This guy just doesn't know anything of what a thread is... "Giving more thread to an application" has no sense and even if you can make an application that subdivides the workload in a variable number of thread, once thread number is much greater than cpu number (for example 10 threads on 4 CPU) you don't have no speed increase and you now have to wait for thread context-change and waste a lot of memory for idle thread descriptors...
@JassonArauz Snow Leopard isn't cheap! You can't only see the price Apple charges for the OS itself, you must also regard the over-the-top prices you have to pay for the slow hardware to run the OS on. If you compare the price of a similar PC computer to the price of a mac, you'll see that the mac costs way more. Apple uses a part of this high price for the development of OSX which wouldn't be able to survive economically on its own. E.g.Windows must pay its development solely through its price.
I used to love Windows more than anything, talking shit about all other OS's, then I got my own mac, I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it, but I ended up with a Linux computer in the end, why? Because it fit my needs, it's quick, costumizable, use the same keyboard sets as PC, but I am not saying neighter of these are the one you should get, you might end up with Solaris for all I know.
@leder678 Ha ha, nice. In my opinion, I much prefer Linux over either Windows or Mac. But, a number of my games won't run on Linux, so I am on a Windows for the time being.
Well apple to this day still bashes Microsoft. and Microsoft bashes apple. but the truth is. Microsoft still writes software for the Mac. not much. but some yes. and if it wasn't for apple in the beginning Microsoft would never have existed as the company it is now. neither company would be what they are without the other. so wake up and just be glad you live in an age of technological history. ( i am a LInux user and a Mac user ) i only windows when i need a good laugh. :-)
Microsoft Office!? BULLSHIFT, version freaking ONE of iWork officially KILLED MS Office. Not to mention that Office costs $200, while I can get OSX, iLife, and iWork (the first two come FREE with every Mac) for $70 flat.
That's right, iWork: MS Office's superior.
OSX SL: Windows 7's superior.
iLife: Something that cannot be compared to anything PC, because there is nothing even AT ALL like this.
Snow Leopard is nothing more than an SP1 update for Leopard, yet they have the nerve to charge $29! lol.. SL is nothing but eyecandy icon OS... if you dare to fuck with the insides than you will get fucked (crashed or panics). Windows always has been fun to fuck with the inside of the OS to pimp and optimized the shit out of it! Power and technological wise comes out of doing this. Apple PC's are for the lazy, no common technology, boring users that mostly want a apple pc to surf the internet!
Now its time to install Windows 7 "the most powerful OS on the Planet!" in 64bit baby and pimp the shit out of it! Free software here I come! So, Snow Leopard/Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits in ONE PC = Priceless!
I was already really excited about soon getting a mac but after watching these presentation I am a billion times more excited! There are so many usful features I didn't even know existed!
@TheRetroFanatic You probably didn't know because you're the type that discovers things through marketing or great exposure from somewhere such as Apple. They are Godlike when it comes to marketing. Hell they probably could even sell a brick to very intelligent people. Alot of OSXs features have existed with other OS in the past. Just Apple is very good at bringing it to the people.
It's really sad that Apple passes this stuff off as something new and revolutionary when about 85% of everything they just shown was being done in Linux/GNU & GNOME/KDE desktop environments for some time now.
Regardless of anything else, I laughed when that "1" danced away from the price. A slash would have sufficed, but the animation was charmingly grandiose.
@smosh007 Not to be a downer to your trolling but Windows can get a virus from pop ups now. Some of them even root themselves through adblock and can display. The only way to protect yourself is to throw up several security apps.
One thing, they should have set up the screen the other way, so his back isn't towards the audience when he is using the computer, doesn't look good, and shows lack of presentation skills.
I'm soooo in love with Apple Computers x3 I have been doing video editing for 2 years now and all I know is problems with codecs,format etc.,with the instability of windows (whatever version),and when I used a mac from a friend for the first time,I thought "I wanna have a mac" XD and now I'm saving money for a 27 inch I mac =D
btw: macs are PRICY but not OVERpriced,you get what you pay for (AMAZING OS,fantastic built quality,USEFUL and really good software (I life etc.) and gorgeous DESIGN!
now here is my story. i am a full life Pc user. since i started using a computer(that it was a Pc) all i have know ins pain, virus, and a lots and lots of frustration. many times my school work was late because my computer had a virus or it didint turn on :( I always say that apple and all their computers were shit and that microsoft was way better. thats until i used a mac. When i used it, my life change. Now i am a mac user and i dont regret. apple is Way better than microsoft and thats true.
I can't wait to be a Mac user; almost every day I've been reading about Snow Leopard and going to the apple website; and yes, I hear the same thing over and over from all my friends who have a Mac: You will never go back to Windows, EVER!
I am a Microsoft guy have been for around 22 years. I have never been interested in Apple. Apple has been a niche market and really for those who are non technologists. After 22 years I am finally convinced that Apple is light years ahead of Microsoft in terms of ease of use, innovation and making a PC an exciting, stress free powerful tool. Microsoft made PCs affordable to the masses so without them we would not be where we are today but going forward it will Apple at the steering wheel!
no worries :-) I am very impressed with what Apple has done in the last several years but Snow Leopard and the enhancements are truly head and shoulders above Windows.
