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  • 1:19 secret jeff gordon car to the left? also theres more nascar paint shemes that arent on the game

  • 1:19 secret jeff gordon car to the left?

  • am looking forward to modding the shit out of an NSX and going sick around laguna seca or something.

  • when does this come out?

  • ooo i love ylod

    yellow light of death

  • cannot wait for this game anymore...finished gt5:prologue with all the cars and stil cant get enough! right now im just polishing my g25 till the release date lol crossing my fingers for full clutch support!

  • I feel sorry for Forza when this comes out....

    THIS GAME IS EPIC!!!!!!!

  • i did ... and

  • GT5's features: WRC (world rally championship) NASCAR world series championship DTM (deutche touring motors) LeMan 24hrs DAMAGE!!!!! usual GT mode Actual tracks including the most famous tracks in the world e.g. laguna seca the high speed ring the best rally tracks NURBURGRING GP AND TEST TRACK and more...
  • the damage isnt going to be on all of the cars, which makes me regret buying a ps3 instead of a xbox with forza

  • le-man pawns all, but I couldn't see it on that trailer

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    TELL ME YO CURE

  • HAHA Forza 3 will probably PWN this game! If not..in a years time, may be PGR5 will come out and own both games! :P

  • have you played both games? no. so stfu

  • hey, i've seen both game reviews and have you played both games, no! SO STFU!! And i mean gt5 and forza 3 aren't even out yet! HA you pwned urself lol!

  • when did i say which is better?, no so stfu!

  • there are no review because they havent been released, i think you need to go to bill gates and shove his dick up your ass or vagina, i don't know what you are

  • to "a4nd3re" there ARE reviews of GT5 AND Forza 3, get your information checked buddy before you comment back and i presume from your rude comment, you are one cocksure, immature kid, that probably teases other ppl about homosexuality to cover your own up :( now (in the kindest manner) please stfu and go away :)

  • Your a loser! Go get a life! I didn't read your last comments, cause I don't care about you! stop spamming and don't reply! Your a waste of time! BY BITCH! : ) xbox sucks!

  • sorry, but i have a life, i go to work im getting married, and have no time for a 17 year old to tell me what to do,specially when he gives his birth on his username, i enjoy life and youtube is not my life, i do other things, unlike you, you have nothing to do in life so you waste it spamming a video. How sad......

  • oh and david1991...... why would i go away if this is a gt5 video, not forza i think you should gtfo : )

    and go suck bill gates dick again 8===D

  • sorry youare just so immature, i'll leave to mind my own business but not because you said "gtfo" mate! And i don't know what's running in your head but the only comeback you can think of all the time is bill gates' penis lmao! You must have a thing for penises then and/or him :P chow dhead :)

  • lol again you are a hypocrit because you are spamming as well. STOP BEING A FUCKING HYPOCRIT AND DIE! Ok bye

  • amazing graphics? that was done on computer, it's called "computer graphic" and it's also used in movies like Ice Age

  • Does GT5 have the guided lines like on forza 2?

  • November 09, release date.

  • Can you mod your cars like in gt4?

  • hells yeah

  • I have GT Prologue and just got a Logitech G 25 steering wheel. It rocks! If you don't have one I would definitely recommend getting. It's like you are actually driving. : )

  • hey a better steering wheel which is actually made for the console it's made for, is the xbox 360 steering wheel, by far the best one out!

  • no, the g25 shits on a wheels

  • g25? Well if you are referring to the xbox 360 steering wheel, well you're wrong, it's hella smooth and also it's design is awesome and smooth also!

  • OK first off the g25 is made for pc AND PS3 it says so on the box, I still have it... 2nd this game is not on xbox 360... 3rd the g25 has a WORKING CLUTCH... 4th it has a six speed shifter that you can mount anywhere you want and paddle shifters and sequential up down shifting... 5th 10 count em 10 different levels of force feedback...i can go on. Not to be a dick but your xbox 360 is gona die soon so when it happens upgrade to a PS3... Game on dude : )

  • Geez u r a faggot "Game on", you stick your nose WAAY too far up sony's ass, and that's the god's truth!!!

