Thank God Almighty for giving the world the extraordinarily gifted German Baroque composers and musicians, Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) and George Friederich Handel (1685-1759)!! Their oratorical music and the chorus as adapted and arranged for the uplifting Easter Hymn by Edmond Budry (1854-1932) in 1884 are beautiful, glorious and inspirational!!
'Thine be the Glory' (choral) is a very beautiful and profoundly moving Song of Ascent, which ends on a gloriously high note - To the Glory of God the Most High....!
I have often listened to 'See here the conquering hero comes....!' with its original lovely Hebraic melody from George Friederich Handel's Oratorio, 'Judah Maccabee'. As beautiful as it is, it is often sung at a much faster tempo but loses its majestic grandeur. I prefer the adaptation and rendition of the music with its lovely Hebraic melody for the well known hymn, 'Thine be the Glory' as arranged by Edmond Budry in 1884. It is far more dignified, beautiful and spiritually elevating!
Hi, my name is Alexander Harold Hersh and I reside in Johannesburg, in the Republic of South Africa. I am Jewish and often enjoy listening to 'Thine be the Glory' (choral) with its original Hebraic melody from 'Judah Maccabee', which was composed by the 17th and 18th Century German Baroque composer and musician, George Friederich Handel in England. It is a choral masterpiece for the Church and for everyone. It is very beautiful and exquisite, glorious and magnificent and is truly an inspiration!
cracking hymn and technically very good, but a little too much performance and not quite enough "triumph" for my taste. In my humble more opinion it could do with more power on "scatters fear and gloom" and "Death has lost its sting," I probably feel like that because it's so good as the last hymn on Easter Morning, when the organist really lets go and the congregation take the roof off the church. when I meet my maker, I hope they carry me out to this one.
At the traditional Catholic College I graduated from just in May, this is what is played as all the faculty and us graduates process into the chapel at the beginning of Mass. They play an organ arrangement with choir. it's one of my favourite pieces ever, and listening to this is just heavenly.
May God send us another Handel to help save this socially dead world!
La música no tiene nacionalidad, la música traspasa fronteras y es un idioma en sí mismo, es un factor de emocionalidad y llega hasta los más profundos pensamientos y sentimientos, la música es sublime, es peligrosa, es subersiva, es santa, es extraordinaria....una de las pocas y reales riquezas de toda la humanidad es la musica...
Remember that Paul [Saint Paul] always deferred to Peter, whom Christ made the made the head of his Church. I am a fan of Saint Paul. You must really inquire into what the Reformation was all about. It has been said that: " They threw the baby out with the bath water. " Just read the history from the Catholic and the Protestant view point and see which version is the truth.
"Remember that Paul [Saint Paul] always deferred to Peter..."
Umm, you might want to recheck that-- see their last little meeting at Anitoch-- Paul talked about it in Galatians 2:11-14. I don't think you can call that deferring. Just saying....
Do people just cruise YT disliking every video they can watch? For the fun of hurting someone's feelings? Because I can't think of another reason why this one was disliked.
Sorry the vast majority of are lauguage is Greek and Latin go to any Greek Island look at the sign post for roads and all the rest and you will understand. CGSNI.
He could have come from Mars is music is the dogs boll***s why cannot people just listen to great music, or look at it this way he was born a German and he love England he was a blood good writer of music that lots of people love.
One of the last offical acts of King George 1st of the United Kingdom was to make George Frederic Handel a naturalized citizen of Great Britain by Act of Parliament. He had commisioned Handel when he was a German Prince and Elector of Hanover to be his "music maker" and many of Handel's works were written specifically for Royal events and engagements in Great Britain. There are few if any other composers in history like him....
@alanthedrum She truly is a diverse Country! Don't forget the Hanover's (starting with George the first up to the present Windsor's in reign at the current moment) are of German decent. George III was the first monarch from the Hanoverian line of monarch's to be born in the United Kingdom and speak English as a first language. George 1st did not speak English yet he was the King of England. Strange for sure, but that has happened quite frequently with Monarch's around the world.
@joevs21001 And do not forget that the current royal family also claims descent from the Normans and King Alfred himself. As it were, they can trace their bloodline through quite a few regions of Europe, just like the other remaining royal houses.
King George III, at a concert, approaches the harpsichordist and says:
"All right. Move over. It's my turn. Where are we? Where? This is child's play, man!
Oh, this is my favourite bit. That's how to do it, see? Come on, trumpets! Give it some heart! ..... Yes, this is Handel. I met him once. Ordinary looking fellow. I have his harpsichord!"
Sang this today at the funeral of a gentle old Christian lady... it was a beautiful reminder of Christ's goodness and power, and a lovely way to commemorate a life lived for God.
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. Today (April 11), we sang this as our opening hymn. It is #376 in Evangelical Lutheran Worship.
This fantastic work praising God is included in the Book of Hymns of the Church of Ireland (Anglican) and has been sung during the Great Sunday service. I got a chance to sing it in a small church in County Meath (Ireland) a couple of years ago.
