Wyatt Earp - Gunfight at the O.K. Corral in HD 1080p

[BVBFAN1998]

this may be more historically correct but tombstone has MUCH better acting and mustaches

[jojowopper]

30 shots in 30 seconds and only 3 men died ? not much for aiming back then huh ?

[MaxCovington543]

@jojowopper For what it's worth, I don't think those pistols were as accurate as our weapons today. That mixed with nerves probably explains the lousy shooting.

[kobeno1]

@MaxCovington543 You're right. I think it was more the latter. I don't think it is as easy as people think to stand down a group of guys in a gun fight. I also read that smoke from the gunpowder may have been a factor as well.

[downunderdemocrat]

Life seem much simpler in those days.

[tinoman2]

i like the other doc holiday,the one with val kilemore,he was much better

[johndoe590]

as i watch this wiatt earp - i like both movies. both have a different angle but still neat

[MAnnaconduit1]

insults and threats against him and his family, and doc never let anyone show him up, he wanted them dead, as soon as they said you've been asking for this fight, there was no way the cowboys would disarm,

[MAnnaconduit1]

no matter what started it i always have believed that when the clantons and the Mclaury's saw the Earps and Holiday coming for them, they believed they were coming to kill them, there had just been too much bad blood between them, neither side trusted the others, the earps believed they were threatened and justified, and the cowboys were worried if they handed over their guns they would be butchered by the law men. Morgan and holiday were out for blood, morgan was a hothead when it came to

[Lawman117]

Ooooo Weee! Morgan is fast as f@ck on that draw!

[antitroll890]

this for me is why this version of the fight is better than whats shown in "Tombstone" the build up is fantastic and thus makes the fight more believable where as in "Tombstone" its cheapened and they just run straight into it and its not as interesting to watch

[shetlandwool]

...After viewing the body and hearing such testimony as had been submitted to us, find that the person was Frank McLaury...and that he came to his death in the town of Tombstone in said county, and on the 26th day of October, 1881, from the effects of pistol and gunshot wounds inflicted by Virgil Earp, Morgan Earp, Wyatt Earp and one Holliday, commonly called Doc Holliday. ..............(from the official report. Did they have pistols?)

[shetlandwool]

The guy on 3:30 deserves to be shot on the spot, for interfering with a legal gunfight.

[shetlandwool]

This one is closest to the truth of what actually happened, i guess.

[MrPudderTat]

" oh,I understand Virgil, but do ya think...(tap tap)...they will? - Doc Holiday

[supppperego]

i got there every month going to Douglas

[tenaciousd1888]

Why is everyone saying "this is more accurate"? No one watches a film to get educated in history. Tombstone is a far superior film. This scene for instance, in Tombstone it was building in intensity, you knew something big was coming which forced you to the edge of your seat. The musical score was great. Kilmer and Russell's performances were sublime and untouchable. Wyatt Earp seems like a cheap TV movie.

[sec0ndevolution]

@tenaciousd1888 Also, the actors were so much more distinctive in Tombstone. Here they all look the same.

[TheMultiGunMan]

★★★★★

[71superbee3]

Having been to the OK Corral myself, it's quite astonishing how a single gunfight became so epic in proportion.

[MrAzrancher]

@71superbee3 I live here near Tombstone and grew up with its history, I would say its not so much the gunfight itself because there were many other more dramatic battles, but the overall history and politics that this fight in particular caused. But this fight was months in brewing and the aftermath took years to resolve with newspapers, books, state govenors all becoming involved. It was the classic soap opera type scandel that keeps people intrigued.

[Kindhamster1138]

does anyone know the name of the cowboy who rushes wyatt and tells him to stop at 3:31?

[jliller]

@Kindhamster1138 Should be Ike Clanton, the lone survivor of the 4 Clantons/McLaurys. His running up to Wyatt who throws him aside and tells him to fight or get lost is more accurately depicted in Tombstone, but then it also depicts him going into Fly's photography studio and shooting out from the windows which I don't think happened at all.

