Swift Boat Documentaires! 1 of 5

[believer1965]

lol what a dumb ass kerry was and is but i have seen alot of them in the military

[MikeNelsonMST3K]

Kerry was a self-serving douchebag that no one liked. He still is.

[aflack]

wikipedia IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION!

[hsimpson]

You can tell what kind of an animal Kerry is by just looking at the skunks he ran with in the bogus Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Thank You Swift Boat Veterans!

[plimmin]

underpressure682 - Hey amigo, i dig your concepts, the problem is the war in Iraq has nothing to do with "fredom"... theat's thr tragic lie that's bringing it down!

[aflack]

What do you call three fully democratic elections?

[plimmin]

What ignorant swine. The dogs who made this movie, who took advantage of real veterens to ruin JK should be sent to Iraq, like now!

[aflack]

Real veterans DONT SEEK AN EARLY OUT like John Kerry did!

[underpressure682]

what we are doing in Iraq is simultaneously preserving our freedom and helping our image in the muslim world. the problem is that the media is spreading the bad stuff while hiding the progress we are making. if you look at the death of Al-Zarqawi for an example. that is a tremendous victory in the war on terror but it did not get the attention it deserved.

[aflack]

Another person who GETS IT! You are so right! I missed getting zarquai by four weeks! So depressing that I could of been the one who loaded the bomb that was dropped on zarquai!

[underpressure682]

yeh i completey support bush and what he is doing in iraq. how does anyone expect to have freedom if they dont want to do anything to preserve it. one of my teachers once put this quote on the board and didnt sya anything for the whole class yet everyone knew what he meant. "freedom is not free" how is it that people dont understad that quote more.

[DrSher]

Communist journalists have been the greatest assets of Americas enemies since Gettysburg. Had D-Day found place today, Roosovelt would have been impeached, Churchill met bystone-throwing purple-haired freaks and Hitler been described as a defiant of the US. No wonder the world is upside down. Or, like Kerry would have said in 1945. "The world is not safer without Hitler". But bombing Serbia into pieces from 100000 feet was totally OK.

[DrSher]

Ity's tough to be Bushhater nowadays. They get more and more pissed the more success stories you see and hear of in Iraq. I have not been there, but still hav en't heard any GI back from there hustle anything close to the phony horror stories the hotel-balcony journalists in Baghdad rack up every day. And then you libs are still trying to push Kerrys phonyism upon us.. PLzzzzz, hopefully Hillary will take care of next nomination and at least spare us more embarrassments at that level.

[aflack]

Well I have been to Iraq Twice. What I saw and experienced and what the mainstream media shows are completely different and I am convinced that democrats and the media want us to lose!

As a result my headline on myspace is a modern day twist on an old quote from patton.

"I would rather have a terrorist infront of me than the mainstream media behind me"

www.myspace.com/af_lack

[aflack]

Well I have been there TWICE! Through those two tours I have come up with two great quotes! Ones a modern day twist on an old patton quote and the other one is all my own!

"I would rather have a terrorist infront of me rather the mainstream media behind me!"

"A CNN Reporter with a camera is more dangerous than a Terrorist with an RPG"

SSGT Derek "AFLACK" Gray

[ecin61]

aflack,half of the american people are patriots.the other are not.they want to bring down our way of life. this election will be so very close...we who do love this country have to help by speaking our minds. by calling "it" as "it" is. i hope you continue to voice your opinion.i thank you for your service to us. i`m conciderd too old to serve again,i would stand and fight beside you yonger guys if i could.

[deckm70]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=V_mSnpI5O04

[1DevilDog]

Look Kerry lost (just like the other Gore buffoon), thank God. I'm not defending anything except the future of America. So stop being so gay and dramatic about everything. And dougzilla, you can't hide your leftwing rhetoric, so save all this, "By the way, I am not a liberal," - BS!!!

[dougzilla]

Ah piss off with the trash talk.

I have nothing against the military. It is you guys in military that should be pissed off as is you folks that are getting screwed the worst.

Call me "leftwing" if you want, but don't call me a liberal. The whole "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" thing was bullshit propaganda put out by some black ops guys in the Bush campaign and it worked. The result was that Bush took the election and is now running your country into ruin.

[1DevilDog]

I’m not talking trash, and to say this Swift Boat “propaganda” won the election for Bush

is absurd. And it is even more ridiculous

to assume that Bush “is now running your

country into ruin.” Why would a nation’s

leader do that?

All of these conspiracy theories are what divides a country… and, in the end, destroys its foundation. And that will fall completely on the shoulders of Americans like you.

[1DevilDog]

And as for servicemen/women feeling screwed…well, you “piss off.” We are proud; we see the changes and the smiles that CNN doesn’t show. We see the future of the children. We are not fighting the Iraqis…we are fighting INSURGENTS (and critics). I know so many brave men that have lost limbs and sight and still want to go back to the fight. So trust me, no one feels screwed. And none of us will ever understand selfish Americans bashing ANY president.

