nation of gods and earth aren't five percenters they are muslims.........Those aren't the Father's teachings........The teachings are in Medina because Pelan took over Mecca........
@xAvery96 Homosexuality is unnatural & a learned negative behavior. It doesn't add on to the cipher of life, meaning no physical life can be produced from that type of behavior. We don't allow (knowingly) any homosexuality or lesbianism in our nation.
White is just as much god as black, FOI is all about self worship and narcissism. I look at FOI that same as jehovas witness or SDA. An ignorant mans religion. Fill yourself so full of shit you cant tell the dif anymore. And the martyrdom aspect, nice touch! Poor righteous teachers, oh poor you, get a job like the rest of us.
(Continued) The followers of this pseud-religion, are men who drink, gamble, smoke, have babies out of wedlock to many women. Who pays for all this? Hardworking taxpayers! The White man is a Devil? But you your children accept his government ran Medicaid, Welfare, and Section 8. An embarassment to the Democratic Party, most certainly! Here is a mathematic lesson, GET A JOB!, provide for your OWN offsprings, and lets prevent wasteful domestic spending!
Are u talking to those who consider themselves Christians, who make up over half the people in Amerikkka, living below the poverty line? Show and prove she who hides behide the name of a fruit...lol! Is that suppose to be tittlaiting or are u advocating a healthy diet? U are ignorant and the Democratic Party in and in itself an embarrassment to all who consider themselves Democratic...UnLearn and ReLearn!
Clarence 13X was shot gambling, survived the incident and considered himself immortal. So he begins a movement calling every man immortal!Unfortunately, the followers of this pseudo-catastrophic religion have never read Friederich Nietzsche and "The Will To Power". This is clearly a 'bad spin-off' from a German philospher. Followers of this man {not prophet} have allowed themselves to live their lives just as wreckless as he did. (Cont'd)
@peechies77 The deification of man is nothing new. Ancient Egyptians and many other African cultures believed in this. Islamic Sufism teaches that every man has a spark of the Divine in him and it is man's duty to cultivate that spark. This is all 5%ers are trying to do, though in my opinion a bit of a misguided way. However your equating this movement to German philosophy shows a lack of understanding of history itself. Such movements are as old as time.
GODS AND EARTHS WHAT A DISGRACE! Clarence 13X studied ISLAM and COMPLETED TWISTED IT UP! The balck man is not GOD! and the white man is not the devil you cant just outlaw another race like that. Islam calls for equality meaning all man are created equally. This religion THE NATION OF GOD's AND EARTHS IS COMPLETELY MADE UP!
OH MY! Ignorance is no cause for such anger or is it fear that I see in ur post? LOL! It must be terrifying to think for one second in our world that the black man is GOD...huh? My question to u is...what or who do u consider GOD to BE? To address ur statement of the NGE being made up...Who wrote the Holy Bible? Who is the founder of Christianity, Juadism, Islam are based on a BELIEF system. A system, I may add, that is based of anothers (persons) philosophy.
im not a 5 %er but i study under elijahs teachings but u nonbelievers need to start coming right and exact becaz ya look like ya luv getting blasted. theis cats bring the truth raw and if ur weak and frail u will brake. so im just rying2 say ya some time try to come come all wise right and exact
You MUST be a American. I would be shocked if not. I know the drop out rate in America in large cities is something like 50%. Statements like this one clearly show America is in trouble. The lack of intelligence in this country will only harm us in the long run.
I have three degrees. One of which is in International Economics. I also know two languages and have a well paying job at a private university. So your statement is rather silly, not to mention knowledge and monetary gain are mutually exclusive.
No need to allow emotions to over take intelligence. I am Muslim (Sunni) but I do believe that man is a lord on Earth. I believe that when man refines himself (spiritually and intellectually) he can be far greater than most can possibly imagine. The Prophet Muhammad (saw) related to us in a hadith that Allah (swt) said if he made woman bow down to anything besides himself it would have been man, so what does that tell you?! With that said, there is a creator to whom all praises are due.
u prove to me that your god is real ask him when will u die? ask him how old r u? ask him to save all who is dieing 4 no reason. ask him why do babies die at birth what did they do? let me know if he give u the answer! but u claim ur god can do more then me prove it! ask him to do something easy 4 u like give u a cup of water i bet u ur god won't even do that 4 you! u need to learn about life. u should start studying and stop trying down another. i don't beleave in ghost! do u?
What is this??? this isn't islam..this is not mentioned in the quran...astagfirollah, astagfirollah, astagfirollah...may Allah guide you to the right path.
what a decline in your numbers......your hateful and rude ..god is in everyone not in one . but in ones self to manifest his or hers own destiny...y seperate when you can intergrate..your thinking very much like a racsist and not like a revolutionary
You know what though, I'm sick of the silly shit. Folks need to either study & know what the hell they're talking about or leave this page alone. I'm here to answer serious questions for anyone seeking the knowledge of self, but I will not tolerate "believers" in whatever religion spitting some rhetoric that's not in synch with the universal order of things; criticizing me for not recognizing a God outside of myself. I'm down 4 serious debate, but religious rhetoric from "believers" can move on.
You are weak and you don't know how to develop a cifer, you have not proven anything to me! Allah is not a Genie I cannot command his manifestation. You study books, theories, and concepts yet our people are living 3rd rate, practice what you preach, one thing I can say about Elijah Muhmmad he didn't talk cash shit like his lost flock, he actually made things happen despite him banging every women in the NOI. Elijah and El Hajj after that only words and emotions!
I never said I was TRYING to prove anything to you...& don't bring that happy horse shit that SOME 5%ers are living poorly. So are MANY in the human family who claim whatever religion/culture. I'm not living poorly...in fact, "7th Jewel Productions" IS my business. This is just a small part of what I do. I'm a videographer & I'm self-sustained from what I do. I don't work for nobody but myself! Is your spook god getting you money? Tell your god to come holla at me...
That's good you are not sel-suffiecent you are a Jewish Zionist puppet, and material means nothing, I eat, I sleep, I survive, I live! I read the Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion and you kafirs are not threats to the powers to be, youre ideology is actually a cog in thier machine, they didn't fight crusades and gulf wars against 7th Jewel lol! stay docile in a sophisticated street, psuedo romanistic anthropromophist form of pagan christian material worship.
I bet you ain't even black, your a hybrid. Any one who claims to be supreme is racisttttt! Where is your knowledge based? a wd fard or x-klan rally. You sound blind by deception, allowing that late 80's rap culture dictate whats real-Hail Grand puba-orginal serpant!
Coward ass closed your account.....how's that for intelligence. Go worship your spook god punk. Leave the building for the True & Living Gods, such as myself....
The real problem is nobody remembers that the Blackman has ALWAYS been recognized as the SUPREME BEING from time immamorial....however nowadays he's been relegated to a "believer" and a "servant" to some immaterial etherial being. Prior to 6000 years ago, tell me who and what was recognized as God! Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Abraham are ALL "branch knowledge" in the grand scheme of things. The root of it all is the Blackman.
Anthropomorphism was the RULE OF THE DAY during Prophet Mohammed's time. Greek philosophical thought (spookism) is what crept into Islam (since you want to take it to a religious aspect) polluting it to what it is today. Prove to you I'm God? Prove it to YOURSELF by studying the history of the Blackman! Study astronomy & science and study how it relates to the Blackman! But you're just a follower aren't you...a believer. Stop being a coward & challenge what you "believe" & study the Blackman!
No for get studying European science books, prove that you are God, don't give me words and theories prove it. If you are God show me proof, the Quran said Allah is All-Knowing or AL-ALIM. Proove to me that you know everything Past, present, and future. Forget books I want to see it, show me right here right now, forget history yaqub, show me! I used to be a 5 percenter I am related to a family of southern immigrants their surname=Poole! Don't know me homie!
Show me your god....& I'll show YOU and IT who the hell I am...Mr USED TO BE....get the hell outta here...You never was if you "used to be". Weak foundation & it shows.
u prove to me that your god is real ask him when will u die? ask him how old r u? ask him to save all who is dieing 4 no reason. ask him why do babies die at birth what did they do? let me know if he give u the answer! but u claim ur god can do more then me prove it! ask him to do something easy 4 u like give u a cup of water i bet u ur god won't even do that 4 you! u need to learn about life. u should start studying and stop trying down another. i don't beleave in ghost! do u?
Ask them bout' A.L.L.A.H-arm leg leg arm head-120 lessons in living mathematics-this all RACIST jargon! Created by the devil to make Black people think that White people are there enemy! The Egyptians were black and they enslaved the Jews to build there pyraimds!
