Pure art (high art) is created with the purpose of exploring a deep facet of human nature or life. Pure art makes an intangible concept into tangible form. It expresses meaning in way that it has never been used before. Art gives purpose to life; it kindles the light of meaning in the darkness of being. When people say everything is art, then art has no meaning. Low art is all style, but little substance.
yeah that line is true art,actually its a masterpiece,i bet some faggot spent most of his life concentrating and practising to achieve that level of knowledge.I'd buy that piece for a million bucks.
Excellent views put succinctly to the audience with the great finishing words... Do we even have to put a line??? I am an artist and have believed all of this for many years. All are born with the capacity to be creative in some form or other and those who can actually draw should not be deemed to be true artists!!!!
Art is everything. If it has a design, it is art. If it was created by the mind, it is art. Art is everything, you cannot exclude anything from the set ART.
Art just engulfs everything. Even this comment has structure, thus making it art in some indiscrete way.
Also, this "line" is art itself. It shouldn't be a line, it should be a blur. A blur with many colors and shades, gradients and values, textures and emotions, life.
To answer your question at the end, each of us can draw our own line between what "is" and what "is not" art. But as you imply, life itself is art, everything we see and hear and smell and taste and touch is part of it. It comes down to the appreciation of experience, no matter how drab or commonplace something might seem. Life is art, art is life.
Awesome video! I loved the fact that you were so open minded about everything and it made me think differently about art too =) Thanks! & great job on the video!
@lowerbunk yes we DO NEED ONE... in fact we do need very thick bullSHITproove line..Forexample: a stright Line in the video is not an art... it is a technolgy, and blongs to engineers, on the other hand zigzag irriglure line is nither an art nore an engineering ( no matter how long you try call it evelutinary new style art)...My friend it is only a line with Fixed reguller/irrgular( but fixed) change(esmaller elemnts) which is art.....wich creats a music.
thanks, good video. u have the source of music starting at 3:00? u ask a good question. I am rude enough to try to answer. how about this: art is what is intended and/or perceived as art? art is a setting of mind, not a quality of any object, but of perception.
@klo2ver Thanks for the comment. With regards to the music, I don't have the title of the song. All of the music I used was found in a royalty free music library I had available to me as a student.
That video was very cool and interesting. It's given me a lot to think about. I agree that anything can be art, but I think pieces with certain qualities are more interesting than others.
i found your video while doing some research for my art appreciation class. thank you very much. i found the experience to be informative, humorous, and well put together. you don't, by any chance, have in production a video that will help with my english comp1 class do you?
@apholmes1 Glad you enjoyed it. I wish I could help you with your English class but I, unfortunately, don't have any videos that would do you any good. But good luck.
hey i have question how do you know if you a real artist or not i do draw and and but i am actually questioning myself if i would like a comment from just asking not trying to be rude can u make a video response thank if u do
@skullgas7000 You raise a good question. I've never actually thought about that. Let me chew on it for a while and get back to you. I'm sure someone on here might be able to give your their response in the meantime.
In 1480, Leonardo da Vinci produced the world's first, and only, visual musical equivalent. This is what enabled art to acquire the title of "Art." This visual music contains a mathematical syntax. Experiencing of this syntax requires a developed cognitive capability. A prerequisite to this is a person's ability to cognize "space." We can actually "see" this ability degenerating from 1480 to 1880, with the introduction of Picasso, and the elimination of "intelligence" in and of "Art."
@shara777 I am, in all entity, agreed with you. Emotional or intellectual response to be exact however. I too think there is a great line between art and not and I am very happy to see someone agreeing with me! Cheers!
i would like it more if there would that line. cause sometimes, u just feel like saying: this peace of crap music is not an art, that kid just sings whatever drugs tells to, but this singer, is really singing from a heart, now this is an art..
so yah, because of arguments like these to be right, i would like to see that line.
It doesnt make sense because if i took a butterfly wing, held it in my hand, and showed to you, would you call it art? It wasnt created by human creativity or imagination, it is something that naturally occurs. But when i tilt the wing slightly in my hand, that required some imagination to do! So, because it uses human creativity and imagination, it instantly becomes art simply by tilting it! That makes no freaking sense!
I dislike the idea that everything is art, because even though everything around is an expression of creativity, who's to say that that tree outside my window isn't art? someone didnt create that, so you cant define it as art, it wasnt created by a person. But still people say that "everything is art". That is ilogical.
In my opinion it doesn´t matter what is art. It matters which art is really good and worth of value. Because nowdays they worship arts that are really CRAP.
thanks for this. this is really an excellent video. Thought your conclusion was very insightful. The idea of art as simply the framing of life intrigues me. This video reminds me of John Cage's words: "When we seperate music from life we get art".
Also, just to throw in another quote. Here is George Maciunas' take on it:
"If man could experience the world, the concrete world surrounding him, the same way he experiences art, there would be no need for art".
Art is a conceptual box that we draw around free creativity that exists for itself. But even this idea itself is only a rationalization for people who need to be told how to look at things. An artist with any presence of mind will realize that the art he does is no different than the art a child does, or a tree, or a rock just sitting there. In short no, there is no line.
art is just, .... undefinable. when you go to a gallery, see a lady sitting absolutely still on a chair and everyone considers that art, you just remain silent, your mind becomes blank, you dont know what to say, you cant define it, that's art
@lowerbunk to define art the first step is differentiate art from aestetics, for wich of course you need to define aestetics, wich is usaly seen as "what is pretty or enjoyable for the senses", after that point is where the subject becomes very subjective , for me a masterpiece has to succesfully transmit the emotions the artist was feeling to a syntonized spectator,like the monalisa where you just cant read her or pink floys music that transmit so well anxiety other feelings
@lowerbunk I think that as hard as art is to define,just to stay in the sate that art cant be defined in anyway is just closing your minds, as hard as it is we should at least try to define some properies of it or make some kind of first linguistic aproach to try to have an overview on what it implies, for example i can state for sure that art is in fact to creativity,feelings,expression , or state that mozart music is not only art but a masterpiece of art and most ppl would agree, char limit...
@lowerbunk Sir, I do not want to appear aggressive, nor do I want to show off, but I really didn't like your video. If you are willing, I will explain you why here so everyone can see and follow our debate. I do think that we have to draw a line. As I see it, art, in it's pure essence, is a creative product or process that stimulates emotions or thoughs. Find me one work of art that doesn't stimulate nor emotions nor thoughs... Then, tell me how a chair stimulates emotions... RSVP
In order for something to be considered art, it must first look good. In recent years the definition of art has been challenged too much, too often, until some consider almost everything art. Art is not something everyone can create. Art requires technique, and years of practice. True art makes someone go 'WOW' and not 'hmm... this is interesting". True art is beautiful.
