take those panels and put them in the basement.first you take a parabolic solar concentrator and put an robotic arm on it to follow the suns path.then make the focal point a mirrored shape cone that will send the light down through mirrored glass tubing straight into a mirrored shape glass box inside the mirrored shape box will be several solar panels that spin to keep them cool the mirrored box must have the mirrors inward to reflect the light sending from the parabolic focal point.ken van horn
@davepamn I do not have a film supplier for this product yet. I am still in the development stages. This varies from each PV film. When I have more answers I will contact you.
@gosolar11 Unisolar, Atlantis Energy Systems and Dow Solar Solutions all have a version of a Solar Shingle. After almost 40,000 hits, if you dont have a Thin film provider......doesnt seem like you will ever get one! Sometimes you have to help the thin film manufacturer and design yourself around their product.
Hello, how is your project going so far? I would like to talk to you about it. Might be able to help get this going. Can you send me your email or post it here? thx.
This is no different than any other solar powered shingle. One has to make sure that all the connections are tested before the next row is installed. (same as any other)
There is a difference. I have been involved in the construction industry for 30 years and most solar shingle products pass wires through to the attic so that connections are accessible. Your product will never meet NEC code requirements for accessible connections.
If you had a bad connection there would be no way to find it. You have to engineer these issues into your product.
I have been involved with code issues and product testing, I normally charge for this type of consulting :)
There are many new smaller solar tile that work in the same way (Sole, Sunslates, Eagle green) to name a few. These all connect under the shingles without penetrating the roof deck. The difference between my idea and these are, the wind rating from the metal shingle, and the idea that the dummy shingles match EXACTLY, not just have the same profile, not just can be integrated, but exactly so one can not tell one from the other after installation.
Let me get this right, this was posted in April 2008 Its now Jan. 2010 and your telling the guy below its not available yet ? Sounds a little odd to me.
This is somewhat of a new technology, right ? So how long will it last last ? What is the min power out of the cell ?
Sorry it took so long for a reply. This was posted to try and get someone to make this for me. I had the idea, applied for the patent, but have no manufacturing experience, so I need help in that area. I have had some interest but not yet the right person. The shingle and the film are proven existing technologies, my idea was to put them together, with the dummy film.
gosolar11, High temp does bear down on performance of any solar module or thin film. Solar Slates by Atlantis Energy are kind of the same idea and have been out for a while on a composite shingle. Dow Solar Solutions ripped off the same idea to make a solar shingle with thermal plastic embedded with Global Thin Film. Are you going to sue Dow for Patent Violation? You better hire a good attorney.
The solar slates and dow product are the reason my invention is better. While they say their shingle and solar shingle match the don't, these are a PERFECT match solar and dummy.
Thin film and traditional silicon PV are now offered in different colors so color matching is not really a big deal anymore. Besides why would you make your whole roof dark? That would make your roof less energy efficient and lower the PV performance because of a higher surface temperature.
Some people and or homeowners associations still want their roof to match completely. This is the reason these others TRY to match. They just have not been successful at it. As you said, there are choices now in colors because people want a nice looking roof, the same holds true for matching.
So for $800 to $1000 per square, What you are offering is really a color matching solution? Really I believe the first hurdle that should be overcome is the great expense to the homeowner to include PV. I dont really think the consensus would care about aesthetics much if they had an energy solution that would roll their FPL meter backwards.
Personally I wouldn't care if there was an elaphant on my roof if it was cheap and saved me money on my electric bill. However, by the attempts of others to match(and the failure to do so) there is a demand for this, and this is the best and only perfect match. $800 to $1000 a square is also on of the cheapest solutions
What an akward way to install those tiny bits. Go and buy a roofing membrane from a roofing membrane manufacturer with a Uni Solar flex module onto it and you do your roof in a jiffy and with less connections to do. Since membrane is larger than module surface, you can shingle and still have no shadowing. And you get a 25 y guarantee from a supplier with years of experience.
A PV Industry Professional (not on UniSolar payroll)
The object of this style roof is not to just install solar on a roof. That can be acomplished with many different solar panels. The pupose of this roof is to have a totally integrated roof where the solar is indistinguishable from the area that is regular shingles. The base shingle is a 30 yr shingle with the same film attached that you speak of. As far as connections, any conection that fails is a problem no matter how many. The twistlock connections with dyelectric grease do not come apart.