"Well if the whiteman ain't the devil, he'll do until the real one gets here."...Paul Mooney
Are you f*&king kidding me...racist! You cling to popular definition...what's real is that, Caucasians have got all over this planet changing (so-called civilizing) every "natural" culture for their bullsh*t.enslaved, raped, robbed, pillaged, diseased, everyone they've come in contact with so most people referring to the whiteman as the devil it's because of the CENTURIES of evidence
when whitepeople captialize its racist! when other people do its called conquering.....The americanized version of black culture got the world in a strong hold and as pointless as this culture is, good hard working people(white, black, asian etc tolerate 50 cent and these ignorant pebbled mouth talking bullshit artists pillaging society and demoralizing it, then blaming the whiteman-fuck you! you with your angery evolved SLAVE mentality-kill whitey, then yourself
You seemed to have answered your own question, notice that any "natural" (ie. non-white peoples) only destroyed each other AFTER being colonized, enslaved by the WHITEMAN. Read if you truly have "Love(the correct spelling) of Truth" Once again read YOUR statement..."White people Capitalize". Why not just share? It's NOT in the devil's nature.Where are the native americans?Aboriginal Australians?Taino and Arawaks of the Carribean?
other races wish they had the capacity to truly capitlize. because the americanized black man is the preceder to the white devil, the so-called orginal man could graft his own horns back to own head and show the world who cain really was! Let see the tribal man flip his words and fool the world with his fast talking pagan ways!
I'm not NGE but I study a little and I have lived the %5 life even before I knew about NGE. I have great respect for the movement. From what I have learned NGE isn't a religion or a cult and they don't profess to be Muslim. It's a social/educational movement which teaches knowledge of SELF to a people who's original knowledge of self has been stripped by the devil. Once original knowledge of self has been restored only then can one living the lifestyle of the savage beast become civilized.
who's the devil, Yacob? or The African Kings & Queens who sold out there own tribes of there Kingdom to slave merchants or is the so-called grafted cavedweller? Where does this wisdom originate? from a few self-proclaimed wanna be godz on a harlem street corner that spewed this hate and some lost sheep label it truth. Don't believe the hype!!!
Anyone who manifests God in "Self" is God "themselves"! The traditional view of "God" as in the mindset of a monotheistic, heavenly creator is pure religious conjecture. NOE is, as I said, more of an education movement than a religion, sort of like Free Masonry. Don't get it twisted.
5 % are no muslims ... cause they don't RESPECT what is writtin in The Koran . 40 -45 % of the African American were muslims, but the europian jews and katholics ,stole there religion ,culture during slavery.
These so called muslims ,say that they follow and believe Islam , but they dont respect WHITE muslims ...(Eljah Poeh and Clarence are liars and hypocrits.)
Malcolm X is the real HERO , and his own people killed him , the NOI and you so called muslims should be ashamed
time never was when man(mind)was not! the thoughts of allah cannot be circumscribed. there is no limit to knowledge. therfore, if one has not tapped into a certain degree of knowledge how can you know? the original man is the god of this plane of things made manifest. and the original people have no beginning nor ending.bet your life on it.peace to the gods and the earths!
From what i understand if ALLAH in the nation (arm.leg.leg.arm.head) is YOU being God in the sense that christians say (we are all made in his image) its a diff. embodiment its an empowering way to say you are a God which is a reason to do right .... I do however believe in the ideal of ALLAH in the sense of a god being the father (GOD) and then ALLAH becoming MAN since we're made in his image
i agree with the first part of your statement that they should use words other than BITE from arabic and islam but the rest of your statement is "racist, simple and plain." you need to stop seeing humans as only "black and white."
Islam mean everyones who submitted to God(Allah) including the 1ST HUMAN ON EARTH,our 1st prophet,Adam(pbuh) untill Muhammad S.A.W,not forget Jesus(Isa,pbuh) as well,Amin..The greatest Allah is ONLY ONE! Amin
So very many rappers whom seem to be so intelligent with their rhymes, show their outright stupidity by their allegiance to this tomfoolery...they're even worser than being down with the Nation of Islam. I'm not even a Muslim but man, blatantly disrespectful to "real" Islam.
No one who is a real follower of Allah (Clarence 13X Smith)is disrespecting Islam. The NGE (along with the theology developed by W.D. Fard, Noble Drew Ali and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad) is an authentic African-American development of Islam, the first new development of the Islamic faith in centuries. Who are you to decide what "real" Islam is anyway?
Every individual must recognize himself as God and work to eliminate all psychological weakness but be weary of lapsing into vanity. I've been on both ends of the spectrum and have seen the inadequacy of man when he strays from the noble path.
I've read all the comments so far but I have to ask you NGEs a question; WHY is it so important to you to be called God? Second, you keep saying that the blackman was once a God. BY WHO?!?! The first people didn't give a shit about that, they lived as primitive as they could. Humans have incredible flaws, both in their biological structure and everything else, we're by no More/less advanced or DIVINE as the typical mammal.
Show me a higher being than myself, then I'll submit, until then the Blackman is the Supreme Being of the planet Earth! And you ask by who...STUDY HISTORY...and NOT some bullshit by some white so-called scientist trying to hide the truth of the greatness of the original man, but a black scholar, like Dr Yosef Ben Jochannan, Cheikh Anta Diop, Ivan Van Sertima and others...these books bare witness to the Blackman is. STUDY!
"Show me a higher being than myself, then I'll submit" Higher in what way? You think, just as religious freak, that the humans have a higher purpose unlike anything else on this earth.Truth is, you (and me of course) are as insignificant to this world/universe as the ant we keep stomping at each day. So I don't understand what you want with that quote. The irony is that you use the same rethoric as religious freaks only, you don't seem to believe in a "higher" being although technichally you do
So your average rabbit is able to chart the stars? Your average zebra has knowledge of tetrahedral mathematics? I suppose the giraffe can also break down the human genome? I ask again, what is higher than man? Who is more supreme than man?
You really need to take reading skill classes. You didn't answer anything of what I asked or claimed. You just dodged the my post and came with this. But I will ask, do you think that it makes someone a "higher" being cause he can "count"? By such standard, a good mathemacian (sp?) is "higher" than your average mathemacian guy? Where the hell is the logic in that?
You didn't really ask anything...you may not like the answer I provided which is to attempt to provoke you to think outside of the box you're in, but apparently I have to spell it out for you. Higher in intelligence.
No I didn't ask directly but my post was a claim and a claim is an indirect question. If you can't see my claim then you need to read again cause it's there and as such there is a question in that post.
We never claimed to be believers! NOT being believers is a compliment. No we are NOT believers & we are not muslims. There's a distinct difference between knowledge & belief. I KNOW who I am, & you're just a believer. Also, do Arabs & Muslims have a "exclusive" right to use the word Allah?? What emotional religious furvor!
Also your "religion" is only 1400 years old. Go study the history of the Blackman & you'll see that the Blackman has been known as God the world over from remotest antiquity! This is KNOWLEDGE not belief. Signed with love, Allah! ;-)
Aint no black man god!!u r soooooooo deluded its unblevable!!we al knw dat black peops had a bad history wit slavery and all but it dusnt gve anybody tha rite to put ur race on a pedastool.
im not racist!i luv multicultural diversity in any society but indirect racism is totaly uncalled for! so pls dont preach 2 me about the blak man and its history,we r living in the present. i aint white and i aint black and i dont claim 2 b better than anybody!!
Hey yeh and my deen did not start 1400 years ago Adam (pbuh) was made by allah as a beliver(muslim) and he submitted wholly 2 allah (islam) u nd 2 get da facts str8!!
i think u 4got 2 add HU AKBAR at the end of ur paragraph?
Oh okay, pardon me. Islam "started" 6000 years ago. Strange that the Blackman preceeds Adam by several million years...you go ahead with your "belief"...let me know when you're ready to come into the reality of Knowledge & Wisdom...I'll point some books out to you that you can study. Signed, yet again, Allah. ;-)
so man started from bacteria or fungi and black man created the white and asian man? an tha black man makes it rain and makes the wind blow? help me undastand this mess? again the HU AKBAR? C'MON NOW!!;)
I never said that man started from bacteria/fungi. The caucasian taught you that. What I'm saying to you (if you want to go back that far) is that all 92 naturally occuring elements that exist in the universe have their origin in the Blackman. Our physical is composed of these elements which have their origin in us. The Sun was produced from these & it is the Sun that draws the water up from the earth until it distils back in the form of rain.
so jst because u were acknowledged as gods once upon a time dusnt make u one!! wat abt all dem afrikaans with hiv can u cure dem? if u r god u must tell me da big mystery and if black man is god y were they enslaved for 100's of years? cudnt they help themselves being gods?
Eye come in the name DivineAziatic Allah, Eye claim the last name of my Birth right, Eye came from my Source who is Allah. My Name Reflects the aspect of Allah Eye Represent. Divine is to be Pure and refined, Eye am a Pure and refined Aziatic Black Man in the Physical Embodiement of Allah. God is a level of Consciousness one strives to be with in the physical. Peace is the absence of confusion. The Devil keeps one confused to avoid them reaching the level of connection with Allah.
i have skin just as you do i have red blood as u do n most likely a heart, kidneys the major organs n my body functions as urs dus. so how can u claim 2 b allah?
u mayb educated n knowldgeble abt certain things but dus dat really make u god?
You don't know that the Blackman was ever acknowledged as being God because you don't know the Blackman's history. So before you start spouting religious belief & rhetoric STUDY then come back to me.
Again, we don't practice a religion...we practice a way of life which is called a culture. Which is why we don't "believe" we KNOW, which is the solid foundation on which you must stand in order to build. As far as evolution, I'll answer your question with this question: What does the arabic word raab mean? I'll point you in the right direction, it DOESN'T mean "lord".