@asdfkie I'm still stuck on the definition of good. Who decides what is good and what isnt? I know what I like, but I am pretty sure it's different than what you like. For example, I think a piece that makes me go "hmm, this is interesting" is just as valid as a work of art as a piece that makes me go "WOW". Sometimes a work of art doesn't make someone go "WOW" but after you've left the gallery, you're on your way home, you're still thinking about it. How is that any less successful than the WOW
@asdfkie Haven't you ever heard the phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder?" What you may think looks good, others might not, and vice versa. Who are you to determine whether something looks good or beautiful? "True art?" True art is anything that anybody considers true art.
@asdfkie What part of my comment do you disagree with? Don't you agree that one person can find something beautiful while another can think the same thing is ugly?
Art should be a recreated representation of something, a personal response that has taken time and dedication, that actually LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING. At university they say "Eveything can be art" But in my opinion, if everything is art, surely nothing is? I hate what the art world has become, the artists with actual talent would weep if they knew what was considered as art in the modern world. I went to the Tate Modern today, some of the 'art' is a joke, and these so-called artists are laughing.
@xxxAngelsWingsxxx I totally agree with you, and I'm glad you share this perspective. I'm 16 and I've been doing art since I was 6, and I'm where I am now because of the practice I've put in over the years. I'm tired of seeing works that require little effort and no technique sell for millions while truly talented painters are relegated to the streets, trying to earn spare change, selling their paintings for prices lower than the paint and canvas. Not everything is art.
@asdfkie I will agree with you that not everything is art, but I will say that anything can be art. I know a lot of people disagree with me on that but I'm always drawn back to the one thing I am 100% sure about when it comes to art, it is all subjective. The saying "One person's trash is another person's treasure" is true with art as well as many other things in our lives.
And it is sad that there are a lot of very talented artists that don't get the respect they deserve.
@xxxAngelsWingsxxx I can't speak for other people, especially those that aren't around anymore, but I have to disagree with you that art must look like something. For one, we have art forms that are not visual, which will obviously not look like anything since you can't actually see them. But, even with visual arts I feel as though being representational isn't necessary.
Just wanted to quickly say thanks to everyone who has been commenting and keeping this conversation going. When I made this video roughly four years ago, I was a Mass Communication major. I made this video as a project in a video editing class. I had no idea it would stir up such a great discussion. Since this video was made, I graduated with the Mass Comm degree but have returned to school as a fine art student focusing on photography and I'm happy to say I still can not answer this question.
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I'm a third year Fine Art student and still don't know what the hell is Art. everytime I think Art is this, Art is that, the exact opposite thing of those definition can also be considered as Art. well, the hell with it.
the definition of art is something that has been created , that's effective and needs to have effort put In, a picture is art , it's been created , it's had the effort of taking it put in , it's effective , even the words you said , that was art . and the words you used would be a great speech .
Thank you for making this video. I'm in A.P. Art and today was talking with some of my classmates about my senior project and I want to do animation. To my surprise and irritation some of them said that animation is not art or that it's not "fine" art. I was like WTF?! Then I asked "What is fine art?" Then they said "Well, like paintings and stuff." It's so sad that some people's view of art is so limited. Why should we hold some forms of self-expression above others?
@Latas33007 Thank you for pointing that out. I'm not entirely sure what was going through my mind when I made this video several years ago that caused me to skip over the written word. I will go on record here saying that it was not done because I feel it isn't art, but simply because I'm imperfect and somehow forgot.
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Marcel Duchamp's piece 'Fountain' from 1917 (the Urinal) was a big separation from traditional art and helped move the ideals of the abstract art movements. Before the advent of the camera, art usually attempted to mimic life and reality. It took visionaries like Duchamp to point out that Art is truely about emotion, the senses, and the intellect. Being an Art teacher myself, I like the video because it opens up the realm of discussion about what art is. Art like life changes constantly.
@lordayers Thank you for clearing up some things about the 'Fountain' or the urinal as we've been referring to it. I was not aware of the story behind it.
so exactly what is the difference between the Mona Lisa and the urinal. If the urinal is indeed art then i believe your insulting the Mona Lisa because you are comparing her to a urinal. Art has to be created by an artist. Though i agree there are many different forms of artists, art can not be ANYTHING. Because if anything is art then nothing is art.
@otorinolaringologia But that brings me back to drawing the line between what is and isn't art. What I deem to be art is going to be different than what you deem to be art. I guess my point is that art is such a subjective thing that I don't feel there will ever be a general agreement on where to draw the line between art and everything else. Every individual draws that line but their line only applies to them.
@lowerbunk you do have a valid point, but it bothers me non the less. I hate that definition because it gives people an excuse to simply make a mold of a urinal and sell it for thousands of dollars and call it art. How can you possibly call the man that made a mold of a bloody urinal an artist. I feel its insulting to great artists like Caravaggio, and Picasso who were truly amazing. A title that is suppose to be of great respect is being taken by random people with no creativity.
@otorinolaringologia I completely understand how that can bother you. I think it says something though when an artist and their work can stand the test of time. I'm going to assume that a hundred or more years from now, the guy who made the mold of a urinal won't be a commonly known name like Picasso or Caravaggio. Especially considering I don't even know what his/her name is today.
@lowerbunk " the guy who made the mold of a urinal won't be a commonly known name like Picasso or Caravaggio." By the way, the artist of that work (its not a mold) is famous. That you don't know his name or that others don't just means you aren't knowledgeable. Popularity is not a requirement for art. Most of the population aren't aware of many artists. The ego and self obsessed views in such statements is ludicrous.
@jdbohdan I'm sorry I don't know the name of the artist responsible for the urinal piece. You are right that popularity isn't a requirement for art and I know a lot of great artists that create for the sake of creating and couldn't care less if anyone actually looked at their work. I'm not here to say this artist is better than that one, but if we're still studying and talking about an artist and their work hundreds of years after their death, they were probably doing something right.
@jdbohdan The point of this video wasn't to answer any questions. It was meant to ask questions and continue a discussion that has been going on probably since people first started making art.
@jdbohdan So are you saying we should stop asking the question? Because to me, constantly asking questions is the only way to obtain knowledge. I asked the question because I wanted to learn the opinions of other people. As of now, there are roughly 180 comments on this video. If people stop asking questions simply because there doesn't seem to be an answer, we fail to advance as a culture and society.
@lowerbunk No, if it helps you that's great. But it doesn't make sense to me. To say the line is art and then ask the question. How can you define something and then claim not to know the definition?
@jdbohdan Well the definition I give, which isn't mine, simply a common one that I found, uses terms that are just as subjective as art. Which was kind of what I was trying to get at with the video.
