The Living Dead - Part 1. Adam Curtis Documentary

[euthydemos]

IMDB has:

On the Desperate Edge of Now - S1, Ep1 - May 30, 1995

You Have Used Me as a Fish Long Enough - S1, Ep2 - Jun. 6, 1995

The Attic - S1, Ep3 - Jun. 12, 1995

[MrJamminJeff]

Clapping monkeys !

[odinsmagicstaff1]

Wave a flag, and jump through a hoop, no thanks!!!

[joeyleotard]

no shit, but i wont be remembering africa I'll be forgetting that song that keeps playing at the beginning, ah what was it again?

[slickwillywize]

Imagine a boot stamping on a mans face forever and ever

[docbeetle]

@slickwillywize ???????

[shanghained]

@freedo333 Song playing at the beginning is Balboa Blue by the Marketts. It's right here on Youtube if you search

[bobbygnosis]

That first part made me wince a little.

[earthstick]

We find it easier to survive if we work together, as do many other organisms. It just so happens that we first work with those close to us.

[81mizzScarlett]

Anti-racist is code word for anti-white.

[81mizzScarlett]

Anti-racist is code word for anti-white.

[81mizzScarlett]

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

[ErrolDreamer]

Adam Curtis is great I could listern to him all day........

He has also done a documentary called PANDORA'S BOX highly recommended for anyone who likes this..... Thanks for reading

[pastrychef1985]

Wertsch's "Voices of Collective Remembering" is a great book on grand-historical narrative construction and on the generally contingent and reconstructed nature of what is remembered from whatever political and cultural standpoint using whatever tools. He shows it as a rationalised process.

[Hemouth]

who would accept to have their skull broken and brain electrified

[MikeRLloyd73]

I don't know were they were positing that current but you can also come up with memories that are not yours and create audio/visual hallucinations in the right places,they need to be careful with conclusions for not every patient experiences the same thing.Many are unidentifiable memories.

[MikeRLloyd73]

I don't know were they were positing that current but you can also come up with memories that are not yours and create audio/visual hallucinations in the right places,they need to be careful with conclusions for not every patient experiences the same thing.Many are unidentifiable memories.

[klangding]

Yeah, anyone know the song at the beginning? It's great!

[emadex]

@freedo333 - the track you're referring to is 'Balboa Blue' by The Marketts.

[ikkoikki]

@robertwc82 But those 'individual organisms' have shared memes; traditions, backgrounds, etc. To argue otherwise would be extreme relativism, arguing that something is true just because it is feasible.

[robertwc82]

@ikkoikki such as? i have no more in common with someone living on the otherside of Australian, thousands and thousands of miles away then i do with someone in ew Zealand who is just as far away (even less). or someone in USA or UK or Argentina or Zimbawe.

even if we have shared traditions, so what?

i do not care for tradition. just because something has always een done, doesnt mean shit to me, its no reason for me to do it

[worshipsdogs]

@robertwc82 have you traveled much outside your own country/culture?

[robertwc82]

@worshipsdogs yes, i have been to many places

[OnARollFreddy]

@robertwc82

And yet you came back to the place where you started.

And what you spouted below was pure Jewish Marxism.

Whats funny is you sound so pompous and self important as you write it, but you are nothing but a mouth piece of an anti-White propaganda machine.

The people who created that garbage have a name for people like you.

Useful Idiots and Wankers

[robertwc82]

@OnARollFreddy oh PO-EASE. go back to the assylum crackpot.

nothing worse than a delusional idiot with a persecution complex.

a handful of eople on a boat fleeing a shit-hole country does not amount to an "anti-white" conspiracy. it is you who is the fucking wanker.

i suppose the illuminai is involved to is it?

better make sure you wrap some tin foil over your head, dont want the reptillian aliens reading your thoughts now do you

[ErrolDreamer]

@robertwc82 ahhaahahahhahah LOL

[OnARollFreddy]

No one is flooding Japan with Non-Japanese and encouraging everyone to "mix".

No one is flooding Africa with Non-Africans and encouraging everyone to "mix".

Only citizens of White/European Countries like the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the countries in Europe are having uncontrolled immigration forced on them.

This "assimilation" or blending is nothing more than an attempt to wipe out the White race. It's genocide.

They aren't anti-racists, they're anti-White.