@siliconweb Affordable?Microsoft is 3x more Expensive!!! Look at office 2007 professional $499.95 | $329.95.When you can get a OpenOffice For Free! Microsoft Is a Rip off.$219.99 For Windows 7 Ultimate,$169 for Snow Leopard box set
@TheSniperofDeath windows 7 ultimate oem is 189 and not to mention each upgrade of osx except for snow leopard was 129, plus every few versions of osx apple would stop supporting your hardware, so if you wanted the latest version youd have to buy a new mac, thats a rip off
@TheSniperofDeath If you focus on total cost of ownership PC systems are far more affordable and why it has majority market share. Nevertheless Microsoft software is a rip off given how buggy it is and I personally wouldn't buy MS Office for those two reasons. You have to admit though that Apple PCs cost way more BUT the value is there. Apple is a "status" symbol also which is why it can command a higher price for its PCs and people are happy to pay the higher price. Keep Apple priced higher!
@siliconweb Dude you must be kidding. No OS can be compared to Windows 7 in terms of 'ease of use'. What's so 'innovative' in Mac OS? The application bar in the top of the screen? LOL. That was usable ten years ago, not now, with 30" LCDs. Apple finally has at least average hardware (because it switched to PC hardware=)) but the OSX has the worst UI ever; even opensource Linux beats it without a doubt ..
@Mehedict How old are you? :) do some google search and you'll see that M$ and APPL it's copying each other... one difference is apple it's doing in the right way... regarding UI... Man... history... all the beauty that you have on your ubuntulinuxwhateverkernel now.. it's come from Apple and even OS2Warp... Please... do yourself a favor... go study OS... please... it's like to say that Linux it's better than UNIX... or the Unix it's old... i am so sick of "teen hackers" uhh i am using Gentoo :D
@siliconweb I totally agree with you; I've been a diehard PC user for over a decade now but last weekend I finally put my ignorance aside and bought a 13" MacBook Pro.
In my opinion even Mac OS X Tiger is way like light years better than Vista or Windows 7 the only Microsoft OS that was an alright OS was XP but other than that Leopard and Snow Leopard are just awesome and fuck anybody who hates on APPLE
yea for sure, but some people are not talking about the actual computer, many of the people prefer the mac OS over the windows OS. But for $1000 i dont think you could build a comp to destory an imac quadcore i7 or a mac pro 8core.
it strongly depends on your personal choice. For some people just love macs and some people love PCs. And some people are not financially stable but they still need a computer to complete their work. They want to use a cheap computer to finish their work. Microsoft windows is full of viruses, errors and crashes but snow leopard has its flaws too, so in the end, it is all about personal choice. There isnt a need to place unjustified stereotypes on people with seemingly fixed characteristics.
"In only two weeks since the official commercial launch of Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows 7 has managed to surpass Apple's Snow Leopard market share. Snow Leopard has been on the market for three months while Windows 7 has only been on the market for two weeks.
Microsoft still stands dominant in the market share, holding strong at 92.52% of all computers in October, compared to Mac OS X with 5.27%, Linux with 0.96% and 1.25% with other operating systems."
How is this Mac Vs. PC. this just seems like Mac. I have watch all three and the only time PC is mentioned is when the Mac man is making a joke about, God forbid, having to defrag your HD.
If macs would be as cheap as pcs everyone would buy them.. But than Apple would become like Windows and it would get crappy as hell. See, Windows is only so bad because they have much more users. And Apple has to be so good because else EVERYONE would buy Windows
Not true. There is still only ONE manufacturer of Macs. What plagues Windows is the staggering number of PC variants it has to run on. How many companies make PC processors, motherboards, video cards? Hundreds? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Another issue is that Apple has NEVER been shy about 'aging' off old machines. Snow leopard will NOT run on the older PPCs, it ONLY works on intel based macs. My old G4 will not run OSX 10.6.
I'm a pc user from the year 1995, and i must to say that until 2007 that i build my own pc it was a hell. Buying pc's with low performance , what a hell, the worst operating systems of microsoft were windows me ,windows 2000 and windows vista 64bit, that was the top of the crap.
Its fucking awesome that Snow Leopard is only $29. So going to buy when I get the money. Little disappointed that the Jew Bear didn't make a showing at the end.
OMG, I have been PC forever. After 28 yrs of living I just got an iMac. ...... I wish I would have had this from the beginning. I still cant believe how many people still use the PC.
If a Mac was as cheap as a "PC" they would rule the world, we would ALL use Mac =3 and everybody would be happy with their macs.. at least i would be xd
Well that's an system upgrade price, im talking about the whole macbook price ^^ also it's even CHEAPER for recently bought macbooks, i heard you can get the upgrade for only 10$ :O
This looks great. But I wish they would redesign the window appearance. The gray is kinda ugly. Windows 7 has a beautiful glass interface. I also like how Windows 7 has little animations when you open a window. It kinda, like, zooms into the window -- Same when you close. It's just eye candy, but it looks nice.
Really? I know how someone might think that the brushed alluminium look is a bit bland (have to say I'm a bit bored with Aqua on the whole, lost its wow effect for me), but to use on a day to day basis, all the transparencies in Vista and 7 just become distracting and annoying once you realise just how inconsistent it all is. I have 7 installed via boot camp and fusion, and I either keep Aero very dark (nearly opaque) or turn it off entirely. It doesnt help the end user at all in the end.
Quicklook Microsoft Office files? AWESOME! Amazing how Apple offers this but *MICROSOFT* Windows doesn't preview or open *MICROSOFT* Office files.
What's all this about Windows ME? The system had less than an 8th of the life time that 2K had (which support ends in 2010, July 13, testament to badass-ness MS can do if they put their minds to it.)
i already saw on forums all the people who bought last year's model bitching about not being able to use 100% of Snow Leopard's features.
watch, emeek is going to defend this, telling you that you don't need OpenCL in your iMac anyway and that it's a good move to abandon people with last year's model so that everyone can "progress into future". thats how most Mac fanboys are defending this now on forums i found.