I wouldn't go as far as to say art is 'everything,' but it's definitely all around us. Many of us take it all for granted too. Our homes and cities are designed, our fashions are designed, our languages are designed, our fictional stories are designed, our music is designed, our television shows and movies are designed, our sports are designed, our technology is designed, etc, etc, etc. Without art, most of the 'human world' as we know it wouldn't even exist.
I had an art teacher once tell our class, "We artists make up about 1% of the entire population, yet we change the world more than anyone else." When you give it some thought, it's a very true statement.
@sidereally I do believe it has value. I think it has a great deal of value. The problem with drawing a line is that my line will be different than your line, which will also be different from every other line that every any other person draws.
@lowerbunk Your statement, like many others make, are made under false assumptions. One of them being art has no rules. You are wrong. You also assume all individuals are capable of making the distinction and identifying what is art. That is wrong too.
@jdbohdan But even those "rules" vary from one culture to another and from one time period to another. My point is that art and, more importantly, those who define what art is and isn't are constantly changing. So even if society somehow came to an agreement as to what art is today and drew that line, tomorrow things will be different and the line would need to be moved to reflect that.
Art is media, therefor everything can be art: therefor the question should be: what is culture?
Culture is the number of people who value the media: At the hight of there popularity the Beatles, Michael Jackson and Radiohead where all more popular then Bach or Sinatra, but after a period the lost most of there listeners while Bach and Sinatra kept some of there listeners: The sum total of people who value media throughout times, can explain what is culture and what is not.
Art is what you want art to be. I look outside every dark dim morning and see a masterpiece. I look at my table, the craftsmenship is art. Every Winter I see a blank canvas. Every poem, picture, and object is art, but only if you see it as art. Most people look at a chair and say that it's just a chair, it takes a true artist to look at a chair and talk about what the chair could be.
There are different kinds of art, which appeals to different kinds of people. Everything is art if you put your mind to it. I don't always believe everything is beautiful. For an example, a man who tied a dog to a corner and starved it to death, called that art. I don't believe it's art, though he has gotten paid to do it again, and again, because it's considered art.
crazy......even intelligent men do not know what Art is....once you know what art is,,, you are able to discern what is art and what it is not,,,,,,you can compere it to the fine line between, madness, and genius.
I show "art" emails that people send me to my art classes. The question I pose is..."Is This Art?" I am very excited to show them your video! It was very well done with so many examples. Thanks for having a creative mind!
Was this video Art? My Graphic Arts students would say "Yes". :-)
Fantastic video! Art, in most cases is ubiquitous. Science is not art. when taken out of context, it is, if you understand my meaning. I think that graphs can be considered art if someone thinks it can be. It is artistic to frame a complex graph, or take a picture looking through a volumetric flask. I was going to say that pop art is not art because it is merely a way of seeling something useless, but so are clothes, chairs, fast-food restaurants, and the like. someone created them.
@AduroNoctis one could also say, art is entirely a reflection of oneself. if one can see truth and meaning in an object, or discover how others can see truth and meaning, then one could call that object "art"
@jeng3000 is a common, say, salt shaker you see in a diner art? it's functional, it utilitarian, it may even have an element or two of design, but it is not art, was never intended to be. If some shmuck considers art and moves it to a place of reverence that does not make it art. What that makes it is like by one person who calls it art, but it is not art. The urinal is not art no matter where you put it, the make was not looking for that acclaim. By your definition ANYTHING can be called art.
I find that the author Henry James provided society -- which demands qualifiers for everything it seems -- with questions that can help some people determine whether something is good art. These are his three questions, in a nutshell:
1. what was the artist's intent?
2. did the artist succeed?
3. was it worth it?
When you look at art, think about those three questions. If you can answer the questions, then the work is art, and the 3rd question will determine how you value it.
Funny, I just created a What Is Art video for grade 1 using a little mini-book I found in our school library, and once I u[load I see your movie. I can show this to the older kids I work with - so - thanks! great job!
Your fundamental question is the "Artist and Critic" debate. The simple chair in your slide show would not be considered art because the designer has not said that it is. There is therefore no critical comment you can make and the designer is not interested in your critique. Same chair just put on a dais is still not art. The mere act of raising and isolating it does not make it art, just changes it location. Now if someone did anything to it then it could be considered art (found object) .
@HarshawJ Actually taking something out of its normal context and putting into a different context can be art. That was the whole thing about Duchamp taking R. Mutt's designed urinal and putting it in a gallery. He thought it deserved to be called art.
Art is something done so well that it expands our consiousness. Art makes us think and evokes the human spirit. Everything else that is seen as functional generaly is not art.
@InTheLifeOfAnArtist "so well"? So if someone draws a person not as well as you think would be considered "so well", then it's not art? What about kid's drawings? Not art? Even if someone sits down and works on drawing, but it's not "that good", then it's not art?
Something is art if it has prompts an emotion, a memory or a discussion, so many people may hate the idea of a urinal, but if someone walks into a gallery and laughs instantly the artist is fulfilled.
sure you can put a urinal in an art gallery and call it art. why not? the real question is whether or not it's good art, and if people say they like it better than an amazing painting because that's how they actually feel or whether they're just saying it because they think somehow they're being 'open-minded' and 'edgy' when, in reality they're just being pretentious pricks.
-art does not have to be creative in my opinion. As long as it's thought, it is art. As long as it surprises, shocks, reassures (or any other reaction, or even none if the goal of the piece of art is to have no reaction), the idea is no longer only yours but also becomes universal. -Art is immortal and completes the creator. So can art be the traces/works of a man that will always remain in the world even if that person dies? I think art can be seen that way..
-but then if it's someone who creates something (and that thing is the idea of someone else, which means that the guy making the thing creates "like a machine") if that person creates without putting any reflexion in the work, then I wouldn't call that art. But if that person creates (even if he creates 100 of the same things) and puts his mind/heart/reflexion/conscience in them, then I'd call these objects art (for these people)
now I'm not saying it's this, but in my opinion, art can be:
-the exteriorizing of an idea so that it reaches one of our five senses (so it suggests that it is something created)
-but then if something created is considered art, does it mean that a thousand same pens created by a machine is art? For me, no, cause it's a machine that is doing the work to create...but for the one who had the idea to create a pen, the production of the pen is art.
now that i think about it actually, the video states that the definition of art is: the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. I agree with this definition, but only to a certain extent. with this said my personal definition of art is: what one determines and interprets as the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. in others words, art is one of those things that is different to everyone, there is never an exact definition to the word, much like what i said about life
@dbarii Now, just because we don't like something it doesn't mean is not art. I guess the creativeness of the artist will tell how much the piece would be liked and of course how well he uses his tools.