  • Yea Im a fagot because I know what i am talking about? You are a little boy who has bad grammar! And yea GAME ON BITCH thats if your x box doesn't over heat! FUCK YOU!!! xbox fagot. Microsoft SUCKS! You don't even know what you are talking about in the first place saying that "xbox makes a better wheel for the system its made for". You fucking fanboy. That doesn't even make sense considering the G25 is made for ps3 you remedial degenerate, So shut the fuck up!!! Go play Forza you BITCH!!!

  • Haha i KNEW i was going to get that kind of a response by a SONY PS3 FANBOY...well i wasn't surprised with all the swearing and all that :/. Well i'll quickly explain, easily so you can catch on well:

    a) You are such a hypocrit for saying i am a fanboy when you argue for sony's side

    b) I meant the steering wheel is designed to look for the 360 but also it has a very good design and smooth etc...

    c) I am no little boy (unlike you), i am 17

  • SO I READ C. The 94 in my name is Not my age, it is the year of one of my cars. L.M.A.O Watch my vids if you don't believe me. You're 17 you are a minor. And you are definitely not older than me! Not every one is as stupid as you to put their Year of birth in their name! YOU FAIL STUPID!!! Don't reply, your just spamming this page and not worth my time!!!

  • This is my last msg to "94SuPraGuY", ok 1. i never said that number was your age (WTF r u on?!) 2. 17 isn't a minor, it's nearly adult! 3. i'm not stupid for putting my birth year on my name dickhead, like "oh, someone's going to find out where i live and hack me and shit from my year birth date" YEAH SURE M8! 4. Don't call others stupid when you are most likely contradicting yourself, i'm gone now and if you srsly want to get the last word in now...get a life...i'm not caring now.

  • You are retarded and thats a fact! LMAO You are a minor! Nearly doesn't count, little boy! You said " Im no little boy (unlike) you, I am 17". So How does that make sense then RETERD??? every thing you said has come from one of my previous comments. And I did NOT make ONE single contradiction, so FUCK YOU!!! its funny how you show everyone who reads this page how fucking stupid you are, by makin comments that don't make any sense at all. Read them and see how stupid you are for your self

  • WILL YOU EVER SHUTUP?! I do read my comments and they make sense, oh sorry everyone's NOT perfect i might slip my finger on the FUCKING KEYBOARD BUT EVERYONE'S FUCKING HUMAN! Ohh...wait i don't know about you...but you and your teasing and swearing just like a4nd3re all the time, just makes you more look like a jerk....i've seen it all now, through any other insult at me, it's final now. I don't care right from this point onwards, so if you try to come with a senseless arguement, it wont work :)

  • You started this argument!!! Your just sailing on your ship of wright and everyone else is floating in the sea of wrong... What a loser letting people get to you on the internet... Dont you think there is something wrong with you if there are this many arguments with you on just this page from so many different people? just goes to show who the real loser is. and its you. You obviously have no fucking life,no friends, you just lie over the NET... Good luck on life Mr. IM 17. P.S Game on : )

  • oh sorry i didn't get a word of what you said there, all i got was "blah blah blah, i am an ignorant bastard who just argues back and harrasses people..." Yes...that's what i thought i heard...haha goodbye, or may be you'll argue some more, when i'm being placid, and judging on your maturity you'll argue back at this, no matter what you say!

  • please shut up already, the world is better without you, and im not going to reply, and if you do reply that means that you have no life because you sit infront of a computer all day. And i wont stop talking you know why? because im 25,so don't think that im a stupid 17 year old like you, and say whatever you want because i don't care.....

  • ok let me talk, we're having a great conversation here, oh and btw you copied me AFTER my comment of me saying i wont care what you say anymore, so it seems you are trying to have the last word, pretty sad for a 25 year old, atleast i have an excuse, after all...i am a "stupid 17 year old" and you DON'T! So it seems worse for you, being 25 and all and arguing with a "stupid kid" on youtube, what does that make you? Are you stooping down to my "supposed" level, the answer is...yes you are...

  • ..if you were more mature than me, you would stop arguing RIGHT NOW! From this point onwards, and then we can both live happy lives...so please...think about that.

  • Yea Yea Yea FUCK YOU PUSSY!!! PLACID you mean PASSIVE. One more thing that shows us all your stupidity. You are not even worth arguing with, you are just DUMB. so reply to this like i know you will, even tho you say you wont, because like a4nd3re said " You have no life because you sit in front of a computer all day" And yes you are an extremely ignorant bastard who just starts arguments and harasses people! Why don't you finish what you started and shut your stupid fuckin self the fuck up?!?!

