia thus it is already corrupt and inhumane by default.
@earlakanik cluster bombs were used extensively in Lebanon..mainly in areas children played in..
Now - 'thats a fact and you cant refute it'..Unless of course the evidence and the actual facts say other wise -
Evidence - do you know what that is? for instance there was no evidence that any one used UN food depots to store weapons, as you lied, sorry, claimed.
Also, At no time did the Irgun or Levi renounce terrorism,which is why they were outlawed, except former Lehi Terrorists were quickly forgiven and incorporated into the Likud.
If you must post your bile on here at least do some research and back up your comments with facts you silly moron
At no time did the Irgun or Levi renounce terrorism,which is why they were outlawed, except former Lehi Terrorists were quickly forgiven and incorporated into the Likud.
If you must post your bile on here at least do some research and back up your comments with facts you silly moron
@bugsy8fuI right, because we hear daily about suicide bombings from irgun and the terror and fear people in israel and surrounding countries live in because at any time an attack from irgun might be imminent.
if you must try to deflect facts (that muslims/arabs are largest perps of terror NOT jews) do some research and back up your comments with facts.
cluster bombs were used extensively in Lebanon..mainly in areas children played in..
Now - 'thats a fact and you cant refute it'..Unless of course the evidence and the actual facts say other wise -
Evidence - do you know what that is? for instance there was no evidence that any one used UN food depots to store weapons, as you lied, sorry, claimed.
Israel hit dozens of towns and villages with cluster munitions, causing long-term and large-scale disruption of the largely agricultural economy. Human Rights Watch research found that many of the attacks on populated areas did not appear to have had a specific military target.
Israel rained as many as 4.6 million submunitions across southern Lebanon in at least 962 separate strikes, the vast majority over the final three days of the war when Israel knew a settlement was imminent. The 4.6 million estimate is higher than previously reported by other sources. It is based on additional information provided to Human Rights Watch by soldiers who fired cluster munitions from Multiple Launch Rocket Systems.
they deserved it, they shouldn't have provoked israel by constant bombardments and the targeting of civilian areas and schools. hopefully next time israel will finish the job.
In addition, soldiers in IDF artillery units testified that the army used phosphorous shells during the war, widely forbidden by international law. According to their claims, the vast majority of said explosive ordinance was fired in the final 10 days of the war.
@earlakanik you- ' no evidence of white phosphorous"
Harretz -
IDF commander: We fired more than a million cluster bombs in Lebanon
Phosphorous and cluster bombs heavily used; unexploded munitions litter wide area of Lebanon.
"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.
@earlakanik you - no evidence of white phosphorous"
"Yesterday, we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army," said Christopher Cobb-Smith, a weapons expert who is in Gaza as part of a four-person Amnesty International fact-finding team.
@earlakanik you -' no evidence of white phosphorous"
Israel’s use of white phosphorus confirmed
20 January 2009
Amnesty International delegates visiting the Gaza Strip found indisputable evidence of widespread use of white phosphorus in densely populated residential areas in Gaza City and in the north.
@earlakanik you "no Muslim groups have renounced terror and thats a fact"
Abbas: Hamas agreed to renounce terror
Ynet News 12.17.11
We set the agreement's pillars, and Hamas agreed with us that resistance will be popular and adopt peaceful ways, rather than military resistance," the Palestinian president said. "The solution is the establishment of a state in the 1967 borders, and Hamas agreed to that, as well as to holding the elections on May 5, 2012."
"“Penetrating Israeli websites means opening a new field of resistance and the beginning of an electronic war against Israeli occupation,” Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri was quoted by Bloomberg as having said in a statement e-mailed to reporters in Gaza"
don't forget hamas has many terror proxies who do their dirty work for them.
@earlakanik you said "UN food depots to hide weapons and missiles hence they were targeted".
From the Washington Post: "The U.N. board called on Israel to publicly retract assertions that Palestinians had fired from within the premises of a U.N.-run school and a U.N. relief office. Israeli officials said they had already done so in their military inquiry.
Lt. Col. Falah elHeeb - First Sergeant Rad Swaad - IDF bedouin soldier and Muslim arab
First Sergeant Muhammad el-Waliodi - IDF bedouin soldier and Muslim arab
Eleanor Joseph, Arab Christian (Haifa), Karakal (IDF Elite Unit)
Since Israel independence, miles of bedouins, arabs, ethiopian jews, chinese jews, vietnamese live free and happy into Israel. Only LAZY PEOPLE WILL SWALLOW HATERS LIES.
RELITY: While many Jewish youngsters evade military service, 20-year-old Shirin Shlian (an israeli arab girl) of Galilee encourages high school students to join combat units.a
w w w. ynetnews. com/articles/0,7340,L-4175052,00.html
@elanainisrael Read Benny Morris, he is Israeli not Arab -(apparently that means something )
Benny Morris is the Israeli historian most responsible for the vindication of the Palestinian narrative of 1948. The lives of about 700,000 people were shattered as they were driven from their homes by the Jewish militia (and, later, the Israeli army) between December 1947 and early 1950.
@bugsy8fuI its relevant to point out that morris is an unapologetic Zionist ,and he argues "Sometimes ethnic cleansing is justified..Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians." so he might be a Zionist maggot ,but at least he is sometime capable of telling the truth of what Zionists did ,and the lengths they are willing to go to .
@bugsy8fuI the palestinians are an invented people, the former PLO leader admitted as much, as did the paedophile arafat who died of complications from HIV.
@elanainisrael Morris went through Israeli archives and wrote the day by day account of this expulsion, documenting every “ethnically cleansed” village and every recorded act of violence, and placing each in the context of the military goals and perceptions of the cleansers.
For example, after opening the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) archives, a cable was discovered dated October 31, 1948, signed by Major General Carmel and addressed to all the division and district commanders under his command. In that cable he stated, “Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered.
For example, after opening the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) archives, a cable was discovered dated October 31, 1948, signed by Major General Carmel and addressed to all the division and district commanders under his command. In that cable he stated, “Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered.”
Benny Morris is the Israeli historian most responsible for the vindication of the Palestinian narrative of 1948. The lives of about 700,000 people were shattered as they were driven from their homes by the Jewish militia (and, later, the Israeli army) between December 1947 and early 1950.
@elanainisrael Morris went through Israeli archives and wrote the day by day account of this expulsion, documenting every “ethnically cleansed” village and every recorded act of violence, and placing each in the context of the military goals and perceptions of the cleansers.
To be honest, although I am PRO ISRAEL ZIONIST PRO JEWISH JUDEA AND SAMARIA, to be honest. However to answer Minister Ayalon's question, "How could 500,000 arab refugees grow to 4,700,000?" I suppose the answer could be the same way that 160,000 arab Israelis could grow to 1,250,000. The fun part usually lasts about 20min then you have at least 18yrs hard work.
As soon as Palestine was recognized as a country in the UN it would be able to apply to the Justice International Court, in Den Hag, and we would know if this heap of lies a minister is able to say attached with xenophobic cartoons (hoho, how bad the arab guy with his moustache and the kalashnikov) are the heap of lies for children and racists we know they are or some else... Until now, even Israel attitude shows the result of that enquiry! Up with free Palestine! Stop ethnic cleanings!
I note that my provision of FACTS from MUSLIMS according blame for the Palestinian refugees to ARABS has passed without comment.
How about we return to the facts and STICK TO THE TOPIC? Q: What caused the Refugees? A: ARAB leaders.
I recommend all posters to go back to my comments posted earlier and see what the Arabs themselves had to say so much closer to the event. THEY blamed THEMSELVES!
Later PLO leaders and apologists twisted the truth as part of their campaign against Israel.
@MUDSHARK111 Is that all you've got? One little PATHETIC putdown? You wanna challenge me? You wanna try to deny the TRUTH that I have said? Go on. Let's see your scholarship. Let's see how clever you can be. Try to dis-prove the facts that I have provided.
Dis-prove FIRST. Don't swamp us with a whole lot of miserable accounts of this, that and the other. Just deal with what I have set forward FIRST.
If you can't dis-prove my claims - then I advise you SHUT THE FUCK UP!
@Countrygent100 Hafez Assad= a dictator who was openly hostile to Arafat and tried to kill him several times .he conducted operations against the Palestinian people and feared an independent Palestine sate .
Zuhair Muhsin, = an Arab nationalist who desired all Arab countrys to be one .so he doesn’t recognise any independent Arab country not just Palestine .so the man would deny all Arab people there identity except as arabs.
@Countrygent100 Haj Amin al-Husseini aka the grand mufti =an exiled British appointed nationalist who never enjoyed popular support and was never elected by any Arab being quoted in a Cairo paper in 1963 about something he allegedly said on may 15 1948 when 300.000 Palestinians had already been expelled ?
