One of the recurring themes in the Domingo wars is that in what role would he be your first choice? As to Pippo well....All of Puccini Werther, Manon, Schuberts song, Parlami de'amor Maui (sp?) Pagliacci You get the point
@MrCafiero I was aware of that.. but are you related to him.. and wasn;t he known in the us.. As Titta Ruffo? I believe he was. An article i read about him, said that his middle name or perhaps his mother's family name was Cafiero.. made me think that you could be related.. You are from Itlay, no?
Tosca is Callas but Butterfly was and always will be Tebaldi why everyine looks for who is better some roles suit individuals more than others I thank each day of my life that i have heard the best and will continue to do so. Each to his own but what a choice there is wonderfull
Tebaldi vindt ik hier absoluut super,wat een geweldige stem heeft die vrouw,di stefano is ook geweldig maar moet teveel "werken",misschien een wat mindere dag
Personally, I think the best recording of the love duet is Caruso's, because he made the recording before he lost a lot of his upper register power. Also, in his rendition, they hold the last note very long.
Pippo was not fond of this role, he considered Pinkerton a shallow self serving person, so he deliberately shaded his voice to fit the character by removing the warmth he normally sang with. That said, this is a wonderful performance early in both their careers. This was both their debuts in San Francisco and the audience loves their performance - this is what Grand Opera is all about, performances like this will never be again. Rest in peace Renata and Pippo, you now sing only for God.
I like your insight of Di Stefano's performance here. The problem I have with Di Stefano is that I compare all others to him. He stands alone and above.
Thank you for your comments, I am in total agreement, this man was an interpretive genius, no one before or since sang with such heartfelt passion and feeling. I have others that I admire, but none compare to Di Stefano - he is a class by himself.
I have heard all the negative thrown at this man - short career, inappropriate roles - ruined voice - I care NOT - this man has moved me like no other by his performances - I would listen to Pippo sing the ingrediants to Cool Whip.
I completely agree with you about Di Stefano. He WAS in a class by himself! Yet, tenors like Jose Carreras idolized him. You may agree or disagree but he moved me with some of his great 1970's recordings as did Di Stefano in the 40's and 50's.
He did sound like Pippo. I was told my someone that Di Stefano's wife said that Carreras was the closest to Pippo's singing. I don't know how true that is, but it's really the truth. Of course no one can really sound as beautiful as Di Stefano. Paired with Tebaldi is pretty much the ultimate.
@Andante735 yes, and not uncoincidentally Carreras also damaged his voice by singing open and roles to heavy for him (Calaf for example)...his voice was a glorious lyric in the 70s but became rough and wobbly in my view later....
@Matt54e ABSOLUTELY true. Prior to 1976, Carreras was arguably the greatest lyric tenor around. He promptly sang everything, usually too open and way too heavy, and blew it out shorly thereafter.
By open I mean uncovered tone that damages the vocal cords. Not using head tones- operating the voice with full voice which I think might put too much weight on the voice. I'm not a musician certainly, and my understanding is limited and based on what I've heard from friends what are singer. I imagine there are some here would be able to explain far better then me.
I was just wondering what you meant specifically. I agree that he needed to "cover" and started uncovering too high. Covering is a muscular switch that happens in the passaggio. That allows you to still sing "full voice", but in a healthy way by adding more of the thyroid muscles and infrahyoids.
You certainly explained it in a way that I couldn't have, so thanks for that. Whatever he did, it sounded glorious, but also led to a very short career.
Early on he was much better. He covered better. That was when it was glorious as you say. Later, as he started singing heavier rep. (which he should not have as he was a lyric tenor) he started uncovering higher and higher. I think he did that to get more power. It really put him off track. Luckily we can still listen to the early recordings.:)
@pippofan He was quite right. Pinkerton was an awful bastard. However, tragedy is the whole point of opera. Renata is, as always, sublime. Thank you pippofan, it is a pleasure to see a rare sensible comment on youtube.
@MegaClassiclover In point of fact, such short-term "marriages" between American sailors and Japanese women were sanctioned by both governments in order to help prevent the spread of venereal diseases. Pinkerton is very young and very naive. Sharpless is the older, more experienced diplomat and counsel in Nagasaki. He knows the customs and also knows that for Cio Cio San this is more than a marriage of sexual convenience HE should have prevented this marriage. For me, he is the "villain here.
@VinylToVideo The people that really should be cold are the NIGGERS that murdered him. How about getting up a reward to drag the NIGGERS in to be executed?
G.DI STEFANO, UNA COLONNA DELLA LIRICA BRAVO.
100gvolpe 3 days ago
RENATA,SEI BELLA COME UNA MADONNA!!!!!!!!!!!
100gvolpe 3 days ago
Good. But Bjoerling does it much better.
Tebaldi is superb, as always.
-Bill in Canada
baghend 2 months ago
Falar o que? Nada do que possa ser dito poderá traduzir o que essa interpretação representa. Pippo e Tebaldi. Que vozes!!!
pippofan123 1 year ago 2
o mio dio mio dio....MAESTOSO, SUBLIME IL CIEL IN TERRA!!!!
camtep2you 2 years ago
Non può esistere una versione migliore di questo duetto. La Tebaldi, la migliore Chochosan e Di Stefano il miglior Pinkerton di sempre
FCorbera 2 years ago
GORGEOUS singing from both of them, plush but without pushing. Bravi!!! Would that singing today were anywhere NEAR this level.