[robertwc82]

@OnARollFreddy no one is flooding anyone with anything. period. you fucking idiot

[EmmaYaBasta]

@robertwc82 "individual" organisms who can't survive -- let alone "civilize" or, better, develop alongside other, different organisms -- without social relations. Marx at the very least pointed to that fact with great skill.

[robertwc82]

@EmmaYaBasta Marx was a fool who offered only baseless rhetoric. we do have social relations (so do many mammals) we do survive and we do have civilization.

we have evolved empathy and altruism because natural selection favoured those traits. we did not evolve into subpsecies, a ruling class the burgoise and the prolatarians. power is gained by decieving 1 organism into thinking he is mentally/spiritually inferior to another version of the exact same organism

fuck Marx and fuck all elitists

[EmmaYaBasta]

@robertwc82 Yeah, Dude. Fuck all knowledge, fuck democracy & history, authority: fuck everything! Let's just withdraw into a corner of the room and wait for the next tyranny to take hold and throw us in prison, Dude. We gotta survive -- preferably in a bunker, with a few family members and a lot of guns ("civilization" Dude). Natural selection rules, Dude. fuck all power & all the historical victories and gains of working people's movements across the globe. better to be Randroids, i say.

[robertwc82]

@EmmaYaBasta knowledge is good, history is important, authority must be justified (eg. parent child authority) why would i advocate a tyrranical ruling class, thats more aof a marxists M.O. fuck all class.

in Dr Seuss's "The Sneeches" the sneeches with the stars on them were not better than the others just because the ones with the stars claimed they were better. were is their justification for such a claim. Marx requires justification for his erronious claims about class

[Bubblejet64]

@robertwc82 i agree with you. Everybody was made the same, therefore things such as religion and status are just used to fulfill our lives from boredom. Like some say, the world is a dull place if not for what it is today. Then again a place without all that crap i just mentioned above is a better place than a place with violence. We all have no right to justify what is right or wrong because we all don't know what is right or wrong in the first place.

[robertwc82]

@Bubblejet64 ofcourse we know what is right and wrong in the 1st place. causes concious beings unneccessary harm is wrong, right is the opposite. can you not comprehend which is wrong between having someone kill your parents and robb them or not killing your parents and not robbing them?

have you ever felt the emotion of guilt? ever wondered about it?

[Bubblejet64]

@robertwc82 yes, of course. But what i'm saying is that to a person something may seem right to them in their belief but not to another's. Therefore how can a person justify what another person is doing is right when they are just applying what they believe is right? Every person has their own opinions.

[Bubblejet64]

So if a person were to kill someone and rob them because that person tried to do the same to them in the first place, then in a sense it would be wrong to kill and rob them but right to kill them in self defense. But if the person kills and robs randomly, then yes it is wrong. It's in human instinct. There would be a cause for them to kill and rob. Reasons could be to provide food for their own children, to survive, maybe even psychotic mental illness can play a role.

[robertwc82]

@Bubblejet64 is that a matter of opinion or fact? is it a matter of opinion that having sex with 5 year olds is wrong?

you see, even sociopaths know the difference between right and wrong they just dont feel guilt or empathy but they still know the difference between harming others unneccessarily and being kind.

it is not a matter of opinion what is considered unneccessarily harmful to a concious being, it is a matter of fact

[robertwc82]

@Bubblejet64 .....ps....i am talking about harm in the physical sense, hurt feelings dont count

[Bubblejet64]

@robertwc82 Ah yes, sociopaths would know the difference between right and wrong. And i do agree it is a matter of fact rather than opinion. But there would be causes for the crimes committed whether it be mentally related or through other reasons such as revenge.

[robertwc82]

@Bubblejet64 so were does opinion enter into it?

[Bubblejet64]

@robertwc82 In how the crime was committed. A person can say in their own opinion that the murderer was a complete sociopath after examining the crime scene, while in others their opinions can be different through a different perspective. Same crime scene, just different opinions from different perspectives.

[robertwc82]

@Bubblejet64 well ofcourse people have opinions, so what?! peoples opinions are irrelivant. and what difference does it make about the opinions of the mental disorder of the criminal? we arguing whether right or wrong is a matter of opnion.

people are objectively sociopaths, regardless of personal opnion.

certain actions are just and certain actions are unjust, regardless of opnion

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 I Strongly Disagree.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 thats your perogative. but disagreeing refutes nothing

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 do you not belive in the creation of states then?, a national Identity?

