This sounded actually pretty good, so the only thing i hate about dragonforce is that, by a joke or not, they say that they are better than others, way too proud of themselves.
@Worzx Ermm .. they have never ever said that buddy .. and i have read alot of interviews with the band. Find me a interview or a video where they said they were the best.
@lfcbenitez123 Okay i have to admit now that i was wrong, the only thing i heard them say was ''We're the coolest'' and ''there is nothing cooler than dragonforce'' (watch?v=iCEX1WRbIHs) but that ''attitude'' was something that got me thinking that way. and now that i think what they said, its nothing that bad.. but don't get me wrong, i love this band, they are AWESOME in studio AND live.
@Worzx Without even clicking the link you provided i know its the download festival video :P but yeah .. they are just kidding .. glad you realise that :)
i wish that this concert was recorded with good equipment, the person who recorded it used a phone or a camera, which is why people think dragonforce sucks live, but they played amazing in this concert, it would of been great if this was recorded with whatever equipment they use in concerts
@RockFan9927 It was recorded using a JVC Everio Z series. It isn't HD but did the job. You can now buy HD cams at the price I paid for this one - what a difference a year makes. I'm not a pro, so don't have professional equipment.
However, my recordings are the best available of this gig, so like it or lump it :) I'm not a professional, simply a fan who had a bloody sore arm the day after.
Aww, a year ago I had a chance to see them live in a festival, but my friends didn't want to go that day 'cause they were like only interesting band then. Never saw them with ZP and will never see them with ZP :(.
@CrazyRoflKid Because everyone saw the grasspop 06 vid and they think that dragonforce plays that way in all their shows. I honestly disagree, they have improved a lot, suck that ZP left :'(
Okay, first things first, great video, good quality and sound :) Second, Im assuming all the haters on this video saying "Dragonforce can't play live" can play a better live performance themselves?
I had some idea that the hater problem had blown over, given that these idiots never post on AeonOfOblivion's stuff.
I can remember watching this 2 Novembers ago right before my first DF show and not knowing what to expect when I went there.
I was blown away.
The energy that DF plays with live is unmatched by anything I've ever seen before. Technically, they were on the spot too. There wasn't a single guy in the crowd who had a bad time there.
@Firecrotch6979 More of you idiots again. I love how you gave no reason and ignored the musikmesse recordings where they've been totally solid, as well as any from 2009-2010.
You clearly hate them. You also seem determined to make things up to reinforce this idea. The haters made the "faking" thing up because they're over-sensitive purist assholes. I've seen DF twice, and they were fantastic and solid each time. Don't ever act like you know more than me about them, because trust me, you don't.
@IamTheLandolfo@IamTheLandolfo Hahaha Really? I don't ever want to know about them because they are trash. Even if they played their instruments like they did in the recordings, they still wouldn't be good. I'm sorry but people wouldn't just make up a "faking" thing if it wasn't true. How many other times do you see people claiming that another band is fake? None. The reason people claim they are fake is because they are.
@Firecrotch6979 Thing is though, you ARE an idiot if you honestly believe that they fake it. They wouldn't maintain a year and a half of sold out shows if they faked it. They wouldn't have been nominated for a Grammy award if they faked it. Herman wouldn't have won Metal Hammer's 2009 best shredder award if he faked it.
People made it up about them because they were an easy target: nerdy, bad live tour in 2006. And seriously, people wouldn't say it if it wasn't true? That's just plain naive.
@Firecrotch6979 "I don't ever want to know about them because they are trash".
The message that this line sends is: I know nothing at all and have know interest in learning because I'm SO close minded that no amount of information or education in the world could ever convince me to change my beliefs.
If you aren't interested in learning anything, what was the point of ever replying? You'll just make yourself look less and less educated and more like some backward hater following myths.
@IamTheLandolfo No, I look less educated because that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to make yourself look smart over the internet. I used to like DragonForce, and I do know plenty about them, but when I found out how bad they are live and how fake most of the music is, I stopped being interested. Get over yourself.
@Firecrotch6979 ironic. I cited several reasons why DF being fake makes no sense, and I wasn't the one who acted all self righteous and posted the first reply, but apparently I'm the one who needs to get over myself?
I am smart. I've spent years trying to figure out the fakeness thing, but both times I was at their shows, on numerous live videos (ie Graspop 09, Tokyo 09, Musikmesse 2010), and my thoughts about the human nature that drives people to tell lies, I've made my own opinion.
@IamTheLandolfo Wow, so you think people are just lying about it because they want to? If that's true why would they choose this band over any other? You don't make sense. The problem with DragonForce is the fact that they play fast and they think that that makes them good, and all of the fans think they are good just because they can play fast.
