Kuban Cossacks Chorus - Кубанский Казачий Хор 4

[tonkayaryabina]

И еще не понятно, почему в обсуждение лезет англоговорящий респондент. Он что нюансы нашей истории знает и понимает лучше? Мы сами как-нибудь разберемся, свои собаки дерутся- чужая не мешай. understand?

[manulrus]

люди, родные, да вы что????????????????

я со стула от вас упаду сейчас...

какой кавказский, какая лезгинка??

Гопак и Во поле берёзка!!!!

дожили...

[yetibones]

Only anglo-saxon idiots try to compare us. We are one people -- Slav and Circassions -- all rolled into one! Smrt catolicis-mu i Islam-u! I-takodje svi ko nas dira! Jebem van majku sve izdajice sveta i janicare!!!!!

[vlad4579z]

Был вчера на их концерте и был именно этот танец а вообще шикарный хор а какие там красивые девушки это просто пальчики оближешь!!! Все как на подбор, а какие сильные голоса, браво хор, браво Захарченко!!!

[rasoliv]

нет братцы!!! так мы и слонов в жирафы запишем

[Anatoliy550]

Блюстителям чистоты крови на заметку: Отчего Русские женщины так красивы? - Оттого, что большая примесь татаро-монгольской крови. Это сочетание даёт потрясающий результат! У казачек добавлена часть кавказско-турецкой,-тоже все-красавицы!

[RussenVolk]

Это у тебя примесь монгольской крови в голове.Не обобщай,а учи историю.Ордынцы с русичами не смешивались.

[Prokuror11]

@RussenVolk Поглядел эту переписку... Потрясающе. Выходит, что все Русские историки были неправы, а вы - впереди всех! Это вы, любезнейший загляните в соч. Карамзина, Ключевского, С.М. Соловьёва. Откуда тогда взялись Юсуповы, Нарышкины, Карамзины?... Конечно же, не смешивались с Ордынцами Псковичи, Новгородцы и жители северных губерний, но прочие... Не знаю, любезнейший, КАКУЮ вы Историю учили...

[RussenVolk]

@Prokuror11 При чем здесь СОЧИНЕНИЯ чьи то?))) Есть наука,есть гаплогруппы,слышали что это?Если нет,то Гугл в помощь.У русских НЕТ монгольских гаплогрупп.Есть такой сайт slavanthro.ru ,зайдите пообщайтесь,там люди профессионально занимающиеся вопросами антропологии,все узнаете.

[Prokuror11]

@RussenVolk Феноменально! Татаро-монгольского ига не было!! (или "угро-финское"). Читал, смотрел... Стало быть, всех историков вон и дорогу новой вот этой науке? В "Анненербе" уже было нечто подобное. Как и "теория полой земли". Гауссгоффер, Горбигер, Сиверс, Гюрджиев. Всё это уже было.

[RussenVolk]

@Prokuror11 При чем здесь зависимость от Орды и совместное проживание или кровосмешение????Ты путаешь понятия,причины и следствия.

Историк 18 века Болтин писал: «Татары, завоевав удельные княжества одно по

одному, наложили на порабощенных дани, оставили для взыскания сел своих

баскаков и по городам войска, сами возвратилися восвояси. При владычестве их

управляемы были русскими теми же законами, кои до владения их имели. Нравы,

платья, язык, названия людей и стран осталися те же."

[tonkayaryabina]

@RussenVolk Ну, добровольно, может быть, и не смешивались, но при набегах их насиловали, похищали. вот почему мы такие чернявые.

[RussenVolk]

@tonkayaryabina Это миф.С монголами не смешивались,в браки не вступали,семей не создавали.Русские земли управлялись русскими.Совместного проживания не было.А в военных действиях,если захватывался город,те кто не успел уйти или погибали или были угнаны и обратно не возвращались.

[MrWerewoolf]

накрутил себе чтоли !? ничего чище и прекрасней чем русская кровь в жилах течь не может !!!!!