@dbarii There are some art pieces I don't agree with, but yet I see how it could be art. I used to work at Santa Monica and there was an abandoned building were an artist decided to create a live size paper mache sculpture where a man was hanging by its testicles
@dbarii So even though it was offensive to some, it was
nonetheless a piece of art cause stimulated peoples feelings and ideas, it had creativity and the artist also mastered his tools because I saw it and it was very well made. I believe that if 2 artist have the same amount of creativity but one is better at using his tools, then that artist will have a better chance at being more popular.
also if anyone disagrees with my comment below then please debate it with me, im hungry for knowledge and want to learn. so if u find illogical things in my comment then please tell me and explain. thank you all :)
@dbarii I dont disagree with your thoughts and this is how I see art: Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use
to me, this is like asking the question: what is the meaning of life? its an unanswerable question, much like: what is art? u cant say everything is art because that would be contradictory with the fact that if u called everything art then art itself wouldn't exist. i could spit on the ground with no meaning or feeling and call it art and it would be true, because everything would be art, right? i think instead of questioning art, just create and be creative, dont question life, just live
@dbarii agree with u but not with lowerbunk as I feel that not anything could b art. The artist that made that artistic urinal had a point he was trying to get across unlike the urinals u find in most restaurants that are only trying to serve the purpose of retrieving ur urine and not trying to get a point across or stimulate any kind of feeling or idea. That line in the beginning is not art unless it communicated something through its title, cause a line does not express anything
Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use
You are using Aristotels final causation here to determine art. If you use this for everything, then it would take you to belive that the world, plants, rocks, stars, are made by someone: God. Therefor, even those thinks that man never imagined are still art. So: Do we need to draw the line? Yes, for the concept itselff to be understodd it would need another concept (lines drawn) to be diferentiated from.
It's different for everyone, but people have a line drawn or art means nothing to them.
If everything is art, then nothing is art.
If everything is special, nothing is special.
Like if every other person on earth is your friend on facebook, what exactly is a facebook friend worth to you? Discrimination is part of the equation.
My idea of art and yours may be different, since if we both care about art we will likely disagree.
Someone with imagination that can explain it's meaning of existing is an artist.
10Slutts 3 weeks ago
Nothing is art unless u giv it meaning and emotion
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ProjectLimo 1 month ago
Pure art (high art) is created with the purpose of exploring a deep facet of human nature or life. Pure art makes an intangible concept into tangible form. It expresses meaning in way that it has never been used before. Art gives purpose to life; it kindles the light of meaning in the darkness of being. When people say everything is art, then art has no meaning. Low art is all style, but little substance.
DarthSalsaPants23 1 month ago
If everything is art then nothing is art.
ChillOutMaann 1 month ago
yeah that line is true art,actually its a masterpiece,i bet some faggot spent most of his life concentrating and practising to achieve that level of knowledge.I'd buy that piece for a million bucks.
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MrMonologic 2 months ago
Art is an explosion hmm
DeidaraGR 2 months ago 2
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darthkra 2 months ago
well done
RedKruzer 3 months ago
This video is an art ;)
Tnx.
There will be a serious thinking tonight. :)
gutija 3 months ago
Excellent views put succinctly to the audience with the great finishing words... Do we even have to put a line??? I am an artist and have believed all of this for many years. All are born with the capacity to be creative in some form or other and those who can actually draw should not be deemed to be true artists!!!!
TheJillyjop 3 months ago
whats the son at 3:56
Bonzazaz 3 months ago
child pornography is not art... I would say a line gets drawn somewhere
labay42 3 months ago
Art is everything, cause everything inspires something within you.
a gray rock inspires something even, boredom, conformity, dullness.
thats what I think anyway.
Fiddlewheel 3 months ago
Of course there is a line, otherwise me taking a picture of the dump I take would be counted as art too? >.>
lolzwtfifym 4 months ago
@lolzwtfifym yes, not saying it would be 'good' art, not that theres any point putting art in to good/bad
liamjd1 3 months ago
How is art?
MrRichgumy 4 months ago
What... what is art?
Art is everything. If it has a design, it is art. If it was created by the mind, it is art. Art is everything, you cannot exclude anything from the set ART.
Art just engulfs everything. Even this comment has structure, thus making it art in some indiscrete way.
TheBetterGamer 4 months ago
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Also, this "line" is art itself. It shouldn't be a line, it should be a blur. A blur with many colors and shades, gradients and values, textures and emotions, life.
TheBetterGamer 4 months ago
Excellent video.
To answer your question at the end, each of us can draw our own line between what "is" and what "is not" art. But as you imply, life itself is art, everything we see and hear and smell and taste and touch is part of it. It comes down to the appreciation of experience, no matter how drab or commonplace something might seem. Life is art, art is life.
corkbender 4 months ago
Awesome video! I loved the fact that you were so open minded about everything and it made me think differently about art too =) Thanks! & great job on the video!
JessRz0 4 months ago
@JessRz0 Glad you enjoyed it.
lowerbunk 4 months ago
@lowerbunk yes we DO NEED ONE... in fact we do need very thick bullSHITproove line..Forexample: a stright Line in the video is not an art... it is a technolgy, and blongs to engineers, on the other hand zigzag irriglure line is nither an art nore an engineering ( no matter how long you try call it evelutinary new style art)...My friend it is only a line with Fixed reguller/irrgular( but fixed) change(esmaller elemnts) which is art.....wich creats a music.
TAXILA76 5 days ago
@lowerbunk If the theory in the video is true then everyone is an artist and those who call them selfs an artist should go for Taxi driving Job.
Pls read more abt my opnion if you like at my website..
(.)3dimpressionism(.)com
Thank you 4 the nice video.
TAXILA76 5 days ago
thanks, good video. u have the source of music starting at 3:00? u ask a good question. I am rude enough to try to answer. how about this: art is what is intended and/or perceived as art? art is a setting of mind, not a quality of any object, but of perception.
klo2ver 4 months ago
@klo2ver Thanks for the comment. With regards to the music, I don't have the title of the song. All of the music I used was found in a royalty free music library I had available to me as a student.
lowerbunk 4 months ago
That video was very cool and interesting. It's given me a lot to think about. I agree that anything can be art, but I think pieces with certain qualities are more interesting than others.
ZozRed 5 months ago
@ZozRed Glad you enjoyed it.
lowerbunk 5 months ago
i found your video while doing some research for my art appreciation class. thank you very much. i found the experience to be informative, humorous, and well put together. you don't, by any chance, have in production a video that will help with my english comp1 class do you?
apholmes1 5 months ago
@apholmes1 Glad you enjoyed it. I wish I could help you with your English class but I, unfortunately, don't have any videos that would do you any good. But good luck.
lowerbunk 5 months ago
hey i have question how do you know if you a real artist or not i do draw and and but i am actually questioning myself if i would like a comment from just asking not trying to be rude can u make a video response thank if u do
skullgas7000 5 months ago
@skullgas7000 You raise a good question. I've never actually thought about that. Let me chew on it for a while and get back to you. I'm sure someone on here might be able to give your their response in the meantime.
lowerbunk 5 months ago
Art is everything. like people fell in love, i think is art. Just think about it. is take a while to know what is art.