Emile Ghoury =a Christian Palestinian trying to guilt trip the Arab states into helping with the situation.
@Countrygent100 so lets recap you have quoted unelected arabs , dictators ,nationalists and people who it cannot be denied had there own agenda’s .and you think this is prof ?lol The myth of arab leader encouraging Palestinians to leave has been debunked not just by non Jewish historians but by jews and Jewish Israelis .in short your talking a load of out date Zionist bull shit, your quotes have no creditability neither does your argument. you are a joke .and as I said pathetic
@Countrygent100 "You wanna challenge me?" stop with the posturing, it might go down well where you come from but 50 year olds sticking there chest out is just fucking embarrassing .this is the internet, pissing contests are a wast of my time . you want to debate ?then lets .but im not indulging some clown old enough to know better trying to big him self up in his Midlife Crisis.
they did not "flee", they were forced out by the Zionist movement that STOLE their land!
I do not justify the Jewish expel from Arab countries but that shouldn't also justify the Palestinian refugees!
Also, the Arab citizens of Israel are FAR from having equal rights as the Jewish citizens. Trust me, I live there.
Jews were living in harmony among the Arab countries until the Zionists decided to kick the Palestinians out and turn it into a Jewish land. only then jews started getting expelled.
@soptamer I live here too. Arab Leaders are responsible for refugee problem: Palestinian Media Watch:The radio stations of the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: 'Get away from the battle lines. It's a matter of 10 days or 2weeks at the most, and we'll bring you back to Ein-Kerem [near Jerusalem].' And we said to ourselves, 'That's a very long time. What is this? Two weeks? That's a lot!' That's what we thought [then]. And now 50 years have gone by."[PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009
@soptamer In recent years, Palestinian leaders, writers and refugees have spoken out in the Palestinian media, blaming the Arab leadership for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Palestinian myth that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were deported by Israel in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was voluntary, and the result of orders by the Arab leadership. We can talk (you and I). We can make peace if we want
In recent years, Israeli leaders, writers and activists have spoken out in the Israeli media, blaming the Israeli leadership for the creation of the palestinians refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Israeli myth that palestine was unoccupied in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was forced, the result of terror and fighting. You can't make peace with out acknowledging the past
Israel viewed the refugees passed a law forbidding their return, assigning their lands to a custodian of absentee property, ignoring slight considerations, such as UN resolutions 181, 194, -Article 13(2) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 'Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country' and The Geneva Conventions of 1949
These displaced people and many of their descendents remain refugees to the present day.
@br0073012 It is true. Every side has its own view. But this does not make facts endlessly flexible. The refugee problem, and for that matter the whole conflict, could have been solved in a matter of months, technically. But the arab nations never wanted it to be past for good. Just look at Syria today. Any surprised?
@aklisny the refugee problem,as you put it could have been solved in a matter of days, simply by Israel abiding by the very resolution that created it, 181 and allowing the right of Palestinian refugees to return, or perhaps by abiding by resolution 194, allowing the palestinains refugees to allow the pals to return ( less than 10% of Palestinian refugees have indicated they would return ) The Palestinians are not the responsibility of any other states but Israel and Palestine
@bugsy8fuI Perhaps you would like to give some advice to the Jordanians who ANNEXED the WEST BANK in 1950? That's where it gets its name from, you know. Or what about the Egyptians who took over Gaza soon after 1948? I don't see you bleeding your heart for the Palestinians when ARABS steal what you think is their territory. What ARAB countries made ANY effort to set up a Palestinian state?
Your reading of history and distortion of UN Resolution decisions & responsibilities is abysmal.
@Cuntrygit, well shucks, thanks for your opinion.. however, like arseholes, everyone has an opinion, and while i used factual information, UN resolution 181 and UN resolution 194 that both state the palestinains right of return to their lands, you posted a nothing comment
I suggest you stick with your "clear understanding of Biblical history, the Jewish people & how the ancient prophecies tie in with modern day events." insanity -
Secondly, Oh fuck, here we go again. Some bleeding-heart for the Palestinians thinks all they have to do is bleat "UN Resolution this" and "UN Resolution that" as if those resolutions are totally one-sided and in favour of the Palestinians. The UN resolutions specifically call for negotiated peace and for defensible borders for all parties concerned.
Please do your full research and mind your manners.
one sided UN resolution? Well, gee wiz by golly, you sure is right there, that ol resolution 181 that Created Israel out of the Palestinian mandate sure was a one sided affair for them palestinians..yall got to wonder why they got so antsy about it .
Youre not smart are you son.., clearly - a resolution that created Israel provisional upon conditions thatIsrael is yet to meet is not one sided
@Countrygent100 Before 1948 there was no israel, then the one sided UN stepped in and created one..out of someone else's land - Shucks that surely is one sided..
BTW do you think the koran is bullshit? Whats the Koran? ? Why the Koran specifically ? what about the bible, the torah?
Thats right, you believe your cults book of myths, the bible, is actual history and you believe in biblical prophecy.. Please, do your research son..and piss off
De-Arabizing the history of Palestine is another crucial element of the ethnic cleansing. 1500 years of Arab and Muslim rule and culture in Palestine are trivialized, evidence of its existence is being destroyed and all this is done to make the absurd connection between the ancient Hebrew civilization and today's Israel
"Our position is based upon the belief that it is through cooperation based on mutual respect, rather that through boycotts or discrimination, that our common goals can be achieved."
60 years teaching their kids to hate; 60 years teaching murder and war to their kids?
They receive 3 times INTERNATIONAL AID! THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN to be SUICIDE BOMBERS, blame Israelis and receive WORLD AID. They suffer from
WORLD HIGHEST OBESITY rate. watch?v=N6MafdQcATQ – The Seeds of Hatred and open your eyes.These children will grow up as dysfunctional adults, will revolt against the parents demanding back their lost childhood.
REALITY: Muslims read "The Injil (Arabic: إنجيل ʾInǧīl) is the Arabic name for the original Gospel of Jesus, and one of the four Islamic Holy Books the Qur'an records as revealed by God" THEY THINK THE WORDS of the MOST FAMOUS JEW OF THIS WORLD (Jesus) WAS INSPIRED BY GOD :D
Source:
Muhammad in world scriptures Abdul Haque Vidyarthi - 1997
@ThePeopleOnline>by presenting you with truth? No by making wild ass claims while pretending arab muslims dont engage in terrorism.
>when i prove that
Correction - when you CLAIM that. Referring people to a google search isnt proof of anything.
>isnt it in ur holy books
Speaking about assumptions. Why is it that muslims assume everyone that doesnt support the terrorism and genocidal aspirations of palestinians is a jewish zionist?
I think you are playing this card too. You use the Golan canion as a buffer with the Arab world and you use the Palestinian Arabs as cannon fodder. Arabs do this too. You both suck. Encourage your people back to Salonica, Ioannina, Warsaw, South Spain. This would alleviate some problems and help financially all communities. Respect from Greece, but...
Why should they? Israel is their home country where tehy were born. They only want to live in their own borders and have always offered peac to the Arabs - but the Arabs have always refused any peace proposal. It's not Israel's fault that this conflict is stil unsettled.
These were TNT for construction and Anti-bird missiles.
You see they plan on building a new airport in Gaza and they needed the TNT to get rid of any annoying rocks. The missiles are to keep birds away from the future commercial planes. Overkill, yes, but one can never be too careful! :D
MYTH: arab 'palestinians' are being starved by 'siege'.
REALITY: The prevalence of obesity was 36.8 and 18.1% in rural women and men, respectively, compared with 49.1 and 30.6% in urban women and men, respectively.
Source: Institute of Community and Public Health, Birzeit University, West Bank, Palestinian Authority. hhalabi@birzeit.edu
@idevai...judaism doesn't recognize jesus. He may have been jewish but judaism as a religion doesn't recognize him. Judaism came about way before christianity. So if anythng islam is more closely related to christianity.
Not to be trusted: Br0... banned for hate/fear mongering. Interesting hmmmm. Do I still need to provide evidence of slander, hate or incitement. His record speaks for itself. Oh, dear me... maybe he will have to change his name and number once again: br007306 account br007308 account br007307 account br007309 account br07315 account br07311 acount BANNED ALL OF THEM. Would you buy a used car from this man?
Migron is built entirely on land that Israel recognizes as privately-owned by Palestinians. Its establishment and expansion over the past decade epitomizes the corruption that is endemic in Israel's rule in the West Bank, since neither could have taken place without Israeli government officials aiding and abetting settlers' law-breaking.
Outposts are settlements that have been built in the West Bank without Israeli government authorization, in violation of law. Migron is the flagship of the settlers' illegal outpost enterprise - one of the largest and most developed outposts and the shining symbol of the settlers' determination to overcome the Israeli government's longstanding policy against establishing new settlements.