[ip260784]

да, я тож с настолько ярко выраженными элементами горных танцев неразу не видел

интересно кто ставил

[Lesiem111]

хе, интересно с элементами лезгинки

[WolfSS9]

при чём тут лезгинка вообще?Казачья культура ничего общего с кавказом не имеет

[EkaterinaSladkaYa]

Вероятно что Казаки брали себе жён из земли Черкесской! (см. Моё видео "Начало Донских Казаков") Именно по этому у Казаков очень часто присутствуют темные волосы и карие глаза...вот и делаем выводы

[MrWerewoolf]

почитай историю терских казаков !

[FrenzyFCSM]

очень много общего имеет, но казаки не ложились под кавказ, а клали под себя кавказ и перенимали у них многое, в т.ч. и лезгинку.

[EgregorRato]

Вообще-то, правильно не казачий, а козачий.

От слова козак. А само козачество подразумевает вольного свободного человека. И по сути, украинские, кубанские, и любые дугие козаки одно и тоже.

[RussenVolk]

Что все единый народ -согласен...Но правильно все же -кАзак

[EgregorRato]

Да, уже я в целях повышения грамотности, давно в словарь заглянул:)

[tonkayaryabina]

@RussenVolk Совершенно верно! Именно КАЗАК!

[angryrussian123]

kuban krasnodar volgograd belaya glina

kubanski narod

kubanskie koaki

vseh v kapustu porubaem

[cortezawwris]

Secondly what now eastern Ukrainian and Crimean peninsula is and never will be Ukrainian land that be apart Russian empire long before. The people who live there don't and never will consider apart of traitor nation and want to be apart of russia. You american scum and ignorant and i spit on you

[369bo]

Kyiv-Rus (Ukraine) came 150+ years before Moscow/Muscovy (Russia). Since Kyiv came before Moscow, if you want 1 big country, erase the borders & Russia can become part of a big UKRAINE! Because Kuban is more Russian today doesn't change the FACT that it was more Ukrainian in 1897. My previous message is factual but you probably don't have access to such information in "free" Russia. My parents were born in Ukraine & I do know my facts. Your last sentence shows your lack of Russian class.

[358423]

Kievan Rus was Russia, not Ukraine. Is it not clear by name of this state?

Peoples of Rus called themselves Russians. Ukraine and the Ukrainian nation was formed much later in the 13-15 centuries.

[Darius514]

@358423 Kievan Rus was not Russia as at that time there was no Russian entity or identity. The people of RUS did not call themselves Russian rather Russyn as we were all one people at that time. Also, the RUS language aka the first Slavic language of the region strongly resembles the Ukrainian language for the simple reason that the people that remained in the territory of today's Ukraine kept the language alive while the people that fled Kyiv to Moscow started speaking Russian.

[358423]

You know nothing about Kuban cossacks american should not speak like you do.

Ukraine will be soon part of USA i think

[Ledka1979]

Kiev yoг are speaking about was the capital of Russian Knayzhestvo... not Ukranian.... so, think what you are talking about, when you say that Russia should be a part of Ukrain...

[369bo]

Ledka, Kyiv came roughly 200 years before Moscow. It has never been proven that what is modern day Russia came from Kyiv. That is the history that Russia and the Soviets taught (that Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia all came from the same beginning). Even if they did, Moscow came later than Kyiv and therefore what is Modern day Ukraine came before Russia. Also, even if Moscow and the Muscovites came from Kyiv, why do they claim history that is not theirs? American does not claim British history!

[CHICAGOSERGE]

" It has never been proven that what is modern day Russia came from Kyiv". 369bo. It may not be proven to you, but here are some facts. Moscow founder was prince Yuri Dolgoruki--the son of the last uniter of Kievan Rus Vladimir Monomakh. Russia, Ukraine and Belarus started to emerge around 12th century after Kievan Rus disintegrated and the wars between successor principalities (Vladimir-Suzdal, Kiyiv, Chernihov/Chernihiv and so on) ensued.

[Tiutiunyk]

cortezawwris ... another sukyn syn!