@ServusGrueziHallo I think it would be unfair to credit it a souly "German" song. After all Handel loved England, he became a British citizen through naturalisation and was buried in Westminster. More proof that contributes to considering himself English as well as German is that he insisted on being call MR Handel over HERR Handel.
It could easily be argued that he was more "English" than "German", but we settle by calling him a German-English composer.
@EnglishBanner. Handel was a German. Get over it. Anyway, the British, the English are Germanic people and English is a Germanic language. Tochter Zion, freue dich.
@ServusGrueziHallo I am aware of the origins of the English people, as i am one of thee (being of Anglo-Saxon origin) and i am very proud of these roots. I have no problem with Handel being German, but i was just pointing out that he was also an English citizen and probably wrote this lovely hymn in our land. There's no need to get too nationalistic about this, this hymn is as English as it is German, that is all.
I honestly do not understand the obsession with it. Culture has more to do with shared experience and culture than simple ethnicity. I am German, but I know that Germans are hardly pure Germanic. Handel was a musical genius, German-born, who reached his peak as a Briton.
Surely ethnicity is part of a shared experience. I am not disagreeing with you, but I find the discussion on what makes a nationality very interesting, as I think peoples nationality should be important, and as a result I think we probably should diversify its meaning.
@EnglishBanner I believe the original words were "Lo, the Conquering Hero Comes" from Judas Maccabaeus and this was written in English. Later on the Easter Hymn "Thine is the Glory" was written to this melody and "Tochter Zion" was written in German, which is an Advent song, even though the words are more appropriate to Palm Sunday.
@EnglishBanner Handel did not compose this "hymn." This chorus is from the Oratorio "Judas Maccabeus" . The words :"Thine Be The Glory" were written by Edmond Budry (1854-1932) and then translated by R. Birch Hoyle (1875-1939) who wed them to Handel's original aria "See the Conquering Hero Comes" for Church use.
@EnglishBanner The music was written by Handel but the hymn itself is an Easter hymn and was written in Switzerland and in French. It is always sung at funerals of the members of the Dutch Royal family
@dimacosi I had just been looking at the Wiki article on the song before watching this, and I noticed someone had stuck the Dutch royalty factoid in the article, though it doesn't exactly fit where they put it...then I saw you mentioned it here, so I guessed. But it's kind of interesting.
@EnglishBanner Thank you for saying this, I was worried Europeans were losing all of their cultural pride and roots with all the talk of EU and open borders.
@ServusGrueziHallo, totally agree with you. English is basically a derivative of the Germanic language. The English borrowed practically their entire culture from the Germans. Even the present British Royal Family originated from the Germanic royal house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
@brandenburg2388 Nonsense the english language is made up of a mixture of Latin, French and saxon (so from Germany but not modern German). For an example "pork" is French whilst "swine" is saxon.
@brandenburg2388 lol, try telling that to us in Cornwall, which remains essentially a Celtic state. I also think you're undervaluing the massive influences of the Roman occupation of Britain (it turned us into an urban, civilised and centralised nation) and the Norman conquest, which ripped the heart out of the Saxon system. You're also forgetting the British influence on unified Germany, particularly Prussia, which aped our industrial revolution.
The English are a mix of Celtic and Germanic. More Celtic than Germanic, but then Germany actually has a lot of Celtic genes too, so biologically they are very similar.
Sir, in my opinion, this is only a political issue: because we Germans are Germanic, the English want to be everything but Germanic. In the past, most Englishmen were proud of their Germanic heritage. In the 19th century, some even suggested to build a memorial for Hermann the Cheruskian in London. The founding fathers of America also were very proud of their Anglo-Saxon (and therefore Germanic) heritage. But nowadays the English celebrate the few "Celtic" blood in their venes instead.
Interestingly it isn't as clean cut as that. For a start Celtic blood is quite prevalent in Germany itself. In fact recent studies show that The South West of Germany and areas of the South are more Celtic than they are 'Germanic' in the sense of Scandinavian 'Germanic'.
Of course, you are right when you say it is political however. To be proud of 'German' genetic heritage sounds a little to close to saying that one is genetically superior and that sounds like Nazism.
@HerrWagnerfreund Interesting ... recent DNA studies, however, have concluded that the population of England is 60% P-Celtic (distinct from Q-Celtic, who the Celts populating Ireland and SW Scotland). This due to the ancient Brythonic links with Gaul; P-Celtic is still spoken in SW England (Cornwall) as well as in Wales.
We are a mix, but the term 'Anglo-Saxon' misleads many. We are part Celtic, Roman, Angle, Jute, Saxon, Danish, Norse and French to name but a few.
And I know studies that show the exact opposite. So what? Are the scientists who came to your conclusion more trustworthy than the ones who came to mine? The Welsh are Britons. The Scots are Britons. The English mainly are Germans in ethnic terms although culturally highly influenced by the French-speaking Normans -- who were ethnic Germanic people as well originating from what nowadays is Norway..
@HerrWagnerfreund The study I refer to was published by the BMA, and is considered reputable - it is also recent.
What you say also displays no great familiarity with our history in England, and with our constituent populations.