Nothing to do with Apple. The GPU doesn't have the correct hardware to make it work. I'd also love a specific link to where any employee at Apple said "go buy a new one!".
it's apple's fault for using shit GPU's all this tme. they are the company who didnt want to abandon Combodrive on Mac mini until 2009!
yes. it has nothing to do with Apple. its not like they chose which GPU's to put inside, right? oh well. im not complaining. i just feel sorry for poor bastards who now feel like they were screwed over with their 1 year old systems. sure their iMacs will still work.. but not with 100% of features.
Hilarious, trying their best to incorporate Microsoft into their OS, dropping the price down of their OS for Leopard users only with Intel (forcing PPC owners to spend 1k for a new Mac just to use it), finally going 64bit, Microsoft has been there for a while, while other OSes have been there for years.
Funny how they did not even mention Opera web browser. Its obviously superior to IE8, Chrome, FF and Safari. I do believe most of Safari's features come from Opera.
Regarding this Dock discussion, you guys are seriously retards. Or wintards to be specific.
BTW now nobody can argue that Macs are expensive. $1199 for the 13" Macbook Pro. You can't find a single Windows PC on the market with that build quality for that price.
But you also have to give the Mac credit. It comes with great software like iLife. The battery usually lasts up to 3x longer, and the MacBook is on average a pound less. The chip is faster and the screen resolution is usually better.
You could get a stripped down PC for $700, but to get it performing to Mac's capabilities out of the box, it's going to be a lot more expensive.
I agree completely, this is where all the comparisons break down. In terms of notebooks, there simply isnt a combination of hardware and design alone (ignoring software here) that matches Apple's new Macbook Pro's in terms of Build quality and reliability. Factor in advantages with OS X and the price becomes easily worth it, there simply is no comparison. The same holds true and is even accentuated when comparing the Mac Pro with other Desktops and rigs (because its a workstation, not a desktop)
alt tab views a boring 2d icon of the apps, which is quick and easy, but you need to flick over the icon to see what it contains. - DickKnowsBest
Ok in Win 7 RC when you alt+tab and highlight the program the application is highlighted (shown) and all other opened windows go transparent. You can either use a mouse or scroll wheel with alt+tab to pick the icon. Win 7 may add a type of work spaces to it, after all they have it first before OSX did with PowerToys in WinXP.
I'm expecting a rub in my face about the price of OSX Snow Leopard from Eric. I don't doubt he will bring it up, so I'm prepared.
I'm like, that's good that it's being released before Win 7, gives them time to fix bugs and people to get an overall opinion about it before Win 7 steals it's thunder.
Ill tell you one time I am a pc fan boy, but I must say i like how much snow leopard cost. 29$ is just amazing I definitly give apple props on that 5 starts. Windows looks like its going to be around 65$ for students( take the survey). So 29$ already beats hands down.
I hate most PC OEM's except for Asus and Lenovo, well Falcon Northwest would probably trump them both. Anyway, Dell can suck it, I've dealt with them to often. Their hardware is crap and their tech support blows. I just do custom built and my headache's are far less. I have a custom computer thats over 5 years old and another one even older, not one hardware problem from it.
My feeling is that they lowered the price so drastically in order for people to get people to totally switch to 64 bit. However, how is this going to work, is it only for leopard users or will people using Tiger and earlier be SOL paying full price. Can you do a fresh install with the SL upgrade without needing to install Leopard first?
I doubt there will be any machine checking or activation. Apple have shown that it trusts its users by not including serials, activation etc. Did you know that OS X Single user and multipack are identical other than the packaging, Apple just trusts you to buy the correct version.
Microsoft can not give their software out for free. its not a matter of trust, Microsoft loses tons of money from pirates. apple trusts its customers because they already took your damn wallet.
Well damn finally they get live previews and able to preview it within a folder without have to launch another application. Thanks for using that idea Apple, even though Windows did it first.
I don't recall you being able to cycle through documents and watch films within Windows Explorer. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.
Besides we already had this with Leopard. Just hit the spacebar and it launches the document or movie in a Finder without launching the app. It's just now it also does it on the actual icon.
yea, what about Windows 7? We've got it installed in RC version at my work and I can say its ok, but Snow Leopard blows it away. Sorry, Ive got a Mac at home..Ive seen, Ive heard, Ive used, Ive experienced, I like. I will run Windows in VMWare but never another windows PC. Once you have used Leopard you seriously will wonder what the hell you have been doing for the last god knows how many years. Im not being biased...its a fact.
and all of those ideas, needs money. that's why is a bit expensive to get any apple products
XTdarkgainTX 2 months ago
This guy just doesn't know anything of what a thread is... "Giving more thread to an application" has no sense and even if you can make an application that subdivides the workload in a variable number of thread, once thread number is much greater than cpu number (for example 10 threads on 4 CPU) you don't have no speed increase and you now have to wait for thread context-change and waste a lot of memory for idle thread descriptors...
DarioTheRadioStar 5 months ago
@JassonArauz $29 is the upgrade price $129 is full price.
thelifeaquatica 7 months ago
Even though snow leopard supports exchange the client apps are absolute shit and don't support half the features that Microsoft provide.
TheTrafficker85 8 months ago
@JassonArauz Snow Leopard isn't cheap! You can't only see the price Apple charges for the OS itself, you must also regard the over-the-top prices you have to pay for the slow hardware to run the OS on. If you compare the price of a similar PC computer to the price of a mac, you'll see that the mac costs way more. Apple uses a part of this high price for the development of OSX which wouldn't be able to survive economically on its own. E.g.Windows must pay its development solely through its price.
bikingtrumpet 11 months ago
I used to love Windows more than anything, talking shit about all other OS's, then I got my own mac, I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it, but I ended up with a Linux computer in the end, why? Because it fit my needs, it's quick, costumizable, use the same keyboard sets as PC, but I am not saying neighter of these are the one you should get, you might end up with Solaris for all I know.