[pivhucul]

ukrainians from Kuban'

[369bo]

In the 1897 census of Kuban, the native language of the majority of people in Kuban was Ukrainian. Briefly during the Russian Civil War the Kuban Kozaks Rada even declared Ukrainian as their official language before being stopped by Russian General Denikin. Of course most people in Kuban identify themselves as Russian today. This is hundreds of years later under Russian rule. I suppose you believe Chechens & Ingush are Russian too? They are different, but don't have their own formal country.

[cortezawwris]

You are very Ignorant and should actually learn what speaking about before pretend to do you. Firstly consider are own language and people.

[369bo]

Cortezawwris, I never said Kuban is more Ukrainian today. However, my previous comments about Kuban's past are correct, regardless if you like the facts or not. If you disagree, tell me why am I wrong instead of just saying some general comment stating I'm wrong. What is incorrect? Please respond intellectually. Conversation is good. Thanks.

[lukashin]

Ukraine is actually beyond the carpathians. Cossacks have nothing to due with you zapadenci in the west. And no, the Cossacks from Kuban were no forced out of Ukraine into Kuban.... They identify themselves as Russians because they are Russians, not Ukrainians. If you want to speak of the Ukrainian language you should also acknowledge the different dialects that split the people apart.

[myronzee]

Sadly the Kuban Kozaks identify with russia because of the policy of russification. Between 1933 and 1937 all the 746 Ukrainian schools in the Kuban were turned into russian files. If you do not believe this check out the kgb files in moscow if they let you!

[clarajanny]

damn it, they are the last thing that unites us and you people are dividing even that....

ODUMAJTESJ!!!!

[timur1lenk]

Religion is not important as we can see there is no much of difference in between folcklor of Kavkaz nations. Ortodox Georgians dance and play music same way as chechens.

[RussianBoxer84]

in old cossack movie. there was a thing. that georgian cossack came to Cuban and they gave him food and told him to stay. i understand that cossacks is a orthodox army based culture.

[timur1lenk]

so that georgian(kavkazian) fucked all russian kuban girls and created kozaks hahah. That is palausibal theory. I could agree on that.

[RussianBoxer84]

no sorry thats what heppened to bosniac..

turks came and had too much fun.

[timur1lenk]

no, you are wrong. Turks had fun with your brothers serbs hahaha. Serbs, just like you Kozaks, are full of turkish blood hahahaha

[timur1lenk]

I will tell you what it is. This is music and dance of the people of kavkaz not russians.

[RussianBoxer84]

u must be fuckin crazy.

dance is russian

music is russian

costume is half kavkazi.

[timur1lenk]

wich half is kavkazi hahha. Even acordians are kavkazi and ritham of the music. Hey man don't try to bullshit me I know that very well. Paliat is russian way in culture. You russians are like serbs, as thay do the same.....PLAGIAT.

[RussianBoxer84]

what an idiot... ohhh too bad serbs didnt come finish with u guys. hahaha

ive met 1 bosniac without teath. i asked what heppened he said serbs came to visit his home.

hahahaha

[timur1lenk]

well now when we have weapon serbs don't come to visit....do you know why.

[PeterHeizer]

Yeah, and thank God, we Slavic nations, like Russians, Polish, and Serbs now know, after hearing Timur, why we have so little creativity, imagination, inventiveness. That is why, all our great writers, musicians, composers, painters, they were all plagiarists. And guess what? We plagiarized all from whom? FROM TURKS! You Turks are the most uninventive nation in the world. Arabs, Persians have left something to admire, everybody except for you.

[PeterHeizer]

On Balkans you left nothing but the desert behind you. You haven't built even a MOSQUE, for God's sake, for anyone to admire, after your rule with the help of the Bosniac convert traitors, who supported your rule.

[CWM2007]

Greeks belong to Slavic or Latin family? Pls tell me, I don't know. thanks.

[nazelenojgrani]

I di nat knew da yuo? Thot is very dificilt qestion. Thnx pls.

[damai82]

so i please one more time to read or go to Univesity and try to study dance culture of USSR republic, and you will see differens.

[RussianBoxer84]

leave this bosniac alone. hatred made him blind. he cant see the difference from the EUROPEAN dances AND ASIAN well obveiously when turks fucked his mother and grandmother for centuries.