Peace, Islam is also a way of life not a religion so we have something in common. Rub has a few meanings 1.the total owner, 2.the one who is obeyed 3. the one who nourishes and sustains. I have a question too, bro why do you call yourselves Allah?
mlmeyer1131 you're confusing the Nation Of Islam with the Nation Of Gods And Earths. 5 Percenters believe that anyone can be a Devil, not just the White man. And likewise believe that anyone can be "God" not just Black people. NGE is a culture, not a religion.
This religion is the utmost load of monkey made up shit I've ever heard of. The "White Man" was invented by a black scientist to destroy the world?! *Laugh my fucking ass off* you guys are fucking retards. Way to put your racist spin on Islam.
Mlmeyer1131, 1st we're NOT a religion. The Nation of Gods & Earths practices Islam as a culture & science, NOT a religion. 2nd, the whiteman is not a native ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET!! Where ever you go, you have taken the land over by force, & there was ALWAYS someone there before you. Now if you're not a native ANYWHERE, how did you get here? It's a scientific fact that black is original & dominant. Go read Gregor Mendel, one of YOUR white scientists, & then come talk to me.
Study up on the Anglo-Saxons friend. By the way did your scientist invent the Indian, Middle Eastern, Asian, Southern American, Aborigine peoples as well? Because he must have been one busy guy..
Anglo-Saxons are not original either...they're migrants of Germanic decendency. So what's your point?? They were still NOT NATIVE their either. Every race on the planet has their root in the original black people in one way or another.
Learning grammar is pretty tough huh... Well in any case, it's a retarded story for retards to believe. I'm sure that guy had a pretty neato science lab back in the day to manipulate genomes too. This story is truly AMAZING.
First of all it is impossible for any black person to be racist. Racisim is the POWER to negatively influence the lives of another group because of their color. Blacks in America do not have that kind of power. However, the TRUE racists had the power to invade a soverign nation, overthrow & kill it's ruler, & remain in that nation as an occupying force. You're looking at racisim on CNN, MSNBC, FOX as they cover this unfolding event & don't know what you're looking at.
no such thing as ex nation of islam com to the sunnah, I just responded on that Post however if they were students of Messenger Elijah Muhammad they never would have Left!!!! Orthodox Islam is in Old Islam, Teachings of Messenger Elijah Muhammad is New Islam!!!!!!
I've heard about these dudes, for this reason, I almost gave up my goal of becoming a dj for hiphop music, 5% believe in some stuff thats wrong like them being gods, ima catholic and thats a sin.
Streetcurrency879, is it a sin in Psalms 82:1 & 6? Or is it a sin from what Jesus said in John 10:34-36? Since you're a catholic, you should be familiar with those books & verses in the bible. Since you're a catholic, I'm encouraging you to study the history of catholocism & Constantine & the Nicean council & what happened in 325AD. VERY eye opening.
Blockvalue, you don't "convert". The Nation of Gods and Earths is no religious entity. One comes into the knowledge of self & studies science & history. You learn & study why/how the Blackman is God & how other "races" came out of the original or Black nation. But you don't "convert". That's for a religion, which we are not.
...it may have come from the NOI but the only reason is that clarence 13x, who denounced muslim and NOI beliefs later in life, founded it. it is believed that for this he was assassinated in the late 60's. research before you comment.
all everybody needs is some peace. if we had peace we would'nt be righting negative commentts. Why do you think 5percenters greet eachother 'peace god'?
These are proper muslims, and the black man is god the white man is not original that is why he is so cruel and evil. there is about 20 percent of whites who arent racist. look what the whiteman did to hiroshima,japan that whole city had to be rebuilt because an atomic bomb was dropped on it and the city was wiped of the face of the earth, and in that incident he killed 100s of thousands of people including women and babies.and also killed 29 blak children in atlanta because of racism.
you are misunderstanding the NGE. its has nothing to do with islamic faith or belief in Allah as one being. in the NGE, all people, regardless of race, creed or religion, are equal and all are gods themselves. in the NGE, ALLAH is an acronym: Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head, meaning human=god. its not a religion, it is a culture that believes in searching for the real, logical truths...
the nge believes the black man is god. not human man, black man. and that's man, not human, not man & woman. period. you may find some gods who will tolerate you as a white five percenter (in fact probably most will), but a lot won't and never will
if u guys disrespect gods and earths so much than why are you paying more attention to there religion than yours and y are you watching the vids made by them.
yall all a joke ,,,its as simples as dis ,,,did we create our selves or where we created? we are created as the sky and the earth are created,we our in control of nothing outside of our selves,,submit to the creator of the heaven and earth and all in between ,,,except TRUE ISLAM,
If that's the level of understanding that you're on, & you're not trying to be elevated from that very low understanding, then me telling you YES, I AM THE ALPHA & OMEGA, THE BEGINNING & THE END, THE MAKER & OWNER OF ALL THAT YOU SEE, is totally gonna be over your head. As the Original Being, all creation came me the Blackman! I AM Islam!!!!
powerful words your using, I was just gonna read and not say anything but this comment stopped me in my tracks, I really don't see how wha tyou say make any sense tho.
That's because thekidfromphilly, with all due respect, you lack the true knowledge of yourself. From remotest antiquity, the black man was known all over the planet (regardless of culture) as God. It was only in the last 4000 - 6000 years that the reality of our identity was fully misunderstood and removed. But if you go back to your origin, you will see that man is God on Earth and God is man in "heaven". Think about it...
No, because I know how to eat to live. I eat the best of foods, 1 meal every 3 days....so no, I never get sick. You should read "How to Eat to Live" books 1 & 2 by the Hon. Elijah Muhmammad so you can enjoy the healty lifestyle that I do.
I sware, the white man can tell you a white Jesus is God, & you take it with no questions asked, but the second a blackman stands up to say "I'm God" he's accused of being in a cult & something's "wrong" with him. The Black man was God BEFORE Jesus (& your cult) & the Black man will be God after all that foolishness & ignorance is done away with.
Haha, will you learn to spell before or after that?
I never said I believed in a white man's fairy tale, I don't believe everything the white man tells me, I don't believe in a white Jesus, why would you accuse me of that? Who do you think you're talking to? You don't know a thing about me. I'm too wise to accept anything anyone says without thinking about it first.
That's because you have bought into a twisted definition for the word wisdom, homie.
I guess I say "cult" because the "group" actually has such religious connotations to it. It's a uniquely American branch of a uniquely American religion (NOI) which itself is supposedly a branch of another religion --Islam. The group is also now into Egyptian mythologies/gods/religion.
But besides having religious roots, one of the worse things about it is that it is sexist --women are called Earths because they are meant to revolve around men? No self-respecting woman is going to join a group that tells her she was born to be subservient to men. That can only be done through brainwashing, like in a cult.
And besides being religious and sexist, the worst thing about this group is that it solely based on the irrational idea that someone is somehow superior to others because of their skin. Kind of like what Hitler taught. There is no difference in what white supremacists say and what this group says, essentially "anyone who doesn't look like us are less than us."
So it's a religious, sexist, and racists group, I'm sorry if "cult" offended you. Like I said, I don't buy into what anyone says without analyzing what they're about first. So like I said, I hope that the kids brought up in this environment can eventually see that they are part of the human family, instead of learning to hate others.
We TEACH the human family. We have 5%ers from EVERY member of the human family (including white). So before you speak more of what you have no clue about, go TRULY study. If you really "analyzed" what we're about you wouldn't be spitting this nonsense. If you want me to teach you, all you need to do is ask; it's my duty to teach ALL the human family of the planet earth.
You teach WHAT? As far as I have seen, NGE teach their kids that the white man is the devil and the black man is god. Is that what is your duty to teach? That's absurd fanaticism.
I never said the white man wasn't the devil. I have at the very LEAST 400 years of proof of that reality...not even getting into years before that. Their history (particularly in this country) is written in the black man & woman's & native Americans BLOOD!!!
i want to gain some knowledge from you. i am a white man trying to get into the teachings and i want to know more. you seem to know a lot. i have believed everything of the NGE since 15 years before i knew about it (when i was 3) and when i started researching (thanks to rakims music) it all made sense.
See you're making irrational statements without first doing the knowledge, or KNOWING what you're talking about. We never said we're better than anybody. However it is a scientific, historic, genetic, etc. fact that black people are the original people on this planet. That's not racisim, that's a fact. Gregor Mendel (the geneticist) bears witness to this fact....I suggest you go study & come back when you're more learned instead of spitting misconceptions & lies about the NGE.
If I call someone a devil, and I call myself god, then yes, I'm saying I am better than them. Or is calling someone a devil considered a compliment? I don't think so.
Either way, are you going to tell me that because black people were here first they are "gods" and the whites who evolved as they moved north are "devils"? Now you're being deceptive by mixing real science with myths. How could you not be a religion where the very words you use are religious?!
No YOU said that ("whites evolved as they moved north"...I never said that; here you go again saying something I DIDN'T say)! And use some COMMON sense homie; if we WERE a religion, why would I say I'M GOD???? I would NEED a God outside of myself to worship if this were a religion...duh
I know that black people were here first, why bring that up? I know that, everyone knows that, no need to tell me to study that and come back, I know that already, but what's your point? How do you jump from that- to telling people that black men are "gods"? That's where real science stops and illogical religious theories take over.