RainbowAteZombie 6 months ago
I like that line. It's like a Barnett Newman fell over.
WispierTetrahedrons 6 months ago
In 1480, Leonardo da Vinci produced the world's first, and only, visual musical equivalent. This is what enabled art to acquire the title of "Art." This visual music contains a mathematical syntax. Experiencing of this syntax requires a developed cognitive capability. A prerequisite to this is a person's ability to cognize "space." We can actually "see" this ability degenerating from 1480 to 1880, with the introduction of Picasso, and the elimination of "intelligence" in and of "Art."
MrMikeludo 7 months ago
art is something that was created by a human intending to invoke an emotional response by another human and requires effort to create.
shara777 7 months ago
@shara777 I am, in all entity, agreed with you. Emotional or intellectual response to be exact however. I too think there is a great line between art and not and I am very happy to see someone agreeing with me! Cheers!
PkrBarMovie 7 months ago
i would like it more if there would that line. cause sometimes, u just feel like saying: this peace of crap music is not an art, that kid just sings whatever drugs tells to, but this singer, is really singing from a heart, now this is an art..
so yah, because of arguments like these to be right, i would like to see that line.
MultiTail 8 months ago
Awesome point of view :D! Oh, and, I toooootally disagree with @the007fossil , depending on the way you see things, everything is art, just face it.
pll15 8 months ago
It doesnt make sense because if i took a butterfly wing, held it in my hand, and showed to you, would you call it art? It wasnt created by human creativity or imagination, it is something that naturally occurs. But when i tilt the wing slightly in my hand, that required some imagination to do! So, because it uses human creativity and imagination, it instantly becomes art simply by tilting it! That makes no freaking sense!
The007Fossil 8 months ago
I dislike the idea that everything is art, because even though everything around is an expression of creativity, who's to say that that tree outside my window isn't art? someone didnt create that, so you cant define it as art, it wasnt created by a person. But still people say that "everything is art". That is ilogical.
The007Fossil 8 months ago
@The007Fossil Nature technically did.
Dollreviewz155 6 months ago
In my opinion it doesn´t matter what is art. It matters which art is really good and worth of value. Because nowdays they worship arts that are really CRAP.
CanalTal 8 months ago
nice vid....!!!1
friendlydocTV 9 months ago
thanks for this. this is really an excellent video. Thought your conclusion was very insightful. The idea of art as simply the framing of life intrigues me. This video reminds me of John Cage's words: "When we seperate music from life we get art".
Also, just to throw in another quote. Here is George Maciunas' take on it:
"If man could experience the world, the concrete world surrounding him, the same way he experiences art, there would be no need for art".
mrmike9959 9 months ago
VERY good and entertaining production ! ! !
chiparoo222 9 months ago
I think everything is art. (including this sentence) But that's just my opinion. I know most people disagree with me.
papajoey 9 months ago
Art is a filthy whore, conceived by crap mongers and built by douche-boxes for self righteous corn pullers so they can suck wood turds.
buildpro621 9 months ago
Art is a conceptual box that we draw around free creativity that exists for itself. But even this idea itself is only a rationalization for people who need to be told how to look at things. An artist with any presence of mind will realize that the art he does is no different than the art a child does, or a tree, or a rock just sitting there. In short no, there is no line.
k1llk1ngph30n1x 9 months ago
art is just, .... undefinable. when you go to a gallery, see a lady sitting absolutely still on a chair and everyone considers that art, you just remain silent, your mind becomes blank, you dont know what to say, you cant define it, that's art
slamboyj1 9 months ago 9
@slamboyj1 I couldn't agree more.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@slamboyj1 To be an artist is to be a master of the visual world, that is, to be able to use images as an author would use words.
MyTheDarkKnight 3 months ago
defining art is complicated, however , watch my videos to know what classic art and baroque art realy are, and even more cool stuff!
smutery 9 months ago
@smutery It is complicated. I'm fairly sure people have been debating it since they have been capable of debating.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@lowerbunk to define art the first step is differentiate art from aestetics, for wich of course you need to define aestetics, wich is usaly seen as "what is pretty or enjoyable for the senses", after that point is where the subject becomes very subjective , for me a masterpiece has to succesfully transmit the emotions the artist was feeling to a syntonized spectator,like the monalisa where you just cant read her or pink floys music that transmit so well anxiety other feelings
smutery 9 months ago
@lowerbunk I think that as hard as art is to define,just to stay in the sate that art cant be defined in anyway is just closing your minds, as hard as it is we should at least try to define some properies of it or make some kind of first linguistic aproach to try to have an overview on what it implies, for example i can state for sure that art is in fact to creativity,feelings,expression , or state that mozart music is not only art but a masterpiece of art and most ppl would agree, char limit...
smutery 9 months ago
This video is art.
I love your views.
Obviously this is a controversial subject but you impress me
innocence2216 9 months ago
@innocence2216 Thank you. I'm glad I impress someone.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@lowerbunk Sir, I do not want to appear aggressive, nor do I want to show off, but I really didn't like your video. If you are willing, I will explain you why here so everyone can see and follow our debate. I do think that we have to draw a line. As I see it, art, in it's pure essence, is a creative product or process that stimulates emotions or thoughs. Find me one work of art that doesn't stimulate nor emotions nor thoughs... Then, tell me how a chair stimulates emotions... RSVP
PkrBarMovie 7 months ago
Why does something being art mean that I should be sitting down staring at it? That doesn't answer the question you proposed at the beginning...
theJacobPatterson 9 months ago
@theJacobPatterson I never intended to answer the question at the beginning. I not even sure the question can be answered.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@lowerbunk I believe it can.
theJacobPatterson 9 months ago
Art is anything you want art to be.
theittime 10 months ago
@theittime And that's where art gets into trouble. Just because I want something to be art, doesn't mean everyone else does.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
your line is art!
ohmynutella 10 months ago
@ohmynutella Yeah, some would say it is.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
andy warhol was right art is anything you can get away with!
robertrobin10 10 months ago
@robertrobin10 So true.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
In order for something to be considered art, it must first look good. In recent years the definition of art has been challenged too much, too often, until some consider almost everything art. Art is not something everyone can create. Art requires technique, and years of practice. True art makes someone go 'WOW' and not 'hmm... this is interesting". True art is beautiful.
asdfkie 11 months ago 7
@asdfkie I'm still stuck on the definition of good. Who decides what is good and what isnt? I know what I like, but I am pretty sure it's different than what you like. For example, I think a piece that makes me go "hmm, this is interesting" is just as valid as a work of art as a piece that makes me go "WOW". Sometimes a work of art doesn't make someone go "WOW" but after you've left the gallery, you're on your way home, you're still thinking about it. How is that any less successful than the WOW
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@asdfkie What looks good and what doesn't look good is determined purely by our genetic code. Beauty is genetic.