This is a prototype, and still a work in progress. I have approached many solar companies with no buyers yet. The age would depend on which companies film I would use. The shingle itself will last 25 yrs.
Im going to buy a house in 1 year so either i wait until the shingles get old or buy them once i get the house. If the cost is low then i just get a whole bunch.
The demand is for an affordable solar roof integrated product that looks good and performs well. As any proud inventor, I would caution you to think your solution is the "best and perfect match". We have a roof solution that is just as good and already is in production with Florida and Miami Dade County approvals.
I think this is a very good idea, but you should not let the solar shingles shadow each other, if they do, they will not generate much power. All panels should be FULLY exposed to sunlight to work properly, any areas actually covered will actually suck power from your power storage unit or not generate any power at all for that particular shingle.
cool. but since they wired in series wut happens when one of the wires dont connect ne more. then u got an entire row of non functioning shingles. cool idea tho
Not directly related to the PV cells, but I guess you know about this stuff. A simple tech is to use solar thermal capture panel on a roof as assistance to heat water for hot water and house heating. It is common in southern Europe e.g. Greece, but also works in colder locations like Germany and Denmark. Is it common in Florida and other US states?
What about heat deterioration over time? The wires underneath as well. Separation of the film from the metal over time?
Thanks.
Otherwise, I can't see any problem with this system other than it being TOO good. We could eliminate the need for power stations, just have each house tie into the grid.
I don't see any of those issues as being a problem. We have existing technologies already for each one of them. My invention takes existing technologies and tries to put them to a better more cosmetic use.
do you cut the panels for the ridges?
choochinbigtime420 3 months ago
i emailed u the other day looking for more info i think u have a great product
lordbiran1 10 months ago
Awesome product, awesome concept - I mailed you - let know how this progresses, please! :)
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take those panels and put them in the basement.first you take a parabolic solar concentrator and put an robotic arm on it to follow the suns path.then make the focal point a mirrored shape cone that will send the light down through mirrored glass tubing straight into a mirrored shape glass box inside the mirrored shape box will be several solar panels that spin to keep them cool the mirrored box must have the mirrors inward to reflect the light sending from the parabolic focal point.ken van horn
kennethvanhorn 11 months ago
best idea i have seen...
mike5927652 1 year ago
How many amps will an average roof produce?
davepamn 1 year ago
@davepamn This all depends on the size of the roof, and how many powered shingles are installed.
gosolar11 1 year ago
900 square feet of roof
davepamn 1 year ago
@davepamn I do not have a film supplier for this product yet. I am still in the development stages. This varies from each PV film. When I have more answers I will contact you.
gosolar11 1 year ago
@gosolar11 Unisolar, Atlantis Energy Systems and Dow Solar Solutions all have a version of a Solar Shingle. After almost 40,000 hits, if you dont have a Thin film provider......doesnt seem like you will ever get one! Sometimes you have to help the thin film manufacturer and design yourself around their product.
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I am not a thin film supplier. I am researching solar power.
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perplexfraction 1 year ago
That is so cool!
mischief13 1 year ago
Hello, how is your project going so far? I would like to talk to you about it. Might be able to help get this going. Can you send me your email or post it here? thx.
burrant61 1 year ago
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gosolar11 1 year ago
Nice system- I searched all over here, you are the only one who can show it- rest have pictures.
If Regulators stop you they need to b regulated.
captkirkconnell 1 year ago
I am not sure I would trust that many connections. What if one connection is defective? How do you find it and repair it?
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
This is no different than any other solar powered shingle. One has to make sure that all the connections are tested before the next row is installed. (same as any other)
gosolar11 1 year ago
There is a difference. I have been involved in the construction industry for 30 years and most solar shingle products pass wires through to the attic so that connections are accessible. Your product will never meet NEC code requirements for accessible connections.
If you had a bad connection there would be no way to find it. You have to engineer these issues into your product.
I have been involved with code issues and product testing, I normally charge for this type of consulting :)
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
There are many new smaller solar tile that work in the same way (Sole, Sunslates, Eagle green) to name a few. These all connect under the shingles without penetrating the roof deck. The difference between my idea and these are, the wind rating from the metal shingle, and the idea that the dummy shingles match EXACTLY, not just have the same profile, not just can be integrated, but exactly so one can not tell one from the other after installation.
gosolar11 1 year ago
Let me get this right, this was posted in April 2008 Its now Jan. 2010 and your telling the guy below its not available yet ? Sounds a little odd to me.
