Joanna "Paprotka" Paprocka (highlight)

[Kopp203]

15 years ago, me and 3 guys from our TKD club (WTF style) are going home from class. One of us had been training 6 years, 2nd dan, kicked ass at tournaments. He was pretty much the best in our club, both technique & sparring ability. 2 guys start getting sassy, as 1 of us was still in his dobok. 2nd dan, confident in his bad assery, squares off to the mouthy one. Straight left, right hook, 2nd dan on the floor asleep, never been in a real fight and had crap punch defense. I rest my case.

[RyanJW13]

and once that happens, as it inevitably will, you'll be left questioning wtf you spent all those years and all that money training something that was of virtually no use to you when the chips were down and it was time to deliver.

Once TKD stops calling itself a martial art, when the martial component is conspicuous in its absence, people like me will stop calling it out on the Internet. TKD sport athletes are jusut that, sport athletes, they aren't fighters in any sense of the word.

[RyanJW13]

The fault is with the training methodology and its real life application. So long as you understand you are training a sport and are happy with that, then good for you. Problem with TKD is that a lot of instructors market it as a martial art and use "self defense" in advertising it.

Kicking and punching empty air,drilling patterns and light contact sparring won't help you in a real fight against someone that isn't an idiot. You will be put down hard and fast. continued>

[faststrikex]

dat looked more like kickboxing

[Kopp203]

@misfit1978 - Krav Maga.

@cartoonhead08 - at least I train in a manner that would give me a better chance of survival against knife attacks, or guns in close range, than some taekwondo exponent.

[StillSkyHigh]

PLEEAASSSE SUB ME

[thetruthboss]

snore snore snore....first you kick me then I'll kick you, then I'll chase you with a running punch and you can do the same to me...it's about as interesting as Religion..totally boring and crap....do a real art..it's like watching two kids having a scrap in the playground.

[SickMyDuckFilms]

@thetruthboss all the big competitions and stuff you just go slam bang whallop, and try to score points and knock the other person .

go to a small (or eveb a large) clubs competition and it's all dodging, holds and out witting the other person whilst you spar (fight).

in other words

olympic level competitions: rubbish,overated, don't show the skill behind TKD

Club Level sparring and competitions : great, tough for contestants, and they require actual skill.

[1967runningman]

Shotokan Karate. There all effective, try them. Keeps you sharp , fit and positive.

[c1991kit]

What a rubbish martial art Taekwondo is.

[1967runningman]

you should never underestimate anybody. Least of all anyone

training in matial arts. So if you are going to be negative about this video. Find out your local martial arts club and give it a go first.

[spiff225]

it takes skill to do that??

[bati222]

he he he

[phuturephunk01]

...yawn!....

[Kopp203]

Lol.  I'm neither old, nor fat and considering I've spent the last twelve years studying a real martial art, you know, one that actually really teaches how to fight, I doubt I'd get bitchslapped by any little girly whom I outweigh by about 70 pounds and has NO defence to speak of.

Not that it'd come to that, I don't fight women. Past experience has shown me that it's not fun being the one delivering the epiphany to someone who thought they were "all that" with their mickey-mouse style.

[misfit1978]

What do you study?

[CartoonHead08]

@Kopp203 what the point being able to fight that well when nowadays you get shot or stabbed

[MOTOPLATSEM]

:) one lepiej walcza od wielu pajacow poprzebieranych w biale,,,, nie wiem jak to sie nazywa.?:) w kazdym razie jestem pozytywnie zaskoczony poziomem :)

[fugetao]

MMA

ma MMA

mamma?

[Sushiboii2]

WTF that's not even taekwondo. That's boxing and retardation all in 1.

[PureAwesomenes]

i'd pay her to go against me. lets see what she can do against a real force...

[w0rldd0minat0r]

I think we'd pay her too, to watch ur ass get beat

[OticonEpoq]

from USA, do it girl!!!

[Kopp203]

The only cretins are the retards that think this shit is a martial art, or that these sort of tournaments are worth anything. The average "expert" taekwondoist has about as much real fighting ability as teenager that's been training boxing for 2 weeks.

6 years might not be enough to have made me an expert, but the intervening 15 years and the advent of modern MMA shows Taekwondo for what it is - a joke sport trying to masquerade as a martial art. Go practise more sloppy, scrappy, shit sparring

[russhutton]

And just what can your old, fat ass do besides talk shit.? Go kiss your picture of the queen, get your teeth fixed and shut the fuck until you can back up what you think you know. That girl would whoop your ass anyday...

[TKDGSA]

@Kopp203

Try fighting in The Clash of the Titans then...or King of the Ring, King of the Ring is especially brutal.

I've been doing Taekwon-Do for over 9 years and have been in plenty of street fights and have never lost one of them.

So, I'm going to respectfully suggest that you go and post positive comments on videos that YOU like, and not post negative comments on ones you don't.

[gitsumcomeon]

Go fight Cyborg or Carano, go MMA or nothing, this shits a joke.

[lewghost]

the real problem isn't the fighters, it's Taekwon-do

[Pax7676]

Ugh

[Pax7676]

Yo wtf is dis!? Dis aint tkd. Dis jus luk lyk a bunch of bitchslappin bak n forth kinda. The sports ight but wat da hell

[37mafia1]

I do the same thing but I'm a dude and I keep my hands up when I spar.The sport has really helped me out threw life.