I bring that up because people do NOT know that! That's why its called knowledge of self, and my people are in the condition they're in because they DON'T have it! I'm God, because I am the supreme being. I am the highest form (supreme) of existence (being) in this universe. If I'm not God, show me yours...and I'll kick his ass!!!!!!
just been browsin thru all 5 pages and this stood outt, I'm actually anglican so don't jump on me or anything. I can't think of any religion of the top of my head that does NOT put women in an inferior women to men. Shit, Christianity has been distorted to place women in the position they were, and in many cases still in. So I don't see what makes NGE any more sexist, if their is in fact sexist views in their doctrine
When you plant a seed in the earth, what comes up? LIFE! Life emerges from the earth once a seed is planted. Likewise when we plant our seed (sperm) into her, she produces LIFE from her womb like the planet earth produces life from the ground. A nation rises no higher than its woman, because without her NO nation on the planet could exist. So she has a divine place in God's universe; not behind me but beside me. She's not my servant, she's my Queen (17).
Are you seriously trying to teach me how babies are made? HAHA what you're saying is basic fifth grade science.
That's nice, but why do I need a religion to tell me that?
Anyway, why are the women called Earths instead of "goddesses" if the men can be "gods"? I was told by a 5%er that it's because they revolve around the man, I didn't just make all this up myself.
Is that the extent of your alleged research? Somebody told you?? I've been a 5%er since 1986 and I'M telling you go and do some REAL study and research THEN come back to me. I have but so much space to make my point, I was trying to be brief. But I see you're not really hear to learn, just cause trouble among the righteous.
To be a "cult" one would have to be involved in a "religion". The Nation of Gods and Earths (NGE) is not, nor will it ever be a "religion". We are NOT religious people; we are righteous & civilized people teaching the knowledge of self to the human family. The black man & woman are the original people of the earth. That is a scientific, genetic, anthropological & historical fact. This is part of what we teach.
Again, basic biology, the first man was black. So what? No one's arguing against that. We learn it as kids. Why turn it all into a religion where you're using words like "god" to describe the original man and "devil" for whites? If you preach (or like you say "teach") then you're a religion. If your roots are in Islam, then you're a religion.
Show me another god. Show me that which is greater than myself. Tell your god to come holla at me, I got something for him...or should I say "it" as "him" is an adjective describing the male of a certain species, & according to you man aint god.
To those who don't believe in the Nation of Gods and Earths read the book of psalms as well as daniel and Revealations and you will know that the blackman is god, Power Equality Allah Cees Everything!
were in this condition because of wallace dodd ford elijah poole clarence jowars smith louis eugene walcott. preached the works of the devil to the africans in america i know my history i know were i came from i know everything my african ancestors did in the middle east, africans were practicing islam for 1000 years before slavery the african in africa would spit in your face if you went to him with the black man is god bs
You can't know your history talking like that. The fact that you call the cradle of civilization the "middle east", the use of the term "african" tells me a lot about state of thinking. Go study Ben Jochannan, John H. Clarke, Diop, Van Certimer who all bear witness to the Original Man's divinity. But you're a religious person, so how could I ever expect you to embrace any truth beyond the Holy Qur'an? THAT is what's holding our people back; a narrow and myopic view of Black Self.
You don't seem to understand, the primary focus it not on a literal sense of God in your clouded, juedochristian perspective. It is a recognization of the inherent power blessed upon ones self.
Why do you think we are in such a miserable state? We are taught to not control our own lives and to follow a path that is laid out before us. The NGE places emphasis on the family unit, building communities, and respect. If you can find anything altrusitic in those intentions, let me know.
i cant believe that any african in america would really believe this, this is just ignorant and our race doesn't understand why we are in this condition take a guess
Our people are in this condition because they lack the true knowledge of themselves and our natural enemy. Of ALL the knowledge in the world, the greatest of all is the Knowledge of Self. From remotest antiquity, the Blackman has been recognized as God; the Supreme Being. You show your own ignorance by ANY denial of the Original People's divinity! This reality goes beyond Qur'an, Bible, Torah, & even the Book of the Dead. ANCIENT antiquity!
When ALL religion is gone and finally done away with, the Blackman will STILL be known as God! Go study ancient antiquity, & you'll have to bare me witness the Blackman has been known as God for a VERY long time.
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nation of gods and earth aren't five percenters they are muslims.........Those aren't the Father's teachings........The teachings are in Medina because Pelan took over Mecca........
tahmirj 3 days ago
Puts a smile on my face. Peace to all the human families on the planet earth
GODUBUILD 1 week ago
Some racist niggas
PeriferiaSud90 3 months ago
does the nation have a problem with homosexuailty? what are their views on it?
xAvery96 1 year ago
@xAvery96 Homosexuality is unnatural & a learned negative behavior. It doesn't add on to the cipher of life, meaning no physical life can be produced from that type of behavior. We don't allow (knowingly) any homosexuality or lesbianism in our nation.
bmagnetic 1 year ago 4
are they any white or arabic people that practice this religion?
USAHOAX 1 year ago
White is just as much god as black, FOI is all about self worship and narcissism. I look at FOI that same as jehovas witness or SDA. An ignorant mans religion. Fill yourself so full of shit you cant tell the dif anymore. And the martyrdom aspect, nice touch! Poor righteous teachers, oh poor you, get a job like the rest of us.
makarios7541 1 year ago
(Continued) The followers of this pseud-religion, are men who drink, gamble, smoke, have babies out of wedlock to many women. Who pays for all this? Hardworking taxpayers! The White man is a Devil? But you your children accept his government ran Medicaid, Welfare, and Section 8. An embarassment to the Democratic Party, most certainly! Here is a mathematic lesson, GET A JOB!, provide for your OWN offsprings, and lets prevent wasteful domestic spending!
peechies77 1 year ago 3
@peechies77
Are u talking to those who consider themselves Christians, who make up over half the people in Amerikkka, living below the poverty line? Show and prove she who hides behide the name of a fruit...lol! Is that suppose to be tittlaiting or are u advocating a healthy diet? U are ignorant and the Democratic Party in and in itself an embarrassment to all who consider themselves Democratic...UnLearn and ReLearn!
QweenMagnetik 1 year ago
Clarence 13X was shot gambling, survived the incident and considered himself immortal. So he begins a movement calling every man immortal!Unfortunately, the followers of this pseudo-catastrophic religion have never read Friederich Nietzsche and "The Will To Power". This is clearly a 'bad spin-off' from a German philospher. Followers of this man {not prophet} have allowed themselves to live their lives just as wreckless as he did. (Cont'd)
peechies77 1 year ago
@peechies77 The deification of man is nothing new. Ancient Egyptians and many other African cultures believed in this. Islamic Sufism teaches that every man has a spark of the Divine in him and it is man's duty to cultivate that spark. This is all 5%ers are trying to do, though in my opinion a bit of a misguided way. However your equating this movement to German philosophy shows a lack of understanding of history itself. Such movements are as old as time.
BigPreme 9 months ago
GODS AND EARTHS WHAT A DISGRACE! Clarence 13X studied ISLAM and COMPLETED TWISTED IT UP! The balck man is not GOD! and the white man is not the devil you cant just outlaw another race like that. Islam calls for equality meaning all man are created equally. This religion THE NATION OF GOD's AND EARTHS IS COMPLETELY MADE UP!
sadi3mo3t 1 year ago
What in the fuck is a "balck man"?The "BLACK"man IS GOD,& the White man IS THE DEVIL.Read your Bible & KORAN,oh illiterate one.
EyeBeGod1 1 year ago
oh shutup
sadi3mo3t 1 year ago
Well said!
peechies77 1 year ago
@sadi3mo3t
OH MY! Ignorance is no cause for such anger or is it fear that I see in ur post? LOL! It must be terrifying to think for one second in our world that the black man is GOD...huh? My question to u is...what or who do u consider GOD to BE? To address ur statement of the NGE being made up...Who wrote the Holy Bible? Who is the founder of Christianity, Juadism, Islam are based on a BELIEF system. A system, I may add, that is based of anothers (persons) philosophy.
QweenMagnetik 1 year ago
What song is this?
arashiku 2 years ago
@arashiku Its the theme song to the Boondocks cartoon by Asheru
bmagnetic 2 years ago
thanks, man.
arashiku 2 years ago
at 41 seconds in
lordsubliminal 2 years ago
wow im in this video...from the 99 show and prove
lordsubliminal 2 years ago
im not a 5 %er but i study under elijahs teachings but u nonbelievers need to start coming right and exact becaz ya look like ya luv getting blasted. theis cats bring the truth raw and if ur weak and frail u will brake. so im just rying2 say ya some time try to come come all wise right and exact
kad4u 2 years ago
wow
freestyleroller12 2 years ago
You MUST be a American. I would be shocked if not. I know the drop out rate in America in large cities is something like 50%. Statements like this one clearly show America is in trouble. The lack of intelligence in this country will only harm us in the long run.
BigPreme74 2 years ago
*chuckle*
I have three degrees. One of which is in International Economics. I also know two languages and have a well paying job at a private university. So your statement is rather silly, not to mention knowledge and monetary gain are mutually exclusive.