[Dunwyche]

Actually, I like them both. This one grows on ya. Thanke for the post.

D~

[FIST2k8]

Two great movies but the actual gunfight was too Hollywood in this movie. In Tombstone the way Kilmer went guns blazing towards the window but with his head down, scared he might get made that scene a classic IMO.

[DocGrim1]

130 years ago today!



[MrCavalier14]

not being a prick here but if i'm not mistaken(i might be) weren't the double barrel scatter guns issued to Wells Fargo riders which is the same one Doc used at the gun fight 10 gauge?

[MrAzrancher]

@MrCavalier14 Yes Sir, the ten gauge was the most popular calibre of the day. Stage guards would cut the barrels down to move it w/o smacking the driver. Some law officers like to keep them for security and crowd control. That and the average person was not accurate with a handgun past 10-15 ft. Rifles & coach guns were the ticket in a fight. Hollywood has almost removed that and made the pistol the primary weapon of choice.

[MAnnaconduit1]

@MrCavalier14 virgil picked the scatter-gun from the wells fargo office and then handed it to doc for his cane, becasue docs coat could hide the shotgun better and virgil could have easier access to his pistol.

[Mr508films]

Wyatt Earp was more accurate on so many levels.

Costner's portrayal of Wyatt for starters, from most accounts, he was not the reluctant saintly hero. The fight did not occur at the actual Corral, but much like "Wyatt Earp" showed in an empty lot between two buildings, one being Fly's Photo gallery. Ike never had a gun during the fight , it had been confiscated

[EaStCoAsTCrOoKlYn]

i think Clanton was a wuss honestly if he acted the way he did in the Tombstone movie he must have been a wimp in real life

[farodealer]

@Coleburg the official Coroners Inquest verdict (Document 48) says 'William Clanton, Frank and Thomas McLaury, came to their deaths in the town of Tombstone on October 26, 1881, from the effects of pistol and gunshot wounds inflicted by Virgil Earp, Morgan Earp, Wyatt Earp and one- Holliday, commonly called "Doc" Holliday'. In none of the official papers of the two hearings does anyone say who fired or killed who. All that is certain is that Doc had the scattergun so killed Tom.

[generaltodd2]

Compared to Tombstone, this movie sucks.

[TAG605]

@jsbeard18 Agreed I liked better that Doc Holliday but this movie better

[jsbeard18]

tombstones doc holliday (played by val kilmer) is the best piece of acting i have ever seen, quite possibly.

[generaltodd2]

 Tombstone, is far more historically accurate than Wyatt Earp.

[antitroll890]

@generaltodd2 uh no it really isnt

[generaltodd2]

@antitroll890 Uh, yeah, it really is. 

[antitroll890]

@generaltodd2 you do know the scene showing the gunfight where Doc fires at Clanton in the building that was completely made up in "Tombstone" and didnt happen in the real fight at all

[crassyfrake]

"Well you know what they say, Frank.....*puts sunglasses on* speed kills" YEAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

[7Hawke]

@crassyfrake If you're comment was directed at me, I'll let you keep it. I've never done speed, nor any drug for that matter, which is probably saying more for yourself. I've got a longtime interest in this, have all available material, my own personal collection, been to the locations and met the families. No drugs. Just a long held fascination on the subject.

[crassyfrake]

@crassyfrake it was a joke because Frank McLaury was played by the same guy who played Frank on CSI Miami....no offense at all was implied

[7Hawke]

@crassyfrake I see. Thank you for clarifying. Rex Linn isn't a bad actor. I liked him in Cliffhanger.

[TAG605]

@7Hawke Very interesting comments, I can only image how life was like in the old west. Thanks.

[Coleburg]

@TAG605 I based the credit for the shots based upon the most widely accepted belief of the shots from reading a lot of books on the subject. There was unfortunately a lot of really poor reporting of the incident that gave rise to all the different claims. The people I identified seem to be the most likely from everything I have read.