@Firecrotch6979 They'd choose DF over any other because most haters have the idea that DF's popularity stemmed from kids and video games. That's only true in the US, but metal purists hate it. People believe lots of stuff because they want to bro, just look at religion.
They don't think it makes them good. Herman's said numerous times that variety in musicality and speed is the key, not just straight up speed. He showed that when he wrote Disciples of Babylon, and the unusual solo bridge in it.
@Firecrotch6979 As far as the fan thing goes, I'm just as dismayed sometimes. They're good guitarists, but they're far from the best and they know it.
The way I see it, fans who think that they're the best guitarists ever simply because of speed are just as brainless as the people who think they're talentless posers, because there's plenty of evidence and ideas opposing both those positions.
people in the crowd need to learn not to sing along to the music if they aren't any good at it... lol good performance, tho. wish i could've heard the REAL vocals! dragonforce rules and whoever thinks they speed up their music is an idiot. live performances almost always sound crappy because they are always either slightly slowed down or sped up and/or the crowd never fricking shuts up!
I have yet to see one fucking video of those phony wankers actually playing they're own shit as it is on the recorded album. All cut-and-paste studio magic. Little kids watch the music videos and see that milli vanili finger synching and they think they just witnessed something real. Well... that live performance is proof that Dragon Farce sucks balls. It's not even debatable.
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@keeblercommander Man you'r not an idiot lol, that's just the truth. Even a guy who's playing guitar hero knows the studio version better than the actual band.
wow whats with the trolls on this video dragonforce are amazing if you dont think they are good then why search for thier videos and start acting like retards and talking shit saying their bad? they obviously aint bad they are one of the best speed metal bands going.
people that talk shit like to embarras themselves then millions of people love dragonforce
@sixthsnipe Wow, I can't believe how many people are really falling for this. They fake their music, just listen to how bad Herman Li is live... Come on, how can you guys be that stupid. By the way, I only searched for it to laugh at it because it's funny how bad they are live.
I would have to say dragon force i a clear example of why real bands dont use computers to soup up their sound. This sounds like shit compared to their album. Next time they should try to compose something they can actually play.
lol sam....playin one fret too high. Shit happens and yo gotta go with it. Cant say "oops, let me re-do that" playing live hehe. Saw them in September...almost perfect show.
dude ive seen them play live recently they play it perfectly. they obviously can fucking play it. DForce is amazing dude and Throught the fire and flames is one of their best songs, but there are parts of some of their songs that are crazier dude. Herman Li and Sam Totman are the real deal, theyre great guitarists
WOAHHHHHH your knowledge of basic musical theory surpasses everybody else's in the history of ever....take it from a musician with years of ex[erience AND who was at THIS VERY GIG, he's playin the HARMONY to what the 1st lead (herman) is playin...honestly dude....BASIC MUSIC THEORY
@guitarfreak661 are you like arrogant or something? listen to the studio album, at this gig he plays the pattern right but on the wrong frets newb... dont tell me what a damn harmony is , i just say that he plays the wrong frets smartass
@chris4laura Yeah, you're right, they do, but DragonForce fakes their guitar solos and half of everything else except the synthesizer and the vocals. All the guitars do in the song is play half assed licks and powerchords if you watch them. Any real guitarist can see how bad they are.
My point is that they are two different bands who play radically different styles of music - DF is power metal, Muse is... rock I suppose? The comparrison can't really be matched, unless Muse play a seriously fast and complicated song, or unless DF does a much slower, basic song.
Muse are also a worldwide mainstream band who can afford to do big shows @)
With 500 characters to use and attempting to cram many points into one comment, it's difficult to get the complete answer out.
I know Muse has the odd complicated song (I'll admit, I'm not a fan - They're a bit boring for me :P) but I don't doubt their talent and abilities. I feel however that Dragonforce is more intense and more complicated - I'm not a guitarist, but I can appreciate the skill it takes to do what they do (both bands - Not just DF).
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Muse is one of the most complex bands there is. As a listener of both I cannot fathom how anyone would agrue that df is more talented...or intense. If running around the stage screaming makes you intense, then I guess df wins. But trust me. I've seen both of them live and Muse wins by an incomparable margin. Muse is the best live band Ive ever seen. Herman is a great guitarist, but you have to remember playing guitar is more than just sweep picking as fast as you can. Muse > DF x 1000.