There is a Germanic strain present in England, but more in the sense that "German" is equivalent to 'European'. ie the languages that were once described as Indo-Germanic are now referred to as Indo-European.
My friend, after Hitler and WW2, most Europeans are somewhat wary of Germany. I hope you understand why many are not too eager to "acknowledge their Germanic Roots".
I am not saying that it is right, but this is just the way it is.
Who gives a s*** where he was born or he lived his music go`s on and on and know no borders and in case you don`t konw he is very much alive . . . peace
Its a tradition in Dublin, Ireland to sing Hark the Herald Angels Sing on Christmas Eve in St. Patricks Cathedral Dublin, to this tune - Judas Maccabaus.
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A time and age that will never return. Welcome to yobs whose next target is someone to spit and to bring some unfortunate soul without a mother or a father into this world! The music just transports you!
@didcotparkway It would be wonderfull to retun to those days, most people were starving and had the pox, no antibiotics,no NHS, grandkids up the chimney, no old age pension....
@trenfield1 I like to think I would have been one of the highest classes, lording it over peasants like you, lol. In fact, I'd have been one of the scrawny kids down a mine somewhere!
you missed his pit stop to italy. so he was a german born italian speaking englishman who lived as his life as a musician....and a great one at that. lol
.....Shame on me ..... I didn´t know that this piece is "from HIM"! I always thought "it´s an american crismas song". Now I´ve learned and I´ll be much more a fan of G.F. Handel!!!!
Handel was born in Germany, but moved to England later in his life, and indeed became very devoted to his adopted homeland. I think both countries can be proud of him, as Germany produced him, but it was England that inspired him.
This takes me back several years to when I conducted the whole of Handel's "Judas Maccabaeus". with full orchestra, choir and eight soloists. And hymn (not the same words) is one of the majestic choruses ~ this music will last for ever when today's shallow music is dead and buried without trace!
I love a good arrogant imbecile, always a humourous post.
Pray tell, what is YOUR ancestry Phialen? And are we to take it as face that they are superior to dudley1domore's?
To be honest, as "barbarian" refers to the pre christian cultures (and hypocrasies) of germany, I would consider your apprent insult quite a compliment.
The only thing to complete your hypocrasy would be for you to be profess yourself as a christian.
i do like some hip hop but will it be played in 250 years i don`t think so but this will be and longer, i just found out most of the music i like is by Handel
It's too bad that many of our young people are more interested in hip hop and rap rather than the amazing works of these great European men. I hope this culture will continue to survive.
You are so right. We sang this at our church this Easter morning. First Presbyterian. I asked my daughter if she remembered this in her music appreciation class at Shepherd U. She just looked at me like...duh. It gives me cold chills. I also enjoy watching the Joy of Music on EWTN on Direct TV.
Thank God Almighty for giving the world the extraordinarily gifted German Baroque composers and musicians, Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) and George Friederich Handel (1685-1759)!! Their oratorical music and the chorus as adapted and arranged for the uplifting Easter Hymn by Edmond Budry (1854-1932) in 1884 are beautiful, glorious and inspirational!!
AlexanderHersh 3 months ago in playlist AlexanderHersh's favorites 4
'Thine be the Glory' (choral) is a very beautiful and profoundly moving Song of Ascent, which ends on a gloriously high note - To the Glory of God the Most High....!
AlexanderHersh 3 months ago 3
I have often listened to 'See here the conquering hero comes....!' with its original lovely Hebraic melody from George Friederich Handel's Oratorio, 'Judah Maccabee'. As beautiful as it is, it is often sung at a much faster tempo but loses its majestic grandeur. I prefer the adaptation and rendition of the music with its lovely Hebraic melody for the well known hymn, 'Thine be the Glory' as arranged by Edmond Budry in 1884. It is far more dignified, beautiful and spiritually elevating!
AlexanderHersh 3 months ago 2
Hi, my name is Alexander Harold Hersh and I reside in Johannesburg, in the Republic of South Africa. I am Jewish and often enjoy listening to 'Thine be the Glory' (choral) with its original Hebraic melody from 'Judah Maccabee', which was composed by the 17th and 18th Century German Baroque composer and musician, George Friederich Handel in England. It is a choral masterpiece for the Church and for everyone. It is very beautiful and exquisite, glorious and magnificent and is truly an inspiration!
AlexanderHersh 3 months ago 3
I prefer the original. See the conquering hero comes
Joey17ization 5 months ago
Glorious and magnificent version!
intherdt1 5 months ago 2
cracking hymn and technically very good, but a little too much performance and not quite enough "triumph" for my taste. In my humble more opinion it could do with more power on "scatters fear and gloom" and "Death has lost its sting," I probably feel like that because it's so good as the last hymn on Easter Morning, when the organist really lets go and the congregation take the roof off the church. when I meet my maker, I hope they carry me out to this one.
Stedmaniac 6 months ago
This piece makes me want to be carried on a sedan chair!!!
KmusicSteve 6 months ago 4
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KmusicSteve 6 months ago
At the traditional Catholic College I graduated from just in May, this is what is played as all the faculty and us graduates process into the chapel at the beginning of Mass. They play an organ arrangement with choir. it's one of my favourite pieces ever, and listening to this is just heavenly.
