@lisamarieindc Indeed. I am surprised you were able to spell all those words correctly.
But, there is a neat characteristic of research, which I am sure you have not yet started; if the propositions are wrong, they will quickly fail. If they are right, the more research the more one finds supporting them.
Over 300 videos from intensive research; never even a hint of error.
In what parallel universe is speculation an argument? You don't know how she bought the house or how she paid for it.
Try coming up with an argument that you can prove. My argument is that no coroner would sign off on a body that they haven't seen and that the SSDI is compiled from coroner data. Find some hard evidence to debate that, not speculation.
did you see all those THOUSANDS of americans FALSELY claiming they were at the towers so they could get compo. some even collected body parts and said its there loved ones. disgusting . while bible says all those that killed themselves by jumping to get away from burning are in hellfire burning forever. TALK ABOUT IRONY.
yeah... and those planes that we have seen from all the other video sources where all inserted as well.... an interpolation from a French source... another Muslim state
@KirtCortez Pick a "planes" video. Good chance I have proven it's a fake. But, be assured, every video of planes at the wtc on 911 has been proven faked by many different researchers. Those proffs are for the truly ignorant who are guillible enough to think that a 1/8th inch aluminum can can slice through 2 feet of structural steel and 210 feet of reinforced concrete without breaking up.
@CNN911Fakes I have seen pine needles go through trees, creosote poles, you an inkling the force that takes? Did you see the crater left by United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania,Shanksville? It was huge! And not one piece of a body nor of the plane could be found...That plane traveling the speed that it was plus the weight could very easily slice right through that building and it no doubt did..Jesse Ventura, is an idiot! And to call those of us who know better ignorant is laughably childish...
@CNN911Fakes Your comment though was about the planes being fake, and the doubt cast on their penetrating the Towers structure, and fire was indeed what I commented on. If your comment was to lead a discussion on Edna Cintron and not also the the commercial jets doubtful penetration, why then include it. You stated that her makeup was untouched, I commented that was impossible, as I have seen hundreds of bodies that have fallen lesser heights making one hell of a mess shredding apart the body?
@CNN911Fakes:nearly 2,800 victims, fewer than 300 whole bodies found, fewer than 1,600 victims identified, over 1,100 victims remain unidentified, over 800 victims identified by DNA alone, nearly 20,000 pieces of bodies found, over 6,000 pieces small enough to fit in test-tubes, over 200 pieces
matched to single person, nearly 10,000 unidentified pieces frozen for future analysis. This is what happens to bodies that jump those heights and the many who had tons of concrete fall upon them!
Did you know we never got and still haven't got, official flight manifests? The US attorney at the Moussaoui trial perjured himself by pretending he had one. He didn't.
You neglected my question; why didn't they retreive any of the bodies of the people who fell? No one, by the way, jumped. That accusation is disgusting.
@CNN911Fakes: I answered your question and posted the number of those who were not retrieved. As far as the flight manifest goes I need to research it. People most certainly did jump "YEP" and there are hundreds of pictures showing them hanging from outside the the towers and then jumping. What is so disgusting? People jump when the threat of burning alive overwhelms them. I would and thousands of humans have repeated that very horrible act, it's what we do when threatened in such a way...
@Swampwabbit77 Noticed you have not returned with the original flight manifests. I also wish to point out that what you suggest in the following quote is impossible
"there are hundreds of pictures showing them hanging from outside the the towers and then jumping"
Please tell all of us how a person who is hanging manages a "jump"?
The truth about humans is that they won't jump from a fire easily even when there is a landing net controled by rescuers trying to save them. "Jumpers" is a lie
Part 2/2, However, the buildings were destroyed in a manner that converted most of their non-metallic contents to homogeneous dust, including the bodies. This destruction of the bodies assured that no exact determination could ever be made regarding who was piloting the jets at impact, and the condition of the people on board.
Part 1/2", The aircraft impacts and fires in all probability would not have destroyed a single body beyond positive identification. Nor have building collapses ever been known to destroy human remains beyond recognition.
@CNN911Fakes By the way, the weight of those engines are several tons, your calculations are baseless, and the engines themselves could easily rip open those buildings and some. And if your hanging outside those buildings as she was, she wouldn't have been expose to the direct heat and when she was, she jumped, you can bet too that her makeup would have been messed up upon impact. I have seen many jumpers and their faces and heads are mush, she was pudding after hitting the ground, her makeup to
Who identified this woman as "Edna Cintron" and why isn't she listed on the Social Security Death Index as dying on 9/11?
We were told that 3,000 people died on 9/11. However, I find it extremely disturbing that MOST of the 9/11 "victims" including the firefighters DO NOT show up on the Social Security Death Index as dying on 9/11. How do I know this? I checked it myself.
She was Canadian. I cant seem to find the actually ssdi site but maybe it is because they were not pronounced or declared dead, but missing on 9/11. Does the ssdi go by the time you are declared dead, or by the day you do die? Please inform me if you find any info.
It's easy to find the Social Security Death Index, all you have to do is GOOGLE it. We were told that they had identified ALL the 9/11 victims via DNA. If that's the case, then ALL of the "victims" of 9/11 should show up on the SSDI but they don't. Only about 10% show up. Check it yourself.
@MegaYeshua33 If you geninely can't find the Social Security Death Index,then how on earth are you going to find out the truth concerning 9/11....or are you expecting the media to spoonfeed you their version of the truth.
@MegaYeshua33 The story of Edna Cintron is as believable as the story of Stanley Praimnath,the guy who survived the head on collision with a 767 by hiding behind his office desk which must have been made from materials stronger than the steel structured tower (sarcasm),as for you asking for a link to the SSDI...find it yourself and stop expecting everyone else to do your donkey work,i'm assuming you have a brain..use it.
All DNA evidence found was sent to Dover. They supposedly identified all of the "victims". Yet, only about 10% of the names on the 9/11 victims list show up on the SSDI as dying on 9/11. In order for insurance to be paid out to the families, the "victims" had to be declared dead.
Yes, they identified the victims, that's not the same as signing off on a body.
You're absolutely right, it's a bullshit bureaucratic holdup that should have been dealt with ages ago but, as a comparison, it took 23 years for some families to get a widow's pension out of the Army after WW2 for the same reason: No body, no all fired important piece of paper from a coroner.
Because the coroner wouldn't have been the one to do the identification and because signing off on a death certificate has the caveat, in the wording of the document, that you have handled and identified the body. Signing off on a death certificate is a huge legal responsibility which is why certain cases, like going MIA in war or 9/11, is left up to bureaucracy as opposed to an individual coroner and this holds up SSDI recognition and insurance payouts, unfortunately..
They took the body parts to DOVER, a military installation. They said they identified the victims through DNA. Tell me, what coroner are you talking about?
The legality involved in signing off on a death certificate is not something that is open to interpretation nor does it allow for extraordinary circumstances like 9/11. The SSDI is compiled from these death certificates. If you don't have a body, and DNA identification is not the same as having an actual corpse, you have to go through the long and arduous process of having someone declared legally dead.