  • Ok let me correct you (boy this is a fun convo isn't it?) Placid; if you do your research, is basically the same as passive or neutral!

    "so reply to this like i know you will" Of course, what do you think i am...PUSSY? Oh that's right, you said i was...well i'm not if i don't stop talking, because i know when i do you'll "think" you got away with it from self-satisfaction which is quite immature to do that...but believe what ever you want, i wont give in to some asshole ok?! Just get that clear

  • Sit there and tell your self whatever you want! I DONT CARE! GROW UP PUSSY! THE WORLD DOESN'T NEED RETARDS LIKE YOU!

  • hey david, you sound like an immature boy who seeks pleasure from male genitals, take your shit and run away like a homosexual, i think you need a girlfriend and i don't care what you say beacsue i have a life and you don't because all you do is spam on videos. so fuck you and your failza

  • HAHA OMG WAT A LAUGH! Just stop it kid you are digging yourself a bigger and bigger hole. You are being hypocritical AGAIN! I also have a girlfriend and the way you act (homo, gay, like saying that etc) you probably don't have one! + YOU are the one saying the immature shit so i wouldn't talk if i were you kid, just drop it and don't talk shit now...but i guess you can't do that and want to argue more :(

  • xbox sucks. please go and cry me a river with your inferior console that looks like an aborted baby.

  • I know it does thats why I bought the PS3!!! never had an X box and I never will, they are junk> SO WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!?!?!?!?

  • GO FUCK YOUR SELF!!!

  • d) You DO NOT [CANNOT ARGUE] know what you are talking about as WELL as me, BECAUSE GT5 AND Forza 3 both AREN'T OUT YET!!!

    e) Microsoft sucks? I bet you use a windows computer, haha shame (but if you don't, no then) about 8/10 ppl use windows (which is made by microsoft obviously)

    f) Finally, put these games behind at the moment and think even more in the future...Project Gotham Racing 5 will probably own both most certainly (no. 3 is an AWESOME racing game)

    Fin!

  • It graphics look almost to realistic that it seems to fakey, but looks amazing!!

  • hoping for constant 60fps including replay.

  • Definitely for Replay

  • Ok, I have a few questions about this game if you guys would be kind enough to answer :P

    How many cars are there going to be?

    How many tracks are there going to be?

    I heard something about damage and customization. Is this true?

    Is there any improvement in the graphics since gran tursimo 5 prologue? (i love that game)

  • Hey Kota2223,

    There are going to be OVER 800 cars

    There will be around 100 tracks

    Damage has been confirmed

    And IGN said that most of the trailer was ingame footage which means that the graphics have been improved

    (not all this information has been completely confirmed so people, do not say if i got any information wrong)

  • ... is it the same price as any other ps3 game? i mean... with much stuff, i wouldn't be surprised with it being double the price...

  • Well gt5 prologue is around 30 us dollars here in the U.S , but the gt5 full, the one on this trailer has no price tag yet, but i am definitely going to buy this game. I think the price will be the normal 60 dollars or they might raise it a little higher since the game has so much awesome content. : )

  • Over 900 cars

  • Yeah, i wasn't so sure about that because i knew that the psp version had around 800 cars, thanks for the info

    : )

  • Over 900 cars, This games probably going to be $80.

  • I got ps3 just for this game

  • LMAO so did I! I thought GT5 would come out a few months after the prologue. I was wrong, but it's gonna be worth the wait.

  • any news on porsche or lambo in the game?

  • Lamborghini is in the game, so is porsche.

  • Hello, do you know where it said that porsche and lamborghini where going to be in the game, i would really like to know

    Thank You : )

  • i love ALL GT games . i need GT5

  • the best game

  • 1:41  omg

  • I'm so excited i can't wait.I'm going to buy ps3 just for this game!!!

  • 0:34 PIDGEONS ?!

    these guys sure know how to turn their fans on

    haha =D

  • This seriously forces me to consider getting a PS3.

  • add mgs4!