MyTheDarkKnight 3 months ago
@asdfkie Haven't you ever heard the phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder?" What you may think looks good, others might not, and vice versa. Who are you to determine whether something looks good or beautiful? "True art?" True art is anything that anybody considers true art.
MicahTheZombie 1 month ago
@MicahTheZombie it is because of idiots like you that art has become so screwed up. eat shit and repent.
asdfkie 1 month ago
@asdfkie What part of my comment do you disagree with? Don't you agree that one person can find something beautiful while another can think the same thing is ugly?
MicahTheZombie 1 month ago
Art should be a recreated representation of something, a personal response that has taken time and dedication, that actually LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING. At university they say "Eveything can be art" But in my opinion, if everything is art, surely nothing is? I hate what the art world has become, the artists with actual talent would weep if they knew what was considered as art in the modern world. I went to the Tate Modern today, some of the 'art' is a joke, and these so-called artists are laughing.
xxxAngelsWingsxxx 11 months ago
@xxxAngelsWingsxxx I totally agree with you, and I'm glad you share this perspective. I'm 16 and I've been doing art since I was 6, and I'm where I am now because of the practice I've put in over the years. I'm tired of seeing works that require little effort and no technique sell for millions while truly talented painters are relegated to the streets, trying to earn spare change, selling their paintings for prices lower than the paint and canvas. Not everything is art.
asdfkie 11 months ago
@asdfkie I will agree with you that not everything is art, but I will say that anything can be art. I know a lot of people disagree with me on that but I'm always drawn back to the one thing I am 100% sure about when it comes to art, it is all subjective. The saying "One person's trash is another person's treasure" is true with art as well as many other things in our lives.
And it is sad that there are a lot of very talented artists that don't get the respect they deserve.
lowerbunk 9 months ago
@xxxAngelsWingsxxx I can't speak for other people, especially those that aren't around anymore, but I have to disagree with you that art must look like something. For one, we have art forms that are not visual, which will obviously not look like anything since you can't actually see them. But, even with visual arts I feel as though being representational isn't necessary.
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Zimonias 11 months ago
Just wanted to quickly say thanks to everyone who has been commenting and keeping this conversation going. When I made this video roughly four years ago, I was a Mass Communication major. I made this video as a project in a video editing class. I had no idea it would stir up such a great discussion. Since this video was made, I graduated with the Mass Comm degree but have returned to school as a fine art student focusing on photography and I'm happy to say I still can not answer this question.
lowerbunk 11 months ago
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CaminandoporRosario 11 months ago
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CaminandoporRosario 11 months ago
Art = Empathy-Compassion
Opposite of Art = Apathy-Resentment
DarkGreen2000 1 year ago
I'm a third year Fine Art student and still don't know what the hell is Art. everytime I think Art is this, Art is that, the exact opposite thing of those definition can also be considered as Art. well, the hell with it.
rahxun 1 year ago
the definition of art is something that has been created , that's effective and needs to have effort put In, a picture is art , it's been created , it's had the effort of taking it put in , it's effective , even the words you said , that was art . and the words you used would be a great speech .
hotstuffbabe15 1 year ago
to be art it must move you
jewels396 1 year ago
Imagine that. Share it.
lencho234 1 year ago
well, Kandinsky always though that art was a spiritual movement that let the soul express it's rhythm in space.
therealblkraptor 1 year ago
We are all just god's imagination.
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LAURELDIANEify 1 year ago
Thank you for making this video. I'm in A.P. Art and today was talking with some of my classmates about my senior project and I want to do animation. To my surprise and irritation some of them said that animation is not art or that it's not "fine" art. I was like WTF?! Then I asked "What is fine art?" Then they said "Well, like paintings and stuff." It's so sad that some people's view of art is so limited. Why should we hold some forms of self-expression above others?
bistokidsfan 1 year ago
If it has a ridiculous price tag, it's probably art.
LastKissGoodbye 1 year ago
The written word is not included as Art. That is a shame.
Latas33007 1 year ago
@Latas33007 Thank you for pointing that out. I'm not entirely sure what was going through my mind when I made this video several years ago that caused me to skip over the written word. I will go on record here saying that it was not done because I feel it isn't art, but simply because I'm imperfect and somehow forgot.
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CaminandoporRosario 11 months ago
Marcel Duchamp's piece 'Fountain' from 1917 (the Urinal) was a big separation from traditional art and helped move the ideals of the abstract art movements. Before the advent of the camera, art usually attempted to mimic life and reality. It took visionaries like Duchamp to point out that Art is truely about emotion, the senses, and the intellect. Being an Art teacher myself, I like the video because it opens up the realm of discussion about what art is. Art like life changes constantly.
lordayers 1 year ago 2
@lordayers Thank you for clearing up some things about the 'Fountain' or the urinal as we've been referring to it. I was not aware of the story behind it.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
so exactly what is the difference between the Mona Lisa and the urinal. If the urinal is indeed art then i believe your insulting the Mona Lisa because you are comparing her to a urinal. Art has to be created by an artist. Though i agree there are many different forms of artists, art can not be ANYTHING. Because if anything is art then nothing is art.
otorinolaringologia 1 year ago
@otorinolaringologia But that brings me back to drawing the line between what is and isn't art. What I deem to be art is going to be different than what you deem to be art. I guess my point is that art is such a subjective thing that I don't feel there will ever be a general agreement on where to draw the line between art and everything else. Every individual draws that line but their line only applies to them.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk you do have a valid point, but it bothers me non the less. I hate that definition because it gives people an excuse to simply make a mold of a urinal and sell it for thousands of dollars and call it art. How can you possibly call the man that made a mold of a bloody urinal an artist. I feel its insulting to great artists like Caravaggio, and Picasso who were truly amazing. A title that is suppose to be of great respect is being taken by random people with no creativity.
otorinolaringologia 1 year ago
@otorinolaringologia I completely understand how that can bother you. I think it says something though when an artist and their work can stand the test of time. I'm going to assume that a hundred or more years from now, the guy who made the mold of a urinal won't be a commonly known name like Picasso or Caravaggio. Especially considering I don't even know what his/her name is today.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk hmmm. Ah i like that notion.