I'm as curious as everyone else as to why it is taking the government so long to declare the victims legally dead I just don't think that there's anything sinister or conspiratorial about it. The government is the furthest thing from a well oiled and operationally sound machine so I'd imagine that it's some bureaucratic bullshit holding up the declaration.
You wondered why the SSDI didn't list the victims and not having the paperwork from a coroner is why.
@lmfecher Your tolerance is amazing! But I realize we may be the crest of the "fix the SSDI problem" wave
Do you recall they obliterated the take offs and landings database when the fact that neither AA plane ever took off on 9/11. They retroactively repaired the "planes in service" database when people discovered that all 4 planes were still certified.
Clearly, SSDI will adjust the stats soon, based on the balderdash your foil has been saying. They will claim they were prohibitted by law!
@lmfecher Thanks. Appreciation and encouragement are what keep the machine running! YT/Google is hiding me these days, so it's a little discouraging. I suppose it will be worse once the improvements are fully implemented.
The government is the entity responsible for declaring these victims. They would send the SSDI a declaration stating that the person is dead in lieu of a coroner's cert. . I don't know why the government wouldn't have bypassed the standard formality of a certain amount of time having to have passed before issuing the declaration in this circumstance but they haven't.
It's an embarrassing bureaucratic blunder, to be sure, try not to read anything into it beyond that.
Another example where this lengthy process of declaring someone legally dead happens is in an ocean plane crash where the bodies can't be recovered. All the evidence is there that makes it reasonable to assume that no one on board survived but you still have to have your loved one declared legally dead.
It really is the idiotic formality that I'm sure you have it pegged as but it's a formality put in place to legally protect people in my line of work.
If all these people weren't declared dead by a coroner or by the government, then please explain to me why they aren't listed as missing? Why would they say that they've identifed the dead through DNA, but not DECLARE them dead? Dead, but not listed as dead? Why would they be listed on many 9/11 victims' lists and why would they erect a multi-million dollar monument to them at Ground Zero?
Government bought and paid for coroners. Reminds me of the whole JFK bullshit story.
I once worked on a case where the police absolutely, without question knew that it was a suicide but they didn't have a body for me.
The man's widow had to go through the lengthy process of having her husband declared legally dead by the government (This can take anywhere from 8-14 years depending on the jurisdiction).
No coroner is going to sign off on a body they haven't seen on the off chance that that body could show up, alive, somewhere in the future.
The Shills/Trolls/Disinfo (S.T.Ds) on here are under total control from their Handlers/Orderers/Masters/Owners (H.O.M.Os). Basically the HOMOs spread their STDs to try and infect free speech about 9/11 and stop people from spreading the truth, about 9/11 begging ppl to shut up, i wont do it, its so obvious and blatant, yet another false flag slaughtering 3000 innocent ppl, its disgusting, and the perps will burn in hell for it!
@CNN911Fakes why don't you just let all the "kids" know that the Disney font is used to hi-light the fact that all planes seen on 9/11 are "Cartoons" (CGI Fakes)
The Shills/Trolls/Disinfo (S.T.Ds) on here are under total control from their Handlers/Orderers/Masters/Owners (H.O.M.Os). Basically the HOMOs spread their STDs to try and infect free speech about 9/11 and stop people from spreading the truth, about 9/11 begging ppl to shut up, i wont do it, its so obvious and blatant, yet another false flag slaughtering 3000 innocent ppl, its disgusting, and the perps will burn in hell for it!
Not stock footage, but is a chronicle of that day.. It is compositionally sound.. in that it is experienced in a way that it can hold you for 130 minutes, because it feels like you are there, but not in the unrelenting adrenaline rushed way that so many other programs about 9/11 do. This 9/11 story/chronicle is a human portrait of that day. Available on DVD. Check with channel that posted this.
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@Kiler5544 Does that mean you think someone was photographed more than the lady in the hole we call Edna Cintron, administrative assistant at Marsh McLennan (Mercer)?
COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal[2], projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.
COINTELPRO tactics included discrediting targets through psychological warfare, planting false reports in the media, smearing through forged letters, harassment, , and extralegal violence !!
@CNN911Fakes lol. You should be more paranoid about using the Disney font then of the U.S. government. Mickey will be outside your bedroom window ready to pounce. muah!
@sketchadams Thank God for Copyright protection; protects the little creators like me!
OH, wait, it only protects those with the money to defend their CR! Mickey has billions, I am broke. My CR ain't worth the TP it's written on (as you know, the CR is not written until the job is done)!
I was very worried 280 videos (YT has squashed 5), 4 years and 6.2 million views ago. Still worried, but much less. More worried about getting the facts straight. Have made a mistake or 2 along the way.
Check your facts and do some research jackass.... She blessed herself,looked up to the sky and jumped.....u know why????? Cause she wanted to end her torture!!!
@kirbs523 Yup, you're right. That is why I checked the NIST reports, the FEMA reports, thousands of images and hundred of hours of video. She was there the whole time.
The woman in the hole we refer to as Edna Cintron proves all the things I say she proves, and more. Nothing about her supports the official lie. Nothing
You are welcome to prove otherwise. Find an unaltered image of the wtc1 hole where she does not also appear. She does not appear only in grossly fabricated ones-like NYPD.
U conspiracy theorists crack me up. Like u can tell from that blurry ass photo of her if she dirty or burnt. Oh yeah and by the way why would she climb down 3 flights of stairs and not go all the way down cause If her floor was impacted and she was able to go down 3 flights that tells u that the stairwell was still intact . Oh yeah and If the fire wasn't hot then why did she jump to her death
Hey man, I like your videos and love what you're doing, but the Disney font, clashing colors, and the dozen or so annotation boxes per video make them really difficult to watch.
Started the titles a long time ago and they are part of the deal. Fortunately, the really horrible pukey green one is the CR one and doesn't need to be read - it is an effort ot protect me from the YT wolves. The black on yellow is 50s-ish, but it is what it is. Only a few seconds these days, but these older videos it goes up to 10 or more which is a burden!
The font is an absolute. Please read my channel for more information on it.
Started the titles a long time ago and they are part of the deal. Fortunately, the really horrible pukey green one is the CR one and doesn't need to be read - it is an effort ot protect me from the YT wolves. The black on yellow is 50s-ish, but it is what it is. Only a few seconds these days, but these older videos it goes up to 10 or more which is a burden!
The font is an absolute. Please read my channel for more information on it.
How can you tell whether or not her hair or clothes are burned? What can you tell from the grainy pixelated 2001 style images? 3 megapixels was an insane amount back then so this really doesn't prove anything for all you know she's covered in third degree burns and you'd never be able to tell.
the woman waving from the gaping hole,the man who survived the head on collision of a 767 by hiding behing his desk,the passport thats stronger than any black box,the 6 ton engine that "landed" on murray street without knocking down any of the surrounding scaffolding or making a crator in the street,the shanksville crash with zero wreckage,the pentagon plane that evaded all cctv.