Or you can shut the hell up and get off the video if you don't like it? (not trying to be mean but really.....I don't want to go through tons of pages of arguments in the comments on every Dragonforce video"
Considering speed is part of Dragonforce, it's essential to their genre. If they weren't fast (and melodic at the same time) then they wouldn't be as popular (Not within the power metal fanbase anyway).
And as I finished that, I saw that again it was going to leave a sour note on Muse. I simply don't think they're comparable in any way, so really should not be discussed otherwise we will end up offending someone. Different bands, different styles - Both talented and successful and put on great shows.
i couldnt blame them for sucking live cuz the guitars are difficult to play and the voice is really high pitched so yea u get my point but thy r making progress in becoming better live just look back then to now
then if they'd lose a fan for that then you are not a fan at all... you are just someone who believes it is "cool" to only like bands that don't get publicity...
I have nothing (personally) against haters. But their childish acts are making me freakin' sick! This is an awesome performance of a song said "NOT" been able to play live. But what did they do, MASTER IT!
So haters, go somewhere else to plant your shit! You don't see me going on your Death Metal or My Chemical Romance and post shit about them.
Huh, saw a few vids of them live previously.. actually was very unimpressed. This, however, is waay better. Very impressive performance, in fact. Definitely gained a lot of respect for them here, nice upload.
Wow the guitarr players where much better lve than i thought but still vocalist is kinda worthless live. can be all the ppl in the crowd singing but i will see them live on metaltown will make up my mind about theyr live preformance after that. maybe a litle more show i the live shows would higher the preformance. ^^
Really? I think ZP is amazing live - He has to hit some pretty high notes and kicks ass :D But see them yourself and draw your own conclusions - I don't think I'll be surprised ;)
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theargast 6 months ago
Dragonforce is BA!!!!
gtapringle 1 year ago
@kanxa1996 Actually, if you look up the tabs, a lot of the music is really simple, just fast tempo.
Hinatafan4ever666 1 year ago
This sounded actually pretty good, so the only thing i hate about dragonforce is that, by a joke or not, they say that they are better than others, way too proud of themselves.
Worzx 1 year ago
@Worzx They have never said they are better than anyone. Find me an interview or anything that shows they said that .. and ill admit im wrong.
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
@lfcbenitez123 not sure about ''better than others'' but they have said that they are the best. thats an aspect that i hate about some bands.
Worzx 1 year ago
@Worzx Ermm .. they have never ever said that buddy .. and i have read alot of interviews with the band. Find me a interview or a video where they said they were the best.
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
@lfcbenitez123 Okay i have to admit now that i was wrong, the only thing i heard them say was ''We're the coolest'' and ''there is nothing cooler than dragonforce'' (watch?v=iCEX1WRbIHs) but that ''attitude'' was something that got me thinking that way. and now that i think what they said, its nothing that bad.. but don't get me wrong, i love this band, they are AWESOME in studio AND live.
Worzx 1 year ago
@Worzx Without even clicking the link you provided i know its the download festival video :P but yeah .. they are just kidding .. glad you realise that :)
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
LMAO! Where's the lead guitar guys!? Oh that's right, you can't play it because you fucking suck.
flash8246 1 year ago
@flash8246 You're better I assume?
reevo99 1 year ago
jesus christ when the solos kicked in my heart dropped =/
im sorry but that was just terrible.. they're trying to play 110% when they can only pull off 80%....
ragglefraggle09 1 year ago
Guitar Hero 3 and all its gay little nerds ruined this song =/
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
Gayest lyrics ever.
xDaMaGePlanxx 1 year ago
@xDaMaGePlanxx Gayest comment ever.
reevo99 1 year ago
i wish that this concert was recorded with good equipment, the person who recorded it used a phone or a camera, which is why people think dragonforce sucks live, but they played amazing in this concert, it would of been great if this was recorded with whatever equipment they use in concerts
RockFan9927 1 year ago
@RockFan9927 It was recorded using a JVC Everio Z series. It isn't HD but did the job. You can now buy HD cams at the price I paid for this one - what a difference a year makes. I'm not a pro, so don't have professional equipment.
However, my recordings are the best available of this gig, so like it or lump it :) I'm not a professional, simply a fan who had a bloody sore arm the day after.
chris4laura 1 year ago
Aww, a year ago I had a chance to see them live in a festival, but my friends didn't want to go that day 'cause they were like only interesting band then. Never saw them with ZP and will never see them with ZP :(.
Invasion135 1 year ago
Probably da best dragonforce song ever
parkmonstercj 1 year ago
They sound live just like in gh3.
i dont know why everybody is trashing on them.