[7Hawke]

@TAG605 My pleasure. This particular version of the battle, though not completely historical, is my favorite because it is much more realistic and believable than opposed to Kurt Russell's Tombstone which had Doc Holliday firing 3 shots from a shotgun and 50 shots from two six-shooters.

[7Hawke]

So as you can see, actual unbiased testimony paints a different picture than what Wyatt or legend says. Accoring to Wyatt and legend, Wyatt Earp fired first hitting Frank McLaury. Morgan killed both Billy Clanton and Frank McLaury. Wyatt Earp bravely told Ike Clanton, "This fight's commenced. Shoot or get out." Yet, according to eyewitnesses, reality is different. Doc Holliday started the fight. Wyatt Earp and Virgil Earp killed Clanton. Doc Holliday may have killed both McLaurys.

[Coleburg]

@7Hawke If you can call any of the testimony unbiased.

[7Hawke]

@Coleburg Sure. There were plenty of unbiased witnesses to the battle, that were neither friendly to the Earps or Clantons, nor purchased beef from the Clantons, or ran a saloon where the Earps hung their hats. And had no political or financial gains/loss at stake. My recommendations would be the laundryman BH Fellehy, Martha King, Addie Borland, Thomas Keefe and Judge Lucas.

[7Hawke]

Both brother's fired at Clanton, but who inflicted what wounds, isn't certain. Frank McLaury tries to retreat across the street. Doc Holliday and Morgan Earp follow. Someone shoots from within Fly's, hitting Morgan Earp across the back. Wyatt Earp claimed to have returned fire. Frank McLaury realized he was being followed, turned and said to Doc, "I've got you this time." Holliday replied, "You're a good one if you have." Doc and Morgan both fired and a bullet hit McLaury under the right ear.

[7Hawke]

While Wyatt wrestled with Ike, Doc Holliday and Morgan Earp fired at the McLaury's who took shelter behind Frank McLaury's horse. Tom McLaury tried pull the rifle from the saddle boot. Frank McLaury returned fire, hitting Holliday in the hip. The horse pulled away from McLaury, likely from a shot, and Holliday swung up the coach gun, hitting Tom McLaury who left standing in the open. Billy Clanton traded shots with Virgil and Wyatt, putting a bullet in Virgil's leg.

[7Hawke]

In all likelyhood, according to eyewitness testimony, and not myth, the fight started when Doc Holliday pulled his pistol and shot Frank McLaury through the belly. At the same time, Wyatt Earp shot Billy Clanton.(Holliday started the battle because those men were standing outside of his home.) Ike Clanton attempted to wrestle the gun from Wyatt, no doubt intending to kill him with it in response to Earp shooting his brother. Wyatt's gun went off, missing Ike, who took the opportunity to leave.

[bobbydloya]

This one more accurate historically but Sam Elliott's portrayl of Virgil Earp in "Tombstone" probably more accurate character portrayal. Virigl was a strong personality and respected law man in his own right.

[emm28bee]

"Wyatt Earp" seemed to be more historically accurate. Costner looked more like the real Wyatt. Loved the music for this movie.

[Coleburg]

It is more historically accurate than Tombstone, but this is how the coroner's report listed the wounds after careful exam:

Frank McLaury was shot in the abdomen by Wyatt and shot at the base of the skull under his right ear and killed by Morgan.

Tom McLaury received a double barreled shotgun blast to the right upper chest from Doc that killed him.

Billy Clanton was shot in the right wrist and right chest into the lung (the fatal shot) by Morgan and the right arm and left abdomen by Virgil.

[TAG605]

@Coleburg Thanks

[generaltodd2]

@Coleburg Tombstone is more accurate in the way things were handled by the Earps and Doc. For example the horse wasnt shot, Doc had fired the shotgun, which scared the horse.