@Fizzydog77 holy shit kiddo....what bullshit have you been taught in school.
do you believe the "official" conspiracy theory....the one where your supposed to believe that the shanksville flight buried itself into the earth,the same one where "alledgedly" 95% of it was recovered...and you think it was incinerated...
and who the fuck told you the planes were travelling at....700 (plus) mph...
you seriously need to get together with some of your fellow sheep and compare notes.
@Fizzydog77 take an empty aluminium coke can,place it on the ground and jump on it with as much force as possible...if the can slices through your foot intact and leaves you in a pile on the floor then maybe you could be right.........and do you still believe the "planes" were travelling at 700 mph ?
@kansasinnovember Doesn't work the same. A plane crashing horizontally into a large building building is not the same as a human jumping on a coke can. Nowhere near it.
@kansasinnovember LMAO! So let me get this straight: You are comparing, the average man jumping on an aluminum soda can with a 300,000lb boeing commercial airliner packed with 24,000 gallons of jet fue traveling at 560mph (not 700)l? Buahahahahahahhaha!
@NowKillYourself actually i was taking the piss with the "soda can" comment,i was trying to stir up a bit of banter with some kid who thought the "planes" were flying at 700 mph,but as we all know there were no planes on 9/11,just an excercise in mass bullshit by the media and government....we all know that hollow aluminium planes would never slice through the steel structured towers without losing their fragile wing tips & tail-sections while the nose cone emerges through the opposite side.
@kansasinnovember Actually those nose didn't emerge through the other side. The landing gear and several pieces of titanium from the engine did however.. What did you honestly expect to happen when a 200 ton commercial jet filled with 24k gallons of jet fuel slammed into the South Tower at 223 meters per second? Did you think it was going to bounce off? LOL! Tell me, how do they get water to cut through steel? How did the Titanic sink? How do copper bullets penetrate steel?
All of the studio hosts on 911 said they saw UA175 go all the way through, beginning with Jim Ryan on FOX. The official graphic of the UA175 hole shows that neither engine got through. YOu probably didn't see it.
But this video is about the woman in the hole we call Edna Cintron; she proved no fire just like the video says.
@NowKillYourself the nose cone did emerge out of the other side...absolutely proving these planes were amateurish cgi fakes,i suggest you go back and study the "original" footage...the footage where the tv stations used the fade to black and their station logos / banners to try and hide it.
the biggest event in the histiory of mankind and these professional media men tried to fucking "miss it"
@kansasinnovember Gee, copper/lead vs steel. Copper and lead has no problem penetrating steel, concrete, brick, etc, when it's fired from a gun. How fast do you think those aluminum planes were going? The same speed as a bullet. You're a perfect example of the morons around 911 conspiracy that have NO understanding of physics. I guess that aluminum commercial jet should've bounced of the WTC and Pentagon right? Because it's aluminum and aluminum is softer than steel. LOL! IDIOT! Kill yourself.
I was in the North Tower when the first missle hit,yes it was a missle not a plane,i watched and heard bombs going off for the whole 45 mins before i got out,this is a inside job and since the goverment controlls the courts,americans will never know the truth,so just be good little sheeple for Obama
Most of the jet fuel shot burned up outside the building and went down the elevator shafts. Apparently there wasn't alot left to burn. But the things that did catch alight burned for a while and caught other objects and internal structure alight as well. This stuff burned long and hot enough to weaken the metal enough that it would bow or bend. Thus the structure was weakened and collapsed. :)
@GregOBehave So, how come the jet fuel where we could see it, did what burning jet fuel does; roared upward in a mahgnificant fireball, yet, where we could not see it, it disobeyed the laws of thermodynamics and went down?
@CNN911Fakes Yes, with an explosion anything is possible in a closed space. All the energy from the explosion has to go somewhere. Most of it went up in the famous fireball outside the building, the fuel in the building found its way through offices, windows and down in elevators, until all the energie is spread out. The shockwave goes ever further and all the way down to the lobby.
@CNN911Fakes Anything that creates a shockwave is an explosion and every explosion is basicly something burning but with a lot of energie, heat and fast.
Fact is that most of the fuel, lets say 70% of it, went up outside the building. The other 30% didnt and found its way through the building.
@CNN911Fakes And you, like milions, probably saw thousands of office papers flying through the air. Which indicates there's more of it in the building. Along with computers, chairs, desks and all the other stuff that you will find in a office building. It all burns. Since more than 10 floors were on fire that means there is a lot of fuel for the fire to heat up. Combine that with a giant hole in the central collum due to a plane impact. The structure was very very weak and the fire made it worse
@CNN911Fakes Fire can weaken steal. Its not an unusual thing. Its been done every day in stealfactorys. Heat up the steal and it weakens.
To indicate how fast fire's heaten up.
Firefighters who train in a flashover container have to deal with temperatures over 800 degrees just by burning a couple wooden planks. I also suggest you watch the youtube movie "Christmas tree fire". Shows you how fast fires heaten up and spreads.
Um, excuse me, but how can you see if her hands, face and pants are clean?! No one else can since the photo is too far away to tell. You're talking absolute shit. She obviously came from a lower floor in order to get fresh air, as not to choke on the smoke and die. You weren't inside there. You have no fucking idea what it was like. So how can you say whether or not she could be there? Clearly she was. End of. And you can see her mascara can you?! 'lol OK
@GregOBehave Because, unlike you, I have seen all (that I can find so far) of her images, especially the ones in the official NIST and FEMA documents.
@CNN911Fakes You're dumb. I'm not even going to debate the plane not being there because you're just bizarre for that. I live in NY...too many people saw it..it's proven. As far as the collapse goes, steel can lose 50% of it's support in temperatures at least 1,200 degrees F. At 1,400 F couple in with 90,000 liters of jet fuel and various combustible items inside, the support beams lost support..detaching the vertical columns from the angle clips, outside perimeter were then free to extend out.
Respond to this video... The perimeter walls extended out considerably tall before breaking and crashing, hitting WTC7 400ft away. That is what gave it the distance. We're talking about a 1300ft. building coming down. You can't prove physics from reading something ya moron. Physicist's are constantly testing the laws of science. What do you think Lab was for in high school? Did you even go? There are way too many variables here that you're unaware of. Take this crap down.
Um, why fake photos of 9/11 like this? What would be the point? There are many photos of this hole with people standing in it from different angles. They clearly made their way to the hole after the fires died down and they were able to. It's not rocket science. Stop looking for conspiracy in every little thing. It's pathetic. Why fake smoke? There was tonnes of smoke caused by a fucking plane hitting the building! Dumbasses.
@Glassbows I will not pursue mindless inquiries. She is in the NIST and FEMA documents exceedingly, although, as I say in the description, ignored in their comments.