otorinolaringologia 1 year ago
@lowerbunk " the guy who made the mold of a urinal won't be a commonly known name like Picasso or Caravaggio." By the way, the artist of that work (its not a mold) is famous. That you don't know his name or that others don't just means you aren't knowledgeable. Popularity is not a requirement for art. Most of the population aren't aware of many artists. The ego and self obsessed views in such statements is ludicrous.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@jdbohdan I'm sorry I don't know the name of the artist responsible for the urinal piece. You are right that popularity isn't a requirement for art and I know a lot of great artists that create for the sake of creating and couldn't care less if anyone actually looked at their work. I'm not here to say this artist is better than that one, but if we're still studying and talking about an artist and their work hundreds of years after their death, they were probably doing something right.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
"A work of art which did not begin in emotion is not art." Paul Cezanne
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carmenguedez 1 year ago
Art is based on an agreement between artist and viewer, even though they never met to sign it.
ivanriches 1 year ago
You didn't really answer anything. Not sure what the purpose of the video was.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@jdbohdan The point of this video wasn't to answer any questions. It was meant to ask questions and continue a discussion that has been going on probably since people first started making art.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk That's my point, by just repeating an existing question you add nothing to it.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@jdbohdan So are you saying we should stop asking the question? Because to me, constantly asking questions is the only way to obtain knowledge. I asked the question because I wanted to learn the opinions of other people. As of now, there are roughly 180 comments on this video. If people stop asking questions simply because there doesn't seem to be an answer, we fail to advance as a culture and society.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk No, if it helps you that's great. But it doesn't make sense to me. To say the line is art and then ask the question. How can you define something and then claim not to know the definition?
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@jdbohdan Well the definition I give, which isn't mine, simply a common one that I found, uses terms that are just as subjective as art. Which was kind of what I was trying to get at with the video.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk You are under a false assumption if you think the terms are subjective. Not sure where you got your information from but it is misguided.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
I wouldn't go as far as to say art is 'everything,' but it's definitely all around us. Many of us take it all for granted too. Our homes and cities are designed, our fashions are designed, our languages are designed, our fictional stories are designed, our music is designed, our television shows and movies are designed, our sports are designed, our technology is designed, etc, etc, etc. Without art, most of the 'human world' as we know it wouldn't even exist.
lGigandasl 1 year ago
I had an art teacher once tell our class, "We artists make up about 1% of the entire population, yet we change the world more than anyone else." When you give it some thought, it's a very true statement.
lGigandasl 1 year ago
@lGigandasl That's a good way of thinking about things. Thanks for sharing it with me.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
there needs to be a line because if there isn't one, then art has zero value, and clearly you believe it does.
sidereally 1 year ago
@sidereally I do believe it has value. I think it has a great deal of value. The problem with drawing a line is that my line will be different than your line, which will also be different from every other line that every any other person draws.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk Your statement, like many others make, are made under false assumptions. One of them being art has no rules. You are wrong. You also assume all individuals are capable of making the distinction and identifying what is art. That is wrong too.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@jdbohdan But even those "rules" vary from one culture to another and from one time period to another. My point is that art and, more importantly, those who define what art is and isn't are constantly changing. So even if society somehow came to an agreement as to what art is today and drew that line, tomorrow things will be different and the line would need to be moved to reflect that.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
art is what you think and draw on paper
punkfighter191 1 year ago
I think Art is anything that intrigue, or warm, or fascinate , or touches the heart of person that is experiencing it through their senses.
nakariri 1 year ago
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KyleThomasShultz 1 year ago
Art is media, therefor everything can be art: therefor the question should be: what is culture?
Culture is the number of people who value the media: At the hight of there popularity the Beatles, Michael Jackson and Radiohead where all more popular then Bach or Sinatra, but after a period the lost most of there listeners while Bach and Sinatra kept some of there listeners: The sum total of people who value media throughout times, can explain what is culture and what is not.
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oboeheartsmello 1 year ago
Art is what you want art to be. I look outside every dark dim morning and see a masterpiece. I look at my table, the craftsmenship is art. Every Winter I see a blank canvas. Every poem, picture, and object is art, but only if you see it as art. Most people look at a chair and say that it's just a chair, it takes a true artist to look at a chair and talk about what the chair could be.
sodacan3 1 year ago
I like and agree with your video.
aphilby 1 year ago
There are different kinds of art, which appeals to different kinds of people. Everything is art if you put your mind to it. I don't always believe everything is beautiful. For an example, a man who tied a dog to a corner and starved it to death, called that art. I don't believe it's art, though he has gotten paid to do it again, and again, because it's considered art.
causedhope 1 year ago
Art is everything :)
AxiumKnight 1 year ago
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bonnie28n 1 year ago
crazy......even intelligent men do not know what Art is....once you know what art is,,, you are able to discern what is art and what it is not,,,,,,you can compere it to the fine line between, madness, and genius.
aplied 1 year ago
I show "art" emails that people send me to my art classes. The question I pose is..."Is This Art?" I am very excited to show them your video! It was very well done with so many examples. Thanks for having a creative mind!
Was this video Art? My Graphic Arts students would say "Yes". :-)
gbunch15 1 year ago
Fantastic video! Art, in most cases is ubiquitous. Science is not art. when taken out of context, it is, if you understand my meaning. I think that graphs can be considered art if someone thinks it can be. It is artistic to frame a complex graph, or take a picture looking through a volumetric flask. I was going to say that pop art is not art because it is merely a way of seeling something useless, but so are clothes, chairs, fast-food restaurants, and the like. someone created them.
WVorganstudent 1 year ago
This video is art
TMGrassi 1 year ago
Art=beauty
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Therefore, art is in the eye of the beholder.
AduroNoctis 1 year ago
@AduroNoctis Very well put.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
@lowerbunk Rap isn't art, I can say that.
BleakandDead 1 year ago
Art is not exclusivelly beauty.
Kyrelu 1 year ago
@AduroNoctis Not true. Art and beauty are not the same thing.
jdbohdan 1 year ago
@AduroNoctis one could also say, art is entirely a reflection of oneself. if one can see truth and meaning in an object, or discover how others can see truth and meaning, then one could call that object "art"
prithB102 1 year ago
@jeng3000 is a common, say, salt shaker you see in a diner art? it's functional, it utilitarian, it may even have an element or two of design, but it is not art, was never intended to be. If some shmuck considers art and moves it to a place of reverence that does not make it art. What that makes it is like by one person who calls it art, but it is not art. The urinal is not art no matter where you put it, the make was not looking for that acclaim. By your definition ANYTHING can be called art.
HarshawJ 1 year ago
I find that the author Henry James provided society -- which demands qualifiers for everything it seems -- with questions that can help some people determine whether something is good art. These are his three questions, in a nutshell:
1. what was the artist's intent?
2. did the artist succeed?
3. was it worth it?