May God send us another Handel to help save this socially dead world!
iluvburpees 6 months ago
@iluvburpees and may He forgive you for being a catholic!
dimacosi 6 months ago
For some reason I feel like the first 8 seconds of this piece are practically divine...but maybe it's just that's it's Handel...:)
MTBozeman7 6 months ago
Anglo-Saxons were Germans! We are brothers and we should be friends!
graddlar 7 months ago 5
@graddlar
all human beings are brothers and should be friends
PjanoKK 5 months ago 3
La música no tiene nacionalidad, la música traspasa fronteras y es un idioma en sí mismo, es un factor de emocionalidad y llega hasta los más profundos pensamientos y sentimientos, la música es sublime, es peligrosa, es subersiva, es santa, es extraordinaria....una de las pocas y reales riquezas de toda la humanidad es la musica...
carloko08 7 months ago
Grazie per questa eccellente esecuzione.
80216ify 7 months ago
Remember that Paul [Saint Paul] always deferred to Peter, whom Christ made the made the head of his Church. I am a fan of Saint Paul. You must really inquire into what the Reformation was all about. It has been said that: " They threw the baby out with the bath water. " Just read the history from the Catholic and the Protestant view point and see which version is the truth.
WPGS25041941 8 months ago
@WPGS25041941
"Remember that Paul [Saint Paul] always deferred to Peter..."
Umm, you might want to recheck that-- see their last little meeting at Anitoch-- Paul talked about it in Galatians 2:11-14. I don't think you can call that deferring. Just saying....
neckronn99 6 months ago
Frosty the snowman...
HiImBobBum 8 months ago
I am not a fan of the Reformation, but never the less this a most dignified presentation.
WPGS25041941 9 months ago 3
@WPGS25041941, If you are not a fan of the Reformation; you are not a fan of Paul.
colorado4815162342 8 months ago
Do people just cruise YT disliking every video they can watch? For the fun of hurting someone's feelings? Because I can't think of another reason why this one was disliked.
Lassannn 9 months ago 2
9 people will see the glory tomorrow...
Oistrakhfollower 11 months ago 3
Sorry the vast majority of are lauguage is Greek and Latin go to any Greek Island look at the sign post for roads and all the rest and you will understand. CGSNI.
ColinBurnside 1 year ago
He could have come from Mars is music is the dogs boll***s why cannot people just listen to great music, or look at it this way he was born a German and he love England he was a blood good writer of music that lots of people love.
sleepingspider 1 year ago
what choir is this?
yda1740 1 year ago
Congratulations !
One of the best versions I've learned to know
berniewa2008 1 year ago
One of the last offical acts of King George 1st of the United Kingdom was to make George Frederic Handel a naturalized citizen of Great Britain by Act of Parliament. He had commisioned Handel when he was a German Prince and Elector of Hanover to be his "music maker" and many of Handel's works were written specifically for Royal events and engagements in Great Britain. There are few if any other composers in history like him....
joevs21001 1 year ago
@joevs21001 England's best composer was German. Her greatest General was Irish and her greatest engineer French.
alanthedrum 1 year ago
@alanthedrum She truly is a diverse Country! Don't forget the Hanover's (starting with George the first up to the present Windsor's in reign at the current moment) are of German decent. George III was the first monarch from the Hanoverian line of monarch's to be born in the United Kingdom and speak English as a first language. George 1st did not speak English yet he was the King of England. Strange for sure, but that has happened quite frequently with Monarch's around the world.
joevs21001 1 year ago
@joevs21001 And do not forget that the current royal family also claims descent from the Normans and King Alfred himself. As it were, they can trace their bloodline through quite a few regions of Europe, just like the other remaining royal houses.
Augustus077 1 year ago
It's so perfect ...
I want to listen this song in radio ! :) not stupid lady gago :((
DisturbedRaziell 1 year ago
Superb
intherdt1 1 year ago
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sweetlove19ful 1 year ago 4
Whooh!!! - it brings my memory back to the very SAD days of the funeral of THE PEOPLE'S PRINCESS.......
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onlinelondon 1 year ago
Without the Britains the Germans had stayed on the trees and even we had'nt get the Harmonical classic music at all...
ohad3210 1 year ago
Pardon? Besides the fact that the English are mainly of Germanic descend, as are the Germans, they were never superior to Germany in cultural terms.
HerrWagnerfreund 1 year ago
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ohad3210 1 year ago
@Calvarienberg Many followed - the largest ethnic minority in 19th Century Britain were in fact germans.
ISLANDBUGLEBOY 1 year ago
i like this song i would watch the orchestra
nellyimut 1 year ago
From the film, "The Madness of King George":
King George III, at a concert, approaches the harpsichordist and says:
"All right. Move over. It's my turn. Where are we? Where? This is child's play, man!