I have no evidence that she is not a proper part of the image she occurs in. I am happy to see proof I am wrong, but a discussion of speculation I will not participate in.
Give us some evidence, in the image itself, that she is photoshopped into the image.
Well, let's see what you disagree with. The video shows that the person we refer to as Edna Cintron was at the wtc1 hole in the jim Huibregtse (Time magazine photographer) video by 8:46, seconds after the official start.
If you disagree with that, please tell us why and what facts you might have to support yourself.
@Glassbows Hydrogen and stupidity are the most abundant things in the universe. And it's people like you that make stupidity so abundant. Please, don't be a dick just because you think your smarter then everyone else. Oh, and learn English grammar, you useless tool.
@Glassbows So, the reason you are lurking around and spamming my video?
This video accurately reports Jim Huibregtse. The person we refer to as Edna Cintron was in the wtc1 hole by 8:46, mere seconds after the official start of the attack.
Conspiracy theorists are idiots. Enough said.
lisamarieindc 2 weeks ago
@lisamarieindc Indeed. I am surprised you were able to spell all those words correctly.
But, there is a neat characteristic of research, which I am sure you have not yet started; if the propositions are wrong, they will quickly fail. If they are right, the more research the more one finds supporting them.
Over 300 videos from intensive research; never even a hint of error.
Thanks for visiting and posting a comment.
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@lmfecher
In what parallel universe is speculation an argument? You don't know how she bought the house or how she paid for it.
Try coming up with an argument that you can prove. My argument is that no coroner would sign off on a body that they haven't seen and that the SSDI is compiled from coroner data. Find some hard evidence to debate that, not speculation.
thegirl44 3 weeks ago
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thegirl44 3 weeks ago
Lameness...
okisoba 1 month ago
If you dont use the "Disney" font, ppl may take your uploads a little more seriously
0mac84 1 month ago
@0mac84 If I don't use the disney font, one set of perps gets a by.
CNN911Fakes 1 month ago
did you see all those THOUSANDS of americans FALSELY claiming they were at the towers so they could get compo. some even collected body parts and said its there loved ones. disgusting . while bible says all those that killed themselves by jumping to get away from burning are in hellfire burning forever. TALK ABOUT IRONY.
sajakram1 2 months ago
yeah... and those planes that we have seen from all the other video sources where all inserted as well.... an interpolation from a French source... another Muslim state
KirtCortez 3 months ago
@KirtCortez Pick a "planes" video. Good chance I have proven it's a fake. But, be assured, every video of planes at the wtc on 911 has been proven faked by many different researchers. Those proffs are for the truly ignorant who are guillible enough to think that a 1/8th inch aluminum can can slice through 2 feet of structural steel and 210 feet of reinforced concrete without breaking up.
Can't. Ddidn't happen.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes I have seen pine needles go through trees, creosote poles, you an inkling the force that takes? Did you see the crater left by United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania,Shanksville? It was huge! And not one piece of a body nor of the plane could be found...That plane traveling the speed that it was plus the weight could very easily slice right through that building and it no doubt did..Jesse Ventura, is an idiot! And to call those of us who know better ignorant is laughably childish...
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
@Swampwabbit77 This video is about Edna Cintron. See if you can find a video that discusses what you want to discuss.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Your comment though was about the planes being fake, and the doubt cast on their penetrating the Towers structure, and fire was indeed what I commented on. If your comment was to lead a discussion on Edna Cintron and not also the the commercial jets doubtful penetration, why then include it. You stated that her makeup was untouched, I commented that was impossible, as I have seen hundreds of bodies that have fallen lesser heights making one hell of a mess shredding apart the body?
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
@Swampwabbit77 Edna Cintron as pictured was less than 20 feet from a fire that melted steel according to the official lie. Nope.
Edna Cintron's pants stayed white, despite having worked her way through the soot of a kerosene fire. Nope.
The wind was blowing into her face (NW at 9) yet wouldn't blow through the hole she was standing in. Nope.
Finally, why didn't someone go pick up some of those people's bodies that had fallen? According to the official lie, no bodies were ever found.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes:nearly 2,800 victims, fewer than 300 whole bodies found, fewer than 1,600 victims identified, over 1,100 victims remain unidentified, over 800 victims identified by DNA alone, nearly 20,000 pieces of bodies found, over 6,000 pieces small enough to fit in test-tubes, over 200 pieces
matched to single person, nearly 10,000 unidentified pieces frozen for future analysis. This is what happens to bodies that jump those heights and the many who had tons of concrete fall upon them!
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
@Swampwabbit77 Where is the proof of this?
Did you know we never got and still haven't got, official flight manifests? The US attorney at the Moussaoui trial perjured himself by pretending he had one. He didn't.
You neglected my question; why didn't they retreive any of the bodies of the people who fell? No one, by the way, jumped. That accusation is disgusting.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes: I answered your question and posted the number of those who were not retrieved. As far as the flight manifest goes I need to research it. People most certainly did jump "YEP" and there are hundreds of pictures showing them hanging from outside the the towers and then jumping. What is so disgusting? People jump when the threat of burning alive overwhelms them. I would and thousands of humans have repeated that very horrible act, it's what we do when threatened in such a way...
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
@Swampwabbit77 Noticed you have not returned with the original flight manifests. I also wish to point out that what you suggest in the following quote is impossible
"there are hundreds of pictures showing them hanging from outside the the towers and then jumping"
Please tell all of us how a person who is hanging manages a "jump"?
The truth about humans is that they won't jump from a fire easily even when there is a landing net controled by rescuers trying to save them. "Jumpers" is a lie
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Part 2/2, However, the buildings were destroyed in a manner that converted most of their non-metallic contents to homogeneous dust, including the bodies. This destruction of the bodies assured that no exact determination could ever be made regarding who was piloting the jets at impact, and the condition of the people on board.
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
Part 1/2", The aircraft impacts and fires in all probability would not have destroyed a single body beyond positive identification. Nor have building collapses ever been known to destroy human remains beyond recognition.
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
@Swampwabbit77 A building collapse was never known to destroy a body beyond recognition.. but those were all buildings not nearly as tall as the wtcs
TheDon5736 1 month ago
@CNN911Fakes By the way, the weight of those engines are several tons, your calculations are baseless, and the engines themselves could easily rip open those buildings and some. And if your hanging outside those buildings as she was, she wouldn't have been expose to the direct heat and when she was, she jumped, you can bet too that her makeup would have been messed up upon impact. I have seen many jumpers and their faces and heads are mush, she was pudding after hitting the ground, her makeup to
Swampwabbit77 3 months ago
is anyone else just glad that we're all here to interact about such occurrences?
mortemdrummer 3 months ago
@mortemdrummer Yes. And we must seek justice for those who aren't and freedom from oppression for those yet to come.
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CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
lol roast cockroaches random
mortemdrummer 3 months ago
Who identified this woman as "Edna Cintron" and why isn't she listed on the Social Security Death Index as dying on 9/11?