[dougzilla]

Actually, the Swift Boat smear campaign hurt Kerry a lot. The election was so close, it was probably the thing that tanked Kerry. There is a good quote from LBJ back in his earlier days about him putting out the word that his political opponent at the time was screwing pigs in the farmyard. When questioned he about it, he said," I know he is not fucking pigs. I just want to hear him say so in the press." ... A.a no win situation.

[dougzilla]

Dude according to Bush, they are not INSURGENTS, they are "terrorists". See, if they were insugents then it would be a civil war not a "war on terrorists". This being the case, the reasons for being over there are getting pretty thin.

I am sorry for being such a pain in the ass; again I mean no disrespect for people that are in the line of fire.

[aflack]

From one servicemen to another! THANK YOU! YOU GET IT! I have been there and I could not support your statement on the biased media any more!

[1DevilDog]

Perhaps you should read our stories as-well-as MSNBC’s…

[1DevilDog]

Typical...Liberals wanting things for free, while model Americans have to work hard for it.

[dougzilla]

What planet are you from? Obviously not this one.

[1DevilDog]

ok dougzilla. What have you ever sacrificed

for your freedom? What have you ever done

that gives you any right to voice your

opinion on anything besides your favorite

episode of 'Family Guy'? Go back to feeling

sorry for everyone while others try to

preserve what's left of America.

[dougzilla]

(part 1)

"Typical...Liberals wanting things for free, while model Americans have to work hard for it."

You sound like Archie Bunker. His character was created to parody the dumber forms of American super patriotism of the day. He was a fictional character while you on the other hand to be the real thing.

What the hell is a "modern American" anyway? Do you guys have a secret handshake or something.

[dougzilla]

Why is it that while you folks pumped the Swiftboat thing against Kerry so hard, you completely ignored your glorious leader's rather spotty military career. At least Kerry went to Viet Nam and put his life on the line, then came home to put everything else on the line opposing the war. Shrub's only brushes with death came when he drove home drunk while he was AWOL somewhere. Shrub and Cheney are total chickenhawks with zero integrity and you dumb bastards ran smear campaigns for them.

[dougzilla]

I hope you are happy now. The miserable little dope that you elected President is doing a fine job. Things are pretty rosy right now in Iraq wouldn't you say? Lots of needless death and for what good end? ..... anything come to mind? Oh, what the hell you seem like war, well you got one. Enjoy it because it is bankrupting the country; one way or another, we will all be paying for it for a long time (and our kids too).

[dougzilla]

By the way, I am not a liberal. I hate bullshit from which ever direction it comes. You want to be a stooge and defend the bullshit Swiftboat smear campaign and whine about freeloading liberals, then I have a couple of choice words for you -- unfortunately they are not suitable for this forum so I will not use them. Oh what the heck, "Impeach Bush!"

[1DevilDog]

You're the one who took offense to the orginal comment.

This video isn't bullshit. It accounts a boy asking and receiveing a medal that others die for.

A disgrace to anyone in uniform. But you would know nothing about that. Instead of talking shit on the internet, how about getting out and doing something for your great nation!?

[aflack]

Once again I HAVE BEEN TO IRAQ TWICE! and the image I saw there with my OWN EYES and the one reported by the media are the difference between black and white!

[brachieboo]

right on try living in boston john kerry got his purple heart with billy bulgers pension from chappie charlie

[1DevilDog]

Oh...and you're a "bravedove" I suppose.

You and your thoughts will do nothing

but increasing destroy the fabric of a

nation brave men help build. 50 years

from now you will see the fruits of

the seeds you helped to soe, and

watch as your children struggle

to remain free. Poor, poor anti-Americans...

[dougzilla]

You get on your high horse and wave the flag. Anyone who disagrees with your views is unpatriotic and anti-American.

You have not responded to anything I have said; you just label me as anti-American and say that I am helping "destroy the fabric of a nation brave men help build". I ask you how is this possible? how could the exercise of free speech lead to this?

[dougzilla]

Here is the lowdown on the Swiftboat campaign. Why not actually do a little research rather that sucking up all the propaganda

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind­ex.php?title=Swift_Boat_Vetera­ns_for_Truth

Swift Boat Veterans for Kerry

http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind­ex.php?title=Swift_Boat_Vetera­ns_for_Kerry

[1DevilDog]

link doesn't work...

[dougzilla]

sorry, this forum mysteriously adds spaces in the links. When you cut and paste them, look for the spaces and nuke them.

[aflack]

Hey DIPSHIT I am in the very same unit that president bush flew F-102's in. There was no need for 102's in vietnam and back then the guard was not used as much as they are today! I am active duty in the guard have been to iraq TWICE! Many of our "weekenders" have done the same! But I guess they arent real military either right?