  • NFS have many fictitious physics like a hollywood movies GT it's a real driving simulator

  • Holy shit once you have this you won't need to buy another racing game till gt6 comes out it has everything......And whats this sticky stuff on the fron of my pants!!

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  • ok, i just wanna clear some stuff up...

    i saw a subaru in the vid that got damage, does this mean that we will hav damage in the game?

    Also, the brought in Nascar and WRC and im really crazy about rally but did they take out F1?? F1 is in GT5 Prolouge but i just wanna kno... i also wanna kno about the costumization, is there any?

  • everything you say is right, and f1 is incuded :)

  • Gran Turismo e God of War 3 são as unicas coisas que motivaria-me a comprar um PS3.

    Sou apaixonado por este jogo desde o play 1.

    Apesar de eu ter um Xbox 360 sempre jogo o Gran turismo 4 no meu play 2.

  • uncharted?metal gear soldi 4?little big planet?wipeout hd? and more.....

  • name of song now or death plz!!! xD

    lol no but seriously, that song is the shit, name plz!!! x)

  • the music was made in house by PD staff for the clip

  • i KNEW it!!! :(

  • This is not a game.

    This is the REAL driving simulator!!.

  • amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

  • Gran Turismo series still beats racing games out there. Now they have Nascar, what does Forza 3 have? Well they'll be having pretty much the same thing, except they have a dash view. Gran Turismo has 16 cars racing each other and Forza 3 still has 8 cars. When i saw the video of the gameplay for Forza 3 and when they show the interior for the Audi R8 FSi. It looks like shit!!!!!!! Gran Turismo has the BEST car Graphics than any other racing game.

  • lol not to mention Gt5 only lincenced a few of the nascar teams, pause it when you see all the cars on daytona and youll c what i mean, there are like 2 cars sponsored by DUPOnt and 3 by NAPA

  • who the hell care's about stickers and rims and body kits and spoilers

  • Who the hell cares about body kits, rims, spoilers, and 500 decals when you have the perfect driving sim to enjoy?

  • i love the GT series and it is the perfect driving sim but to some ppl the body kits, rims and spoilers and vinyls and decals and all that stuff is just a plus... i wud buy GT over nfs anyday!

  • hahaha nfs is not even a racing sim... and no where near as exciting or fun... its not even a comparison :P gran turismo 5 is the most advanced racing sim out there, i would go even far enough to say that it is the most advanced video game ever created

  • forza lol. gt 5 will have all you xbox lovin chumps running out to buy a ps3

  • haha every buddy against eachother i like both

  • yup u can say that again lol i think all these people saying forza is better must not have heard about gran turismo before :P

  • sure it will :::sarcasm:::

  • very true,,,im so pissed off with microsoft for making shit xbox 360s that break so easly...ive had 5 already,,,bt yea,this game is fkin awesome n i will be gettin a ps3 just for this game alone....

  • i want this song!!

  • one thing i hope gtr have done better is that it comes more smoke when you drift, in gtr 5 proluge its like nothing and it is much more fun when it alot of smoke!

  • oooooooooooooooooooohhhh my god this is gonna be fricking awesome i cant wait too put the game in my ps3 and play it.

  • if someone knows the name of the song, plx tell me :)

  • impresionante ke ganas tengo de ke salga......

  • Dammit, I think I soiled myself again. I gotta stop watching this video...

  • I jizzed in my pants.

  • everything included in this game is sick

  • Yeah but we want to see the actual gameplay. It makes you wonder why this hasn't be released yet. And I've just read that it's actually finished but won't be coming out this year....

  • Does anyone know what track is playing?

  • OMG i'd love to know the song name... X)

  • holy shit holy shit holy shit!!!

  • fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes

  • I hope they free up the limitations on the real GT5. On GT5p nearly every online race has manufacturer restrictions which is annoying because I just spent 1,000,000CR on the Citroen GT but there was NO races that allowed it in.

    I would like them to stop the massive car depriciation thing too, I sold my F1 car for 500,000CR which is bad considering I bought it for 2,000,000CR

    Can't argue with the graphics though, fucking best thing I've ever seen!!

  • buy the 2 machines cause the ps3 is lacking games still.buy ps3 after god of war.i have both and i play mainly on my xbox360.i use ps3 just to see blue ray movies and to play call of duty 4 but i play the call of duty 5 on xbox.besides all demos go for 360.sony charges the companies to post on psn.loading times are too long in psn.but if yo want the best game ever go with ps3 mgs4

  • Well I have a 360 and guess what!