This is somewhat of a new technology, right ? So how long will it last last ? What is the min power out of the cell ?
This sounds good but I want to know more.
fred30680 2 years ago
Sorry it took so long for a reply. This was posted to try and get someone to make this for me. I had the idea, applied for the patent, but have no manufacturing experience, so I need help in that area. I have had some interest but not yet the right person. The shingle and the film are proven existing technologies, my idea was to put them together, with the dummy film.
gosolar11 2 years ago
I need a roof and no electric bills,or a low bill. HOw can I get this product?
yahcahnah 2 years ago
It is not yet available. I will update you when it is
gosolar11 2 years ago
gosolar11, High temp does bear down on performance of any solar module or thin film. Solar Slates by Atlantis Energy are kind of the same idea and have been out for a while on a composite shingle. Dow Solar Solutions ripped off the same idea to make a solar shingle with thermal plastic embedded with Global Thin Film. Are you going to sue Dow for Patent Violation? You better hire a good attorney.
artezanosdotcom 2 years ago
The solar slates and dow product are the reason my invention is better. While they say their shingle and solar shingle match the don't, these are a PERFECT match solar and dummy.
gosolar11 2 years ago
Thin film and traditional silicon PV are now offered in different colors so color matching is not really a big deal anymore. Besides why would you make your whole roof dark? That would make your roof less energy efficient and lower the PV performance because of a higher surface temperature.
artezanosdotcom 2 years ago
Some people and or homeowners associations still want their roof to match completely. This is the reason these others TRY to match. They just have not been successful at it. As you said, there are choices now in colors because people want a nice looking roof, the same holds true for matching.
gosolar11 2 years ago
So for $800 to $1000 per square, What you are offering is really a color matching solution? Really I believe the first hurdle that should be overcome is the great expense to the homeowner to include PV. I dont really think the consensus would care about aesthetics much if they had an energy solution that would roll their FPL meter backwards.
artezanosdotcom 2 years ago
Personally I wouldn't care if there was an elaphant on my roof if it was cheap and saved me money on my electric bill. However, by the attempts of others to match(and the failure to do so) there is a demand for this, and this is the best and only perfect match. $800 to $1000 a square is also on of the cheapest solutions
gosolar11 2 years ago
What an akward way to install those tiny bits. Go and buy a roofing membrane from a roofing membrane manufacturer with a Uni Solar flex module onto it and you do your roof in a jiffy and with less connections to do. Since membrane is larger than module surface, you can shingle and still have no shadowing. And you get a 25 y guarantee from a supplier with years of experience.
A PV Industry Professional (not on UniSolar payroll)
petaxl 2 years ago
The object of this style roof is not to just install solar on a roof. That can be acomplished with many different solar panels. The pupose of this roof is to have a totally integrated roof where the solar is indistinguishable from the area that is regular shingles. The base shingle is a 30 yr shingle with the same film attached that you speak of. As far as connections, any conection that fails is a problem no matter how many. The twistlock connections with dyelectric grease do not come apart.
gosolar11 2 years ago
Temp has no bearing on performance. Only sunshine
gosolar11 2 years ago
how do these work in the cold like a michigan winter cus all this solar stuff real big in cali where it dont get cold, im jus wondering
Lueyrush 2 years ago
heat buildup gonna reduce output from those panels heaps.
cabbaze 2 years ago
Bird shit?
meatcannon 2 years ago
Screw the solar companies. You need venture capitalists and take this to market. U can use my house for a display model.
tlully 2 years ago
This is a prototype, and still a work in progress. I have approached many solar companies with no buyers yet. The age would depend on which companies film I would use. The shingle itself will last 25 yrs.
gosolar11 2 years ago
Great video. I wonder whats the cost per shingle?
Im going to buy a house in 1 year so either i wait until the shingles get old or buy them once i get the house. If the cost is low then i just get a whole bunch.