BigPreme74 2 years ago
Peace,
No need to allow emotions to over take intelligence. I am Muslim (Sunni) but I do believe that man is a lord on Earth. I believe that when man refines himself (spiritually and intellectually) he can be far greater than most can possibly imagine. The Prophet Muhammad (saw) related to us in a hadith that Allah (swt) said if he made woman bow down to anything besides himself it would have been man, so what does that tell you?! With that said, there is a creator to whom all praises are due.
BigPreme74 2 years ago 4
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u prove to me that your god is real ask him when will u die? ask him how old r u? ask him to save all who is dieing 4 no reason. ask him why do babies die at birth what did they do? let me know if he give u the answer! but u claim ur god can do more then me prove it! ask him to do something easy 4 u like give u a cup of water i bet u ur god won't even do that 4 you! u need to learn about life. u should start studying and stop trying down another. i don't beleave in ghost! do u?
ricoreefthegod 2 years ago
What is this??? this isn't islam..this is not mentioned in the quran...astagfirollah, astagfirollah, astagfirollah...may Allah guide you to the right path.
Salam
LOCKMANakaAC 2 years ago
what a decline in your numbers......your hateful and rude ..god is in everyone not in one . but in ones self to manifest his or hers own destiny...y seperate when you can intergrate..your thinking very much like a racsist and not like a revolutionary
jcp5135 3 years ago
You know what though, I'm sick of the silly shit. Folks need to either study & know what the hell they're talking about or leave this page alone. I'm here to answer serious questions for anyone seeking the knowledge of self, but I will not tolerate "believers" in whatever religion spitting some rhetoric that's not in synch with the universal order of things; criticizing me for not recognizing a God outside of myself. I'm down 4 serious debate, but religious rhetoric from "believers" can move on.
bmagnetic 2 years ago 2
You are weak and you don't know how to develop a cifer, you have not proven anything to me! Allah is not a Genie I cannot command his manifestation. You study books, theories, and concepts yet our people are living 3rd rate, practice what you preach, one thing I can say about Elijah Muhmmad he didn't talk cash shit like his lost flock, he actually made things happen despite him banging every women in the NOI. Elijah and El Hajj after that only words and emotions!
nfldraftday2007 2 years ago
I never said I was TRYING to prove anything to you...& don't bring that happy horse shit that SOME 5%ers are living poorly. So are MANY in the human family who claim whatever religion/culture. I'm not living poorly...in fact, "7th Jewel Productions" IS my business. This is just a small part of what I do. I'm a videographer & I'm self-sustained from what I do. I don't work for nobody but myself! Is your spook god getting you money? Tell your god to come holla at me...
bmagnetic 2 years ago
That's good you are not sel-suffiecent you are a Jewish Zionist puppet, and material means nothing, I eat, I sleep, I survive, I live! I read the Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion and you kafirs are not threats to the powers to be, youre ideology is actually a cog in thier machine, they didn't fight crusades and gulf wars against 7th Jewel lol! stay docile in a sophisticated street, psuedo romanistic anthropromophist form of pagan christian material worship.
nfldraftday2007 2 years ago
@nfldraftday2007
..... right, and some scientist created white people in a laboratory. Get on somewhere with that man......
cdsplaya 1 year ago
what is the name of this song?
mwazi1 2 years ago
I bet you ain't even black, your a hybrid. Any one who claims to be supreme is racisttttt! Where is your knowledge based? a wd fard or x-klan rally. You sound blind by deception, allowing that late 80's rap culture dictate whats real-Hail Grand puba-orginal serpant!
luvoftruth 3 years ago
Coward ass closed your account.....how's that for intelligence. Go worship your spook god punk. Leave the building for the True & Living Gods, such as myself....
bmagnetic 3 years ago
The real problem is nobody remembers that the Blackman has ALWAYS been recognized as the SUPREME BEING from time immamorial....however nowadays he's been relegated to a "believer" and a "servant" to some immaterial etherial being. Prior to 6000 years ago, tell me who and what was recognized as God! Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Abraham are ALL "branch knowledge" in the grand scheme of things. The root of it all is the Blackman.
bmagnetic 3 years ago
These are words, they are flowery and poetic but prove that you are God? Prove that you are supreme? Don't give me ayah's and verses, give me proof!
How tall am I?
How old am I?
When will you die?
No you claim that you are God, but you are a G-d damn fool!
You are not God, LOL, You have no power save Alllah! May Allah guide you and your european anthropromorphic shirk!
nfldraftday2007 2 years ago
Anthropomorphism was the RULE OF THE DAY during Prophet Mohammed's time. Greek philosophical thought (spookism) is what crept into Islam (since you want to take it to a religious aspect) polluting it to what it is today. Prove to you I'm God? Prove it to YOURSELF by studying the history of the Blackman! Study astronomy & science and study how it relates to the Blackman! But you're just a follower aren't you...a believer. Stop being a coward & challenge what you "believe" & study the Blackman!
Zentertainment7 2 years ago
No for get studying European science books, prove that you are God, don't give me words and theories prove it. If you are God show me proof, the Quran said Allah is All-Knowing or AL-ALIM. Proove to me that you know everything Past, present, and future. Forget books I want to see it, show me right here right now, forget history yaqub, show me! I used to be a 5 percenter I am related to a family of southern immigrants their surname=Poole! Don't know me homie!
nfldraftday2007 2 years ago
Show me your god....& I'll show YOU and IT who the hell I am...Mr USED TO BE....get the hell outta here...You never was if you "used to be". Weak foundation & it shows.
bmagnetic 2 years ago
u prove to me that your god is real ask him when will u die? ask him how old r u? ask him to save all who is dieing 4 no reason. ask him why do babies die at birth what did they do? let me know if he give u the answer! but u claim ur god can do more then me prove it! ask him to do something easy 4 u like give u a cup of water i bet u ur god won't even do that 4 you! u need to learn about life. u should start studying and stop trying down another. i don't beleave in ghost! do u?
ricoreefthegod 2 years ago
Ask them bout' A.L.L.A.H-arm leg leg arm head-120 lessons in living mathematics-this all RACIST jargon! Created by the devil to make Black people think that White people are there enemy! The Egyptians were black and they enslaved the Jews to build there pyraimds!
luvoftruth 3 years ago
"Well if the whiteman ain't the devil, he'll do until the real one gets here."...Paul Mooney
Are you f*&king kidding me...racist! You cling to popular definition...what's real is that, Caucasians have got all over this planet changing (so-called civilizing) every "natural" culture for their bullsh*t.enslaved, raped, robbed, pillaged, diseased, everyone they've come in contact with so most people referring to the whiteman as the devil it's because of the CENTURIES of evidence
Trueasiatic 3 years ago
when whitepeople captialize its racist! when other people do its called conquering.....The americanized version of black culture got the world in a strong hold and as pointless as this culture is, good hard working people(white, black, asian etc tolerate 50 cent and these ignorant pebbled mouth talking bullshit artists pillaging society and demoralizing it, then blaming the whiteman-fuck you! you with your angery evolved SLAVE mentality-kill whitey, then yourself
luvoftruth 3 years ago
You seemed to have answered your own question, notice that any "natural" (ie. non-white peoples) only destroyed each other AFTER being colonized, enslaved by the WHITEMAN. Read if you truly have "Love(the correct spelling) of Truth" Once again read YOUR statement..."White people Capitalize". Why not just share? It's NOT in the devil's nature.Where are the native americans?Aboriginal Australians?Taino and Arawaks of the Carribean?
Trueasiatic 3 years ago
other races wish they had the capacity to truly capitlize. because the americanized black man is the preceder to the white devil, the so-called orginal man could graft his own horns back to own head and show the world who cain really was! Let see the tribal man flip his words and fool the world with his fast talking pagan ways!
luvoftruth 3 years ago
Right & exact!!!
bmagnetic 3 years ago
this isnt a religion, its a cult by definition
MoustyM 3 years ago
I'm not NGE but I study a little and I have lived the %5 life even before I knew about NGE. I have great respect for the movement. From what I have learned NGE isn't a religion or a cult and they don't profess to be Muslim. It's a social/educational movement which teaches knowledge of SELF to a people who's original knowledge of self has been stripped by the devil. Once original knowledge of self has been restored only then can one living the lifestyle of the savage beast become civilized.
SeanThePoet 3 years ago
who's the devil, Yacob? or The African Kings & Queens who sold out there own tribes of there Kingdom to slave merchants or is the so-called grafted cavedweller? Where does this wisdom originate? from a few self-proclaimed wanna be godz on a harlem street corner that spewed this hate and some lost sheep label it truth. Don't believe the hype!!!
luvoftruth 3 years ago
All fine and dandy, until they profess that we black people are gods in our own right... that is not cool.
dbneon 3 years ago
Anyone who manifests God in "Self" is God "themselves"! The traditional view of "God" as in the mindset of a monotheistic, heavenly creator is pure religious conjecture. NOE is, as I said, more of an education movement than a religion, sort of like Free Masonry. Don't get it twisted.
SeanThePoet 3 years ago
5 % are no muslims ... cause they don't RESPECT what is writtin in The Koran . 40 -45 % of the African American were muslims, but the europian jews and katholics ,stole there religion ,culture during slavery.
These so called muslims ,say that they follow and believe Islam , but they dont respect WHITE muslims ...(Eljah Poeh and Clarence are liars and hypocrits.)