CrazyRoflKid 1 year ago
@CrazyRoflKid Because everyone saw the grasspop 06 vid and they think that dragonforce plays that way in all their shows. I honestly disagree, they have improved a lot, suck that ZP left :'(
Sac077 1 year ago
I think that the singer always say "stop" before the fast guitar intro
'cause he know that the japnese guy(guitarist) should drop yhe acoustic guitar and bring the electric one
Ive seen thie in an other video
so Dont u think??
Realmetalriffs 1 year ago
@Realmetalriffs That's exactly why they do it :) It's all good though.
chris4laura 1 year ago
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kancherito33 1 year ago
@kancherito33 you dont have to curse, ignorant dumbass.
theargast 6 months ago
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kancherito33 1 year ago
@kancherito33 kiss my ass asshole
I think I know his fucking name well . and why dont you mind your own godamn buisness jerk?
such morrans like you should be executed and a band like Dragonforce should not have such idiot fans like you
I wouldnt call you a fan ...
Realmetalriffs 1 year ago
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kancherito33 1 year ago
@kancherito33 Not a fan ha?and why the fuck puting your nose on others buisness?
i wish i could meet you ; ill rip your fucking balls up, stuck 'em down your throat jerk........
Realmetalriffs 1 year ago
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kancherito33 1 year ago
@kancherito33 I can tell this jerk ,, Im japanese from Okinawa
and Herman is English with Chinese origine
Check this in Wikipedia pussy
Realmetalriffs 1 year ago
Okay, first things first, great video, good quality and sound :) Second, Im assuming all the haters on this video saying "Dragonforce can't play live" can play a better live performance themselves?
reevo99 1 year ago
Seriously, how can anyone say that 5:55 to like 6:25 sounds good at all? The guitars sound like they are playing random shit off tempo.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 I'll be fair with you, I just jumped to there and you're right.
However, I think that's due to my recording - When I was there, it was fantastic, could hear the bass/drums a lot better and it blended well :p
Either that or they had a wee fuck up @)
chris4laura 1 year ago
Dragonforce need to do a studio album made up of the live versions of their songs. TBH, I like this version better than the one on Inhuman Rampage
chewybaco 1 year ago
I had some idea that the hater problem had blown over, given that these idiots never post on AeonOfOblivion's stuff.
I can remember watching this 2 Novembers ago right before my first DF show and not knowing what to expect when I went there.
I was blown away.
The energy that DF plays with live is unmatched by anything I've ever seen before. Technically, they were on the spot too. There wasn't a single guy in the crowd who had a bad time there.
Makes me wonder why haters are still around.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo Because they fake everything. That's why.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 More of you idiots again. I love how you gave no reason and ignored the musikmesse recordings where they've been totally solid, as well as any from 2009-2010.
You clearly hate them. You also seem determined to make things up to reinforce this idea. The haters made the "faking" thing up because they're over-sensitive purist assholes. I've seen DF twice, and they were fantastic and solid each time. Don't ever act like you know more than me about them, because trust me, you don't.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo @IamTheLandolfo Hahaha Really? I don't ever want to know about them because they are trash. Even if they played their instruments like they did in the recordings, they still wouldn't be good. I'm sorry but people wouldn't just make up a "faking" thing if it wasn't true. How many other times do you see people claiming that another band is fake? None. The reason people claim they are fake is because they are.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 Thing is though, you ARE an idiot if you honestly believe that they fake it. They wouldn't maintain a year and a half of sold out shows if they faked it. They wouldn't have been nominated for a Grammy award if they faked it. Herman wouldn't have won Metal Hammer's 2009 best shredder award if he faked it.
People made it up about them because they were an easy target: nerdy, bad live tour in 2006. And seriously, people wouldn't say it if it wasn't true? That's just plain naive.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 "I don't ever want to know about them because they are trash".
The message that this line sends is: I know nothing at all and have know interest in learning because I'm SO close minded that no amount of information or education in the world could ever convince me to change my beliefs.
If you aren't interested in learning anything, what was the point of ever replying? You'll just make yourself look less and less educated and more like some backward hater following myths.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo No, I look less educated because that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to make yourself look smart over the internet. I used to like DragonForce, and I do know plenty about them, but when I found out how bad they are live and how fake most of the music is, I stopped being interested. Get over yourself.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 *Sigh*
They're not fake and they're great live.
End of.
chris4laura 1 year ago 3
@Firecrotch6979 ironic. I cited several reasons why DF being fake makes no sense, and I wasn't the one who acted all self righteous and posted the first reply, but apparently I'm the one who needs to get over myself?