Migron is an open-and-shut case of theft, the physical embodiment of the settlers' contempt for Israeli law.
New settlements are being approved all the time, in East Jerusalem, Gush Etzion, Efrat, Ma'ale Adumim etc.
Of course Israel will say this is simply expanding existing settlements, but if you are a Palestinian whose land has just been confiscated, this is a meaningless distinction.
The only reasons why the Israel government appears to want to abandon Migron to its fate is (a) because it is not defensible as an 'outpost' and (b) so as not to deflect it from its ambition to keep in perpetuity the 60% of the West Bank which it occupies under the Orwellian label of 'Area C'.
League of Nations early recognition of Israel as national homeland for Jews In 1922 League of Nations Palestine Mandate recognized the land of Israel as the national home of the Jewish people, citing “the historic connection of the Jewish people with 'Palestine'.” The Mandate called for “the establishment in 'Palestine' of a national home for the Jewish people,” and thus Jerusalem is a site of pilgrimage for the whole Jewish nation
These were TNT for construction and Anti-bird missiles.
You see they plan on building a new airport in Gaza and they needed the TNT to get rid of any annoying rocks. The missiles are to keep birds away from the future commercial planes. Overkill, yes, but one can never be too careful! :D
IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR LITTLE BOYS like SUICIDE BOMBERS?
IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR GIRLS like SUICIDE BOMBERS?
IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR mentally retarded fragile kids like SUICIDE BOMBERS like you did with Hussam Abdo, a mentally challenged boy!?
You must have a STONE HEART to try to justify the murder of families in Syria. You will let syrian children candle's light turns off only because it does not fits your political agenda?
In Homs, "559 people had been killed since the government offensive began, including 43 children and 16 women."
Terror sponsored by
The official sponsor of Hamas™ and Hisbullah™ political (terror!) orgs's, Butcher's Bashar Assad Regime™: SINCE 1982 MASSACRING SYRIAN CHILDREN AND WOMEN. Why there aren't massive world protests in the whole world? Are you BLIND? Or it's just HYPOCRISY? (the name of Syrians children killed)
w w w. syrianshuhada. com/Default.asp?a=la&p=&v=&s=c&sb=Age
What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching hate to their kids?
What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching murder to their kids?
What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching war to their boys?
Oh, wait!!! They are receiving 3 times + INTERNATIONAL AID! Thats it! They don't like to work, so, THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN LIKE SUICIDE BOMBERS, blame israelis and receive + WORLD AID. Why they should work? Not needed. Wow, thats it the formula to WORLD HIGHEST OBESITY of Gazans!!!
The Ghantawi family, including a girl of 15 and two boys aged seven and five, lived near al-Firdaos square in the city. The al-Tirkawi family, with seven members, and the al-Zamal family, with eight members, both lived in the al-Nazirheen area of Homs. In total, the three incidents claimed 20 lives.
Terror sponsored by
Butcher's Bashar Assad Regime™, official sponsor of Hamas™ and Hisbullah™ political (terror!) ORG's.
"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat .
"The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees." Jordanian newspaper Falastin, Feb. 19, 1949.
Check how arab 'pales' are living in Lebanon, Syria and other places where, in spite of they are arabs too, they have many civil rights DENIED. Why if they are living with brothers?
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
Israel is forced to do nuisances to some arabs 'pales' for self-defense. Human rights are respected in Israel is much better than in most Arab countries. Why no one cares about the fate of arab 'pales' refugees in the Arab countries? Why the murder of thousands of Arabs in the revolutions concern people less than than the roadblocks in the Judea and Samaria (waste bank)?
Let’s further consider the threats and blackmail used to control world governments and maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy decisions of other nations, most notably the US. “To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid" US aid currently is closer to $10 billion annually when all is counted!
@br0073012 wow, amazing. didn't knew Israel received that kind of aid from USA =). Thanks for letting me know. Now I love more yet USA <3 God bless America =)
@br0073012 You r trying to show the world that JEWS ARE VERY SMART religion, people and nation. If, being ONLY 13 million religious group, if it's really that WE control everything as you said, it is 1 good proof God elected us. If being ONLY 13 million jews (almost the actual population of Sao Paulo City-Brasil) and we maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy of other nations as you said, that is another GOOD PROOF God elected us. I LOVED when you wrote that. tnx:)
Let’s look at this “understanding” from an Auschwitz survivor!
watch?v=cSlFR541Uoo
Let’s also consider the Israeli nuclear forces and Israel’s demonstrated history of attacking civilian targets using indiscriminate and banned weapons.
From September 2000 through 2003, 2,603 Palestinians were killed by Israeli militants in the occupied territories
Zionist haters USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
Zionist haters USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
Failure to acknowledge the basic injustice that forcibly established a state based upon religion to an religious group who had not had a majority in that region for over two thousand years was bound to lead to war.
The region will continue to be at war whilst Jewish nationalist ideology is championed as opposed to acknowledging past injustices and basing statehood on it’s citizens.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
The Israeli Settler movement has continued growing and expanding throughout the last few decades in spite of the international condemnation it has accrued for Israel, and regardless of which political party holds sway in Tel Aviv.
That is to say that settlement building on the land occupied in 1967 is the policy of Israel.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
Settlers and settlements compose one of the most difficult challenges to peace. Those who self-identify as settlers are ideologically committed to staying on their land regardless of what their government or military think.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
Even those in Israel who now loudly call for a swift two-state solution, for fear that it will soon become impossible, have done little or nothing to stop the expansion of settlements - even during the on-going Annapolis Peace Process.
Haters/Zionists USE children than try to look like they care about Israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
@idevai Let’s further consider the threats and blackmail used to control world governments and maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy decisions of other nations, most notably the US. “To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid" US aid currently is closer to $10 billion annually when all is counted!
Let’s look at this “understanding” from an Auschwitz survivor!
watch?v=cSlFR541Uoo
Let’s also consider the Israeli nuclear forces and Israel’s demonstrated history of attacking civilian targets using indiscriminate and banned weapons.
"Most European capitals are targets for our (Israeli) air force....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under”. When the world learns the full madness of Israeli policy and arrogance there will be demands for a nuclear-free ME including Israel! The phony narrative that Iran is the nuclear threat fades into insignificance compared to this reality"
Settlers and settlements compose one of the most difficult challenges to peace. Those who self-identify as settlers are ideologically committed to staying on their land regardless of what their government or military think.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
The Israeli Settler movement has continued growing and expanding throughout the last few decades in spite of the international condemnation it has accrued for Israel, and regardless of which political party holds sway in Tel Aviv.
That is to say that settlement building on the land occupied in 1967 is the policy of Israel.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
HA HA lol "Please house our Muslim enemies " Because the European Jewish "Crusaders want to keep there land and build walls and road blocks everywhere Israel seem,s like a exclusive church,
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invaliduser1000 2 hours ago
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In order to address the question of Right of Return for Palestine refugees, please bear in mind Israel’s actual accepted & Internationally “acknowledged” and recognized boundaries Sovereign territories of Res 181, do not include territory illegally acquired by force/war or non annexed and illegally annexed territories since Israel’s declaration of Sovereignty.
odogg1946 3 hours ago
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There is no legal OR logical basis for Israel’s demand that RoR be tied to a peace agreement. The reason there is no legal basis is because it just doesn’t make sense. RoR is an individuals right to decide to return or accept compensation, be they Jewish, Arab, Inuit. In order to return, they must, as individuals agree to live in peace INSIDE the country of return, as citizens of the country of return.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
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A peace agreement however, is with a neighbouring entity to live ALONGSIDE in reciprocal peace, with it’s citizens, WHO HAVE NOT returned can happen in peace or war. Which is precisely why resolutions and law advocate ‘refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date’, it does not depend on a peace agreement between entities.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
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All civilians have a right to flee violence, no matter who starts a war or who tells them to flee or for what reason, because they are A) CIVILIANS. B) They might not have voted for, or even been able to vote for, the regime in power when hostilities began. All civilians fleeing from an area of conflict have a right to return, when the danger has passed.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
he is telling the the truth i think....
jk7350 13 hours ago
@jk7350 well, thats absolutely the truth....arabs are the trouble makers
lordon18 2 hours ago
@MrBarryPe
USA Based Human Rights Organization Human Rights Watch published a 71 page report titled Rain of Fire, Israel’s Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and said that Israel's usage of the weapon was illegal.
' their use in densely populated neighborhoods, including downtown Gaza City, violated international humanitarian law (the laws of war), which requires taking all feasible precautions to avoid civilian harm and prohibits indiscriminate attacks.'
idoIerner 4 days ago
@MrBarryPe Gee, is that what they said?