Malcolm X is the real HERO , and his own people killed him , the NOI and you so called muslims should be ashamed
ekihoti 3 years ago
there not racist ill tell you for a fact i know them up in harlem and i'm white
stonybrooknick 3 years ago 3
time never was when man(mind)was not! the thoughts of allah cannot be circumscribed. there is no limit to knowledge. therfore, if one has not tapped into a certain degree of knowledge how can you know? the original man is the god of this plane of things made manifest. and the original people have no beginning nor ending.bet your life on it.peace to the gods and the earths!
salaamthemoor 3 years ago
um gonna brake it down like this...
if a man cant create a fly he isnt god
i think the NGE could use better names for things instead of taking from Islam & Arabic words... HOWEVER
the black man is the Original man and the Father of civilization ... AND
ALL men came from the black man so the whiteman's only logical existance is a grafted one
Peace to the Gods' & Earth's and all open minded righteous humans on the planet Asia!
from the GH (Steelz & Toronto)
PEACE!
AsiaticStar 3 years ago
From what i understand if ALLAH in the nation (arm.leg.leg.arm.head) is YOU being God in the sense that christians say (we are all made in his image) its a diff. embodiment its an empowering way to say you are a God which is a reason to do right .... I do however believe in the ideal of ALLAH in the sense of a god being the father (GOD) and then ALLAH becoming MAN since we're made in his image
roni333 3 years ago
i agree with the first part of your statement that they should use words other than BITE from arabic and islam but the rest of your statement is "racist, simple and plain." you need to stop seeing humans as only "black and white."
revolve616 3 years ago
Islam mean everyones who submitted to God(Allah) including the 1ST HUMAN ON EARTH,our 1st prophet,Adam(pbuh) untill Muhammad S.A.W,not forget Jesus(Isa,pbuh) as well,Amin..The greatest Allah is ONLY ONE! Amin
adnyyyyyy 3 years ago
word, brother.
D1VERZE 3 years ago
So very many rappers whom seem to be so intelligent with their rhymes, show their outright stupidity by their allegiance to this tomfoolery...they're even worser than being down with the Nation of Islam. I'm not even a Muslim but man, blatantly disrespectful to "real" Islam.
ydlafams 3 years ago
No one who is a real follower of Allah (Clarence 13X Smith)is disrespecting Islam. The NGE (along with the theology developed by W.D. Fard, Noble Drew Ali and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad) is an authentic African-American development of Islam, the first new development of the Islamic faith in centuries. Who are you to decide what "real" Islam is anyway?
t1201971 3 years ago 2
yo there a young pic of me in here
lordsubliminal 3 years ago
Every individual must recognize himself as God and work to eliminate all psychological weakness but be weary of lapsing into vanity. I've been on both ends of the spectrum and have seen the inadequacy of man when he strays from the noble path.
Krowsnose 4 years ago 7
the 5 percenters are whats up.
anyone who has found himself and knows the true natural way of life can identify with their purpose.
I'm white and am not familiar with the supreme mathematics or alphabet but can perceive it's all coming from the same truth.
Krowsnose 4 years ago 7
So you 5%ers don't believe in Ancestral Spirits that our forefathers have been worshipping for milleniums?
mbproject21 4 years ago
peace god, take the devil off of your planet
listhaemcee 4 years ago 2
Knowledge is the foundation; PEACE is elevation....Peace to the Sun, Moon, and Star....
567Unity 4 years ago
I've read all the comments so far but I have to ask you NGEs a question; WHY is it so important to you to be called God? Second, you keep saying that the blackman was once a God. BY WHO?!?! The first people didn't give a shit about that, they lived as primitive as they could. Humans have incredible flaws, both in their biological structure and everything else, we're by no More/less advanced or DIVINE as the typical mammal.
valhav 4 years ago
Show me a higher being than myself, then I'll submit, until then the Blackman is the Supreme Being of the planet Earth! And you ask by who...STUDY HISTORY...and NOT some bullshit by some white so-called scientist trying to hide the truth of the greatness of the original man, but a black scholar, like Dr Yosef Ben Jochannan, Cheikh Anta Diop, Ivan Van Sertima and others...these books bare witness to the Blackman is. STUDY!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
"Show me a higher being than myself, then I'll submit" Higher in what way? You think, just as religious freak, that the humans have a higher purpose unlike anything else on this earth.Truth is, you (and me of course) are as insignificant to this world/universe as the ant we keep stomping at each day. So I don't understand what you want with that quote. The irony is that you use the same rethoric as religious freaks only, you don't seem to believe in a "higher" being although technichally you do
valhav 4 years ago
So your average rabbit is able to chart the stars? Your average zebra has knowledge of tetrahedral mathematics? I suppose the giraffe can also break down the human genome? I ask again, what is higher than man? Who is more supreme than man?
bmagnetic 4 years ago
You really need to take reading skill classes. You didn't answer anything of what I asked or claimed. You just dodged the my post and came with this. But I will ask, do you think that it makes someone a "higher" being cause he can "count"? By such standard, a good mathemacian (sp?) is "higher" than your average mathemacian guy? Where the hell is the logic in that?
valhav 4 years ago
You didn't really ask anything...you may not like the answer I provided which is to attempt to provoke you to think outside of the box you're in, but apparently I have to spell it out for you. Higher in intelligence.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
No I didn't ask directly but my post was a claim and a claim is an indirect question. If you can't see my claim then you need to read again cause it's there and as such there is a question in that post.
valhav 4 years ago
so if all of u 5%ers arent muslims and believe black man is god.
stop using islamic words like allah, dat is wat allah has prescribed 4 me as a tru muslim and all the other bros and sistas 2 call him!!
u r not one of the ummah so find ur on terminologies!!
no man can be a god!!
allah is one!! for every god there is a goddess!! so u are not nor can u eva be allah.
the 5%ers allah is watching u all what a shame 2 think that people like u think they r allah
shame on u!!
U R NOT BELIEVERS!!!
Shabzana 4 years ago
We never claimed to be believers! NOT being believers is a compliment. No we are NOT believers & we are not muslims. There's a distinct difference between knowledge & belief. I KNOW who I am, & you're just a believer. Also, do Arabs & Muslims have a "exclusive" right to use the word Allah?? What emotional religious furvor!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
The sad part is you have NO IDEA who you are and what your purpose is
CGJUGO80 3 years ago
Also your "religion" is only 1400 years old. Go study the history of the Blackman & you'll see that the Blackman has been known as God the world over from remotest antiquity! This is KNOWLEDGE not belief. Signed with love, Allah! ;-)
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Aint no black man god!!u r soooooooo deluded its unblevable!!we al knw dat black peops had a bad history wit slavery and all but it dusnt gve anybody tha rite to put ur race on a pedastool.
im not racist!i luv multicultural diversity in any society but indirect racism is totaly uncalled for! so pls dont preach 2 me about the blak man and its history,we r living in the present. i aint white and i aint black and i dont claim 2 b better than anybody!!
Shabzana 4 years ago
Hey yeh and my deen did not start 1400 years ago Adam (pbuh) was made by allah as a beliver(muslim) and he submitted wholly 2 allah (islam) u nd 2 get da facts str8!!
i think u 4got 2 add HU AKBAR at the end of ur paragraph?
Shabzana 4 years ago
Oh okay, pardon me. Islam "started" 6000 years ago. Strange that the Blackman preceeds Adam by several million years...you go ahead with your "belief"...let me know when you're ready to come into the reality of Knowledge & Wisdom...I'll point some books out to you that you can study. Signed, yet again, Allah. ;-)
bmagnetic 4 years ago
so man started from bacteria or fungi and black man created the white and asian man? an tha black man makes it rain and makes the wind blow? help me undastand this mess? again the HU AKBAR? C'MON NOW!!;)
Shabzana 4 years ago
I never said that man started from bacteria/fungi. The caucasian taught you that. What I'm saying to you (if you want to go back that far) is that all 92 naturally occuring elements that exist in the universe have their origin in the Blackman. Our physical is composed of these elements which have their origin in us. The Sun was produced from these & it is the Sun that draws the water up from the earth until it distils back in the form of rain.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
so jst because u were acknowledged as gods once upon a time dusnt make u one!! wat abt all dem afrikaans with hiv can u cure dem? if u r god u must tell me da big mystery and if black man is god y were they enslaved for 100's of years? cudnt they help themselves being gods?
Shabzana 4 years ago
Peace,
Eye come in the name DivineAziatic Allah, Eye claim the last name of my Birth right, Eye came from my Source who is Allah. My Name Reflects the aspect of Allah Eye Represent. Divine is to be Pure and refined, Eye am a Pure and refined Aziatic Black Man in the Physical Embodiement of Allah. God is a level of Consciousness one strives to be with in the physical. Peace is the absence of confusion. The Devil keeps one confused to avoid them reaching the level of connection with Allah.
DivineAziatic7 3 years ago 3
and the blackman dusnt die just as we all do?
wat happens after dat so called allahs astgf.
i have skin just as you do i have red blood as u do n most likely a heart, kidneys the major organs n my body functions as urs dus. so how can u claim 2 b allah?
u mayb educated n knowldgeble abt certain things but dus dat really make u god?
insh. u will c da lite :)
i mke dua 4 u all 4rm da heart
cuz u r no diffrnt 2 me!