Oh, this is my favourite bit. That's how to do it, see? Come on, trumpets! Give it some heart! ..... Yes, this is Handel. I met him once. Ordinary looking fellow. I have his harpsichord!"
lichtbroeder 1 year ago
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KmusicSteve 1 year ago
@Calvarienberg you mean like the royal family...
Xcerusnz 1 year ago
Great upload.
SandrineSoprano 1 year ago
@Calvarienberg
Imo Britains greatest composer was and is Handel.
Well, nobody is perfect. His music is.
YevgeniyAlexey 1 year ago
@YevgeniyAlexey Shame he was actually a German composer.
Dodo251 1 year ago
does anyone know where i can just listen to the vioin part???
XxXxwhatevxXxX 1 year ago
I DIE FOR ENGLISH AND GERMAN CLASSIC MUSIC
THEY R THE BEST EVER !
1987ArabicGirl 1 year ago
World Cup 2006 MOTD.
Zeziamdg 1 year ago
Damn the german composers were just genius like
ParisHilton1982 1 year ago 2
@ParisHilton1982 Genau!
percivallll 1 year ago
@Calvarienberg LOL! Don't forget Bach and Albinoni! :)
parakeethands 1 year ago
Händel, Mozart, Beethoven, Pachelbel, Vivaldi, Bach ... well the list goes on and on..
Europe FTW !!!!!!!
TinyArts 1 year ago
Händel ! Sehr schön !
TinyArts 1 year ago
the exploited pwns this old geizer........
UnknownNationOFYC 1 year ago
Always liked this sort of music.. never understood what they are saying though.
ahmedalian 1 year ago
@ahmedalian The song is about the conquering Christ and to Him be all of the glory. Look up the lyrics. :)
parakeethands 1 year ago 3
oooooo genial......demasiado hermoso
rorometalrock 1 year ago
He has a major memorial in Westmintster Abbey...so even with German birth he gave as much to England
Hoolaham 1 year ago
Handel was German in heritage , and British in Culture and attitude - can't we just share him !
sailingforde04 1 year ago 12
@sailingforde04 And he was naturalised anyway, so he's also English in the legal sense.
Gonnakillyou 5 months ago
@sailingforde04 Yes, he was german in heritage, like all english people :)
Gruenkreuz100 5 months ago 2
Awesome! :)
AldSotha 1 year ago
Beethoven composed a set of Theme and Variations for Cello and Piano as well.
tarantellaonline 1 year ago
He was German but loved Britain so much he counted himself British and insisted on being called 'mr.Handel' rather than 'her.Handel'
theathiestalaby 1 year ago
The music is also used for the German Christmas carol, "Tochter Zion".
lichtbroeder 1 year ago
aunque no se nada de musica me parece muy buena......
idvallejos 1 year ago
Sang this today at the funeral of a gentle old Christian lady... it was a beautiful reminder of Christ's goodness and power, and a lovely way to commemorate a life lived for God.
thessalonian71 1 year ago 2
Praise God for a genius like Handel not only the sublime melody, but the great truth of these words. Soli Deo Gloria.
michaelbyrnes2012 1 year ago
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. Today (April 11), we sang this as our opening hymn. It is #376 in Evangelical Lutheran Worship.
mkl62 1 year ago 2
Wonderful song, which we used in church today.
5*, one of the best classical pieces ever.
TheBritannicRoyalist 1 year ago 2
playing this tomorrow, wow beautiful way of praising the Lord
0saration0 1 year ago
This amayzing work is included in the Book of Hymns of the Church of Ireland (Anglican) and has been sung during the Great Sunday service.
Forsinard10 1 year ago
This fantastic work praising God is included in the Book of Hymns of the Church of Ireland (Anglican) and has been sung during the Great Sunday service. I got a chance to sing it in a small church in County Meath (Ireland) a couple of years ago.
Forsinard10 1 year ago
Handel was bald for many years. His wig is KOOL!!!
pianoharry 1 year ago
Está muy bonito, la mejor música del mundo acercándose a la música del Reino de Dios
etymos7 1 year ago
buuuuuuuuuuuuuh ihr könnt nicht singen des geht so-..- sie ist ein monsta monsta sie macht mir angst dch ich weis wie sie tickt
freakyuhot 1 year ago
It actually first appeard in Handel's earlier oratorio 'Joshua' (as See the conqu'ring hero comes) and he later re-used it in Judas Maccabaeus.
handel86 1 year ago
All Hail to the great G.F.Handel!!!!!!!!!
Jame243 1 year ago 11
A wonderful piece. 5*
I reserve the best compliments for such a wonderful composer. Handel is one of the greatest composers.
TheBritannicRoyalist 2 years ago 4
This piece was also feature in the 1937 and 1952 film of 'Prisoner of Zenda' it was the coronation march.
SilentShooter53 2 years ago
Tochter Zion.
ServusGrueziHallo 2 years ago
Yes, Tochter Zion. That's German. If you don't like it being German then don't sing it and get over it.
ServusGrueziHallo 2 years ago
@ServusGrueziHallo I think it would be unfair to credit it a souly "German" song. After all Handel loved England, he became a British citizen through naturalisation and was buried in Westminster. More proof that contributes to considering himself English as well as German is that he insisted on being call MR Handel over HERR Handel.