[timur1lenk]

Kavkaz is Europe you durak.

[FinnishKnife]

Well, whatever it is, it's gorgeous!!!!!!!!!

[369bo]

I saw their show and have a full concert video and they basically did NO Russian or Georgian stuff. However, I've seen clips on line that definitely show them doing some Russian songs and Georgian dance, as well. They represent Kuban: Ukrainian heritage, modern day Russian geography, and border Georgia. They appear to be doing elements of all 3 not just Ukrainian stuff anymore.

[Aussieuke]

This might be a repeat ,sorry. You are right they are mixing the ethnic dances and cultural background but only because of the way the clip is edited.Also professional dance groups use some theatrical freedom to represent dances that are of mixed and sometimes fuzzy heritage.

[RussianBoxer84]

wtf buddy ru on crack??? what ukrainian???

what georgian ru talking about? loool

PURE RUSSIAN COSSACKS. no ukrainian and no georgian stop spreading bullshit please

[369bo]

RussianBoxer84, no Ukrainian? Wrong. Learn your history. Ukrainian Kozaks were forced out of Ukraine to Kuban. Kuban is in modern day Russia, but Kuban Kozaks heritage is Ukrainian. They perform various stuff. No Georgian? Wrong again. Most of the dance/music in this video by the Ukrainian Kuban Kozaks is definitely Georgian style. I've studied Ukrainian dance with various honored artists of Ukraine & toured with them. I know about Georgian dance/music too (but not as much as Ukrainian).

[RussianBoxer84]

omg.... why ru saying ukrainian ukrainian ukrainian like ukrainians had their own country??? Kubans are Russians, it is a fact. and if ur saying that ukraines forced to leave to kuban, EVERY RUSSIAN came from kiev. so we all came from ukraine. propogandic scum. u go to kuban and say whatever u said gonna get knocked the fuckout.

[369bo]

No space in my last entry to write accurately. Don't want to mislead, in any way. Music starts like fast-pasted version of Russian song Katyusha or it's Ukrainian. Later, it sounds very Georgian. Some arm movements, etc. share Georgian style throughout. Kuban region Ukrainians do that. Ukrainian & Georgian bullet laced top-coats are similar here, too. Certainly, one would not show someone this as an example if teaching a typical Ukrainian dance, for sure.

[RussianBoxer84]

Russiand and ukrainians use to be Solid nation and race. but we russians went to explore east. Cossacks and georgians coppied from 1 each other. Russian cossacks had relatives in Ukrainian cossack regiment. and ukraine and Russia had no borders.

[369bo]

No space to write precisely in my last entry. I don't want to mislead in any way. Music starts like a fast-paced version of the Russian song Katyusha or it's a Ukrainian song. Later, the music sounds very Georgian. Arm movements, etc. throughout the whole dance share Geogian style. Ukrainians only do that in Kuban area. Ukrainian Kozak top-coats w/bullets & Georgian are similar regionally. Certainly, this is not what one would show as a Ukrainian dance if teaching somebody.

[369bo]

Kuban Kozaks were Ukrainian Kozaks forced to settle there (modern-day Russia). Kuban Kozaks are famous for their UKRAINIAN song/dance heritage. Kuban & Georgia border eachother. The clip starts very Ukrainian. When the women enter, the music's drastic change to bongo-like drumming & the dance becomes Georgian style. I've seen their show, but not this dance or them do that. Georgia's action is militant (wildly good); Ukrainian acrobatic dancing is more ballet-esque (gracefully good).

[bnkhcc]

This dance very much resembles some adyghean or kabardin dances.Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks for posting

[silveritalianlocket]

I thought this was a Georgian dance, Acharuli? Is this just Cossacks performing Georgian dance? Or are they somehow related. Any info would be appreciative. :)

[damai82]

it's not Georgian dance,Kuban related this Georgian.

If you could speak Russian i can explain you a lot.

[silveritalianlocket]

I speek Russian. Explain. I still see some Georgian elements in it.