The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law but did find that the Israelis were "systematically reckless in determining its use in build-up areas". It also call for serious consideration to be given to the banning of its use as an obscurant.
idoIerner 4 days ago
@idoIerner , flumoxed2,
As you seem to know so much about the international law and as you are so concerned about Israel allegedly using white phosphorous in build-up areas, maybe you present us the chapter in the international law which allows firing thousands of rockets on israeli cities and vilages!
futuvancur1 2 days ago 2
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@futuvancur1 For 1 thing no Hamas rockets fall on Israel, all fall on to Occupied Palestinian Territories, in which Israel has foolishly and against the laws of war have transferred Israeli civilians into occupied territory, thereby putting their own citizens into harms way, occupied territory is literally a war zone, hence the laws that forbid states to transfer vulnerable citizens into these areas of conflict, any deaths or injuries that come about are the responsibility of the Israeli state.
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@idoIerner Goldstone is not the authority on establishing laws of armed conflict, WP is a battle field weapon, used as a smoke producing agent to conceal troop movement from enemy eyes, using WP "illegally" in an area of high density population is indeed a crime, as stated in the laws of armed conflict.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
@MrBarryPe 'stop using that argument' - a poster claimed that it was a 'fact' that white phosphorous was not used in Gaza -
the Israeli military repeatedly denied using white phosphorus, saying "We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus", and "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus." It eventually admitted its use
idoIerner 4 days ago
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@idoIerner Israeli denials, of the use of WP in built up high density population areas, are contrary to the documented, evidence, both written and video.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
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Every Israeli with conscience – we have to stop the government from removing solar panels and wind turbines south of Hebron. 2 Israelis Elad Orian and Noam Dotan installed the panels providing 1,500 Pales with electricity. Israel has threatened to remove them. 5 municipalities in recent weeks have received "stop work" orders -- the first step on the road to demolition. Thumbs up to STOP the removal of the solar panels. Write to Shimon Peres on facebook to stop this happening NOW.
elanainisrael 4 days ago
Makes sense to me...
askdhuwuw 4 days ago
Nice revisionist history. We all know this is not the case. Yehuda will judge you harshly in the afterlife. Simple as that. You know what you've done. So you have Americans fooled. Can't fool God.
wafdawg 5 days ago
@wafdawg you cant fool god - no but believing there is a god sure has you fooled
bugsy8fuI 5 days ago
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@earlakanik like a pig, enjoy wallowing in your filth of ignorance
Lol, youre an idiot
br0073012 6 days ago
This video is so wrong in so many ways. There would not BE a refugee problem in the first place if Zionist terrorist groups did not violently eject Palestinians from their homes and communities. There would not BE a refugee problem if Palestinians were granted their RIGHT OF RETURN. There would not BE a refugee problem if Palestinian land was not stolen in the first place. Stop with the false, misleading discourse and tell the TRUTH for once! For Fuck's Sake!
uTor88 6 days ago
@uTor88 Read PMW, Arab site not Israeli.Arab Leaders are responsible for refugee problem by Palestinian Media Watch:The radio stations of the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: 'Get away from the battle lines.It's a matter of 10 days or 2weeks at the most, and we'll bring you back to Ein-Kerem [near Jerusalem].' And we said to ourselves, 'That's a very long time. What is this? Two weeks? That's a lot!' That's what we thought [then]. And now 50 years have gone by."[PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009]
allykat107 6 days ago
@uTor88 In recent years, Palestinian leaders, writers and refugees have spoken out in the Palestinian media, blaming the Arab leadership for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Palestinian myth that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were deported by Israel in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was voluntary, and the result of orders by the Arab leadership. DON'T BELIEVE ONE-SIDED VIEWS-ALWAYS TWO SIDES
allykat107 6 days ago
@allykat107 the massive expropriation of Palestinian lands for ever-expanding Israeli settlements; the construction of massive highways for control; confining Palestinians into dozens of cantons while imposing economic closure;' and, they continue, "demolishing thousands of Palestinian homes and committing other human rights violations.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@allykat107 in recent years they have invented the internet, which allows people to see that you cut & pasted your 'comment' direct from an israeli internet site whose sole purpose is to dispense hate speech against Palestinians, and there by divert attention from the occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem,' Israel has managed to conceal the matrix of control it has laid over the Occupied Territories,
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
bugsy8fuI yes I copied/pasted as it was a quote in an actual interview I provided the source - and I suppose you have never, ever copied from any source. Not much what you say is "yours" - except for the hate ofcourse, but too bad what you think. I have read your posts and am not too impressed. A little bit of peace from your hateful side would go a long way to solving this problem. OBTW stick to the subject of the site. You tend to side track the topic
allykat107 5 days ago
@allykat107 "Deported" is vastly different from "violently ejected". And I stand by my beliefs, which are not one-sided, they are just RATIONAL. I refuse to believe any propaganda bullshit spewed from either side. This video simply does not acknowledge where the refugee problem originated, as most Zionist Israeli officials are in denial about their complicity in ethnic cleansing. Those who voluntarily left had no choice...stay and suffer, or leave and avoid humiliation.
uTor88 2 days ago
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@uTor88 "Those who voluntarily left had no choice...stay and suffer, or leave and avoid humiliation" Strange, then why do we find Arab Muslims in the Knesset, on the Supreme Court, in the lower courts, in the police forces, in the IDF all the way up the chain of command to General, etc? What's the difference between them and the others? oh yeah, they opted to be a part of the country, rather than Jew hatred. cry me a river.
BillKiernan 1 day ago
@uTor88 Then why did some Arabs stayed and are not suffering now?
Pseudologic 23 hours ago
Whilst your video does address the responsibility of Arab nations for not aiding the Palestinian refugees (which most sources number as 1,000,000 from 1947-48, by the way), I do feel your whole video is discredited by glossing over the fact that they were fleeing from massacres such as at Saliha, Deir Yassin,Lod,Dawayima, Abu Shusha,Tantura,Jaffa and in Operation Hiram at Safsaf,Saliha,Jish,Eilaboun,Arab al Muwasi,Deir al Asad, Majdal Krum,Sasa. Clearly a case of ethnic cleansing... .
grahammichaelburns 6 days ago
@grahammichaelburns you dont know if there was massacres so stop invent BS
so you can make israel the bad guy
you say israel was the bad guys in 1947 i can say they are liars that did not listend
to the jewish leaders that told them to stay in thier homes
and they cold not come back after the war will end (unlike other wars that happend in the regon) sorry for shity grammer
dor780 6 days ago
@dor780
I don't invent massacres to make the Israelis look like bad guys. They did that quite well themselves in these well documented events. Look it up, if you can read.
Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population, probably on orders of Ben Gurion.
Jewish leaders told them to stay in there homes? My god, that doesn't even deserve a response.
grahammichaelburns 6 days ago
Zionist terrorist organizations targeted not only Arabs, but the British as well, such as the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946. That attack was carried out by the Irgun, whose leader, Menachem Begin, would later become prime minister of Israel.
br0073012 1 week ago
@br0073012
and irgun and the jews have all renounced terror (and have consistently renounced it), no muslim terrorist groups have, not even the so-called "moderate" muslim brotherhood which considers hamas its militant wing.
should we compare the amount of terrorist attacks irgun perpetrated versus hamas or hizbollah etc?
epic fail for your non-point, your pathetic tu quoque fallacy.
earlakanik 1 week ago
@earlakanik Jews have renounced terror??? Illegal white phosphorous, bombing of UN food depots,and cluster bombs that maim for years anyone?
grahammichaelburns 6 days ago
@grahammichaelburns
no evidence of white phosphorous; terrorists used UN food depots to hide weapons and missiles hence they were targeted; cluster bombs were in retaliation to relentless palestinian bombing of jewish sovereign soil.
so as i said, and as you so aptly deflected, like all your ilk, the jews/irgun have renounced terror, NO MUSLIM GROUP HAS. that's a fact and you can't refute it.
earlakanik 6 days ago
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@earlakanik
Ynet News
Abbas: Hamas agreed to renounce terror
12.17.11
We set the agreement's pillars, and Hamas agreed with us that resistance will be popular and adopt peaceful ways, rather than military resistance," the Palestinian president said. "The solution is the establishment of a state in the 1967 borders, and Hamas agreed to that, as well as to holding the elections on May 5, 2012."
br0073012 6 days ago
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@earlakanik
"Yesterday, we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army," said Christopher Cobb-Smith, a weapons expert who is in Gaza as part of a four-person Amnesty International fact-finding team.
br0073012 6 days ago
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@earlakanik
'no evidence of white phosphorous"
Israel’s use of white phosphorus confirmed
20 January 2009
Amnesty International delegates visiting the Gaza Strip found indisputable evidence of widespread use of white phosphorus in densely populated residential areas in Gaza City and in the north.
br0073012 6 days ago
@br0073012 right, the only proof you can offer is one tiny reference by amnesty international (itself no friend of Israel and hardly unbiased) from 2009 which has never been followed up by any other organisation...