It could easily be argued that he was more "English" than "German", but we settle by calling him a German-English composer.
EnglishBanner 1 year ago
@EnglishBanner. Handel was a German. Get over it. Anyway, the British, the English are Germanic people and English is a Germanic language. Tochter Zion, freue dich.
House= Haus. Mouse = Maus. Father=Vater. Creek=Krik. Brown= braun. Field=Feld,
Sea=See, Man=Mann, School=Schule, Grade=Grad, Beer=Bier, Wine=Wein, Uncle=Onkel, and so forth and so on.
ServusGrueziHallo 1 year ago
@ServusGrueziHallo I am aware of the origins of the English people, as i am one of thee (being of Anglo-Saxon origin) and i am very proud of these roots. I have no problem with Handel being German, but i was just pointing out that he was also an English citizen and probably wrote this lovely hymn in our land. There's no need to get too nationalistic about this, this hymn is as English as it is German, that is all.
EnglishBanner 1 year ago 24
@EnglishBanner
I honestly do not understand the obsession with it. Culture has more to do with shared experience and culture than simple ethnicity. I am German, but I know that Germans are hardly pure Germanic. Handel was a musical genius, German-born, who reached his peak as a Briton.
Bunnyroo7 1 year ago 2
Surely ethnicity is part of a shared experience. I am not disagreeing with you, but I find the discussion on what makes a nationality very interesting, as I think peoples nationality should be important, and as a result I think we probably should diversify its meaning.
EmperorHarold 10 months ago
@EnglishBanner I believe the original words were "Lo, the Conquering Hero Comes" from Judas Maccabaeus and this was written in English. Later on the Easter Hymn "Thine is the Glory" was written to this melody and "Tochter Zion" was written in German, which is an Advent song, even though the words are more appropriate to Palm Sunday.
Verweiler 10 months ago
@EnglishBanner Long live the Anglo-Saxon race! and to the two great branches US/UK !!! Germans and English are cousins!!!
fistofthenorthstar89 10 months ago
Not all Brits are Anglos
bazotter 9 months ago 2
@EnglishBanner And all Anglo-Saxons are also Germanic.
TheCommunard 10 months ago
@EnglishBanner Especially that this music is a root of our whole latin culture, not a particular country. A culture that is, sadly, dying right now.
KaneZuooo 9 months ago 2
@EnglishBanner Handel did not compose this "hymn." This chorus is from the Oratorio "Judas Maccabeus" . The words :"Thine Be The Glory" were written by Edmond Budry (1854-1932) and then translated by R. Birch Hoyle (1875-1939) who wed them to Handel's original aria "See the Conquering Hero Comes" for Church use.
redbrian3655 8 months ago
@EnglishBanner
Well quite so.
smfmshsl 7 months ago
@EnglishBanner The music was written by Handel but the hymn itself is an Easter hymn and was written in Switzerland and in French. It is always sung at funerals of the members of the Dutch Royal family
dimacosi 6 months ago
@dimacosi Dude, are you guy who inserted that thing about the Dutch royal family into the Wikipedia article about this song????
Navyfoots 6 months ago
@Navyfoots No dude,i did not.....where did you get that idea? But it s true....it was sung at the funeral of Princess Juliana
dimacosi 6 months ago
@dimacosi I had just been looking at the Wiki article on the song before watching this, and I noticed someone had stuck the Dutch royalty factoid in the article, though it doesn't exactly fit where they put it...then I saw you mentioned it here, so I guessed. But it's kind of interesting.
Navyfoots 6 months ago
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scullyy 6 months ago
@EnglishBanner Actually thats quite funny, as it's neither german nor english
scullyy 6 months ago
@EnglishBanner Thank you for saying this, I was worried Europeans were losing all of their cultural pride and roots with all the talk of EU and open borders.
Willredd94 4 months ago
@ServusGrueziHallo, totally agree with you. English is basically a derivative of the Germanic language. The English borrowed practically their entire culture from the Germans. Even the present British Royal Family originated from the Germanic royal house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
brandenburg2388 1 year ago
@brandenburg2388 Nonsense the english language is made up of a mixture of Latin, French and saxon (so from Germany but not modern German). For an example "pork" is French whilst "swine" is saxon.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@brandenburg2388 lol, try telling that to us in Cornwall, which remains essentially a Celtic state. I also think you're undervaluing the massive influences of the Roman occupation of Britain (it turned us into an urban, civilised and centralised nation) and the Norman conquest, which ripped the heart out of the Saxon system. You're also forgetting the British influence on unified Germany, particularly Prussia, which aped our industrial revolution.
LarryMcN 1 year ago
i think brandenburg is trying to justify his shit country
fish666sublime 1 year ago
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@fish666sublime I beg you to remove this, it is not worthy of any of this. Shameful, disgusting and, a stupid waste of YOUR time.
scatterhawk47 1 year ago
@ServusGrueziHallo
The English are a mix of Celtic and Germanic. More Celtic than Germanic, but then Germany actually has a lot of Celtic genes too, so biologically they are very similar.
perfacetus 1 year ago
@perfacetus Well all Europeans are to an extent. The Franks (who created modern France) were originally from Germany.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
It's a myth that the English are of Celtic descend. Modern gene analysis proves that the Anglo-Saxons who came to Britain did not mix with the Celts.