We were told that 3,000 people died on 9/11. However, I find it extremely disturbing that MOST of the 9/11 "victims" including the firefighters DO NOT show up on the Social Security Death Index as dying on 9/11. How do I know this? I checked it myself.
lmfecher 4 months ago 10
@lmfecher I haven't researched her, but the earliest mention was, don't be surprised, the New York Times. Had a very touching story. All lies.
Thanks for your message. The Social Security data is dead, so to speak, on!
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@lmfecher
She was Canadian. I cant seem to find the actually ssdi site but maybe it is because they were not pronounced or declared dead, but missing on 9/11. Does the ssdi go by the time you are declared dead, or by the day you do die? Please inform me if you find any info.
MegaYeshua33 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33 Thanks for your comment. The original New York Times article, as I recall, did not mention her nationality.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33
It's easy to find the Social Security Death Index, all you have to do is GOOGLE it. We were told that they had identified ALL the 9/11 victims via DNA. If that's the case, then ALL of the "victims" of 9/11 should show up on the SSDI but they don't. Only about 10% show up. Check it yourself.
lmfecher 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33 I repeatedly googled it, And No official gov ssdi site comes up.
MegaYeshua33 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33 If you geninely can't find the Social Security Death Index,then how on earth are you going to find out the truth concerning 9/11....or are you expecting the media to spoonfeed you their version of the truth.
kansasinnovember 3 months ago
@kansasinnovember
Well said! That's the problem, people are too lazy to do their own research or too brain dead to care.
lmfecher 3 months ago
@kansasinnovember Link it.
MegaYeshua33 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33 The story of Edna Cintron is as believable as the story of Stanley Praimnath,the guy who survived the head on collision with a 767 by hiding behind his office desk which must have been made from materials stronger than the steel structured tower (sarcasm),as for you asking for a link to the SSDI...find it yourself and stop expecting everyone else to do your donkey work,i'm assuming you have a brain..use it.
kansasinnovember 3 months ago
@kansasinnovember So you cant find the ssdi?
MegaYeshua33 3 months ago
@MegaYeshua33
ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry DOT com.....fill in the search criteria and compare it with the rest of september '01.
kansasinnovember 3 months ago
@lmfecher
Coroners provide the information for the SSDI, Coroners don't sign off on bodies that they haven't seen.
thegirl44 3 weeks ago
@thegirl44
All DNA evidence found was sent to Dover. They supposedly identified all of the "victims". Yet, only about 10% of the names on the 9/11 victims list show up on the SSDI as dying on 9/11. In order for insurance to be paid out to the families, the "victims" had to be declared dead.
Nice try, though....
lmfecher 3 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Yes, they identified the victims, that's not the same as signing off on a body.
You're absolutely right, it's a bullshit bureaucratic holdup that should have been dealt with ages ago but, as a comparison, it took 23 years for some families to get a widow's pension out of the Army after WW2 for the same reason: No body, no all fired important piece of paper from a coroner.
thegirl44 3 weeks ago
@thegirl44
If they identified the victims through DNA testing, why wouldn't they sign off the death certificates?
lmfecher 3 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Because the coroner wouldn't have been the one to do the identification and because signing off on a death certificate has the caveat, in the wording of the document, that you have handled and identified the body. Signing off on a death certificate is a huge legal responsibility which is why certain cases, like going MIA in war or 9/11, is left up to bureaucracy as opposed to an individual coroner and this holds up SSDI recognition and insurance payouts, unfortunately..
thegirl44 3 weeks ago
@thegirl44
They took the body parts to DOVER, a military installation. They said they identified the victims through DNA. Tell me, what coroner are you talking about?
lmfecher 3 weeks ago
@lmfecher
ANY coroner, even a military one.
The legality involved in signing off on a death certificate is not something that is open to interpretation nor does it allow for extraordinary circumstances like 9/11. The SSDI is compiled from these death certificates. If you don't have a body, and DNA identification is not the same as having an actual corpse, you have to go through the long and arduous process of having someone declared legally dead.
thegirl44 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Part 2
I'm as curious as everyone else as to why it is taking the government so long to declare the victims legally dead I just don't think that there's anything sinister or conspiratorial about it. The government is the furthest thing from a well oiled and operationally sound machine so I'd imagine that it's some bureaucratic bullshit holding up the declaration.
You wondered why the SSDI didn't list the victims and not having the paperwork from a coroner is why.
thegirl44 2 weeks ago
@thegirl44
You're curious why it's taking so long to declare the victims legally dead? LMFAO! Seriously? The government still won't mention Building 7!
lmfecher 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher Your tolerance is amazing! But I realize we may be the crest of the "fix the SSDI problem" wave
Do you recall they obliterated the take offs and landings database when the fact that neither AA plane ever took off on 9/11. They retroactively repaired the "planes in service" database when people discovered that all 4 planes were still certified.
Clearly, SSDI will adjust the stats soon, based on the balderdash your foil has been saying. They will claim they were prohibitted by law!
CNN911Fakes 2 weeks ago
@CNN911Fakes
Don't forget that UA 175 was reported by the MSM as still in the air flying around AFTER WTC 2 had been "hit" by it!!
I don't think they'll adjust the SSDI stats anytime soon. Why should they when the majority of the sheeple still believe the "official story"?
lmfecher 2 weeks ago
@CNN911Fakes
By the way, keep up the good work!! I enjoy your videos very much. ;-)
lmfecher 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher Thanks. Appreciation and encouragement are what keep the machine running! YT/Google is hiding me these days, so it's a little discouraging. I suppose it will be worse once the improvements are fully implemented.
CNN911Fakes 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Part 3
The government is the entity responsible for declaring these victims. They would send the SSDI a declaration stating that the person is dead in lieu of a coroner's cert. . I don't know why the government wouldn't have bypassed the standard formality of a certain amount of time having to have passed before issuing the declaration in this circumstance but they haven't.
It's an embarrassing bureaucratic blunder, to be sure, try not to read anything into it beyond that.
thegirl44 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Part 4
Another example where this lengthy process of declaring someone legally dead happens is in an ocean plane crash where the bodies can't be recovered. All the evidence is there that makes it reasonable to assume that no one on board survived but you still have to have your loved one declared legally dead.
It really is the idiotic formality that I'm sure you have it pegged as but it's a formality put in place to legally protect people in my line of work.
thegirl44 2 weeks ago
@thegirl44
If all these people weren't declared dead by a coroner or by the government, then please explain to me why they aren't listed as missing? Why would they say that they've identifed the dead through DNA, but not DECLARE them dead? Dead, but not listed as dead? Why would they be listed on many 9/11 victims' lists and why would they erect a multi-million dollar monument to them at Ground Zero?
Government bought and paid for coroners. Reminds me of the whole JFK bullshit story.
lmfecher 2 weeks ago
@lmfecher
Part 2
I once worked on a case where the police absolutely, without question knew that it was a suicide but they didn't have a body for me.