I am smart. I've spent years trying to figure out the fakeness thing, but both times I was at their shows, on numerous live videos (ie Graspop 09, Tokyo 09, Musikmesse 2010), and my thoughts about the human nature that drives people to tell lies, I've made my own opinion.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo Wow, so you think people are just lying about it because they want to? If that's true why would they choose this band over any other? You don't make sense. The problem with DragonForce is the fact that they play fast and they think that that makes them good, and all of the fans think they are good just because they can play fast.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 They'd choose DF over any other because most haters have the idea that DF's popularity stemmed from kids and video games. That's only true in the US, but metal purists hate it. People believe lots of stuff because they want to bro, just look at religion.
They don't think it makes them good. Herman's said numerous times that variety in musicality and speed is the key, not just straight up speed. He showed that when he wrote Disciples of Babylon, and the unusual solo bridge in it.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@Firecrotch6979 As far as the fan thing goes, I'm just as dismayed sometimes. They're good guitarists, but they're far from the best and they know it.
The way I see it, fans who think that they're the best guitarists ever simply because of speed are just as brainless as the people who think they're talentless posers, because there's plenty of evidence and ideas opposing both those positions.
IamTheLandolfo 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo And I also wouldn't mind them if they didn't try to put on a show like that on stage, it's way too corny.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
@IamTheLandolfo By the way, nice insult calling me an idiot, it was really well thought out.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
people in the crowd need to learn not to sing along to the music if they aren't any good at it... lol good performance, tho. wish i could've heard the REAL vocals! dragonforce rules and whoever thinks they speed up their music is an idiot. live performances almost always sound crappy because they are always either slightly slowed down or sped up and/or the crowd never fricking shuts up!
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I have yet to see one fucking video of those phony wankers actually playing they're own shit as it is on the recorded album. All cut-and-paste studio magic. Little kids watch the music videos and see that milli vanili finger synching and they think they just witnessed something real. Well... that live performance is proof that Dragon Farce sucks balls. It's not even debatable.
keeblercommander 2 years ago
You're an idiot.
chris4laura 2 years ago
no hes right
XxRipStitchxX 2 years ago
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@keeblercommander Man you'r not an idiot lol, that's just the truth. Even a guy who's playing guitar hero knows the studio version better than the actual band.
thedarkflowkiller 2 years ago
lol so many people argue over youtube videos. either way.. they shred... ofoarse its gona be different to the studio version. who really cares
BenJAHmin92 2 years ago 2
lol ZP " We stand with are cocks in are hands" haha he changes all the time XD
sixthsnipe 2 years ago 13
wow whats with the trolls on this video dragonforce are amazing if you dont think they are good then why search for thier videos and start acting like retards and talking shit saying their bad? they obviously aint bad they are one of the best speed metal bands going.
people that talk shit like to embarras themselves then millions of people love dragonforce
sixthsnipe 2 years ago 4
@sixthsnipe Wow, I can't believe how many people are really falling for this. They fake their music, just listen to how bad Herman Li is live... Come on, how can you guys be that stupid. By the way, I only searched for it to laugh at it because it's funny how bad they are live.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
I would have to say dragon force i a clear example of why real bands dont use computers to soup up their sound. This sounds like shit compared to their album. Next time they should try to compose something they can actually play.
jonahoberloh 2 years ago
@jonahoberloh So true.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
it sounds crappy
darkslayerTHX 2 years ago
lol sam....playin one fret too high. Shit happens and yo gotta go with it. Cant say "oops, let me re-do that" playing live hehe. Saw them in September...almost perfect show.
nsjohn130 2 years ago
dude ive seen them play live recently they play it perfectly. they obviously can fucking play it. DForce is amazing dude and Throught the fire and flames is one of their best songs, but there are parts of some of their songs that are crazier dude. Herman Li and Sam Totman are the real deal, theyre great guitarists
ipwn091 2 years ago 3
shut up .
lamaduuude 2 years ago 3
shut up .
lamaduuude 2 years ago 3
wow in their solos live they dont even play on the right frets they just play in the same finger patterns lol DF SUCKS BALLS
BDMxISxFORxREAL 2 years ago
You're an idiot...
You can tune a guitar differently and therefore have to play on different frets... Most live bands drop it down a notch to save the vocalist.