[7Hawke]

@Coleburg Coroner Matthews described the wounds, yes, but he did not attribute any to one specific gunman. He couldn't do that. The belief that Wyatt Earp shot Frank McLaury in the belly, comes from Wyatt Earp. Yet, there exists evidence that puts Doc Holliday as the shooter, which in turn started the battle. As for Morgan killing McLaury, again, we only have the word of Wyatt Earp. Doc Holliday was also shooting at McLaury when he died, and was much closer.

[7Hawke]

@Coleburg Billy Clanton was shot 3 times as you've detailed. Yet who shot him is mainly in the air. Virgil Earp stated that he had shot at Clanton. One witness claimed to see Doc Holliday shooting at him at one point in the battle. Yet, Wyatt Earp attributed the wounds to his brother Morgan. His wounds, in relation to his location in the battle suggest that someone standing opposite of him, rather than off to his side, inflicted his wounds. (Wyatt, Virgil)

[7Hawke]

@Coleburg Tom McLaury was shot in the right side under his arm. The Cororner described the wound as a buckshot wound, with 12 holes. This wasn't a double blast. No one in their right mind fires both barrels of a Wells Fargo scattergun simultaneously in a gun battle. Doc Holliday was under the weather that day, and it seems illogical that a sickly man weighing 160 pounds would try something like this. The fact that Tom McLaury managed to keep on his feet and run away suggests one barrel as well.

[7Hawke]

@Coleburg 12 buckshot pellets were very common for a standard charge used for 12 gauges at that time. Which further points to one barrel fired. Kate Elder later mentioned that Doc's shotgun misfired and he tossed it aside to draw his pistol. There is also the long held belief that Tom McLaury was armed and shot Morgan Earp in the back during the battle. Yet, no weapon was found upon him after the battle. And his pistol remained in a saloon where he had deposited it the day before.

[jb2680]

@Coleburg

Morgan did some damn good shooting

[strikerssrx]

boring, nothing like tombstone!!



[Mandar28887]

this was devoid of all emotions which is why I probably hated it besides Tombstone concentrated on a specific period of Earps life so they could get better characterization rather than Wyatt Earp which goes from childhood to adulthood and thus had several small characters

[disihing]

Tombstone is fun but this is historical

[TheDocGoblin]

@disihing both are amazing films

[Aepotheosis]

It's an O.K. Corral

not great

but it's pretty alright I guess

[BMFRaw]

@Aepotheosis LOL

[mco119]

Regardless of anything else, this scene in "Wyatt Earp" is SO much better than its counterpart in "Tombstone." Much more dramatic (the O.K Corral shootout in "Tombstone" is total B-level movie cheesiness), and a whole lot more historically accurate. It's up in the air as to which of the two films is a better movie, but "Wyatt Earp" certainly owns this part..

[zacuh17]

This is a thousand t imes better than the crappy Tombstone disaster film. Truly that is a horrendous western.

[AFinleyProductions]

@zacuh17 what the hell are you talking about Tombstone is amazing

[apocolypticful]

@AFinleyProductions If you watched all 3 hours of this movie, you would see that it is better. This movie is amazing.

[AFinleyProductions]

@apocolypticful i have i liked it ok but i Love Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell too much 

[apocolypticful]

@AFinleyProductions I pay attention to the details and quality of the movie :D I think the actors did fine.

[totalrecall49]

dennis quaid looks really lunger ......great artist

[TAG605]

"Hell I've heard enough talk already... "

[downunderdemocrat]

@TAG605 Damn what didn't they know about diplomacy in the West?

[wence5]

"You son's ah bitches been lookin' for ah fight, now you can have it." CLASSIC!

[wence5]

"You son's ah bitches been lookin' for ah fight, now you can have it." CLASSIC!

[PeterBluth]

I loved this movie purely for it's scope, granduer, and the performance of Dennis Quaid. Though I've never seen Tombstone, would like too though.

Though, to be honest, I think, in terms of timing, the gunfight is the most realistic one filmed.

[TAG605]

Yeah me too, I like 'em both though

[RevolverRingo]

I more of a Tombstone person, this film was good though.

[TAG605]

Although I like better "Tombstone" this version is just as good.