[arrechavengo]

I got a bitch like that @ home!

lol

[pktheworld]

what a useless sport.

[marick626]

This just looks like cat fighting to me. Same thing you see in those after school fighting videos. I don't really know much about taekwon-do but you would think fighters would have some sort of style. this just seems like they throw at each other randomly.

[driocht91]

This girl is unreal.

Don't you hate it when you're watching a spar and analysing ways in which you would've gotten out of certain situations, yet when you're in the ring it's a completely different story...

This girl makes me want to be a better sparrer.

...........How is she in patterns though, eh? eh?? haha just kidding.

[Kopp203]

WTF black belt in my teens, 6 years of (wasted) training. That qualifies me to have an opinion.

Nice sport though.

[Noodle1989]

Lol, I've done WTF style for over 13 years (I'm 20) work it out. Did ITF a couple of years also to try it out.

Also where is it generally acknowleged I would like references, from viable sources.

[Kopp203]

You could be Hee Il Cho himself and you'd still only be self-delusional if you think either style of Taekwondo makes you a fighter. Enter a local amateur MMA event and try your skills out against even a brazilian jujitsu white belt with a few months of training. You'd be on the floor and submitted in very short order.

I used to think like you. A streetfight against someone that wasn't a chump with zero training soon woke me up to the reality of a fight without rules and a referee.

[caribbeanpriceclub]

@Kopp203 All fight training is different. Train in muay thai, fight in itf competition against reasonably competent persons and you will ,lose.

That's how ring fighting is, you have to train.

I think ITF tkd is eminently practical. I don't understand why people need to bag on tkd, sniff.

What do you think is unrealistic, is it kicks, punches , elbows, knees, jumping techniques, ground techniques, throwing, tripping, open hand techniques, breaking, patterns, self defense or conditioning? what?

[Noodle1989]

As usual everyone on Youtube is a fucking expert....

[karuspery]

@Noodle1989

True!

Real contact fighting does look like this but people expect a Chinese Kung fu movie.

[Kopp203]

Sloppy shit tbh - typical of a taekwondo tournament and why it's generally acknowledged to be the biggest mickey-mouse so-called "martial art" on the planet.

Anyway, isn't ITF supposed to be semi-contact? Looks like they're going all out here. You can add dangerous lack of control to the scrappy mess criticism.

[MsMosquito9]

6 years of WTF barely qualifies you to have a valid opinion, It does qualify you as cretin though. Did it take you 6 years to work it out?

[AxeManPiffHead1]

punjab!

[LulyPues]

I love it

[syder1109157]

The kicks were really flashy and appealing..But the fighting just blows, when it comes to punching it doesnt even look like they know what they're doing, and nobody seems to know how to block the punches when they're comming =/ Mildly entertaining.

[EnorOne71]

NAJS.

[619kammy]

They are not even guarding lol....

[odirty85]

wielki ukłon w strone Joanny, swietna technika, dynamika, szybkosc wola walki:D aaa rozjebalas mi dupeczki, ladnie ladnie :D:D:D:D

[codER21037]

Recordskamel kocie ruchy ? brawa dla prawdziwych ? czytales jej osiagniecia ? Asia by cie zabila zanim bys z tego swojego super klubu wyszedl :-/

[Wysublimowanymarian]

ahh prodigy ;p

[sensopot]

fajno : )

[blokers2]

arnspawn sluszna uwaga,Ty moze nie robisz takich podstawowych błedow ale za to twoje wypowiedzi sa prostackie:) Po co tyle przeklinac?

[zammotasuplany]

widzialem ja live w lublinie ... baba z jajami :) wie o co chodzi w tym sporcie

[Recordskamel]

Sorki ale ja trenowalem w Ketrzynskim Tygrysie...Dla tych co sa kumaci to rozkminia jeden z najlepszych klubow w polsce...A to co tu widze przypomina mi KOCIE ROCHY...Pozdro dla prawdziwych....Elo

[niekas]

Tae Kwon Do is a sport for kids. If you use it for self defense its pretty much as using ballet skills.

[drsnowmon]

@niekas

ITF is not the same thing as WTF, I think you're confused

[jutubjebanecweele]

jesli autoryzowala artykul to jest biedna

[HusarzRP]

laski sa z reguly mulaste i pizdowate. paprocka kurewnei dobrze sie rusza..zupelnei jak mezczyzni..szybkie odskokki w tyl u neij to poezja..potem kontra..wielka zawodniczka.. zakurwiscie walczy.

[rwdONLY82]

Jak na kobiece TK to narazie ogarnia, ale za dlugo na tym patencie nie pociagnie.

Mam nadzieje ze niedlugo zobacze ja "miazdzaca" przeciwniczke, bo posiada ducha walki!!!

[OSCAR1987wwa]

Fajne ma te wejścia z rękami, sporo ich używa jak na TK. Jednak w K-1 każda zawodniczka będzie ogarniała gardę i nie będzie tak łatwo. Boks musi dojść do treningów.

[mihmen1]

nie jestem znawcą, ale stwierdzam, że nic szczególnego nie zobaczyłem