So every band sucks and can't play, in your books.
chris4laura 2 years ago
not just that but they also skip the parts of the solos they dont feel like playing. just listen to the song
BDMxISxFORxREAL 2 years ago
how much time did you listen the full version.none.maybe.the video isnt the full version so you cant tell
lamaduuude 2 years ago
sorry to say man but he's right, the other guitarist (not herman ) does play the same pattern on the wrong frets, but hey, its live
ImpThaW 2 years ago
no, the are making an harmonization or maybe you think that because herman li have 20 frets and sam have 22.
pavloscorpion 2 years ago
no, he just plays the wrong frets
ImpThaW 2 years ago
@ImpThaW If he was actually as good as they portray him, he wouldn't be hitting the wrong frets.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
duuude its for the video style doesnt mean they cant play it
lamaduuude 2 years ago
WOAHHHHHH your knowledge of basic musical theory surpasses everybody else's in the history of ever....take it from a musician with years of ex[erience AND who was at THIS VERY GIG, he's playin the HARMONY to what the 1st lead (herman) is playin...honestly dude....BASIC MUSIC THEORY
guitarfreak661 2 years ago
@guitarfreak661 are you like arrogant or something? listen to the studio album, at this gig he plays the pattern right but on the wrong frets newb... dont tell me what a damn harmony is , i just say that he plays the wrong frets smartass
ImpThaW 2 years ago
@chris4laura Yeah, you're right, they do, but DragonForce fakes their guitar solos and half of everything else except the synthesizer and the vocals. All the guitars do in the song is play half assed licks and powerchords if you watch them. Any real guitarist can see how bad they are.
Firecrotch6979 1 year ago
what dies muse have to do with dragonforce muse isnteven all that complex... id like to see museplay anythin half as hammered as df!
millyshine 2 years ago 5
LIVEFORCE FTW!!! That show looks soo awesome. Shame I couldn't go even though I live in belfast :(
a380person 2 years ago 3
omg they rock so much !^^
numb4321 2 years ago
how come herman is playing an acoustic guitar?
gagopj 2 years ago
is he playing an acoustic?
AndreasZimmerman 2 years ago 2
terrible..
GM300GM 2 years ago
studioforce, oh lawdy
bigbob572 2 years ago
Liveforce, oh lawdy
:)
UnholyCrusada 2 years ago 3
wtf? 1:25 i think some one threw something!!!
crazyhamster93 2 years ago
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Wow THAT WAS FUCKING HORRIBLE PREFORMANCE.
Muse Owns dragonforce.
Dragon force sounds epic in studio tho. just suck balls live
americathefat101 2 years ago
Muse?
Lol.
chris4laura 2 years ago
Go Search Muse Live.
lol.
americathefat101 2 years ago
Yes I've heard Muse are good live, although not my cup of tea of a band.
However, you're comparing Muse to Dragonforce? Why not compare Dragonforce to the Jonas Brothers while you're at it?
chris4laura 2 years ago
Dragon Force > Jonas Brothers.
Happy?
americathefat101 2 years ago
Ecstatic.
My point is that they are two different bands who play radically different styles of music - DF is power metal, Muse is... rock I suppose? The comparrison can't really be matched, unless Muse play a seriously fast and complicated song, or unless DF does a much slower, basic song.
Muse are also a worldwide mainstream band who can afford to do big shows @)
chris4laura 2 years ago
i like muse and love dragonforce, but you sound pretty ignorant saying df is really complex and muse is simple
i play guitar and i can say from experience that there are plenty of muse songs that are more difficult on guitar than dragonforce songs
i agree, the two arent comparable, but you shouldnt talk as if dragonforce is at all more technical; theyre both great bands and artists
allthesametakemeaway 2 years ago
With 500 characters to use and attempting to cram many points into one comment, it's difficult to get the complete answer out.
I know Muse has the odd complicated song (I'll admit, I'm not a fan - They're a bit boring for me :P) but I don't doubt their talent and abilities. I feel however that Dragonforce is more intense and more complicated - I'm not a guitarist, but I can appreciate the skill it takes to do what they do (both bands - Not just DF).
chris4laura 2 years ago
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Muse is one of the most complex bands there is. As a listener of both I cannot fathom how anyone would agrue that df is more talented...or intense. If running around the stage screaming makes you intense, then I guess df wins. But trust me. I've seen both of them live and Muse wins by an incomparable margin. Muse is the best live band Ive ever seen. Herman is a great guitarist, but you have to remember playing guitar is more than just sweep picking as fast as you can. Muse > DF x 1000.
Truzzzzzi 2 years ago
Or you can shut the hell up and get off the video if you don't like it? (not trying to be mean but really.....I don't want to go through tons of pages of arguments in the comments on every Dragonforce video"
Amish234 2 years ago 3
Screaming? Right there you lost me.
Considering speed is part of Dragonforce, it's essential to their genre. If they weren't fast (and melodic at the same time) then they wouldn't be as popular (Not within the power metal fanbase anyway).
chris4laura 2 years ago
And as I finished that, I saw that again it was going to leave a sour note on Muse. I simply don't think they're comparable in any way, so really should not be discussed otherwise we will end up offending someone. Different bands, different styles - Both talented and successful and put on great shows.