HerrWagnerfreund 1 year ago
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@HerrWagnerfreund The Germans learn from Italians, and the Italians learn the Harmony from the Britain's folk music and choir music
ohad3210 1 year ago
@HerrWagnerfreund
Not true, look up the distribution of the Celtic R1b gene in Europe. It is about 60% in England 80% in Wales and about 40% in Germany.
Clearly there is a distinction between the English and the traditionally 'Celtic' nations, but there is still a high amount of Celtic DNA in England.
perfacetus 1 year ago
Sir, in my opinion, this is only a political issue: because we Germans are Germanic, the English want to be everything but Germanic. In the past, most Englishmen were proud of their Germanic heritage. In the 19th century, some even suggested to build a memorial for Hermann the Cheruskian in London. The founding fathers of America also were very proud of their Anglo-Saxon (and therefore Germanic) heritage. But nowadays the English celebrate the few "Celtic" blood in their venes instead.
HerrWagnerfreund 1 year ago
@HerrWagnerfreund
Interestingly it isn't as clean cut as that. For a start Celtic blood is quite prevalent in Germany itself. In fact recent studies show that The South West of Germany and areas of the South are more Celtic than they are 'Germanic' in the sense of Scandinavian 'Germanic'.
Of course, you are right when you say it is political however. To be proud of 'German' genetic heritage sounds a little to close to saying that one is genetically superior and that sounds like Nazism.
perfacetus 1 year ago
@HerrWagnerfreund Interesting ... recent DNA studies, however, have concluded that the population of England is 60% P-Celtic (distinct from Q-Celtic, who the Celts populating Ireland and SW Scotland). This due to the ancient Brythonic links with Gaul; P-Celtic is still spoken in SW England (Cornwall) as well as in Wales.
We are a mix, but the term 'Anglo-Saxon' misleads many. We are part Celtic, Roman, Angle, Jute, Saxon, Danish, Norse and French to name but a few.
But majority German,? No.
flygweilo 1 year ago
And I know studies that show the exact opposite. So what? Are the scientists who came to your conclusion more trustworthy than the ones who came to mine? The Welsh are Britons. The Scots are Britons. The English mainly are Germans in ethnic terms although culturally highly influenced by the French-speaking Normans -- who were ethnic Germanic people as well originating from what nowadays is Norway..
HerrWagnerfreund 1 year ago
@HerrWagnerfreund The study I refer to was published by the BMA, and is considered reputable - it is also recent.
What you say also displays no great familiarity with our history in England, and with our constituent populations.
There is a Germanic strain present in England, but more in the sense that "German" is equivalent to 'European'. ie the languages that were once described as Indo-Germanic are now referred to as Indo-European.
We are more Celtic-French-Italian than German.
flygweilo 1 year ago
My friend, after Hitler and WW2, most Europeans are somewhat wary of Germany. I hope you understand why many are not too eager to "acknowledge their Germanic Roots".
I am not saying that it is right, but this is just the way it is.
nalaspappa 10 months ago
@ServusGrueziHallo creek means bach in german
there is no german word named krik^^
wolffe93 1 year ago
@wolffe93 Yes you are correct. I meant to type kriek instead of krik.
ServusGrueziHallo 1 year ago
@ServusGrueziHallo still i dont know a word named kriek
i looked it up, and its only meaning is a cherry-beer
wolffe93 1 year ago
Handel es el donde comer kaka bano!
DrStabkill 2 years ago
*glad sigh* :')
Catie501 2 years ago
Who gives a s*** where he was born or he lived his music go`s on and on and know no borders and in case you don`t konw he is very much alive . . . peace
sleepingspider 2 years ago
Especially because I am sure he would have replied that he considered himself a "Weltbürger" anyway
glykera 2 years ago
Its a tradition in Dublin, Ireland to sing Hark the Herald Angels Sing on Christmas Eve in St. Patricks Cathedral Dublin, to this tune - Judas Maccabaus.
pipeup1 2 years ago 2
ahh :-D this was in my confirmation :-D loved it, and will always do
Askelairlines747 2 years ago
Love this song, but it is much better to sing it in church. I sang it a few time when I was in London.
Greifwelpe 2 years ago 3
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A time and age that will never return. Welcome to yobs whose next target is someone to spit and to bring some unfortunate soul without a mother or a father into this world! The music just transports you!
didcotparkway 2 years ago
@didcotparkway It would be wonderfull to retun to those days, most people were starving and had the pox, no antibiotics,no NHS, grandkids up the chimney, no old age pension....
trenfield1 1 year ago
@trenfield1 I like to think I would have been one of the highest classes, lording it over peasants like you, lol. In fact, I'd have been one of the scrawny kids down a mine somewhere!
LarryMcN 1 year ago
I don't think so... ? I've never heard that.