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 my "national identity" is a mere accident of birth

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 I don't deny that, we can't choose what country were born into, like you can't choose what family your born into, but do you not feel any sense of 'belonging' to that nation, would you prefer no nation states at all?

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 a nation state is an abstraction in your mind they exist because we all pretend they exist. when to comes to external reality, they do not exist, they are purely conceptual. there are land masses seperated by water, inhabited by individual organisms. i feel no more or less "belonging" to organisms inhabiting the same land mass thousands of miles away as i do to organisms inhabiting a different landmass thousands of miles away.

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 Then clearly you do not belive in a national interest, a group of people bound in some way or other, diverse to those who do not qualify as members of a common consciousness. I however do, and thus can be described as a nationalist, you however (from what you have told me) are not. I think we have a fundermental disagreement, as I understand your opinion, but do not agree.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 i do too, its just that this does not end at the beach but ends at the edge of space, i am part of the society called the human race. my identity is earthling

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 I consider my Identity British before 'eathling' - I get what your saying though..

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 its peretty irrelivant though for describing what kind of person you are, a british person is fundamentally no different from any other european and europeans are fundamentally no different than any other race. being a mongrel of european descent, could i not identify myself as "british", "french", "german and "hebrew" ?

i know someone who is a bit of everything (except american). im not talking to a "brit" i am talking to you, a unique individual unlike anyone else born in you country

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 well I think there is distingwishable cultures

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ofcourse there are, but why is culture relevant to anything?

let me put it another way. fallable mortal creatures will come along wearing speacial hats or have speacial titles and tell you, who your enemies are and who your allies are. they will tell you who to kill and who to obey. but without their speacial hats (such as a crown) or their titles, they are no different to you or i. there power comes from the delusion that they have somekind of virtue which does not exist..........cont

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ....cont..2...i will decide who are my allies and who are my enemies and i will not decide this based on what geographical location a person happens to be in but by the merits and faults of the individual people themselves

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 those 'men in hats' are elected officals working in the best intrests of the country (in theroy of course, I'm not that dilluded!), Democray ensures the will of the people (again in theory) and I am prepared to accept that rule of law, even if I don't always agree. Everyone decides their enemies based on merits and faults or to better describe a person their charachter. However Cultures influence charactures, eg I feel more intuned to the intrests of citizens in the US than France

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 "those 'men in hats' are elected officals" in modern times there is a minority of "elected officials" but it is not limited to them, it also includes, Kings, preists, generals, presidents, Zhas, Pharohs, Lords, emporers ect.

as for "However Cultures influence charactures" can you demonstrate this to be true?

", eg I feel more intuned to the intrests of citizens in the US than France" this is the way you "feel" not the way it is.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 1... "Nationalism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Nationalism involves a strong identification of a group of individuals with a political entity defined in national terms, i.e. a nation. Often, it is the belief that an ethnic group has a right to statehood, or that citizenship in a state should be limited to one ethnic group, or that multinationality in a single state should necessarily comprise the right to express and exercise national identity even by minorities......cont

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ....cont...It can also include the belief that the state is of primary importance, or the belief that one state is naturally superior to all other states. It is also used to describe a movement to establish or protect a homeland (usually an autonomous state) for an ethnic group. In some cases the identification of a national culture is combined with a negative view of other races or cultures.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ..cont3..Conversely, nationalism might also be portrayed as collective identities towards imagined communities which are not naturally expressed in language, race or religion but rather socially constructed by the very individuals that belong to a given nation. Nationalism is sometimes reactionary, calling for a return to a national past, and sometimes for the expulsion of foreigners. ......cont

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ..cont..4..Nationalism emphasizes collective identity - a 'people' must be autonomous, united, and express a single national culture. However, some nationalists stress individualism as an important part of their own national identity.

National flags, national anthems, and other symbols of national identity are often considered sacred, as if they were religious rather than political symbols. Deep emotions are aroused.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 .....cont 5...you have been indoctrinated

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 I have not been indoctrinated, I form my own opinion. What you said below seems fairly accurate, I dont see how any of it makes me somhow 'indoctrinated'

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 what i said doesnt make you indoctrinated. its not an insult, i was too. dd you not sing the national anthem at school? were you not taught to consider the flag sacred?

on the news last night, they said "it just goes to show how strong Queenslanders really are..." like somehow people living in this state are somehow different from other human beings. what is it about the imaginary state borders that makes the organisms within them superior? (rhetorical question) :D

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 ow right I see what you mean, we are all in somway influenced by our background.