Choose with your mind, not with the seller.
leder678 1 year ago
@leder678 Ha ha, nice. In my opinion, I much prefer Linux over either Windows or Mac. But, a number of my games won't run on Linux, so I am on a Windows for the time being.
Zodiark1593 1 year ago
Well apple to this day still bashes Microsoft. and Microsoft bashes apple. but the truth is. Microsoft still writes software for the Mac. not much. but some yes. and if it wasn't for apple in the beginning Microsoft would never have existed as the company it is now. neither company would be what they are without the other. so wake up and just be glad you live in an age of technological history. ( i am a LInux user and a Mac user ) i only windows when i need a good laugh. :-)
MrGizmo757 1 year ago 2
I'm fed up with all this PC vs Mac (vs Linux) shit!
All of the OS's are now at such high level, that you are the one to deside which you like the better, not others.
leder678 1 year ago 5
@leder678 Well said. Especially since most disagreements are manifestations of aesthetic UI preferences. :P
Glaither 1 year ago
@leder678 thats the problem with mac users....they cant make their own decisions
tf88888888 1 year ago 3
All the top of manufactures of SHIT are in @ 2:07
joemuthafuckinschmoe 1 year ago
@joemuthafuckinschmoe lol
Vodje01 1 year ago
Microsoft Office!? BULLSHIFT, version freaking ONE of iWork officially KILLED MS Office. Not to mention that Office costs $200, while I can get OSX, iLife, and iWork (the first two come FREE with every Mac) for $70 flat.
That's right, iWork: MS Office's superior.
OSX SL: Windows 7's superior.
iLife: Something that cannot be compared to anything PC, because there is nothing even AT ALL like this.
robloxianstuntdude 1 year ago
omg. not an accent!!! NOOO
appleforever100 1 year ago
Snow Leopard is nothing more than an SP1 update for Leopard, yet they have the nerve to charge $29! lol.. SL is nothing but eyecandy icon OS... if you dare to fuck with the insides than you will get fucked (crashed or panics). Windows always has been fun to fuck with the inside of the OS to pimp and optimized the shit out of it! Power and technological wise comes out of doing this. Apple PC's are for the lazy, no common technology, boring users that mostly want a apple pc to surf the internet!
LALOMAN18 1 year ago
And yes, i wrote all these on my PC Snow Leopard full retail version... if you don't use TimeMachine and something goes wrong, your fucked!
LALOMAN18 1 year ago
Now its time to install Windows 7 "the most powerful OS on the Planet!" in 64bit baby and pimp the shit out of it! Free software here I come! So, Snow Leopard/Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits in ONE PC = Priceless!
LALOMAN18 1 year ago 2
I was already really excited about soon getting a mac but after watching these presentation I am a billion times more excited! There are so many usful features I didn't even know existed!
TheRetroFanatic 1 year ago
@TheRetroFanatic You probably didn't know because you're the type that discovers things through marketing or great exposure from somewhere such as Apple. They are Godlike when it comes to marketing. Hell they probably could even sell a brick to very intelligent people. Alot of OSXs features have existed with other OS in the past. Just Apple is very good at bringing it to the people.
xnoodsx 1 year ago
I'm writing this from Chrome OS, not perfect yet, but way faster than snow leopard...
koenstr 1 year ago
It's really sad that Apple passes this stuff off as something new and revolutionary when about 85% of everything they just shown was being done in Linux/GNU & GNOME/KDE desktop environments for some time now.
iYiavriik 1 year ago
Regardless of anything else, I laughed when that "1" danced away from the price. A slash would have sufficed, but the animation was charmingly grandiose.
EBKemanon 1 year ago
I am sold!!!
Thank you soo much!!!
donnywinn 1 year ago
mac mail is bad i hate it so is ichat barely anyone uses it though everything else is ok
GamerzUtube 1 year ago
"Windows is full of viruses"
learn to not click on everything "porn4free.exe" files -.-'
smosh007 1 year ago 2
@smosh007 Hey check Out my internet explorer.exe new made by me xDDD
this is with virus xDDD
iron888888 1 year ago
@smosh007 Not to be a downer to your trolling but Windows can get a virus from pop ups now. Some of them even root themselves through adblock and can display. The only way to protect yourself is to throw up several security apps.
ggnome213 1 year ago
woah... this is boring.... @kiroo54 I feel sorry for you cuz you have a mac.... awe...
sourjerer 1 year ago
I bet half of them shit themselves with that amazingly low price.
CJCA915 1 year ago
One thing, they should have set up the screen the other way, so his back isn't towards the audience when he is using the computer, doesn't look good, and shows lack of presentation skills.
CJCA915 1 year ago
I actually had to do a little more than email and password setting up my mail, I had to manually put in the servers, etc.
CJCA915 1 year ago
and wtf why you use so many microsoft software ?
and why bootcamp isn't enough the so called snow leopard?still mac os can reach windows that's all nothing more to say
asstegos21 1 year ago
lol i get 1.5 Teraflops with Sapphire 4870
and i paid 140eu
asstegos21 1 year ago
what is the name of the guy that is presinting this
7halos1 1 year ago
MAC.... is a simple way to say (AWESOME). I love Apple and All their Products!!
Deutschlander15187 1 year ago
I'm soooo in love with Apple Computers x3 I have been doing video editing for 2 years now and all I know is problems with codecs,format etc.,with the instability of windows (whatever version),and when I used a mac from a friend for the first time,I thought "I wanna have a mac" XD and now I'm saving money for a 27 inch I mac =D
btw: macs are PRICY but not OVERpriced,you get what you pay for (AMAZING OS,fantastic built quality,USEFUL and really good software (I life etc.) and gorgeous DESIGN!