Hamas hasn't renounced terror, they're still considered the militant wing of the muslim brotherhood, they still have in their charter the demand for the destruction of israel.
you're really bad at this but continue your anti-semitism disguised as anti-zionism and concern for pallys
earlakanik 5 days ago
@earlakanik youre funny - , bordering upon insane - How do you makwe the leap fromme providing proof that Israel used white phosphorous to being anti semitic - is it now anti semitic to provide evidence/ Does that mean the IDF soldiers and military personal who admitted on record they used white phosphorous in Gaza are also anti semitic?
Gee arsehole, it's a little early to pull out the anti Semitic card. By The Way, Palestinians are semites dummy
bugsy8fuI 5 days ago
@bugsy8fuI @bugsy8fuI - "The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law"(Wikipedia, taken from, the Goldstone report). It did say that Israel used it recklessly, yet it is not illegal.
So stop using that argument.
MrBarryPe 4 days ago
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@MrBarryPe Gee, is that what they said?
The Goldstone report accepted that white phosphorus is not illegal under international law but did find that the Israelis were "systematically reckless in determining its use in build-up areas". It also call for serious consideration to be given to the banning of its use as an obscurant.
bugsy8fuI 4 days ago
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@MrBarryPe
USA Based Human Rights Organization Human Rights Watch published a 71 page report titled Rain of Fire, Israel’s Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and said that Israel's usage of the weapon was illegal.
' their use in densely populated neighborhoods, including downtown Gaza City, violated international humanitarian law (the laws of war), which requires taking all feasible precautions to avoid civilian harm and prohibits indiscriminate attacks.'
bugsy8fuI 4 days ago
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@MrBarryPe as for 'stop using that argument' - a poster claimed that it was a 'fact' that white phosphorous was not used in Gaza -
the Israeli military repeatedly denied using white phosphorus, saying "We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus", and "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus." It eventually admitted its use
bugsy8fuI 4 days ago
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@MrBarryPe What is illegal is the unlawful use of WP, it is unlawful to use WP over an area of high density population, Israel's use of WP in Operation Cast Lead was indeed an illegal use of WP, and as such a War Crime.
odogg1946 4 hours ago
@earlakanik Amnesty was created by jewish people..and along with HRW and members of the IDF and newspapers all have confirmed that Israel used phosphorous - So basically you are an ignorant liar, aren't you..either to stupid to read my factual posts or to bigotted to take it in.
So, Arafat was a pedo and died of aids.. got any evidence or is that simply your racist hatred shining through
bugsy8fuI 5 days ago
@earlakanik 'hamas hasn't renounced terror' - Except and lets be clear, i chowed you the actual statement where they did in fact renounce terror..which is of course more than you could do in regards to the Lehi & Stern gang, something that makes you dishonest and a liar.
As for their 'charter' - the 'hamas charter' has never ever been adopted by hamas, its still a work in progress, unlike the likud charter which is an extremist doctrine
bugsy8fuI 5 days ago
@bugsy8fuI your full of crap man, crapman.
askdhuwuw 4 days ago
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@bugsy8fuI
and yes, as for the charter, you must be implying that hamas, being arabs and muslims, must be too retarded to, after ALL these years, work out and publish a charter correct? no, their "charter" is their charter and it is based on sharia thus it is already corrupt and inhumane by default.
earlakanik 3 days ago
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@earlakanik cluster bombs were used extensively in Lebanon..mainly in areas children played in..
Now - 'thats a fact and you cant refute it'..Unless of course the evidence and the actual facts say other wise -
Evidence - do you know what that is? for instance there was no evidence that any one used UN food depots to store weapons, as you lied, sorry, claimed.
br0073012 6 days ago
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@earlakanik
Also, At no time did the Irgun or Levi renounce terrorism,which is why they were outlawed, except former Lehi Terrorists were quickly forgiven and incorporated into the Likud.
If you must post your bile on here at least do some research and back up your comments with facts you silly moron
br0073012 6 days ago
@earlakanik
At no time did the Irgun or Levi renounce terrorism,which is why they were outlawed, except former Lehi Terrorists were quickly forgiven and incorporated into the Likud.
If you must post your bile on here at least do some research and back up your comments with facts you silly moron
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@bugsy8fuI right, because we hear daily about suicide bombings from irgun and the terror and fear people in israel and surrounding countries live in because at any time an attack from irgun might be imminent.
if you must try to deflect facts (that muslims/arabs are largest perps of terror NOT jews) do some research and back up your comments with facts.
earlakanik 5 days ago
@earlakanik
cluster bombs were used extensively in Lebanon..mainly in areas children played in..
Now - 'thats a fact and you cant refute it'..Unless of course the evidence and the actual facts say other wise -
Evidence - do you know what that is? for instance there was no evidence that any one used UN food depots to store weapons, as you lied, sorry, claimed.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@earlakanik
Israel hit dozens of towns and villages with cluster munitions, causing long-term and large-scale disruption of the largely agricultural economy. Human Rights Watch research found that many of the attacks on populated areas did not appear to have had a specific military target.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@earlakanik
Israel rained as many as 4.6 million submunitions across southern Lebanon in at least 962 separate strikes, the vast majority over the final three days of the war when Israel knew a settlement was imminent. The 4.6 million estimate is higher than previously reported by other sources. It is based on additional information provided to Human Rights Watch by soldiers who fired cluster munitions from Multiple Launch Rocket Systems.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@bugsy8fuI
they deserved it, they shouldn't have provoked israel by constant bombardments and the targeting of civilian areas and schools. hopefully next time israel will finish the job.
earlakanik 5 days ago
@earlakanik
In addition, soldiers in IDF artillery units testified that the army used phosphorous shells during the war, widely forbidden by international law. According to their claims, the vast majority of said explosive ordinance was fired in the final 10 days of the war.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@earlakanik you- ' no evidence of white phosphorous"
Harretz -
IDF commander: We fired more than a million cluster bombs in Lebanon
Phosphorous and cluster bombs heavily used; unexploded munitions litter wide area of Lebanon.
"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@earlakanik you - no evidence of white phosphorous"
"Yesterday, we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army," said Christopher Cobb-Smith, a weapons expert who is in Gaza as part of a four-person Amnesty International fact-finding team.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@earlakanik you -' no evidence of white phosphorous"
Israel’s use of white phosphorus confirmed
20 January 2009
Amnesty International delegates visiting the Gaza Strip found indisputable evidence of widespread use of white phosphorus in densely populated residential areas in Gaza City and in the north.
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
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@earlakanik you "no Muslim groups have renounced terror and thats a fact"
Abbas: Hamas agreed to renounce terror
Ynet News 12.17.11
We set the agreement's pillars, and Hamas agreed with us that resistance will be popular and adopt peaceful ways, rather than military resistance," the Palestinian president said. "The solution is the establishment of a state in the 1967 borders, and Hamas agreed to that, as well as to holding the elections on May 5, 2012."
bugsy8fuI 6 days ago
@bugsy8fuI First Publish: 1/16/2012, 6:13 AM
Hamas Calls for More Hacking Against Israel
"“Penetrating Israeli websites means opening a new field of resistance and the beginning of an electronic war against Israeli occupation,” Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri was quoted by Bloomberg as having said in a statement e-mailed to reporters in Gaza"
don't forget hamas has many terror proxies who do their dirty work for them.
earlakanik 5 days ago
@earlakanik you said "UN food depots to hide weapons and missiles hence they were targeted".
From the Washington Post: "The U.N. board called on Israel to publicly retract assertions that Palestinians had fired from within the premises of a U.N.-run school and a U.N. relief office. Israeli officials said they had already done so in their military inquiry.
grahammichaelburns 5 days ago
@earlakanik "no evidence of white phpsphorous" you say.
Try this, it even has a graphic picture in case you are unable to read anything non-biased.
Just google guardian israel white phosphorus gaza
It won't let me post the link.
Israel doesn't need active "terrorist" organisations when the state itself rains terror from the air.
grahammichaelburns 5 days ago
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somehow you forget the fact that the Palestinian tried to kill all jews in israel at 48.
but who cares about facts right?a
idevai 1 week ago 2
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MYTH: Israel is an 'apartheid' state
REALITY:
Lt. Col. Falah elHeeb - First Sergeant Rad Swaad - IDF bedouin soldier and Muslim arab
First Sergeant Muhammad el-Waliodi - IDF bedouin soldier and Muslim arab
Eleanor Joseph, Arab Christian (Haifa), Karakal (IDF Elite Unit)
Since Israel independence, miles of bedouins, arabs, ethiopian jews, chinese jews, vietnamese live free and happy into Israel. Only LAZY PEOPLE WILL SWALLOW HATERS LIES.
watch?v=SrubbQqHdwk
idevai 1 week ago
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MYTH: Israel is an 'apartheid' state
RELITY: While many Jewish youngsters evade military service, 20-year-old Shirin Shlian (an israeli arab girl) of Galilee encourages high school students to join combat units.a
w w w. ynetnews. com/articles/0,7340,L-4175052,00.html
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typical Jewish scum trying to make others look bad for the land the Jews steal.