    It scrached my GHWT disc and my L4D disc. So I was thinking that i should buy a PS3. After watching this video I am 90% convinced that I should buy a PS3. So i need you guys to give me the 10% that I need. So please tell me: Why should I buy a PS3?

  • It's very simple: the PS3 is the best.

  • One more thing: What are the differences between FORZA 3 and GT5?

    If anyone knows reply!

    Bad English.. sorry! :)

  • GT5 is the most realistic Driving game out there made the best possible.

  • better graphics, more cars, real driving simulator = GT5

  • Your English is fine lol!

    Forza 3 is more of a racing simulator whilst GT5 is more of a driving simulator. Forza 3 will feature less cars and tracks but will have near limitless customization options, an area where the 'mighty' GT5 will fall behind, sadly

  • Oh thats nice! Thank you people! Besides I dont care if it hasn't customization!

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  • Because this game will not come out for another 10 years or so.

  • the producer said it can be released at any time now - they can just keep tweaking it.

  • because the ps3 can turn you into a racecar driver like this guy

    watch?v=Bxn4zJx4HCA

  • THat is kick ass

  • omg omgomg om omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg damage...I will have to buy a fucking ps3 again.. god damn it. lol

  • AWESOME!

    1.) I need it

    2.) I NEED IT

    3.) Did I say, that I need it?

  • g25 u dun kno

  • Cant wait for this game

  • You could very easily mistake some of these shots for real life. I'm blown away. 1:30 close up of damage yay!

  • *update* Kazunori yamauchi has stated that GT5 is done, And they are now fine tuning and getting out the bug's So expect gt5 in the next 3 months

  • The expected release is just before christmas in 2009.

  • damage is AWESOME!!!  if you total your car you just respawn. in GT if you wreck you have NO chance of winning. burnout or nfs = forza. GT5 WILL DOMINATE!!!

  • whats the name of the song in this awesome trailer?

  • do you know how long it takes sbm to make a game that incorporates thousands of cars, with individual physics, damage models, reactions, not to mention the time they spend with those sensors in the test cars that they drive, not to mention the worlds, texture, detail, events.. not to mention glitchs that have to be diagnosed. I rest my case

  • oh so you think that gt5 will have thousands of cars lol it will have about 300 cars with 3 or 4 versions of the same car for example the honda civic may be a si coupe, a type r, a hachback or a type s but essentially it's the same car. the nissan skyline gtr could be a vspec or vspec II do you see what i mean or are you too blinded by the hype that sony created for this sorry excuse for a racing game.

  • man gran turismo was always number 1, and this has the potnetial to be the best car oriented game ever made

    , do not knock it till it comes out

  • dude have you even PLAYED gt4??? there are like 3 cars that have a different version of itself...

  • yeti6593 i had gt4 and i didn't like it much because the entire game was unrealistic i mean handling tire sound crashes and the cars did 480mph with nos what the fuck is that all about, no road or race car is capable of such a speed. the best gt game in my opinion is gt3 but even it's cars felt like they were floating.

  • plus there were more cars in gt4 that had different versions of itself for example, 1 honda civic versions,1.5, type r, si coupe. 2 skyline r32 vspec, r32 vspec II, 3 r33 vspec, r33 vspec II, 4 r34 vspec, r34 vspec II, 5 mitubishi galant normal and vr4, 6 mitubishi gto twin turbo, gto twin turbo vr4, 7 lots of subaru impezas and 8 lots of mitubishi lancers so i just pointed out 8 cars there yeti6593 and trust me there are lots more.

  • gt4 was said to have about 1000 cars including unlockables so if 90% gt4s cars had 4 versions then that number falls greatly to around 300 see what i mean.

  • who care's about damage, It's a simulator driving, not crashing simulaor, but anyway can't say that it is a Definite plus! now GT went from simulator to virtual reality ;) forza dosen't have anything on this.

  • if there is no Nurburgring i well NOT buy the game .

  • Ocliot don't worry it will be in their it was in 4 as well. Its one of their favorite tracks I should know I did a 24 hour race on that long ass track in GT4 lol.