Sounds fair to me.
chris4laura 2 years ago
i agree
allthesametakemeaway 2 years ago
Wait, are you trying to say that The Jonas Brothers are better than Dragonforce?
a380person 2 years ago
NO!
americathefat101 2 years ago
Oh, good lol. hate the Jonas Brothers
a380person 2 years ago
This was so much better than they used to be. Holy shit. This was incredible.
M4GNITUDE 2 years ago
i love the drunk guy what a champ
shakeamabuckreet 2 years ago
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These guys are freaking terrible. Everything is out of tune.
fiddler0526 2 years ago
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yeh they sound good in a studio but shit live
studioforce hahaha
GForceTrampolining1 2 years ago
6:13 what the fuck!?
nuclearpablo1 2 years ago 5
he is imaginating
combatmaster789 2 years ago
lol
crazyhamster93 2 years ago
eso es una picha
SassoChessy 2 years ago
ok i used to dis dragonforce but come on dragonforce haters, you gotta admit, THIS was a good performance
KINGLAMBO17 2 years ago 14
@KINGLAMBO17 what about the other 70000001 performances they sucked dick at??
loganpalmiter 1 year ago
i love how the whole place was going crazy, and all you can hear is the one fucking guy who sounds drunk off his mind.
haha, dragonforce fucking rocks. and i was at this show motherfuckers!!!
XXXshadowslayerXXX 2 years ago
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The truth is the truth...
They really do suck live but they're songs are awesome... The vocal just doesn't sing out the song -.-...
UgIzZz 2 years ago
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*plays on acoustic guitar*
STOP! HERMAN NEEDS TO PUT HIS ELECTRIC GUITAR ON!!
*puts on electric guitar*
*SOLO SOLOL SOLOLOLOLO*
*bad singing from cameraman*
*camera man is dround-ed out from the guitars and drums*
cool
SirManNGedition 2 years ago
Umm.. Fail? :\
UgIzZz 2 years ago 3
no, this was a compliment to dragonforce for actually playing it well and a diss to teh camera man.
the people who gave me -'s are jackasses
SirManNGedition 2 years ago
You were actually writing ONLINE ROLEPLAYING... -.-...
You know... That's sad.
UgIzZz 2 years ago
Very little voice left, was hoarse from Turisas let alone DF.
And sorry for singing along to one of my favourite bands... And recording them in all their glory.
I'll remember to sing louder next time - Just for you!
chris4laura 2 years ago
Damn you for being entertained and not just recording this show for our benefit!
Seriously though, thanks a lot.
Sausage910 2 years ago 2
not as fast as the original!!!!!!!
m14closerangeSniper 2 years ago
you gotta admit, they are pretty talented considering that its an acoustic guitar this time instead of keyboard.
Bread23000 2 years ago
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they suck live
fanofthesimpsons2 2 years ago
The acoustic intro is much more epic than just the keyboard intro =) Fucking Rock On Dragonforce !!
lfcbenitez123 2 years ago 2
if dragonforce song is a shit why did you waste your precious time in here?fuck all haters!!!!!!!!DRAGONFORCE FOREVER!
arthur1ivanov 2 years ago 3
I can't agree with you more, DRAGONFORCE ROCKS!!!
minikola95 2 years ago 2
dragonforce is great.....when they are not live... then it jus sounds terrible they are getting better at live shows but they got a long way to go
stringlessjoe 2 years ago
Are you all fucking deaf? they nailed it live here! =D
bcrich27 2 years ago 5
i couldnt blame them for sucking live cuz the guitars are difficult to play and the voice is really high pitched so yea u get my point but thy r making progress in becoming better live just look back then to now
salazarchato 2 years ago
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no
because they thought it would be fun to electronicly speed their songs up
and when they play it live it sounds like shit
aem1994 2 years ago
hahahah! herman lie is flicking you off with his strumming handXD
slashedneptune 2 years ago
flipping you off -_-
DroogMonkey 2 years ago
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god do these guys suck live
my god
aem1994 2 years ago
Dragonforce are amazing live.