When you look at art, think about those three questions. If you can answer the questions, then the work is art, and the 3rd question will determine how you value it.
jeng3000 1 year ago
hey everyone check out myartcorner dot com for more artwork and real life chats with other artists and great video
ZachMikeandConor 1 year ago
He discusses more the
"tricks of the trade" than what the real meaning of art is.
richardguitar1 1 year ago
Funny, I just created a What Is Art video for grade 1 using a little mini-book I found in our school library, and once I u[load I see your movie. I can show this to the older kids I work with - so - thanks! great job!
uechisandan 1 year ago
@uechisandan Thank you. And thanks for using the video. I'm glad people are getting some use out of it and it's creating some debate on the subject.
lowerbunk 1 year ago
Your fundamental question is the "Artist and Critic" debate. The simple chair in your slide show would not be considered art because the designer has not said that it is. There is therefore no critical comment you can make and the designer is not interested in your critique. Same chair just put on a dais is still not art. The mere act of raising and isolating it does not make it art, just changes it location. Now if someone did anything to it then it could be considered art (found object) .
HarshawJ 1 year ago
@HarshawJ Actually taking something out of its normal context and putting into a different context can be art. That was the whole thing about Duchamp taking R. Mutt's designed urinal and putting it in a gallery. He thought it deserved to be called art.
jeng3000 1 year ago
i pee and poop in art each day.
c0kar7 1 year ago
Art is something done so well that it expands our consiousness. Art makes us think and evokes the human spirit. Everything else that is seen as functional generaly is not art.
InTheLifeOfAnArtist 1 year ago
@InTheLifeOfAnArtist "so well"? So if someone draws a person not as well as you think would be considered "so well", then it's not art? What about kid's drawings? Not art? Even if someone sits down and works on drawing, but it's not "that good", then it's not art?
jeng3000 1 year ago
@jeng3000 I do not think it is art is about how well something is drawn.
It is if it completes us in any way. If it expands use in any way.
Does not have to be drawn perfectly to be art.
:) thanks
InTheLifeOfAnArtist 1 year ago
Something is art if it has prompts an emotion, a memory or a discussion, so many people may hate the idea of a urinal, but if someone walks into a gallery and laughs instantly the artist is fulfilled.
cosentinospk 1 year ago
Response to "TheOeaf:"
Art may not be everything, but it can be anything...
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bmackh 1 year ago 7
sure you can put a urinal in an art gallery and call it art. why not? the real question is whether or not it's good art, and if people say they like it better than an amazing painting because that's how they actually feel or whether they're just saying it because they think somehow they're being 'open-minded' and 'edgy' when, in reality they're just being pretentious pricks.
jackquio 1 year ago
(continuation to my previous posts)
-art does not have to be creative in my opinion. As long as it's thought, it is art. As long as it surprises, shocks, reassures (or any other reaction, or even none if the goal of the piece of art is to have no reaction), the idea is no longer only yours but also becomes universal. -Art is immortal and completes the creator. So can art be the traces/works of a man that will always remain in the world even if that person dies? I think art can be seen that way..
Kupolyth 1 year ago
(continuation to my previous post)
-but then if it's someone who creates something (and that thing is the idea of someone else, which means that the guy making the thing creates "like a machine") if that person creates without putting any reflexion in the work, then I wouldn't call that art. But if that person creates (even if he creates 100 of the same things) and puts his mind/heart/reflexion/conscience in them, then I'd call these objects art (for these people)
Kupolyth 1 year ago
now I'm not saying it's this, but in my opinion, art can be:
-the exteriorizing of an idea so that it reaches one of our five senses (so it suggests that it is something created)
-but then if something created is considered art, does it mean that a thousand same pens created by a machine is art? For me, no, cause it's a machine that is doing the work to create...but for the one who had the idea to create a pen, the production of the pen is art.
Kupolyth 1 year ago
now that i think about it actually, the video states that the definition of art is: the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. I agree with this definition, but only to a certain extent. with this said my personal definition of art is: what one determines and interprets as the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. in others words, art is one of those things that is different to everyone, there is never an exact definition to the word, much like what i said about life
dbarii 1 year ago
@dbarii Now, just because we don't like something it doesn't mean is not art. I guess the creativeness of the artist will tell how much the piece would be liked and of course how well he uses his tools.
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
@dbarii There are some art pieces I don't agree with, but yet I see how it could be art. I used to work at Santa Monica and there was an abandoned building were an artist decided to create a live size paper mache sculpture where a man was hanging by its testicles
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
@dbarii and a young lady on the floor with all her clothe ripped, suggesting
she was raped and therefor leading u to under stand man like that should be punished, it made news and it was removed
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
@dbarii I don't think they found out who did it but it certainly
stimulated feelings even in those that did not liked or agree with way the artist decided to express his idea and feelings.
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
@dbarii So even though it was offensive to some, it was
nonetheless a piece of art cause stimulated peoples feelings and ideas, it had creativity and the artist also mastered his tools because I saw it and it was very well made. I believe that if 2 artist have the same amount of creativity but one is better at using his tools, then that artist will have a better chance at being more popular.
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
also if anyone disagrees with my comment below then please debate it with me, im hungry for knowledge and want to learn. so if u find illogical things in my comment then please tell me and explain. thank you all :)
dbarii 1 year ago
@dbarii I dont disagree with your thoughts and this is how I see art: Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
to me, this is like asking the question: what is the meaning of life? its an unanswerable question, much like: what is art? u cant say everything is art because that would be contradictory with the fact that if u called everything art then art itself wouldn't exist. i could spit on the ground with no meaning or feeling and call it art and it would be true, because everything would be art, right? i think instead of questioning art, just create and be creative, dont question life, just live
dbarii 1 year ago
@dbarii agree with u but not with lowerbunk as I feel that not anything could b art. The artist that made that artistic urinal had a point he was trying to get across unlike the urinals u find in most restaurants that are only trying to serve the purpose of retrieving ur urine and not trying to get a point across or stimulate any kind of feeling or idea. That line in the beginning is not art unless it communicated something through its title, cause a line does not express anything
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use
SLICKRICKDESIGNS 1 year ago
@SLICKRICKDESIGNS ah another great mind in interpretation:) i support your notion, great minds think alike! :)
MrMiguelSR1 1 year ago
One questión for you video maker: Is nature art?
You are using Aristotels final causation here to determine art. If you use this for everything, then it would take you to belive that the world, plants, rocks, stars, are made by someone: God. Therefor, even those thinks that man never imagined are still art. So: Do we need to draw the line? Yes, for the concept itselff to be understodd it would need another concept (lines drawn) to be diferentiated from.
what do i think0?
eldiagrama 1 year ago
It's different for everyone, but people have a line drawn or art means nothing to them.
If everything is art, then nothing is art.
If everything is special, nothing is special.
Like if every other person on earth is your friend on facebook, what exactly is a facebook friend worth to you? Discrimination is part of the equation.
My idea of art and yours may be different, since if we both care about art we will likely disagree.
StoryboardSquad 1 year ago
I am an artest and so are we. well put thank you.
mcksdigger 2 years ago