The man's widow had to go through the lengthy process of having her husband declared legally dead by the government (This can take anywhere from 8-14 years depending on the jurisdiction).
No coroner is going to sign off on a body they haven't seen on the off chance that that body could show up, alive, somewhere in the future.
thegirl44 3 weeks ago
if you want us to read your text put it in a colour that does not class with the background
stevepjk 4 months ago
@stevepjk That's right.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
This is the 2nd dumb vid I have seen from this guy. He needs to get a life.
hunsadersrockinranch 4 months ago
@hunsadersrockinranch Yeah, and his Disney font must do wonders for his credibility.
DiCkRiChArDz 4 months ago
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The Shills/Trolls/Disinfo (S.T.Ds) on here are under total control from their Handlers/Orderers/Masters/Owners (H.O.M.Os). Basically the HOMOs spread their STDs to try and infect free speech about 9/11 and stop people from spreading the truth, about 9/11 begging ppl to shut up, i wont do it, its so obvious and blatant, yet another false flag slaughtering 3000 innocent ppl, its disgusting, and the perps will burn in hell for it!
wellifthemediasaysit 4 months ago
Is this the woman version of Steven Hawkins?
TheMidgetHarry 4 months ago 5
@TheMidgetHarry I am not familiar with Steven Hawkins. Please enlighten me.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
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@CNN911Fakes Smartest guy alive right now I think.
EpicLapse 4 months ago
@CNN911Fakes why don't you just let all the "kids" know that the Disney font is used to hi-light the fact that all planes seen on 9/11 are "Cartoons" (CGI Fakes)
kansasinnovember 3 months ago
Just checking in to see how the lunatics are doing... carry on.
MyAccount4TrollingU 4 months ago
muslims r evil . they drink blood of innocents
oomshantiom 4 months ago
Edna i love you Godbless your soul.
arnold1984t1000 4 months ago
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@supercowy why do you think you have so many dislike???
junjie325 4 months ago
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The Shills/Trolls/Disinfo (S.T.Ds) on here are under total control from their Handlers/Orderers/Masters/Owners (H.O.M.Os). Basically the HOMOs spread their STDs to try and infect free speech about 9/11 and stop people from spreading the truth, about 9/11 begging ppl to shut up, i wont do it, its so obvious and blatant, yet another false flag slaughtering 3000 innocent ppl, its disgusting, and the perps will burn in hell for it!
wellifthemediasaysit 4 months ago
The most photographed victim, yet you can't show us a single clear picture but just a very low quality video. wth...
supercowy 4 months ago
@supercowy Can't read, huh?
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Nope can't read your fancy disney style font.+ too much stupid information in the description.
supercowy 4 months ago
@supercowy Then I guess you'll stay ignorant.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
what a fruitcake
goner2008 4 months ago
@goner2008 Perhaps you have a point?
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@CNN911Fakes yes, i think you're a fruitcake.
goner2008 4 months ago
Get some facts here:
watch?v=sDPtiR4EQ2A
Kostafleer 4 months ago
Your Disney script is fucking annoying.
iEatBoneDust 4 months ago 10
Not stock footage, but is a chronicle of that day.. It is compositionally sound.. in that it is experienced in a way that it can hold you for 130 minutes, because it feels like you are there, but not in the unrelenting adrenaline rushed way that so many other programs about 9/11 do. This 9/11 story/chronicle is a human portrait of that day. Available on DVD. Check with channel that posted this.
Supersynapsis 4 months ago
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911farewell 4 months ago
this is stupid
DBZwatcher58 4 months ago
@DBZwatcher58 YOu are right, but I don't censor and even stupid comments are acceptable. Thanks.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
I often wondered what Charlie Sheen was up to since his last binge. Now I know.
Kiler5544 4 months ago
@Kiler5544 Does that mean you think someone was photographed more than the lady in the hole we call Edna Cintron, administrative assistant at Marsh McLennan (Mercer)?
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
Crock of Crap
MrRUShure 4 months ago
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wellifthemediasaysit 4 months ago
WTF IS THIS? there is supposed to be a woman in that gaping hole where a plane crashed? BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!!11!1
RocketQueenMS 5 months ago
@RocketQueenMS Yup! From 8:47 until10:28.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
BAD!!!...
stekel60 5 months ago
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dnicolmedia 5 months ago
@dnicolmedia said
"You're a dick, if you're gonna try and make out this huge tragedy is a fake, at least explain it in your own voice you fucking prick"
I didn't do that and I won't do that.
Oh, and I don't need vulgarity to be persausive; I need and use facts.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
Missiles, militar planes, planes with no windows, animations, tv manipulation, explosives, thermite... Wich of them you prefeer? Poor assholes.
CarlosBcn1989 5 months ago
@CarlosBcn1989 Interesting.
Perhaps you got a bad server response; this video doesn't deal with any of those subjects.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CarlosBcn1989 Interesting.
Perhaps you got a bad server response; this video doesn't deal with any of those subjects.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CarlosBcn1989 Interesting.
Perhaps you got a bad server response; this video doesn't deal with any of those subjects.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Maybe, but you have a lot of them.
CarlosBcn1989 5 months ago
lol. Mac computer voice generator. Paranoid much?
sketchadams 5 months ago
@sketchadams Yup!
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes lol. You should be more paranoid about using the Disney font then of the U.S. government. Mickey will be outside your bedroom window ready to pounce. muah!
sketchadams 5 months ago
@sketchadams Thank God for Copyright protection; protects the little creators like me!
OH, wait, it only protects those with the money to defend their CR! Mickey has billions, I am broke. My CR ain't worth the TP it's written on (as you know, the CR is not written until the job is done)!
I was very worried 280 videos (YT has squashed 5), 4 years and 6.2 million views ago. Still worried, but much less. More worried about getting the facts straight. Have made a mistake or 2 along the way.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes I have no idea what you just wrote but good luck to you my friend.
sketchadams 5 months ago
@sketchadams That's too bad. CR is how much of the criminal evidence is being withheld from the American public.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
you have the IQ of a brick
kneel 5 months ago
@kneel Oh, that's hard!
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
Check your facts and do some research jackass.... She blessed herself,looked up to the sky and jumped.....u know why????? Cause she wanted to end her torture!!!
kirbs523 5 months ago
Yeah I am right she did jump
kirbs523 5 months ago
@cnn911fakes....yeah she did do some research before u come to conclusions
kirbs523 5 months ago
@kirbs523 Yup, you're right. That is why I checked the NIST reports, the FEMA reports, thousands of images and hundred of hours of video. She was there the whole time.