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 more like, we blindly accept what we are told as children. its hard wired into us to blindly obey authority as children. if an adult says, dont swim in the river because a crocodile will eat you. the children who test this claim for themselves will probably be eaten. the ones who blindly obey will grow up and breed.

this mechanism can be exploited for brainwashing. "give me the child untill the is 7 and i will give you the man"

an objective mind discards all pressumptions

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 well personnally I feel I swam in the river and made up my mind from that...

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 if you tell a child before the age of 7 you are a X he will believe he is a X. if you say the magic man in the sky watches everything you do, they will believe it.

if you tell them santa claus gets into houses without chimneys because he is magic, they will believe it.

if you say you owe your loyalty to the state they will believe it

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ..2...cont....my obligations to the other organisms do not start and end at geographical borders. and a allegence to a state is just allegence to whatever individual organisms happen to be playing the role of government at the time.

ill choose which individuals i will align myself with based on their individual merits and qualities not just the country they happen to be born in, than you....

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 ...3....cont...do you feel more of a sense of belonging to child molestors born in you country than with a kind honourable person born in another country? i assume you will answer no, so ask yourself "why not?"

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 in reply to this point, - if people like that represented my country at large , I would not feel any sense of pride for my 'state' and thus would not describe myself as nationalist, as I would not feel in anyway linked to it in common national intrests

[robertwc82]

@johnfox3 the only thing you can take pride in is personal acheivment. if you want credit for the personal achievment of others then you should also deserve blame for the faults of others.

no individual represents your country at large. the human beings associating themselves with one abstraction are fundamentally no different from the humans associated with the other abstrations.

all societies consist of an equal proportion of good and bad people. the majority in any society are good

[johnfox3]

@robertwc82 I don't see the issue as 'Good v Bad' rather cultures shared by citizens..

[loz1023]

@robertwc82 i broadly agree but if you watch the century of the self also by curtis you will find that individualism has it's downsides too :(

[GluttonForSex]

@robertwc82 That logic also implies that there is no common humanity for us to appeal to. I don't think anarchy or materialistic individualism will lead to much social justice.

[ComedyNfun]

@robertwc82

that does come from an american who is mixed with many other races and cultures youuu cannot have any patriotism feelings because you arent of any tribe or nationality you are just a product of mixing whores with blacks

[ComedyNfun]

@robertwc82 \

oh no you are australian its almost the same thing

[TheEskimosPantry]

@robertwc82 By living in proximity to certain people you, to some extent tie your fate with theirs. If the people around you are successful that gives you a greater chance of being relatively successful. Aside from geography language is also a marker of social grouping. It is easier for me to communicate with those who share my tongue. Another reason people band together is for security, when attacked people need allies. Now, I think your sentiment is noble but your grasp of human nature..

[odinsmagicstaff1]

@robertwc82 Thus spake the Superman!!, unclouded by irrational rubbish!

[Jtea]

@robertwc82 all of those individuals still form some kind of group.. a super organism maybe.... like ants :) swarm intelligence etc. but anyways, I agree with your assessment.

[fracturedfist]

most psychiatrist really mean well unfortunately they simply do as they where tought.

[Malaka57]

Ever since U-tube changed its appearance, the clips stop suddenly, for no apparent reason?!?!

[robertwc82]

@Malaka57 so its not just me

[antonfjordson]

who killed sgt pepper?

[NinjaVsPredator]

Michael Jackson and the Bee Gees - Deep Meta Joke!

[elpea687]

The Marketts - Balboa Blue, hell yes.

[9407113678]

If you ever wanted proof Psychiatrists are cunts...

[fleeelf]

...go on?

[3optic]

One need simply look up more info on Ewan Cameron..

Of course not all psychiatrists are cunts.

[trajant11]

That would be Donald Ewen-Cameron

[3optic]

Oops! Thanks.

[MCBhangramuffin]

thank you so much for uploading this, I still think it ranks higher than Curtis' later work. Bloody brilliant, especially part 3 about Thatcher & Churchill