JolnirWodanaz 1 week ago
@elanainisrael Read Benny Morris, he is Israeli not Arab -(apparently that means something )
Benny Morris is the Israeli historian most responsible for the vindication of the Palestinian narrative of 1948. The lives of about 700,000 people were shattered as they were driven from their homes by the Jewish militia (and, later, the Israeli army) between December 1947 and early 1950.
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
@bugsy8fuI its relevant to point out that morris is an unapologetic Zionist ,and he argues "Sometimes ethnic cleansing is justified..Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians." so he might be a Zionist maggot ,but at least he is sometime capable of telling the truth of what Zionists did ,and the lengths they are willing to go to .
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
@bugsy8fuI the palestinians are an invented people, the former PLO leader admitted as much, as did the paedophile arafat who died of complications from HIV.
earlakanik 5 days ago
@elanainisrael Morris went through Israeli archives and wrote the day by day account of this expulsion, documenting every “ethnically cleansed” village and every recorded act of violence, and placing each in the context of the military goals and perceptions of the cleansers.
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
@elanainisrael
For example, after opening the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) archives, a cable was discovered dated October 31, 1948, signed by Major General Carmel and addressed to all the division and district commanders under his command. In that cable he stated, “Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered.
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@elanainisrael
For example, after opening the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) archives, a cable was discovered dated October 31, 1948, signed by Major General Carmel and addressed to all the division and district commanders under his command. In that cable he stated, “Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered.”
idoIerner 1 week ago
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@elanainisrael Read Benny Morris, Israeli not Arab -
Benny Morris is the Israeli historian most responsible for the vindication of the Palestinian narrative of 1948. The lives of about 700,000 people were shattered as they were driven from their homes by the Jewish militia (and, later, the Israeli army) between December 1947 and early 1950.
idoIerner 1 week ago
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@elanainisrael Morris went through Israeli archives and wrote the day by day account of this expulsion, documenting every “ethnically cleansed” village and every recorded act of violence, and placing each in the context of the military goals and perceptions of the cleansers.
idoIerner 1 week ago
To be honest, although I am PRO ISRAEL ZIONIST PRO JEWISH JUDEA AND SAMARIA, to be honest. However to answer Minister Ayalon's question, "How could 500,000 arab refugees grow to 4,700,000?" I suppose the answer could be the same way that 160,000 arab Israelis could grow to 1,250,000. The fun part usually lasts about 20min then you have at least 18yrs hard work.
bikesaver 1 week ago
As soon as Palestine was recognized as a country in the UN it would be able to apply to the Justice International Court, in Den Hag, and we would know if this heap of lies a minister is able to say attached with xenophobic cartoons (hoho, how bad the arab guy with his moustache and the kalashnikov) are the heap of lies for children and racists we know they are or some else... Until now, even Israel attitude shows the result of that enquiry! Up with free Palestine! Stop ethnic cleanings!
sindibadx 1 week ago
I note that my provision of FACTS from MUSLIMS according blame for the Palestinian refugees to ARABS has passed without comment.
How about we return to the facts and STICK TO THE TOPIC? Q: What caused the Refugees? A: ARAB leaders.
I recommend all posters to go back to my comments posted earlier and see what the Arabs themselves had to say so much closer to the event. THEY blamed THEMSELVES!
Later PLO leaders and apologists twisted the truth as part of their campaign against Israel.
Countrygent100 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 lol pathetic .
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
@MUDSHARK111 Is that all you've got? One little PATHETIC putdown? You wanna challenge me? You wanna try to deny the TRUTH that I have said? Go on. Let's see your scholarship. Let's see how clever you can be. Try to dis-prove the facts that I have provided.
Dis-prove FIRST. Don't swamp us with a whole lot of miserable accounts of this, that and the other. Just deal with what I have set forward FIRST.
If you can't dis-prove my claims - then I advise you SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Countrygent100 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 Hafez Assad= a dictator who was openly hostile to Arafat and tried to kill him several times .he conducted operations against the Palestinian people and feared an independent Palestine sate .
Zuhair Muhsin, = an Arab nationalist who desired all Arab countrys to be one .so he doesn’t recognise any independent Arab country not just Palestine .so the man would deny all Arab people there identity except as arabs.
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 Haj Amin al-Husseini aka the grand mufti =an exiled British appointed nationalist who never enjoyed popular support and was never elected by any Arab being quoted in a Cairo paper in 1963 about something he allegedly said on may 15 1948 when 300.000 Palestinians had already been expelled ?
Emile Ghoury =a Christian Palestinian trying to guilt trip the Arab states into helping with the situation.
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 so lets recap you have quoted unelected arabs , dictators ,nationalists and people who it cannot be denied had there own agenda’s .and you think this is prof ?lol The myth of arab leader encouraging Palestinians to leave has been debunked not just by non Jewish historians but by jews and Jewish Israelis .in short your talking a load of out date Zionist bull shit, your quotes have no creditability neither does your argument. you are a joke .and as I said pathetic
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 "You wanna challenge me?" stop with the posturing, it might go down well where you come from but 50 year olds sticking there chest out is just fucking embarrassing .this is the internet, pissing contests are a wast of my time . you want to debate ?then lets .but im not indulging some clown old enough to know better trying to big him self up in his Midlife Crisis.
MUDSHARK111 1 week ago
The URL ending is "BBQ"... im hungry :D
bywukime 1 week ago
they did not "flee", they were forced out by the Zionist movement that STOLE their land!
I do not justify the Jewish expel from Arab countries but that shouldn't also justify the Palestinian refugees!
Also, the Arab citizens of Israel are FAR from having equal rights as the Jewish citizens. Trust me, I live there.
Jews were living in harmony among the Arab countries until the Zionists decided to kick the Palestinians out and turn it into a Jewish land. only then jews started getting expelled.
soptamer 1 week ago
@soptamer I live here too. Arab Leaders are responsible for refugee problem: Palestinian Media Watch:The radio stations of the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: 'Get away from the battle lines. It's a matter of 10 days or 2weeks at the most, and we'll bring you back to Ein-Kerem [near Jerusalem].' And we said to ourselves, 'That's a very long time. What is this? Two weeks? That's a lot!' That's what we thought [then]. And now 50 years have gone by."[PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009
elanainisrael 1 week ago
@soptamer In recent years, Palestinian leaders, writers and refugees have spoken out in the Palestinian media, blaming the Arab leadership for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Palestinian myth that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were deported by Israel in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was voluntary, and the result of orders by the Arab leadership. We can talk (you and I). We can make peace if we want
elanainisrael 1 week ago
@soptamer
In recent years, Israeli leaders, writers and activists have spoken out in the Israeli media, blaming the Israeli leadership for the creation of the palestinians refugee problem. According to these accounts, and contrary to the Israeli myth that palestine was unoccupied in 1948, the vast majority of the Arab exodus from Israel was forced, the result of terror and fighting. You can't make peace with out acknowledging the past
br0073012 1 week ago
@soptamer
Israel viewed the refugees passed a law forbidding their return, assigning their lands to a custodian of absentee property, ignoring slight considerations, such as UN resolutions 181, 194, -Article 13(2) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 'Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country' and The Geneva Conventions of 1949
These displaced people and many of their descendents remain refugees to the present day.
br0073012 1 week ago
@soptamer
There are two sides to every story - propagandists and believers seek only to push their own bias
Both Palestinians and Jews have different versions of what happened in 1948.
Israel insisted that Palestinians attacked them and fled voluntarily, believing that Arab armies would get rid of them.
On the other hand, Palestinians asserted that Zionists made them evict by force as a part of their plan of ‘ethnic cleansing’ they had preconceived.
br0073012 1 week ago
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@br0073012 It is true. Every side has its own view. But this does not make facts endlessly flexible. The refugee problem, and for that matter the whole conflict, could have been solved in a matter of months, technically. But the arab nations never wanted it to be past for good. Just look at Syria today. Any surprised?
aklisny 1 week ago 6
@aklisny the refugee problem,as you put it could have been solved in a matter of days, simply by Israel abiding by the very resolution that created it, 181 and allowing the right of Palestinian refugees to return, or perhaps by abiding by resolution 194, allowing the palestinains refugees to allow the pals to return ( less than 10% of Palestinian refugees have indicated they would return ) The Palestinians are not the responsibility of any other states but Israel and Palestine
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
@bugsy8fuI Perhaps you would like to give some advice to the Jordanians who ANNEXED the WEST BANK in 1950? That's where it gets its name from, you know. Or what about the Egyptians who took over Gaza soon after 1948? I don't see you bleeding your heart for the Palestinians when ARABS steal what you think is their territory. What ARAB countries made ANY effort to set up a Palestinian state?