NiceCommentsPlease 1 year ago
Hehe i love his accent
chobotnorgolbo 1 year ago
I Switched To Snow Leopard And It Is So Freaking Awesome!!!!!!!
canadianhardyfan 1 year ago
now here is my story. i am a full life Pc user. since i started using a computer(that it was a Pc) all i have know ins pain, virus, and a lots and lots of frustration. many times my school work was late because my computer had a virus or it didint turn on :( I always say that apple and all their computers were shit and that microsoft was way better. thats until i used a mac. When i used it, my life change. Now i am a mac user and i dont regret. apple is Way better than microsoft and thats true.
kokaPRinter 2 years ago 5
I can't wait to be a Mac user; almost every day I've been reading about Snow Leopard and going to the apple website; and yes, I hear the same thing over and over from all my friends who have a Mac: You will never go back to Windows, EVER!
soberdrunk78 2 years ago 8
me too but my mom won't buy me a mac >:-(
RD199912345 2 years ago
@soberdrunk78 i know im getting my mac mini in 6-7 months (or when 2012 model comes out)
DubuqueRS 1 month ago
i would like to see apple play blue ray video they cant lol there is not blue ray software for it or drive.
ytkuser 1 year ago 2
M A C
thisismyemail15 2 years ago
iCal is just amazing i must say.
Great, use it everyday, as i sync it with my Nokia calendar.
MrNago 2 years ago
IMO Mac is better when it comes to easy use of a Computer, but more programmers prefer Windows because it costs less.
tsipymusic 2 years ago
I would say application compatibility rather than costs, at least by my programming experience. =)
MrNago 2 years ago
@tsipymusic that is not true
macprorocks 2 years ago
Dude...... was he was calling threads, freds?.......muahahahaha
Techiboy24 2 years ago
they just figured out thread management/ Jesus Christ they're thick.
hornylink 2 years ago
I am a Microsoft guy have been for around 22 years. I have never been interested in Apple. Apple has been a niche market and really for those who are non technologists. After 22 years I am finally convinced that Apple is light years ahead of Microsoft in terms of ease of use, innovation and making a PC an exciting, stress free powerful tool. Microsoft made PCs affordable to the masses so without them we would not be where we are today but going forward it will Apple at the steering wheel!
siliconweb 2 years ago 41
right on, thats what i call giving credit where its due. without windows and pc mac wouldnt be where it is or what it is today.
twiztidsidfreak13 2 years ago 2
@siliconweb sorry, I meant to give you a thumbs up and accidently gave you a thumbs down ;-(
Techiboy24 2 years ago
no worries :-) I am very impressed with what Apple has done in the last several years but Snow Leopard and the enhancements are truly head and shoulders above Windows.
siliconweb 2 years ago 5
That's a very good point, and I'm not an apple user.
phoenixbf 2 years ago
@siliconweb True :)
kokaPRinter 1 year ago
@siliconweb Affordable?Microsoft is 3x more Expensive!!! Look at office 2007 professional $499.95 | $329.95.When you can get a OpenOffice For Free! Microsoft Is a Rip off.$219.99 For Windows 7 Ultimate,$169 for Snow Leopard box set
TheSniperofDeath 1 year ago
@TheSniperofDeath windows 7 ultimate oem is 189 and not to mention each upgrade of osx except for snow leopard was 129, plus every few versions of osx apple would stop supporting your hardware, so if you wanted the latest version youd have to buy a new mac, thats a rip off
steven4570 1 year ago 3
@TheSniperofDeath If you focus on total cost of ownership PC systems are far more affordable and why it has majority market share. Nevertheless Microsoft software is a rip off given how buggy it is and I personally wouldn't buy MS Office for those two reasons. You have to admit though that Apple PCs cost way more BUT the value is there. Apple is a "status" symbol also which is why it can command a higher price for its PCs and people are happy to pay the higher price. Keep Apple priced higher!
siliconweb 1 year ago 2
@siliconweb Dude you must be kidding. No OS can be compared to Windows 7 in terms of 'ease of use'. What's so 'innovative' in Mac OS? The application bar in the top of the screen? LOL. That was usable ten years ago, not now, with 30" LCDs. Apple finally has at least average hardware (because it switched to PC hardware=)) but the OSX has the worst UI ever; even opensource Linux beats it without a doubt ..
Mehedict 1 year ago 2
@Mehedict How old are you? :) do some google search and you'll see that M$ and APPL it's copying each other... one difference is apple it's doing in the right way... regarding UI... Man... history... all the beauty that you have on your ubuntulinuxwhateverkernel now.. it's come from Apple and even OS2Warp... Please... do yourself a favor... go study OS... please... it's like to say that Linux it's better than UNIX... or the Unix it's old... i am so sick of "teen hackers" uhh i am using Gentoo :D
dimas4u 1 year ago
@siliconweb to be the future of opperating systems would require it to work on more than one name brand of computer.
aj19bcx 1 year ago
@siliconweb I totally agree with you; I've been a diehard PC user for over a decade now but last weekend I finally put my ignorance aside and bought a 13" MacBook Pro.
Let's just say that I am VERY glad I did :p
PJacko1985 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
fuck you and your stupid accent!!!!