The woman in the hole we refer to as Edna Cintron proves all the things I say she proves, and more. Nothing about her supports the official lie. Nothing
You are welcome to prove otherwise. Find an unaltered image of the wtc1 hole where she does not also appear. She does not appear only in grossly fabricated ones-like NYPD.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
U conspiracy theorists crack me up. Like u can tell from that blurry ass photo of her if she dirty or burnt. Oh yeah and by the way why would she climb down 3 flights of stairs and not go all the way down cause If her floor was impacted and she was able to go down 3 flights that tells u that the stairwell was still intact . Oh yeah and If the fire wasn't hot then why did she jump to her death
kirbs523 5 months ago
@kirbs523 There are images of her in the hole until the tower was destroyed; she did not jump.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
Hey man, I like your videos and love what you're doing, but the Disney font, clashing colors, and the dozen or so annotation boxes per video make them really difficult to watch.
cauberallies 5 months ago
@cauberallies Thanks for your support.
Started the titles a long time ago and they are part of the deal. Fortunately, the really horrible pukey green one is the CR one and doesn't need to be read - it is an effort ot protect me from the YT wolves. The black on yellow is 50s-ish, but it is what it is. Only a few seconds these days, but these older videos it goes up to 10 or more which is a burden!
The font is an absolute. Please read my channel for more information on it.
Still working!
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@cauberallies Thanks for your support.
Started the titles a long time ago and they are part of the deal. Fortunately, the really horrible pukey green one is the CR one and doesn't need to be read - it is an effort ot protect me from the YT wolves. The black on yellow is 50s-ish, but it is what it is. Only a few seconds these days, but these older videos it goes up to 10 or more which is a burden!
The font is an absolute. Please read my channel for more information on it.
Still working!
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
How can you tell whether or not her hair or clothes are burned? What can you tell from the grainy pixelated 2001 style images? 3 megapixels was an insane amount back then so this really doesn't prove anything for all you know she's covered in third degree burns and you'd never be able to tell.
wompasdub 5 months ago
Yeah, it is SO clear from this picture that she was totally clean. I mean, c'mon? How much clearer can it be? DOLTS
tikkaman100 5 months ago
the woman waving from the gaping hole,the man who survived the head on collision of a 767 by hiding behing his desk,the passport thats stronger than any black box,the 6 ton engine that "landed" on murray street without knocking down any of the surrounding scaffolding or making a crator in the street,the shanksville crash with zero wreckage,the pentagon plane that evaded all cctv.
19 muslims vs the USA..
aluminium vs steel..
...and the winner is.....propaganda
kansasinnovember 5 months ago 19
@kansasinnovember You are an idiot...that is all!
medik415 5 months ago
@medik415 Like all factless people, you presented no facts. @kansasinnovember did present facts.
You should try it; it is good for freedom and helps resist oppression.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@kansasinnovember In case you're wondering, all of those have easy explanations, but even more so:
For your first, if the woman was caught in an explosion, how would she have survived? It would be luck either way with all three of those.
Shanksville was incinerated; nothing more.
19 muslims vs. lightly protected airlines. They really just needed to overpower the operators.
And the aluminium was travelling at 700+. Need I explain more?
Fizzydog77 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 holy shit kiddo....what bullshit have you been taught in school.
do you believe the "official" conspiracy theory....the one where your supposed to believe that the shanksville flight buried itself into the earth,the same one where "alledgedly" 95% of it was recovered...and you think it was incinerated...
and who the fuck told you the planes were travelling at....700 (plus) mph...
you seriously need to get together with some of your fellow sheep and compare notes.
kansasinnovember 5 months ago
@kansasinnovember "Sheep"
Suddenly, you arguement is invalid.
Fizzydog77 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 you think my arguement is invailid.....what...because i called you a "sheep"...,just let me ask you one question..
do you stand by your claim that commercial airliners can travel at over 700 mph at low altitude ?
kansasinnovember 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 How fast must I throw an egg at a solid wooden door so that it will pass through unbroken and leave an egg-shaped hole in the door?
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes I don't think that comparison works right.
Fizzydog77 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 OK, If a 767 moves 5 mph into a single 14 inch structural steel box column stuck 100 feet down into the bedrock, which breaks?
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 take an empty aluminium coke can,place it on the ground and jump on it with as much force as possible...if the can slices through your foot intact and leaves you in a pile on the floor then maybe you could be right.........and do you still believe the "planes" were travelling at 700 mph ?
kansasinnovember 5 months ago
@kansasinnovember Doesn't work the same. A plane crashing horizontally into a large building building is not the same as a human jumping on a coke can. Nowhere near it.
Fizzydog77 5 months ago
@Fizzydog77 Glad to see you back. YOu seem to have forgotten my follow up question
"If a 767 moves 5 mph into a single 14 inch structural steel box column stuck 100 feet down into the bedrock, which breaks"
C'mon, do a physics analysis similar to your newton's 4th law you just did.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@kansasinnovember LMAO! So let me get this straight: You are comparing, the average man jumping on an aluminum soda can with a 300,000lb boeing commercial airliner packed with 24,000 gallons of jet fue traveling at 560mph (not 700)l? Buahahahahahahhaha!
NowKillYourself 4 months ago
@NowKillYourself actually i was taking the piss with the "soda can" comment,i was trying to stir up a bit of banter with some kid who thought the "planes" were flying at 700 mph,but as we all know there were no planes on 9/11,just an excercise in mass bullshit by the media and government....we all know that hollow aluminium planes would never slice through the steel structured towers without losing their fragile wing tips & tail-sections while the nose cone emerges through the opposite side.
kansasinnovember 4 months ago
@kansasinnovember Actually those nose didn't emerge through the other side. The landing gear and several pieces of titanium from the engine did however.. What did you honestly expect to happen when a 200 ton commercial jet filled with 24k gallons of jet fuel slammed into the South Tower at 223 meters per second? Did you think it was going to bounce off? LOL! Tell me, how do they get water to cut through steel? How did the Titanic sink? How do copper bullets penetrate steel?
NowKillYourself 4 months ago
@NowKillYourself Trolling much?
All of the studio hosts on 911 said they saw UA175 go all the way through, beginning with Jim Ryan on FOX. The official graphic of the UA175 hole shows that neither engine got through. YOu probably didn't see it.
But this video is about the woman in the hole we call Edna Cintron; she proved no fire just like the video says.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@NowKillYourself the nose cone did emerge out of the other side...absolutely proving these planes were amateurish cgi fakes,i suggest you go back and study the "original" footage...the footage where the tv stations used the fade to black and their station logos / banners to try and hide it.
the biggest event in the histiory of mankind and these professional media men tried to fucking "miss it"
kansasinnovember 4 months ago
@kansasinnovember Gee, copper/lead vs steel. Copper and lead has no problem penetrating steel, concrete, brick, etc, when it's fired from a gun. How fast do you think those aluminum planes were going? The same speed as a bullet. You're a perfect example of the morons around 911 conspiracy that have NO understanding of physics. I guess that aluminum commercial jet should've bounced of the WTC and Pentagon right? Because it's aluminum and aluminum is softer than steel. LOL! IDIOT! Kill yourself.