Your reading of history and distortion of UN Resolution decisions & responsibilities is abysmal.
Countrygent100 1 week ago
@Cuntrygit, well shucks, thanks for your opinion.. however, like arseholes, everyone has an opinion, and while i used factual information, UN resolution 181 and UN resolution 194 that both state the palestinains right of return to their lands, you posted a nothing comment
I suggest you stick with your "clear understanding of Biblical history, the Jewish people & how the ancient prophecies tie in with modern day events." insanity -
lol, "biblical history"
lol 'prophecies" hahah
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
@bugsy8fuI Firstly, grow up.
Secondly, Oh fuck, here we go again. Some bleeding-heart for the Palestinians thinks all they have to do is bleat "UN Resolution this" and "UN Resolution that" as if those resolutions are totally one-sided and in favour of the Palestinians. The UN resolutions specifically call for negotiated peace and for defensible borders for all parties concerned.
Please do your full research and mind your manners.
BTW... do you think the Koran is bullshit?
Countrygent100 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 Well shuckscuntry - fuck here we go again!
one sided UN resolution? Well, gee wiz by golly, you sure is right there, that ol resolution 181 that Created Israel out of the Palestinian mandate sure was a one sided affair for them palestinians..yall got to wonder why they got so antsy about it .
Youre not smart are you son.., clearly - a resolution that created Israel provisional upon conditions thatIsrael is yet to meet is not one sided
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
@Countrygent100 Before 1948 there was no israel, then the one sided UN stepped in and created one..out of someone else's land - Shucks that surely is one sided..
BTW do you think the koran is bullshit? Whats the Koran? ? Why the Koran specifically ? what about the bible, the torah?
Thats right, you believe your cults book of myths, the bible, is actual history and you believe in biblical prophecy.. Please, do your research son..and piss off
bugsy8fuI 1 week ago
A breakdown of the figures reveals of the killings
1315 Palestinian minors were killed by Israeli security forces
2999 Palestinians who did not take part in the hostilities and were killed by Israeli security forces
These figures show that Israel is not the victim in this conflict.
br0073012 1 week ago
Here are some figures from the Israeli Peace group B'Tselem for deaths in the Occupied Territories for the period of 29.9.2000 to 28.2.2011
Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces 6338
Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians 246
Israeli security force personnel killed by Palestinians 252
br0073012 1 week ago
65 years of occupation and ethnic cleansing
Number of Palestinian refugees according to the UN (numbers per country now residing in):
Jordan 1,983,733
Lebanon 425,640
Syria 472,109[28]
West Bank 778,993
Gaza Strip 1,106,195
"We need to expel the Arabs and take their place." - David Ben Gurion ( Russian )
br0073012 1 week ago
De-Arabizing the history of Palestine is another crucial element of the ethnic cleansing. 1500 years of Arab and Muslim rule and culture in Palestine are trivialized, evidence of its existence is being destroyed and all this is done to make the absurd connection between the ancient Hebrew civilization and today's Israel
br0073012 1 week ago
"Our position is based upon the belief that it is through cooperation based on mutual respect, rather that through boycotts or discrimination, that our common goals can be achieved."
Prof. Sari Nusseibeh
Al-Quds University President.a
idevai 1 week ago
@idevai "Sari Nusseibeh ..."
no one in the Arab world listened to him ...
today his views are either marginalized or rejected totally by the Arabs themselves ...
mirotrash 6 days ago
מקסיםםםםםםםםםםם. אין על לאטמה. כל הכבוד לשלמה בלס!!
5768maya 1 week ago
@5768maya welcome to DAyalon's channel =)
idevai 1 week ago
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@5768maya welcome to DAyalon's channel =)
idevai 1 week ago
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60 years teaching their kids to hate; 60 years teaching murder and war to their kids?
They receive 3 times INTERNATIONAL AID! THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN to be SUICIDE BOMBERS, blame Israelis and receive WORLD AID. They suffer from
WORLD HIGHEST OBESITY rate. watch?v=N6MafdQcATQ – The Seeds of Hatred and open your eyes.These children will grow up as dysfunctional adults, will revolt against the parents demanding back their lost childhood.
elanainisrael 1 week ago
@elanainisrael loved your post =) well done!!! thanks
idevai 1 week ago
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MYTH: Islam are not related with Judaism.
REALITY: Muslims read "The Injil (Arabic: إنجيل ʾInǧīl) is the Arabic name for the original Gospel of Jesus, and one of the four Islamic Holy Books the Qur'an records as revealed by God" THEY THINK THE WORDS of the MOST FAMOUS JEW OF THIS WORLD (Jesus) WAS INSPIRED BY GOD :D
Source:
Muhammad in world scriptures Abdul Haque Vidyarthi - 1997
elanainisrael 1 week ago
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@ThePeopleOnline>by presenting you with truth? No by making wild ass claims while pretending arab muslims dont engage in terrorism.
>when i prove that
Correction - when you CLAIM that. Referring people to a google search isnt proof of anything.
>isnt it in ur holy books
Speaking about assumptions. Why is it that muslims assume everyone that doesnt support the terrorism and genocidal aspirations of palestinians is a jewish zionist?
elanainisrael 1 week ago
I think you are playing this card too. You use the Golan canion as a buffer with the Arab world and you use the Palestinian Arabs as cannon fodder. Arabs do this too. You both suck. Encourage your people back to Salonica, Ioannina, Warsaw, South Spain. This would alleviate some problems and help financially all communities. Respect from Greece, but...
VonManavis 1 week ago
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Why should they? Israel is their home country where tehy were born. They only want to live in their own borders and have always offered peac to the Arabs - but the Arabs have always refused any peace proposal. It's not Israel's fault that this conflict is stil unsettled.
sceptiquele 1 week ago
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PMW, Arab site – not Israeli. Arab Leaders are responsible for refugee problem by Palestinian Media Watch:The radio stations of
the Arab regimes kept repeating to us: 'Get away from the battle lines. It's a matter of 10 days or 2 weeks at the most, and we'll
bring you back to Ein-Kerem [near Jerusalem].' And we said to ourselves, 'That's a very long time. What is this? Two weeks?
That's a lot!' That's what we thought [then]. And now 50 years have gone by."[PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009
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"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for
political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves
only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
idevai 1 week ago
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Report: Egypt seizes Gaza-bound anti-aircraft missiles
These were TNT for construction and Anti-bird missiles.
You see they plan on building a new airport in Gaza and they needed the TNT to get rid of any annoying rocks. The missiles are to keep birds away from the future commercial planes. Overkill, yes, but one can never be too careful! :D
idevai 1 week ago
@elanainisrael very good point =)
idevai 1 week ago
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MYTH: arab 'palestinians' are being starved by 'siege'.
REALITY: The prevalence of obesity was 36.8 and 18.1% in rural women and men, respectively, compared with 49.1 and 30.6% in urban women and men, respectively.
Source: Institute of Community and Public Health, Birzeit University, West Bank, Palestinian Authority. hhalabi@birzeit.edu
idevai 1 week ago
@idevai...judaism doesn't recognize jesus. He may have been jewish but judaism as a religion doesn't recognize him. Judaism came about way before christianity. So if anythng islam is more closely related to christianity.
lyate76 1 week ago
@lyate76 not like saviour. like prophet yes ;). read a little bit more.
idevai 1 week ago
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Not to be trusted: Br0... banned for hate/fear mongering. Interesting hmmmm. Do I still need to provide evidence of slander, hate or incitement. His record speaks for itself. Oh, dear me... maybe he will have to change his name and number once again: br007306 account br007308 account br007307 account br007309 account br07315 account br07311 acount BANNED ALL OF THEM. Would you buy a used car from this man?
elanainisrael 1 week ago
Migron is built entirely on land that Israel recognizes as privately-owned by Palestinians. Its establishment and expansion over the past decade epitomizes the corruption that is endemic in Israel's rule in the West Bank, since neither could have taken place without Israeli government officials aiding and abetting settlers' law-breaking.
idoIerner 1 week ago
Outposts are settlements that have been built in the West Bank without Israeli government authorization, in violation of law. Migron is the flagship of the settlers' illegal outpost enterprise - one of the largest and most developed outposts and the shining symbol of the settlers' determination to overcome the Israeli government's longstanding policy against establishing new settlements.