MrToad321 2 years ago
In my opinion even Mac OS X Tiger is way like light years better than Vista or Windows 7 the only Microsoft OS that was an alright OS was XP but other than that Leopard and Snow Leopard are just awesome and fuck anybody who hates on APPLE
edwin768 2 years ago 5
they dont sound like big advances. i think snow leopard is just there to compete with windows 7. And snow leopard won't do very well!
monkeyboy2264 2 years ago
Windows 7>Snow Leopard
I feel bad for people who spend thousands more for an idiot-proof operating system with inferior hardware.
HowsItBroin 2 years ago
you fail HowsltBroin ... Mac is way better than windows 7.
Microsofts Windows is full of viruses, errors and crashes.
ananbaransy 2 years ago
i love how all pc users ever talk about is the money. if you're not willing to spend at least 800 dollars than why are you even buying a computer?!
likekickingjesus 2 years ago 3
it's not about money; it's about bang for your buck. for $1000 i could build a computer that would destroy any imac or mac pro.
HowsItBroin 2 years ago
Yeah but you'd still have a crap OS.
AlastairReed131 2 years ago
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for people who know what they're doing, windows is superior.
HowsItBroin 2 years ago
Look around man, there's a whole lot more stuff going on other than Win.
There's linux, macos, win, chromium...
Try them all, then decide your position and opinion.
MrNago 2 years ago
no you couldent, try it.
itsonlydesign 2 years ago
yea for sure, but some people are not talking about the actual computer, many of the people prefer the mac OS over the windows OS. But for $1000 i dont think you could build a comp to destory an imac quadcore i7 or a mac pro 8core.
arthur1412 2 years ago
I'm sure windows users "buy" Windows XP, VIsta or 7 haha. Basically getting the most for less is the goal. Quality just falls away I guess.
SunnyCool 2 years ago
it strongly depends on your personal choice. For some people just love macs and some people love PCs. And some people are not financially stable but they still need a computer to complete their work. They want to use a cheap computer to finish their work. Microsoft windows is full of viruses, errors and crashes but snow leopard has its flaws too, so in the end, it is all about personal choice. There isnt a need to place unjustified stereotypes on people with seemingly fixed characteristics.
epicpeaceguy 2 years ago 2
right on man well said!
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"In only two weeks since the official commercial launch of Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows 7 has managed to surpass Apple's Snow Leopard market share. Snow Leopard has been on the market for three months while Windows 7 has only been on the market for two weeks.
Microsoft still stands dominant in the market share, holding strong at 92.52% of all computers in October, compared to Mac OS X with 5.27%, Linux with 0.96% and 1.25% with other operating systems."
cypbq 2 years ago
microsoft are evil
DiBee7j 2 years ago
You are stupid. Very stupid.
NeverMindTheGuns 2 years ago
How is this Mac Vs. PC. this just seems like Mac. I have watch all three and the only time PC is mentioned is when the Mac man is making a joke about, God forbid, having to defrag your HD.
and thumbs up to tobboh and ottovw!
jhyder777 2 years ago
the second person is great at selling lol
DiBee7j 2 years ago
If macs would be as cheap as pcs everyone would buy them.. But than Apple would become like Windows and it would get crappy as hell. See, Windows is only so bad because they have much more users. And Apple has to be so good because else EVERYONE would buy Windows
tobboh 2 years ago 4
Not true. There is still only ONE manufacturer of Macs. What plagues Windows is the staggering number of PC variants it has to run on. How many companies make PC processors, motherboards, video cards? Hundreds? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Another issue is that Apple has NEVER been shy about 'aging' off old machines. Snow leopard will NOT run on the older PPCs, it ONLY works on intel based macs. My old G4 will not run OSX 10.6.
ottovw 2 years ago 4
Do i have to buy the mac version of microsoft word/power point etc or can i download the normal version on a mac??
Moerox666 2 years ago
You would have to install a new version, or you can install Microsoft in Boot camp and use the regular microsoft office
dd4dash 2 years ago
Even though I'm a Mac user, I can't stand all those idiots clapping and clapping and clapping... what a bunch of butt suckers!
bubusdeolivos 2 years ago
So happy i just got a mac
lazirusien 2 years ago 4
ROFL, its $29 only if u have Leopard already...
drudeme1 2 years ago
we use pc because we are forced to...advertistments force us to believe pc is good..in a store there are like fifteen pcs and four macs...LOL
swisscheesepotatochi 2 years ago
Yes everywhere you find a pc.
I'm a pc user from the year 1995, and i must to say that until 2007 that i build my own pc it was a hell. Buying pc's with low performance , what a hell, the worst operating systems of microsoft were windows me ,windows 2000 and windows vista 64bit, that was the top of the crap.
mysticalclown 2 years ago 5
our presenters speak english, get further.
ChonKrispyLA 2 years ago
if you dont have a mac i feel sorry for you
kiroo54 2 years ago 51
@kiroo54 im sad for me too BUT i'm going to get one SOON!!!! lol
jeremysc123 1 year ago
@kiroo54 Then you can buy one for me ! xD
Q7R43 11 months ago
@kiroo54 if you compare two the same expensive pc's. one's a mac and one's a windows pc
the windows pc will be about 5 times better ;) If you go for a mac you'll pay mainly for the shitty apple on the top.
seriously! it makes about half the price!
you have no clue of pc's and that's why everyone's feeling sorry for you
lorin1996 7 months ago
Its fucking awesome that Snow Leopard is only $29. So going to buy when I get the money. Little disappointed that the Jew Bear didn't make a showing at the end.