TheApfelkern 2 years ago
Love this hymn!
thebigJM92 2 years ago 6
you missed his pit stop to italy. so he was a german born italian speaking englishman who lived as his life as a musician....and a great one at that. lol
handelfan610 2 years ago 3
we sing: canticorum uibilo ....
JeroenStu 2 years ago
We sing: Happy Mondays!
AlsatianCousin 2 years ago
Die Elsaesser sind toll! Gutes Essen und Trinken gibt es bei die Elsaesser!
ServusGrueziHallo 2 years ago
we in Germany sing: Tochter Zion freue dich, jauchze laut Jerusalem.
TheApfelkern 2 years ago 4
I agree!
rodellinda 2 years ago
"Endless is the Victory"
sturnfield7783 2 years ago
Amazing. Beautiful.
autopsiante 2 years ago 3
Nice arrangement but I still prefer the original "See the conquering hero comes"
novusfumo 2 years ago
can some one tell me if he did write the whole thing( don`t want to put his name down may spell it wrong)
sleepingspider 2 years ago
Belo mais belo que isto ñ há, grande Handel
bigtusa2 2 years ago
"Georg Friedrich Händel" or "George Frideric Handel" Who gives a damn........... the music is GLORIOUS!
AcousticSaloon 2 years ago 13
I agree! Handel and Bach were the greatest! Baroque forever!
camposi 2 years ago 6
definitively "the mastermind" beside Bach. Maybe I´ll be setup a Handel-Fanclub online!"
camposi 2 years ago 2
inform me when you do,camposi,
designedsayer 2 years ago
Majestic.
parakeethands 2 years ago
.....Shame on me ..... I didn´t know that this piece is "from HIM"! I always thought "it´s an american crismas song". Now I´ve learned and I´ll be much more a fan of G.F. Handel!!!!
camposi 2 years ago
That is quite a serious matter.
KnightGarter 2 years ago
Magnifikt!
buxtehude07 2 years ago
where is this recording from, I would love to get it on CD. Really enjoyed it thankyou for posting it : )
chocchoccychocolate 2 years ago
European Classical music is the best.
blchristian 2 years ago 49
Well if you put it that way then yes it is.
1PostPoMoMaN1 2 years ago
He was German and so one of my countryman, but I have to recognise that the text of this song is far more better in englisch then in german!
Thine be the glory Jesus Christ!
Greifwelpe 2 years ago 2
Handel was born in Germany, but moved to England later in his life, and indeed became very devoted to his adopted homeland. I think both countries can be proud of him, as Germany produced him, but it was England that inspired him.
somedude221 2 years ago 3
To be honest, I think this music is so beautiful that mankind as a whole should be proud of it.
Glory be to God!
jackjohnbob 2 years ago 5
Great European music! Keep our culture alive!
kdkmeister 2 years ago 4
Yes!
parakeethands 2 years ago
This takes me back several years to when I conducted the whole of Handel's "Judas Maccabaeus". with full orchestra, choir and eight soloists. And hymn (not the same words) is one of the majestic choruses ~ this music will last for ever when today's shallow music is dead and buried without trace!
notsellor123 2 years ago 7
Nice to hear it in choral long time since last time.
JaguarOFcomedy 2 years ago 3
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your ancestors are filthy barbarians dudley1domore
don't flatter yourself ...
music like this is meant for the few enlightened souls
phialen 2 years ago
I love a good arrogant imbecile, always a humourous post.
Pray tell, what is YOUR ancestry Phialen? And are we to take it as face that they are superior to dudley1domore's?
To be honest, as "barbarian" refers to the pre christian cultures (and hypocrasies) of germany, I would consider your apprent insult quite a compliment.
The only thing to complete your hypocrasy would be for you to be profess yourself as a christian.
wanker
safemypikey 2 years ago
i do like some hip hop but will it be played in 250 years i don`t think so but this will be and longer, i just found out most of the music i like is by Handel
sleepingspider 2 years ago 5
As a European American, this music makes me feel pride in the musical genius of my ancestors!
Studley1Doright 2 years ago 8
great song *----* gooooooooooooood
MijonococoxD 2 years ago 2
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SCREW CLASSICAL METAL RULES
Laszlokh 2 years ago
Philistine
Oneandoneself 2 years ago
Philistine just listen to it rather than ruin it for everyone else, anyway this is Baroque
Oneandoneself 2 years ago
It's too bad that many of our young people are more interested in hip hop and rap rather than the amazing works of these great European men. I hope this culture will continue to survive.
Red0Freedom 2 years ago 9
You are so right. We sang this at our church this Easter morning. First Presbyterian. I asked my daughter if she remembered this in her music appreciation class at Shepherd U. She just looked at me like...duh. It gives me cold chills. I also enjoy watching the Joy of Music on EWTN on Direct TV.
kay52022 2 years ago 4
Yet another great European composer...
SpiritOfTheIsland 2 years ago 5
Ma perché 'sta versione da "Paese dei campanelli"?
girgiodivita 2 years ago
gotta love handel, but god do I hate boys choirs... :P
Zidonius 2 years ago