Migron is an open-and-shut case of theft, the physical embodiment of the settlers' contempt for Israeli law.
idoIerner 1 week ago
New settlements are being approved all the time, in East Jerusalem, Gush Etzion, Efrat, Ma'ale Adumim etc.
Of course Israel will say this is simply expanding existing settlements, but if you are a Palestinian whose land has just been confiscated, this is a meaningless distinction.
idoIerner 1 week ago
The only reasons why the Israel government appears to want to abandon Migron to its fate is (a) because it is not defensible as an 'outpost' and (b) so as not to deflect it from its ambition to keep in perpetuity the 60% of the West Bank which it occupies under the Orwellian label of 'Area C'.
idoIerner 1 week ago
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League of Nations early recognition of Israel as national homeland for Jews In 1922 League of Nations Palestine Mandate recognized the land of Israel as the national home of the Jewish people, citing “the historic connection of the Jewish people with 'Palestine'.” The Mandate called for “the establishment in 'Palestine' of a national home for the Jewish people,” and thus Jerusalem is a site of pilgrimage for the whole Jewish nation
elanainisrael 1 week ago
go ahead Israel destroy the Arab propaganda machine of lies
I ♥ you Israel the only free democratic country in the region
I wish I were born a Jew
♣♥♫♫
IraqiAtheistGirl 1 week ago
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Report: Egypt seizes Gaza-bound anti-aircraft missiles
These were TNT for construction and Anti-bird missiles.
You see they plan on building a new airport in Gaza and they needed the TNT to get rid of any annoying rocks. The missiles are to keep birds away from the future commercial planes. Overkill, yes, but one can never be too careful! :D
idevai 1 week ago
excelent!!
SHOHAMVANY 1 week ago
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IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR LITTLE BOYS like SUICIDE BOMBERS?
IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR GIRLS like SUICIDE BOMBERS?
IT'S LEGAL to send YOUR mentally retarded fragile kids like SUICIDE BOMBERS like you did with Hussam Abdo, a mentally challenged boy!?
You must have a STONE HEART to try to justify the murder of families in Syria. You will let syrian children candle's light turns off only because it does not fits your political agenda?
This is my story ( A Syrian boy ) قصة طفل سوري
watch?v=9XB9E9eCEJE
idevai 1 week ago
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In Homs, "559 people had been killed since the government offensive began, including 43 children and 16 women."
Terror sponsored by
The official sponsor of Hamas™ and Hisbullah™ political (terror!) orgs's, Butcher's Bashar Assad Regime™: SINCE 1982 MASSACRING SYRIAN CHILDREN AND WOMEN. Why there aren't massive world protests in the whole world? Are you BLIND? Or it's just HYPOCRISY? (the name of Syrians children killed)
w w w. syrianshuhada. com/Default.asp?a=la&p=&v=&s=c&sb=Age
idevai 2 weeks ago
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What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching hate to their kids?
What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching murder to their kids?
What 'pales' won in 60 years teaching war to their boys?
Oh, wait!!! They are receiving 3 times + INTERNATIONAL AID! Thats it! They don't like to work, so, THEY SEND THEIR CHILDREN LIKE SUICIDE BOMBERS, blame israelis and receive + WORLD AID. Why they should work? Not needed. Wow, thats it the formula to WORLD HIGHEST OBESITY of Gazans!!!
The Seeds of Hatred:
watch?v=N6MafdQcATQ
idevai 2 weeks ago
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The Ghantawi family, including a girl of 15 and two boys aged seven and five, lived near al-Firdaos square in the city. The al-Tirkawi family, with seven members, and the al-Zamal family, with eight members, both lived in the al-Nazirheen area of Homs. In total, the three incidents claimed 20 lives.
Terror sponsored by
Butcher's Bashar Assad Regime™, official sponsor of Hamas™ and Hisbullah™ political (terror!) ORG's.
SINCE 1982 MASSACRING SYRIAN CHILDREN AND WOMEN.
idevai 2 weeks ago
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"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat .
idevai 2 weeks ago
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"The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees." Jordanian newspaper Falastin, Feb. 19, 1949.
Check how arab 'pales' are living in Lebanon, Syria and other places where, in spite of they are arabs too, they have many civil rights DENIED. Why if they are living with brothers?
idevai 2 weeks ago
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"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
idevai 2 weeks ago
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Syria
City bombardment. Courtesy of Syrian Butcher's Bashar Assad Regime™,
official sponsor of Hamas™ and Hisbullah™ political (terror!) ORG's.
SINCE 1982 MASSACRING SYRIAN CHILDREN AND WOMEN.
Homs
قصف الدبابة في مدينة دوما 11-2-2012
watch?v=KXg6vuUiShU
idevai 2 weeks ago
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Israel is forced to do nuisances to some arabs 'pales' for self-defense. Human rights are respected in Israel is much better than in most Arab countries. Why no one cares about the fate of arab 'pales' refugees in the Arab countries? Why the murder of thousands of Arabs in the revolutions concern people less than than the roadblocks in the Judea and Samaria (waste bank)?
idevai 2 weeks ago
@idevai
Let’s further consider the threats and blackmail used to control world governments and maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy decisions of other nations, most notably the US. “To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid" US aid currently is closer to $10 billion annually when all is counted!
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@br0073012 wow, amazing. didn't knew Israel received that kind of aid from USA =). Thanks for letting me know. Now I love more yet USA <3 God bless America =)
idevai 2 weeks ago
@br0073012 You r trying to show the world that JEWS ARE VERY SMART religion, people and nation. If, being ONLY 13 million religious group, if it's really that WE control everything as you said, it is 1 good proof God elected us. If being ONLY 13 million jews (almost the actual population of Sao Paulo City-Brasil) and we maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy of other nations as you said, that is another GOOD PROOF God elected us. I LOVED when you wrote that. tnx:)
idevai 2 weeks ago
@idevai
Let’s look at this “understanding” from an Auschwitz survivor!
watch?v=cSlFR541Uoo
Let’s also consider the Israeli nuclear forces and Israel’s demonstrated history of attacking civilian targets using indiscriminate and banned weapons.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
From September 2000 through 2003, 2,603 Palestinians were killed by Israeli militants in the occupied territories
Zionist haters USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
Zionist haters USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
Failure to acknowledge the basic injustice that forcibly established a state based upon religion to an religious group who had not had a majority in that region for over two thousand years was bound to lead to war.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
The region will continue to be at war whilst Jewish nationalist ideology is championed as opposed to acknowledging past injustices and basing statehood on it’s citizens.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
The Israeli Settler movement has continued growing and expanding throughout the last few decades in spite of the international condemnation it has accrued for Israel, and regardless of which political party holds sway in Tel Aviv.
That is to say that settlement building on the land occupied in 1967 is the policy of Israel.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
Settlers and settlements compose one of the most difficult challenges to peace. Those who self-identify as settlers are ideologically committed to staying on their land regardless of what their government or military think.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
@idevai
Even those in Israel who now loudly call for a swift two-state solution, for fear that it will soon become impossible, have done little or nothing to stop the expansion of settlements - even during the on-going Annapolis Peace Process.
Haters/Zionists USE children than try to look like they care about Israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
br0073012 2 weeks ago
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@idevai Let’s further consider the threats and blackmail used to control world governments and maintain regional hegemony and wider influence over the foreign policy decisions of other nations, most notably the US. “To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid" US aid currently is closer to $10 billion annually when all is counted!
FFPaleSWlNE 2 weeks ago 2
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@idevai
Let’s look at this “understanding” from an Auschwitz survivor!
watch?v=cSlFR541Uoo
Let’s also consider the Israeli nuclear forces and Israel’s demonstrated history of attacking civilian targets using indiscriminate and banned weapons.
FFPaleSWlNE 2 weeks ago 2
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@idevai
"Most European capitals are targets for our (Israeli) air force....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under”. When the world learns the full madness of Israeli policy and arrogance there will be demands for a nuclear-free ME including Israel! The phony narrative that Iran is the nuclear threat fades into insignificance compared to this reality"
FFPaleSWlNE 2 weeks ago 2
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@idevai
Settlers and settlements compose one of the most difficult challenges to peace. Those who self-identify as settlers are ideologically committed to staying on their land regardless of what their government or military think.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
FFPaleSWlNE 2 weeks ago 2
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@idevai
The Israeli Settler movement has continued growing and expanding throughout the last few decades in spite of the international condemnation it has accrued for Israel, and regardless of which political party holds sway in Tel Aviv.
That is to say that settlement building on the land occupied in 1967 is the policy of Israel.
Haters/zionists USE children than try to look like they care about israeli children and women. You can't hide the truth. You are haters and no more than that.
FFPaleSWlNE 2 weeks ago 2