Zombiebushi 2 years ago
i love how everyone goes crazy when he takes the number 1 away from the price XD that was priceless!
xnf90x2 2 years ago 3
I like how apple always stuns the audience at the end of their presentation.
blackbel4T 2 years ago
Agreed
AlbertInSanAntonio 2 years ago
i love it when people are so happy when the prices go down... it just goes to show that they could have put the prices down to begin with
ArcticSheep 2 years ago
OMG, I have been PC forever. After 28 yrs of living I just got an iMac. ...... I wish I would have had this from the beginning. I still cant believe how many people still use the PC.
kackarotto13 2 years ago 12
Im exactly the same - i just bought a Mac and they are so much better than PC's. The features and performance of Mac's are amazing!
williamgentman 2 years ago 3
Quad-core Mac pro baby, woo! insane speeds, would u agree "onceu go mac u aint going back" ?
pengo2007 2 years ago 2
lol
ArcticSheep 2 years ago
REALLY NICE o.o
xRubben 2 years ago
If a Mac was as cheap as a "PC" they would rule the world, we would ALL use Mac =3 and everybody would be happy with their macs.. at least i would be xd
juva932 2 years ago 6
Yeah I agree with you if mac's were as cheap as a PC we would all buy it. We would really be happy if mac would do that. =))
marinell8228 2 years ago 2
it is getting cheaper and cheaper... 29$ for a system? what will windows 7 be for xD
Benstaking 2 years ago 2
Well that's an system upgrade price, im talking about the whole macbook price ^^ also it's even CHEAPER for recently bought macbooks, i heard you can get the upgrade for only 10$ :O
Aww if only macbooks where that cheap :( xD
juva932 2 years ago
i moved to the mac about six months ago, i wished that i did years ago. picked it up right away and this new software looks great...
RGJACOY 2 years ago 3
Mac is cheap compared what you get with it. Out of the box, offers so much. Mostly piece of mind, they just work!
raysalyer 2 years ago 2
I hope Mac could be cheaper and then Apple will dominate the world.
xinnianhao 2 years ago 2
i agree
TheRealImjom 2 years ago
4:55 hahahahah
duanebproducions 2 years ago
I am looking forward to it... but makeing fun of exchange coasting money and still charging a lot for mobile me... >_>
drradon 2 years ago
WHAHAHA the Frenchman is a pervert! :
7:19
Very sneaky.. S3X is great!! (eerrrhh,,) SOOO...!
indoric 2 years ago
lmao, jajaja
likeupskirts 2 years ago
so just "FREE" (3) things in Snow Leopard...
funny excent
indoric 2 years ago
That guy sure does have a busy schedule...
zeldalink3211 2 years ago
This looks great. But I wish they would redesign the window appearance. The gray is kinda ugly. Windows 7 has a beautiful glass interface. I also like how Windows 7 has little animations when you open a window. It kinda, like, zooms into the window -- Same when you close. It's just eye candy, but it looks nice.
zeldalink3211 2 years ago
Really? I know how someone might think that the brushed alluminium look is a bit bland (have to say I'm a bit bored with Aqua on the whole, lost its wow effect for me), but to use on a day to day basis, all the transparencies in Vista and 7 just become distracting and annoying once you realise just how inconsistent it all is. I have 7 installed via boot camp and fusion, and I either keep Aero very dark (nearly opaque) or turn it off entirely. It doesnt help the end user at all in the end.
StefSSU 2 years ago
Quicklook Microsoft Office files? AWESOME! Amazing how Apple offers this but *MICROSOFT* Windows doesn't preview or open *MICROSOFT* Office files.
What's all this about Windows ME? The system had less than an 8th of the life time that 2K had (which support ends in 2010, July 13, testament to badass-ness MS can do if they put their minds to it.)
link48010 2 years ago 5
that french dude would totally kick ballmer's ass
dmc040 2 years ago 4
He talks funny :)
Like the french dude in Mr Bean agent movie "Jonny English" XD
1337sweden 2 years ago 3
or inspector from the pink panther lol
MacOSXLeopard2000 2 years ago 2
Yeah right.
billgoldbergmania 2 years ago
lol, the mac finally god cuda language, what next open dl? for open direct x?
Tinfoilpain 2 years ago
It does look very nice.
christheferal 2 years ago
my i should get snow leopard too and install it my pc
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
good luck with that one. Do you have an intel processor? Do you have all the technologies that make it run at 64 bit? Don't think so.
manicjupiterflute 2 years ago
i have a corei7
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
Oh, those poor people who bought the "new" iMacs from 2007 :) they wont get to enjoy OpenCL.
many Mac Pro users won't neither. apple's response is "go buy a new one!".
evgenijpro 2 years ago
As it turns out the 8800 GS in last year's iMac doesn't appear to be suported neither!
haha. nice.
evgenijpro 2 years ago
exactly.
i already saw on forums all the people who bought last year's model bitching about not being able to use 100% of Snow Leopard's features.
watch, emeek is going to defend this, telling you that you don't need OpenCL in your iMac anyway and that it's a good move to abandon people with last year's model so that everyone can "progress into future". thats how most Mac fanboys are defending this now on forums i found.
the72meters 2 years ago
Nothing to do with Apple. The GPU doesn't have the correct hardware to make it work. I'd also love a specific link to where any employee at Apple said "go buy a new one!".
niceveritt18 2 years ago
Oh and it probably will support the 8800GS. The 8800GS mobile is just a rebranded, beefed up 8600, which Open CL supports.