LoveandEqualityToAll 2 years ago
No fixed cost yet. I am still working on getting these manufactured. Send me an email and I will keep you updated.
gosolar11 2 years ago
Thanks for reply. :)
LoveandEqualityToAll 2 years ago
The demand is for an affordable solar roof integrated product that looks good and performs well. As any proud inventor, I would caution you to think your solution is the "best and perfect match". We have a roof solution that is just as good and already is in production with Florida and Miami Dade County approvals.
artezanosdotcom 2 years ago
Get rid of the wires. Use a fit connection. What is the age rating? Patent this and goto General Electric!!!
alpenglow123 2 years ago
I think this is a very good idea, but you should not let the solar shingles shadow each other, if they do, they will not generate much power. All panels should be FULLY exposed to sunlight to work properly, any areas actually covered will actually suck power from your power storage unit or not generate any power at all for that particular shingle.
idstealth 2 years ago
How can I contact you directly regarding these shingles?
chestnutdeb 2 years ago
Can I purchase these yet?
chestnutdeb 2 years ago
cool. but since they wired in series wut happens when one of the wires dont connect ne more. then u got an entire row of non functioning shingles. cool idea tho
bmed19 2 years ago
It is wired in paralel
gosolar11 2 years ago
this is still a prototype, when it is prodution I'm sure this will be tested
gosolar11 3 years ago
How does the roof stand up to walking on as sometimes happens.
goofboot 3 years ago 2
my shingle in the video produces electricity. The system the comment was on is to heat water only
gosolar11 3 years ago
Yes it is. We see it for swimming pool heat also.
gosolar11 3 years ago
does this actually produce electricity or is it just for heating?
tamilmannan 3 years ago
@GoSolar11
Not directly related to the PV cells, but I guess you know about this stuff. A simple tech is to use solar thermal capture panel on a roof as assistance to heat water for hot water and house heating. It is common in southern Europe e.g. Greece, but also works in colder locations like Germany and Denmark. Is it common in Florida and other US states?
rif42 3 years ago
Sorry this post is so late (holidays) Metal roofs are available in freezing areas already and have no problem with the cold.
gosolar11 3 years ago
i live in ny. What are the downfalls when this metal shingle gets below freezing in the winter??
jamesgambino 3 years ago
how much does this cost?
qtrinh 3 years ago
This isn't in production yet, so no firm cost yet. However I have cost estimates posted on the website. The link is under other info
gosolar11 3 years ago
Looks great.
Suggestions:
1. Promote impact resistance.
2. Use Kynar coated panels.
3. Look into an elevated batten system to promote air flow under to draw the heat away from the interior.
4. DO NOT USE ADHESIVE BACKED UNDERLAYMENT. heat drive will make the adhesive flow, possibly staining the edge, rake, and facsia.
5. Use 'Vented Nailbase (R-Max)' or Atlas Crossvent and utilize sofet and ridge venting. you could possibly bury cables within the insulation.
i think your on to something
ruaidiot 3 years ago
What about problem with cooling of backside of the solar PV cells? Do they still work well if roof becomes 50-60 degree Celsius?
rif42 3 years ago
I am still not making these, but looking for a manufacturer of film to partner with. I'm sure these issues will be addressed in testing
gosolar11 3 years ago
If I buy a home I am getting this. Can this be put right over an existing roof?
musiclover1958 3 years ago
It is better to tear off and go to the plywood
gosolar11 3 years ago
What about heat deterioration over time? The wires underneath as well. Separation of the film from the metal over time?
Thanks.
Otherwise, I can't see any problem with this system other than it being TOO good. We could eliminate the need for power stations, just have each house tie into the grid.
Good luck finding a backer.
saxmanchiro 3 years ago
I don't see any of those issues as being a problem. We have existing technologies already for each one of them. My invention takes existing technologies and tries to put them to a better more cosmetic use.
gosolar11 3 years ago
what do you mean in your page by square a square of shingle for $3000 dollars or a square meter of shingles. i can't understand the square
felix26591 3 years ago
A Sauare is 10 feet by 10 ft
approximatly 9 sqare meters
gosolar11 3 years ago
Would an area 10x10 make enough energy for a small home?
Creatorisintherain 3 years ago
where are you located? Get in touch with me if you can
jamonic1 3 years ago
vero beach FL. There is a website in the information part of the you tube page with all my contact info and more about the shingle
gosolar11 3 years ago
thanks.
jamonic1 3 years ago
I wish you could give more facts as to what/how much energy is produced :)
n8rsk8r1 3 years ago 3
Look at the website in the information box for that. I was limited in time on the video
gosolar11 3 years ago
GET THESE TO THE PUBLIC IMMEDIATElY!!!
pgdevil 3 years ago 8
Let me know when these are in production.
rbrdvb420 3 years ago 5
Very, very nice!
solarshingles 3 years ago 2