Shabzana 3 years ago
You don't know that the Blackman was ever acknowledged as being God because you don't know the Blackman's history. So before you start spouting religious belief & rhetoric STUDY then come back to me.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Hey so ur relegion promotes evolution?
if man started way b4 adam then u must?
der is no point in me talkin 2 sumbodies whose theory is way beyond reasoning!!
Shabzana 4 years ago 2
Again, we don't practice a religion...we practice a way of life which is called a culture. Which is why we don't "believe" we KNOW, which is the solid foundation on which you must stand in order to build. As far as evolution, I'll answer your question with this question: What does the arabic word raab mean? I'll point you in the right direction, it DOESN'T mean "lord".
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Peace, Islam is also a way of life not a religion so we have something in common. Rub has a few meanings 1.the total owner, 2.the one who is obeyed 3. the one who nourishes and sustains. I have a question too, bro why do you call yourselves Allah?
MansaMusa2 4 years ago
warning these people are not muslims!!!
wataG 4 years ago
So what yall thinkof the Bible?
Keysh35 4 years ago
mlmeyer1131 you're confusing the Nation Of Islam with the Nation Of Gods And Earths. 5 Percenters believe that anyone can be a Devil, not just the White man. And likewise believe that anyone can be "God" not just Black people. NGE is a culture, not a religion.
Glapo 4 years ago
This religion is the utmost load of monkey made up shit I've ever heard of. The "White Man" was invented by a black scientist to destroy the world?! *Laugh my fucking ass off* you guys are fucking retards. Way to put your racist spin on Islam.
mlmeyer1131 4 years ago
Mlmeyer1131, 1st we're NOT a religion. The Nation of Gods & Earths practices Islam as a culture & science, NOT a religion. 2nd, the whiteman is not a native ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET!! Where ever you go, you have taken the land over by force, & there was ALWAYS someone there before you. Now if you're not a native ANYWHERE, how did you get here? It's a scientific fact that black is original & dominant. Go read Gregor Mendel, one of YOUR white scientists, & then come talk to me.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Study up on the Anglo-Saxons friend. By the way did your scientist invent the Indian, Middle Eastern, Asian, Southern American, Aborigine peoples as well? Because he must have been one busy guy..
mlmeyer1131 4 years ago
Anglo-Saxons are not original either...they're migrants of Germanic decendency. So what's your point?? They were still NOT NATIVE their either. Every race on the planet has their root in the original black people in one way or another.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Yeah, he was realy busy, don't you know? He spent hundreds of years. Anyway, it's just a story to explain, that's what history is.
Without knowledge of self, you goin no where.
kenhoyt 4 years ago
Learning grammar is pretty tough huh... Well in any case, it's a retarded story for retards to believe. I'm sure that guy had a pretty neato science lab back in the day to manipulate genomes too. This story is truly AMAZING.
mlmeyer1131 4 years ago
5% dont belive that we jus belive that tha blaC man is the natural man
CraCCs30 4 years ago
so wut does that make every other man who is not black?
lilchickmimi 4 years ago
your cult is racist as hell
Blue112488 4 years ago
First of all it is impossible for any black person to be racist. Racisim is the POWER to negatively influence the lives of another group because of their color. Blacks in America do not have that kind of power. However, the TRUE racists had the power to invade a soverign nation, overthrow & kill it's ruler, & remain in that nation as an occupying force. You're looking at racisim on CNN, MSNBC, FOX as they cover this unfolding event & don't know what you're looking at.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
watch (EX NATION OF ISLAM COME TO THE SUNNAH)
LIPOTON 4 years ago
Very interesting Lipoton.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
no such thing as ex nation of islam com to the sunnah, I just responded on that Post however if they were students of Messenger Elijah Muhammad they never would have Left!!!! Orthodox Islam is in Old Islam, Teachings of Messenger Elijah Muhammad is New Islam!!!!!!
OsDeus7 4 years ago 3
God (Allah's) words are timeless/infinite. There is no new or old Islam. There is just Islam. Anything else is just innovation.
alotsum 4 years ago
Nice montage
Glapo 4 years ago
I've heard about these dudes, for this reason, I almost gave up my goal of becoming a dj for hiphop music, 5% believe in some stuff thats wrong like them being gods, ima catholic and thats a sin.
streetcurrency879 4 years ago
Streetcurrency879, is it a sin in Psalms 82:1 & 6? Or is it a sin from what Jesus said in John 10:34-36? Since you're a catholic, you should be familiar with those books & verses in the bible. Since you're a catholic, I'm encouraging you to study the history of catholocism & Constantine & the Nicean council & what happened in 325AD. VERY eye opening.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
So one could never convert to NGE really?
Blockvalue 4 years ago
Blockvalue, you don't "convert". The Nation of Gods and Earths is no religious entity. One comes into the knowledge of self & studies science & history. You learn & study why/how the Blackman is God & how other "races" came out of the original or Black nation. But you don't "convert". That's for a religion, which we are not.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
...it may have come from the NOI but the only reason is that clarence 13x, who denounced muslim and NOI beliefs later in life, founded it. it is believed that for this he was assassinated in the late 60's. research before you comment.
eboyd32 4 years ago
all everybody needs is some peace. if we had peace we would'nt be righting negative commentts. Why do you think 5percenters greet eachother 'peace god'?
AgentZero64 4 years ago
These are proper muslims, and the black man is god the white man is not original that is why he is so cruel and evil. there is about 20 percent of whites who arent racist. look what the whiteman did to hiroshima,japan that whole city had to be rebuilt because an atomic bomb was dropped on it and the city was wiped of the face of the earth, and in that incident he killed 100s of thousands of people including women and babies.and also killed 29 blak children in atlanta because of racism.
AgentZero64 4 years ago
you are misunderstanding the NGE. its has nothing to do with islamic faith or belief in Allah as one being. in the NGE, all people, regardless of race, creed or religion, are equal and all are gods themselves. in the NGE, ALLAH is an acronym: Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head, meaning human=god. its not a religion, it is a culture that believes in searching for the real, logical truths...
eboyd32 4 years ago
the nge believes the black man is god. not human man, black man. and that's man, not human, not man & woman. period. you may find some gods who will tolerate you as a white five percenter (in fact probably most will), but a lot won't and never will
khalithistle 4 years ago
if u guys disrespect gods and earths so much than why are you paying more attention to there religion than yours and y are you watching the vids made by them.
AgentZero64 4 years ago
this is a question that NONE of them will ever answer...
Blockvalue 4 years ago
peace thats why i sencerily love allahs mathematics it can be provin without a shadow of doubt....bmagnetic and malikgod peace...
udeenallah 4 years ago
let me ad on Islam is not a religion,it is the nature
of the original Man.Peace
malikgod 4 years ago
yall all a joke ,,,its as simples as dis ,,,did we create our selves or where we created? we are created as the sky and the earth are created,we our in control of nothing outside of our selves,,submit to the creator of the heaven and earth and all in between ,,,except TRUE ISLAM,
moodwings 4 years ago
If that's the level of understanding that you're on, & you're not trying to be elevated from that very low understanding, then me telling you YES, I AM THE ALPHA & OMEGA, THE BEGINNING & THE END, THE MAKER & OWNER OF ALL THAT YOU SEE, is totally gonna be over your head. As the Original Being, all creation came me the Blackman! I AM Islam!!!!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
powerful words your using, I was just gonna read and not say anything but this comment stopped me in my tracks, I really don't see how wha tyou say make any sense tho.
thekidfromphilly 4 years ago
That's because thekidfromphilly, with all due respect, you lack the true knowledge of yourself. From remotest antiquity, the black man was known all over the planet (regardless of culture) as God. It was only in the last 4000 - 6000 years that the reality of our identity was fully misunderstood and removed. But if you go back to your origin, you will see that man is God on Earth and God is man in "heaven". Think about it...
bmagnetic 4 years ago
make the moon split! always wanted to see two moons!
inad316 4 years ago
Show me your God and I'll make the moon split! Bring him to me and I'll do it...promise.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
lol...
look famo. u said "all creation came [from] me the Blackman". well then, split the moon for me. u said u created shit.. then create shit.
i just wanna see this unfold through logic
To show u proof of my god is irreverent to what i am asking. This is third grade thinking.
Hint: I am avoiding religion here!
inad316 4 years ago
Well if it's 3rd grade thinking you don't need the explanation that I can provide. If it's beneath you, then keep it that way.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
aight we'll keep it like this for now, but i'm not done tho. I still got some questions and stuff. i'll PM you later after my finals.
One.
inad316 4 years ago
bmagnetic> u must never get a cold or get ill.
i wonder do u take paracetamol or aspirin?
Shabzana 4 years ago
No, because I know how to eat to live. I eat the best of foods, 1 meal every 3 days....so no, I never get sick. You should read "How to Eat to Live" books 1 & 2 by the Hon. Elijah Muhmammad so you can enjoy the healty lifestyle that I do.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
I was raised in a cult too but it wasn't based on racism, it took a lot to grow out of it but it's possible, I hope the best for those kids.
fegu 4 years ago
I sware, the white man can tell you a white Jesus is God, & you take it with no questions asked, but the second a blackman stands up to say "I'm God" he's accused of being in a cult & something's "wrong" with him. The Black man was God BEFORE Jesus (& your cult) & the Black man will be God after all that foolishness & ignorance is done away with.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
Haha, will you learn to spell before or after that?