  • Nurburgring at 1:48

  • It will.

  • OMFG DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE!!!!! yessss and it looks really cool, i want damage but im a little scared in case that causes that the graphs get worse.....

  • thete is a damge look at 1:27

  • I need to change my pants....

  • shut up whinner.

  • HOLY SHIT! DAMAGE?

  • OMG i want this so bad, and when i thought it couldnt get any better they have real world rally cars and nascars!!! it just gets cooler!!

  • You are a retard....how can "The real Simlulator" not have damage? Why is it taking Sony SO LONG? While you dumb pricks wait years for 1 game, we get 2.

  • look at the subaru at 1.27.. looks like damage to me?

  • Omg you're right

  • I'm so happy after seeing this trailer. After playing GT5:P I was so dissapointed with it. This trailer shows me they knew there were A LOT of things wrong and are taking time to finally take GT to the next level. GT1-3 were awesome with 4 and 5P lacking IMO because didn't have the same kind of new additions to them. And please PD don't add anymore NOS or faggy spoilers leave that to the retards at ea. Also does this mean their won't be EA nascar games anymore that would be a good thing.

  • I've completed every GT game 100% up through GT3 Aspec. GT4 = Only License Tests (all gold) and Challenges 100%. Then I quit Gran Turismo after Mission 34. As a Motorcycle enthusiast, I also had to play through Tourist Trophy as well.

    If PD turns their next effort (GT5) into a proper racing game for us racing fanatics, I'll be sure to pick it up. But if it's the same "driving" simulator I've been dominating with my mad skills over the years.. Then I'll have to pass on it, unfortunately.

  • i dont think any specific info has been released other than GT5 will rape forza GT5 will more than likely have 1500 plus cars and HUNDREDS of tracks.. PLUS GT5 IS REALISTIC UNLIKE forza wanna copy nfs, burnout and GT. WOW forza has stickers for your cars......... so does LBP!!

  • everyone knows gt5 is better than forza. im a pc fan and id rather have a 360 than a ps3 but gt5 is in a different league to everything out there. the gran turismo games always have been and always will be. i want this game on pc so badly. never gonna happen though. forza is coming out on pc though and it is a bad ass game so that made me smile and rub my hands =]. the pc world is slowly growing :)

  • forza isn't coming to the pc.

  • I must have this game, flat out, I must have it.

  • FUCKING SICK!!!

  • need for speed has gone downhill godale44 There last good racing games were nfs 2, mfs high stakes, hot pursuit 2 and most wanted which was like years ago lol.

  • need for speed is a joke to gran turismo in simulation graphics sales gt rapes it in the ass so bad its not funny gran turismo totally gonna rape forza did u see the le mans track frikin weather changes man awesome

  • Is that it 90 tracks? forza 3 is gonna have over a 100 tracks which is what i heard poondhi.

  • lol forza has fake tracks gt has real tracks btw forza will never get le mans and nurburing gt sponsors those races suckers btw we got nascar and wrc so see u later suckers

  • forza and forza 2 have the nurburgring unlawf.

  • isn't the mercedes on the nurburgring at 1:40?

  • yea that's the nurburgring.

  • yeah but not ANYMORE buddy boi gran turismo sponsors the raCE AND THEY WILL NEVER GET LE MANS GRAN TURISMO JUST PROVED THEY R WAY AHEAD OF FORZA IN THIS TRAILER FORZA 3 IS GOING TO GET RAPED SO BAD BY GRAN TURISMO 5 IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY SALES GT ALL WON REVIEWS GT I WONDER Y F1 DRIVERS DON;'T USE FORZA OH WAIT MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SIMULATOR FAKE DAMAGE GT THE CAR FRIKIN GOT DAMAGE BY HITTING THE GROUND FORZA DOESN;T HAVE THAT NOW DO THEY

  • i said forza has the nurburgring, forza2 has the nurburgring and forza3 has the nurburgring i never said anything about lemans, f1 drivers don't use gran turismo either but touring car drivers do, and what are you going on about fake damage for when for 11 years the gran turismo games didn't have damage unlawf.

  • r u kidding me look at sebastien loeb he used it before he raced rle mans forza is a joke of a simulator 1 gran turismo game has sold more than the entire forza franchise lol forza and forza 2 combined so 5 mil i excep