NowKillYourself 4 months ago
I was in the North Tower when the first missle hit,yes it was a missle not a plane,i watched and heard bombs going off for the whole 45 mins before i got out,this is a inside job and since the goverment controlls the courts,americans will never know the truth,so just be good little sheeple for Obama
HardCoreFreak67 5 months ago
How come WTC 7 which wasnt hit by a plane still collapsed in the same way as WTC 1 and 2 did?
spitfire1936 5 months ago
didnt she jump out?
burkdogg21 5 months ago
@burkdogg21 No, never did, best I can tell from the photgraphic record of her being in the hole from start to finish.
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surfingfrenchman 5 months ago
@Glassbows No, but I hope it'll make you realize that your an intolerant, hypocritical, slacker. Those are not insults, just mere facts.
muderaffi 5 months ago
Most of the jet fuel shot burned up outside the building and went down the elevator shafts. Apparently there wasn't alot left to burn. But the things that did catch alight burned for a while and caught other objects and internal structure alight as well. This stuff burned long and hot enough to weaken the metal enough that it would bow or bend. Thus the structure was weakened and collapsed. :)
GregOBehave 5 months ago
@GregOBehave So, how come the jet fuel where we could see it, did what burning jet fuel does; roared upward in a mahgnificant fireball, yet, where we could not see it, it disobeyed the laws of thermodynamics and went down?
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Yes, with an explosion anything is possible in a closed space. All the energy from the explosion has to go somewhere. Most of it went up in the famous fireball outside the building, the fuel in the building found its way through offices, windows and down in elevators, until all the energie is spread out. The shockwave goes ever further and all the way down to the lobby.
Wouter112 5 months ago
@Wouter112 Doesn't your speech bother you? How can you contradict yourself in such close proximity. You said
"anything is possible in a closed space"
and then
"went up in the famous fireball outside the building"
The outside is not a closed space and once the famous holes were made, there were no closed spaces to work with.
Jet fuel does not explode; it burns.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Anything that creates a shockwave is an explosion and every explosion is basicly something burning but with a lot of energie, heat and fast.
Fact is that most of the fuel, lets say 70% of it, went up outside the building. The other 30% didnt and found its way through the building.
Wouter112 5 months ago
And no, my speech doenst botter me at all. What botters me is that people forgot what they have learned on school about physics and chemistry.
Wouter112 5 months ago
@Wouter112 Indeed!
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes And you, like milions, probably saw thousands of office papers flying through the air. Which indicates there's more of it in the building. Along with computers, chairs, desks and all the other stuff that you will find in a office building. It all burns. Since more than 10 floors were on fire that means there is a lot of fuel for the fire to heat up. Combine that with a giant hole in the central collum due to a plane impact. The structure was very very weak and the fire made it worse
Wouter112 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Fire can weaken steal. Its not an unusual thing. Its been done every day in stealfactorys. Heat up the steal and it weakens.
To indicate how fast fire's heaten up.
Firefighters who train in a flashover container have to deal with temperatures over 800 degrees just by burning a couple wooden planks. I also suggest you watch the youtube movie "Christmas tree fire". Shows you how fast fires heaten up and spreads.
Wouter112 5 months ago
Um, excuse me, but how can you see if her hands, face and pants are clean?! No one else can since the photo is too far away to tell. You're talking absolute shit. She obviously came from a lower floor in order to get fresh air, as not to choke on the smoke and die. You weren't inside there. You have no fucking idea what it was like. So how can you say whether or not she could be there? Clearly she was. End of. And you can see her mascara can you?! 'lol OK
GregOBehave 5 months ago
@GregOBehave Because, unlike you, I have seen all (that I can find so far) of her images, especially the ones in the official NIST and FEMA documents.
Try it. It'll settle you.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@CNN911Fakes You're dumb. I'm not even going to debate the plane not being there because you're just bizarre for that. I live in NY...too many people saw it..it's proven. As far as the collapse goes, steel can lose 50% of it's support in temperatures at least 1,200 degrees F. At 1,400 F couple in with 90,000 liters of jet fuel and various combustible items inside, the support beams lost support..detaching the vertical columns from the angle clips, outside perimeter were then free to extend out.
WallStwizkid 5 months ago
Respond to this video... The perimeter walls extended out considerably tall before breaking and crashing, hitting WTC7 400ft away. That is what gave it the distance. We're talking about a 1300ft. building coming down. You can't prove physics from reading something ya moron. Physicist's are constantly testing the laws of science. What do you think Lab was for in high school? Did you even go? There are way too many variables here that you're unaware of. Take this crap down.
WallStwizkid 5 months ago
Um, why fake photos of 9/11 like this? What would be the point? There are many photos of this hole with people standing in it from different angles. They clearly made their way to the hole after the fires died down and they were able to. It's not rocket science. Stop looking for conspiracy in every little thing. It's pathetic. Why fake smoke? There was tonnes of smoke caused by a fucking plane hitting the building! Dumbasses.
GregOBehave 5 months ago
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Zacheroo 5 months ago
@Zacheroo Thanks for your comment. I am sorry you removed it.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows I will not pursue mindless inquiries. She is in the NIST and FEMA documents exceedingly, although, as I say in the description, ignored in their comments.
I have no evidence that she is not a proper part of the image she occurs in. I am happy to see proof I am wrong, but a discussion of speculation I will not participate in.
Give us some evidence, in the image itself, that she is photoshopped into the image.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows Cool. No one has ever been able to show the slightest halo or ghost that occurs with photoshopping images.
No, she is as real as the hole we are looking at.
Having said that, I certainly entertain you're proving she is photoshopped.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows said
"i disagree with the video"
Well, let's see what you disagree with. The video shows that the person we refer to as Edna Cintron was at the wtc1 hole in the jim Huibregtse (Time magazine photographer) video by 8:46, seconds after the official start.
If you disagree with that, please tell us why and what facts you might have to support yourself.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows Hydrogen and stupidity are the most abundant things in the universe. And it's people like you that make stupidity so abundant. Please, don't be a dick just because you think your smarter then everyone else. Oh, and learn English grammar, you useless tool.
muderaffi 5 months ago
The 9/11 Trilogy Songs
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"Fallen Towers" "Frank & Pablo" "The Waving Woman"
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alwaystheway 5 months ago
how can you spot sooty clothes and mascara stains on a 30x30 digitally enlarged shaky video??? shut up please
uraner 5 months ago
@uraner 100's of images of her, that's how. Many of them in the official documents produced by NIST and FEMA
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows So, the reason you are lurking around and spamming my video?
This video accurately reports Jim Huibregtse. The person we refer to as Edna Cintron was in the wtc1 hole by 8:46, mere seconds after the official start of the attack.
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago
@Glassbows Since, if you follow me at all, you know that I am confident that there is no true image of 911, I don't know what you mean.
This video is from a video released by NIST under the FOIA - jim huibregtse, a ti9me magazine photgrapher.
Public sources you can check your self
CNN911Fakes 5 months ago