I never said I believed in a white man's fairy tale, I don't believe everything the white man tells me, I don't believe in a white Jesus, why would you accuse me of that? Who do you think you're talking to? You don't know a thing about me. I'm too wise to accept anything anyone says without thinking about it first.
fegu 4 years ago
Well if you're calling the Nation of Gods and Earths a cult, you ain't that wise homie...
bmagnetic 4 years ago
That's because you have bought into a twisted definition for the word wisdom, homie.
I guess I say "cult" because the "group" actually has such religious connotations to it. It's a uniquely American branch of a uniquely American religion (NOI) which itself is supposedly a branch of another religion --Islam. The group is also now into Egyptian mythologies/gods/religion.
fegu 4 years ago
But besides having religious roots, one of the worse things about it is that it is sexist --women are called Earths because they are meant to revolve around men? No self-respecting woman is going to join a group that tells her she was born to be subservient to men. That can only be done through brainwashing, like in a cult.
fegu 4 years ago
And besides being religious and sexist, the worst thing about this group is that it solely based on the irrational idea that someone is somehow superior to others because of their skin. Kind of like what Hitler taught. There is no difference in what white supremacists say and what this group says, essentially "anyone who doesn't look like us are less than us."
fegu 4 years ago
So it's a religious, sexist, and racists group, I'm sorry if "cult" offended you. Like I said, I don't buy into what anyone says without analyzing what they're about first. So like I said, I hope that the kids brought up in this environment can eventually see that they are part of the human family, instead of learning to hate others.
fegu 4 years ago
We TEACH the human family. We have 5%ers from EVERY member of the human family (including white). So before you speak more of what you have no clue about, go TRULY study. If you really "analyzed" what we're about you wouldn't be spitting this nonsense. If you want me to teach you, all you need to do is ask; it's my duty to teach ALL the human family of the planet earth.
7thJewelProductions 4 years ago
You teach WHAT? As far as I have seen, NGE teach their kids that the white man is the devil and the black man is god. Is that what is your duty to teach? That's absurd fanaticism.
fegu 4 years ago
I never said the white man wasn't the devil. I have at the very LEAST 400 years of proof of that reality...not even getting into years before that. Their history (particularly in this country) is written in the black man & woman's & native Americans BLOOD!!!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
as far as this, any single race that dominates, subjugates an executes as many races/ethnic groups has to be working at the hands of the devil.
Blockvalue 4 years ago
i want to gain some knowledge from you. i am a white man trying to get into the teachings and i want to know more. you seem to know a lot. i have believed everything of the NGE since 15 years before i knew about it (when i was 3) and when i started researching (thanks to rakims music) it all made sense.
eboyd32 4 years ago
Shoot a note to my account. I'll give you some info on the 5%
bmagnetic 4 years ago
they're not going to accept you
streetcurrency879 4 years ago
See you're making irrational statements without first doing the knowledge, or KNOWING what you're talking about. We never said we're better than anybody. However it is a scientific, historic, genetic, etc. fact that black people are the original people on this planet. That's not racisim, that's a fact. Gregor Mendel (the geneticist) bears witness to this fact....I suggest you go study & come back when you're more learned instead of spitting misconceptions & lies about the NGE.
7thJewelProductions 4 years ago
If I call someone a devil, and I call myself god, then yes, I'm saying I am better than them. Or is calling someone a devil considered a compliment? I don't think so.
Either way, are you going to tell me that because black people were here first they are "gods" and the whites who evolved as they moved north are "devils"? Now you're being deceptive by mixing real science with myths. How could you not be a religion where the very words you use are religious?!
fegu 4 years ago
No YOU said that ("whites evolved as they moved north"...I never said that; here you go again saying something I DIDN'T say)! And use some COMMON sense homie; if we WERE a religion, why would I say I'M GOD???? I would NEED a God outside of myself to worship if this were a religion...duh
bmagnetic 4 years ago
I know that black people were here first, why bring that up? I know that, everyone knows that, no need to tell me to study that and come back, I know that already, but what's your point? How do you jump from that- to telling people that black men are "gods"? That's where real science stops and illogical religious theories take over.
fegu 4 years ago
I bring that up because people do NOT know that! That's why its called knowledge of self, and my people are in the condition they're in because they DON'T have it! I'm God, because I am the supreme being. I am the highest form (supreme) of existence (being) in this universe. If I'm not God, show me yours...and I'll kick his ass!!!!!!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
just been browsin thru all 5 pages and this stood outt, I'm actually anglican so don't jump on me or anything. I can't think of any religion of the top of my head that does NOT put women in an inferior women to men. Shit, Christianity has been distorted to place women in the position they were, and in many cases still in. So I don't see what makes NGE any more sexist, if their is in fact sexist views in their doctrine
Blockvalue 4 years ago
When you plant a seed in the earth, what comes up? LIFE! Life emerges from the earth once a seed is planted. Likewise when we plant our seed (sperm) into her, she produces LIFE from her womb like the planet earth produces life from the ground. A nation rises no higher than its woman, because without her NO nation on the planet could exist. So she has a divine place in God's universe; not behind me but beside me. She's not my servant, she's my Queen (17).
7thJewelProductions 4 years ago
Are you seriously trying to teach me how babies are made? HAHA what you're saying is basic fifth grade science.
That's nice, but why do I need a religion to tell me that?
Anyway, why are the women called Earths instead of "goddesses" if the men can be "gods"? I was told by a 5%er that it's because they revolve around the man, I didn't just make all this up myself.
fegu 4 years ago
Is that the extent of your alleged research? Somebody told you?? I've been a 5%er since 1986 and I'M telling you go and do some REAL study and research THEN come back to me. I have but so much space to make my point, I was trying to be brief. But I see you're not really hear to learn, just cause trouble among the righteous.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
@fegu Brilliant choice of words for a well cultured individual. Great post!
peechies77 1 year ago
To be a "cult" one would have to be involved in a "religion". The Nation of Gods and Earths (NGE) is not, nor will it ever be a "religion". We are NOT religious people; we are righteous & civilized people teaching the knowledge of self to the human family. The black man & woman are the original people of the earth. That is a scientific, genetic, anthropological & historical fact. This is part of what we teach.
7thJewelProductions 4 years ago
Again, basic biology, the first man was black. So what? No one's arguing against that. We learn it as kids. Why turn it all into a religion where you're using words like "god" to describe the original man and "devil" for whites? If you preach (or like you say "teach") then you're a religion. If your roots are in Islam, then you're a religion.
fegu 4 years ago
Show me another god. Show me that which is greater than myself. Tell your god to come holla at me, I got something for him...or should I say "it" as "him" is an adjective describing the male of a certain species, & according to you man aint god.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
you can interpret the supreme mathematics and alphabet as you wish but i was just going to let you know that i am a white 5%er.
eboyd32 4 years ago
So you belive you were created by Yakub?
fegu 4 years ago
To those who don't believe in the Nation of Gods and Earths read the book of psalms as well as daniel and Revealations and you will know that the blackman is god, Power Equality Allah Cees Everything!
Mallah81 4 years ago
lol
juelzl 4 years ago
were in this condition because of wallace dodd ford elijah poole clarence jowars smith louis eugene walcott. preached the works of the devil to the africans in america i know my history i know were i came from i know everything my african ancestors did in the middle east, africans were practicing islam for 1000 years before slavery the african in africa would spit in your face if you went to him with the black man is god bs
juelzl 4 years ago 3
You can't know your history talking like that. The fact that you call the cradle of civilization the "middle east", the use of the term "african" tells me a lot about state of thinking. Go study Ben Jochannan, John H. Clarke, Diop, Van Certimer who all bear witness to the Original Man's divinity. But you're a religious person, so how could I ever expect you to embrace any truth beyond the Holy Qur'an? THAT is what's holding our people back; a narrow and myopic view of Black Self.
bmagnetic 4 years ago
You don't seem to understand, the primary focus it not on a literal sense of God in your clouded, juedochristian perspective. It is a recognization of the inherent power blessed upon ones self.
Why do you think we are in such a miserable state? We are taught to not control our own lives and to follow a path that is laid out before us. The NGE places emphasis on the family unit, building communities, and respect. If you can find anything altrusitic in those intentions, let me know.
Peace.
dddipsettt 4 years ago
i cant believe that any african in america would really believe this, this is just ignorant and our race doesn't understand why we are in this condition take a guess
juelzl 4 years ago 2
Our people are in this condition because they lack the true knowledge of themselves and our natural enemy. Of ALL the knowledge in the world, the greatest of all is the Knowledge of Self. From remotest antiquity, the Blackman has been recognized as God; the Supreme Being. You show your own ignorance by ANY denial of the Original People's divinity! This reality goes beyond Qur'an, Bible, Torah, & even the Book of the Dead. ANCIENT antiquity!
bmagnetic 4 years ago
When ALL religion is gone and finally done away with, the Blackman will STILL be known as God! Go study ancient antiquity, & you'll have to bare me witness the Blackman has been known as God for a VERY long time.
7thJewelProductions 4 years ago