Take a look at Nvidia's Cuda, that only supports 8 series plus chips as well, doesn't even support ATI cards unlike OpenCL.
niceveritt18 2 years ago
i hope so. i really hope that they will support it. and they better put it on their SL specs page somewhere.
evgenijpro 2 years ago
it's apple's fault for using shit GPU's all this tme. they are the company who didnt want to abandon Combodrive on Mac mini until 2009!
yes. it has nothing to do with Apple. its not like they chose which GPU's to put inside, right? oh well. im not complaining. i just feel sorry for poor bastards who now feel like they were screwed over with their 1 year old systems. sure their iMacs will still work.. but not with 100% of features.
evgenijpro 2 years ago
So are they coming out with new iMacs even though they just did like 3 months ago?
redrider2318 2 years ago
You answered your own question tbh :)
niceveritt18 2 years ago
Hilarious, trying their best to incorporate Microsoft into their OS, dropping the price down of their OS for Leopard users only with Intel (forcing PPC owners to spend 1k for a new Mac just to use it), finally going 64bit, Microsoft has been there for a while, while other OSes have been there for years.
Funny how they did not even mention Opera web browser. Its obviously superior to IE8, Chrome, FF and Safari. I do believe most of Safari's features come from Opera.
kaosum2 2 years ago
Regarding this Dock discussion, you guys are seriously retards. Or wintards to be specific.
BTW now nobody can argue that Macs are expensive. $1199 for the 13" Macbook Pro. You can't find a single Windows PC on the market with that build quality for that price.
cendrillon1978 2 years ago
But you also have to give the Mac credit. It comes with great software like iLife. The battery usually lasts up to 3x longer, and the MacBook is on average a pound less. The chip is faster and the screen resolution is usually better.
You could get a stripped down PC for $700, but to get it performing to Mac's capabilities out of the box, it's going to be a lot more expensive.
zeldalink3211 2 years ago
I agree completely, this is where all the comparisons break down. In terms of notebooks, there simply isnt a combination of hardware and design alone (ignoring software here) that matches Apple's new Macbook Pro's in terms of Build quality and reliability. Factor in advantages with OS X and the price becomes easily worth it, there simply is no comparison. The same holds true and is even accentuated when comparing the Mac Pro with other Desktops and rigs (because its a workstation, not a desktop)
StefSSU 2 years ago
alt tab views a boring 2d icon of the apps, which is quick and easy, but you need to flick over the icon to see what it contains. - DickKnowsBest
Ok in Win 7 RC when you alt+tab and highlight the program the application is highlighted (shown) and all other opened windows go transparent. You can either use a mouse or scroll wheel with alt+tab to pick the icon. Win 7 may add a type of work spaces to it, after all they have it first before OSX did with PowerToys in WinXP.
blacksteel25 2 years ago
I'm expecting a rub in my face about the price of OSX Snow Leopard from Eric. I don't doubt he will bring it up, so I'm prepared.
I'm like, that's good that it's being released before Win 7, gives them time to fix bugs and people to get an overall opinion about it before Win 7 steals it's thunder.
blacksteel25 2 years ago
Windows 7 might as well steal OS Xs thunder, it stole everything else. LOLZ
JamesManes 2 years ago
Ill tell you one time I am a pc fan boy, but I must say i like how much snow leopard cost. 29$ is just amazing I definitly give apple props on that 5 starts. Windows looks like its going to be around 65$ for students( take the survey). So 29$ already beats hands down.
SGADark 2 years ago
Hopefully Apple's pricing of the snow leopard upgrade will get Microsoft to price the vastly preferable Windows 7 upgrade similarly.
supercoolsephirothis 2 years ago
I hate most PC OEM's except for Asus and Lenovo, well Falcon Northwest would probably trump them both. Anyway, Dell can suck it, I've dealt with them to often. Their hardware is crap and their tech support blows. I just do custom built and my headache's are far less. I have a custom computer thats over 5 years old and another one even older, not one hardware problem from it.
blacksteel25 2 years ago
My feeling is that they lowered the price so drastically in order for people to get people to totally switch to 64 bit. However, how is this going to work, is it only for leopard users or will people using Tiger and earlier be SOL paying full price. Can you do a fresh install with the SL upgrade without needing to install Leopard first?
blacksteel25 2 years ago
I doubt there will be any machine checking or activation. Apple have shown that it trusts its users by not including serials, activation etc. Did you know that OS X Single user and multipack are identical other than the packaging, Apple just trusts you to buy the correct version.
niceveritt18 2 years ago
Microsoft can not give their software out for free. its not a matter of trust, Microsoft loses tons of money from pirates. apple trusts its customers because they already took your damn wallet.
Riscmac 2 years ago
Well damn finally they get live previews and able to preview it within a folder without have to launch another application. Thanks for using that idea Apple, even though Windows did it first.
blacksteel25 2 years ago
well, quicklook does support more formats than windows live preview. you have to give apple 1 point for that. Copying is what both do best.
Riscmac 2 years ago 2
I don't recall you being able to cycle through documents and watch films within Windows Explorer. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.
Besides we already had this with Leopard. Just hit the spacebar and it launches the document or movie in a Finder without launching the app. It's just now it also does it on the actual icon.
niceveritt18 2 years ago
29 dollars?
Most expensive service pack ever
Amebixfan 2 years ago
Last time I checked redoing a little of everything is not a service pack.
JamesManes 2 years ago
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FedoraFTW 2 years ago
What about Windows 7?
themacbookone 2 years ago
yea, what about Windows 7? We've got it installed in RC version at my work and I can say its ok, but Snow Leopard blows it away. Sorry, Ive got a Mac at home..Ive seen, Ive heard, Ive used, Ive experienced, I like. I will run Windows in VMWare but never another windows PC. Once you have used Leopard you seriously will wonder what the hell you have been doing for the last god knows how many years. Im not being biased...its a fact.
nitronixasd 2 years ago 4
Weird. I just switched from Snow Leopard to Windows 7 RC1 and am quite happy about it.
doerrfan 2 years ago
and what AV are you running?
nitronixasd 2 years ago
I agree
DavidsTechShow101 2 years ago