Lethallergy 2 years ago 3
Obviously deaf.
headbanger888 2 years ago
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no obviously i know a group that sucks live when i hear them
ive seen them at mayhem
they sounded horrible
and the singer brags about about being in guitar hero 3
aem1994 2 years ago
You're only saying they sounded horrible because you don' like them.
headbanger888 2 years ago 5
no the honest truth was i was looking forward to seeing them at the show
and they sounded horrible
aem1994 2 years ago
ok someone told me that herman used an acoustic guitar for the intro and i didnt believe them but now i do and that was pretty sweet
atje5 2 years ago 5
they live are getting better!DF ROCKS 4EVER!!!
arthur1ivanov 2 years ago 6
i thought thats the best ive seen them play tbh, great vid btw :)
tonysoprano2010 2 years ago 2
thank you for not having a camera phone because this is the sex
foroke1 2 years ago
these guys are awesome! years from now they'll have an entire guitar hero game based on them, just like aerosmith and metallica.
Shadow784444 2 years ago
And then they are on MTV in the news on the TV
and everywhere. When this time is come theyre not longer METAL. Theyre are only famous like Slipknot. Get more and more haters like Slipknot.
I hope Dragonforce dont do that!!!!!
And when they doing that they lost one fan!!!
HammnerFall1993 2 years ago
i really dont think DF is effected at all by the media. theyre to...dragonforce to even give a fuck about what everyone says about them.
donut101 2 years ago 3
they are to good to become some shitty band like that slipknot has everything under control too they are also very good
funkeylol 2 years ago 2
then if they'd lose a fan for that then you are not a fan at all... you are just someone who believes it is "cool" to only like bands that don't get publicity...
TheSynysterVengeance 2 years ago
i hope they dont..
foroke1 2 years ago
OMG if they do that would be (sic)
jordanfadestoblack 2 years ago
ZP theart sounds so shit live.
Aelle2000 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure that ZP writes all the lyrics, though, and those are generally the only real distinguishing features of DragonForce songs.
diamond1hammer 2 years ago
They're alright when their not drunk. Sam's solo sounded horrible tho.
TurkeyFats 2 years ago
sam is a particulary shitty guitarist :S
leo1302g 2 years ago
wow this is probably one of the only GOOD QUALITY dragonforce concerts....
eko1332 2 years ago
Still better than you. :)
headbanger888 2 years ago
i can't play that at guitare
but they can't too XD
leo1302g 2 years ago
Doesn't matter. You can't talk shit about them if you can't play as well as them.
headbanger888 2 years ago
It would help if you learnt english maybey?
alastair666 2 years ago
learn to shut your mouth
leo1302g 2 years ago
omfg wow i just pissed my pants
staffsgttrevor 2 years ago
I have nothing (personally) against haters. But their childish acts are making me freakin' sick! This is an awesome performance of a song said "NOT" been able to play live. But what did they do, MASTER IT!
So haters, go somewhere else to plant your shit! You don't see me going on your Death Metal or My Chemical Romance and post shit about them.
PilotOfNorway91 2 years ago 3
Dragonforce - Through Belfast Mandela Hall and High Quality
XHAGAMAN39X 2 years ago 5
suprisingly Dragonforce can actually play there songs live now xD
Farrownarr 2 years ago
thats the first time i've ever seen them use a guitar for the intro, sounds way better, their getting really good
jimmytim47 2 years ago
apparently they fired their old sound engineer who was causing all the problems
iamashooter 2 years ago
thanks for sharing! they are amazing!
feroxuus 2 years ago
did they do an encore?
mfbabin 2 years ago
This was their encore lol.
chris4laura 2 years ago
Yeah, Did He Just Say "Now We Stand With Our Crotch In Our Hands" At 6:12 And Basically Hold His Crotch?
xD
lXlNismo11lXl 2 years ago 2
"Now we stand with our cocks in our hands"
^_^
chris4laura 2 years ago
(RE:chris4laura "Now we stand with our cocks in our hands")
Well That's Not Strange At All.
lXlNismo11lXl 2 years ago
Not at all :D
Quite common for a lot of youtubers :P
chris4laura 2 years ago
Huh, saw a few vids of them live previously.. actually was very unimpressed. This, however, is waay better. Very impressive performance, in fact. Definitely gained a lot of respect for them here, nice upload.
SchizoForte 2 years ago
Good, I'm glad :)
chris4laura 2 years ago
Wow the guitarr players where much better lve than i thought but still vocalist is kinda worthless live. can be all the ppl in the crowd singing but i will see them live on metaltown will make up my mind about theyr live preformance after that. maybe a litle more show i the live shows would higher the preformance. ^^
cawact 2 years ago
Really? I think ZP is amazing live - He has to hit some pretty high notes and kicks ass :D But see them yourself and draw your own conclusions - I don't think I'll be surprised ;)
chris4laura 2 years ago
"now here we stand with our crotch in our hands"
spongebobrules999 2 years ago