Cantormatis 2 years ago
thats quite true
the 1950,s and the 1960,s produced some of the finest opera , from singers that were at the zenith of their careers
zzzed55 2 years ago
Ha ragione super cavaradossi stanno cantando con gli angeli. Roberto
pucciniify 2 years ago
che angelico duetto, sicuramente stanno cantando lassù.
supercavaradossi 2 years ago 7
One of the recurring themes in the Domingo wars is that in what role would he be your first choice? As to Pippo well....All of Puccini Werther, Manon, Schuberts song, Parlami de'amor Maui (sp?) Pagliacci You get the point
Auxxsr1 2 years ago
That is exactly how this duet MUST be sung!!!!!!! Sublime!!!!!!!!!!
asisecanta 2 years ago 4
A rival to Gigli and del Monte - long my favourite version.
saltburner2 2 years ago
They aren't singing like this in San Francisco now!!!!!!
MrCafiero 2 years ago
@MrCafiero are related to Titto Ruffo? .. Wasnt his name Titto Cafiero Ruffo?
leonardovittori1 1 year ago
@leonardovittori1 Actually, his first name was Ruffo and last name was Titta. :^)
MrCafiero 1 year ago
@MrCafiero I was aware of that.. but are you related to him.. and wasn;t he known in the us.. As Titta Ruffo? I believe he was. An article i read about him, said that his middle name or perhaps his mother's family name was Cafiero.. made me think that you could be related.. You are from Itlay, no?
leonardovittori1 1 year ago
@leonardovittori1 He was named after his father's dog Ruffo. He flipped the name later. I am not related to him.
MrCafiero 1 year ago
@MrCafiero Or NY, believe me.
Cantormatis 1 year ago
Tosca is Callas but Butterfly was and always will be Tebaldi why everyine looks for who is better some roles suit individuals more than others I thank each day of my life that i have heard the best and will continue to do so. Each to his own but what a choice there is wonderfull
pangitbaboy 2 years ago
Mi sono emozionato come un bambino! da pelle d'oca! Pippo e Renata angeli!
TheLifar 2 years ago 2
Albanese remains my first choice, but Tebaldi is a VERY close second. Thank you for posting this.
hiram242 2 years ago
Tebaldi is the most touching, exquisite
Butterly I have ever had the privilege of
hearing. Sublime partnering and video!!
Bravo for this precious jewel!!
Kievest 2 years ago 3
What a nice duet and what a nice partnership.
tsw5ctc 2 years ago
onegin65......you are without a shadow of a doubt the maestro of You Tube opera postings...
if their is a better rendition of this duet then i have to hear it
two of the finest ...gone but never forgotton
zzzed77 2 years ago 2
The guy did everything a tenor must do to ruin his voice and yet for some years the voice was great. Of course it could not last.
antfreire 2 years ago
che bravo Pippo..e che meraviglia di Do sovracuto finale...peccato che la Tebaldi gli canti sopra....
vitruvio2 2 years ago
Meu Deus! Que vozes! Obrigado Onegin65 por essa maravilha.
pippofan123 3 years ago 2
Thank's for this video..really!!
I love Di Stefano and especially when he sings Puccini..the best!!!
TommydiStefano 3 years ago
Marvelous singing.TY
Dobrib 3 years ago
Magnificent! Brava! Bravo!TY.
paulostroff99 3 years ago
Is there any one who still has "La Beheme" with Di Stefano and Tebaldi to share with us here in YouTube? Thank you very much.---dancewu(dot)net
georgewu5 3 years ago
Tebaldi vindt ik hier absoluut super,wat een geweldige stem heeft die vrouw,di stefano is ook geweldig maar moet teveel "werken",misschien een wat mindere dag
bobtemming 3 years ago
genios genios y genios
cOviimOrena 3 years ago 3
Personally, I think the best recording of the love duet is Caruso's, because he made the recording before he lost a lot of his upper register power. Also, in his rendition, they hold the last note very long.
phantom4087 3 years ago 2
This is from the CD "Chicago". It was actually in San Francisco recorded over 3 nights.
Brilliant live performances !!! This CD is well worth it if you are an Opera fan in fact it's a must.
mgbushido 3 years ago 2
Pippo was not fond of this role, he considered Pinkerton a shallow self serving person, so he deliberately shaded his voice to fit the character by removing the warmth he normally sang with. That said, this is a wonderful performance early in both their careers. This was both their debuts in San Francisco and the audience loves their performance - this is what Grand Opera is all about, performances like this will never be again. Rest in peace Renata and Pippo, you now sing only for God.
pippofan 3 years ago 16
I like your insight of Di Stefano's performance here. The problem I have with Di Stefano is that I compare all others to him. He stands alone and above.
mgbushido 3 years ago 4
Thank you for your comments, I am in total agreement, this man was an interpretive genius, no one before or since sang with such heartfelt passion and feeling. I have others that I admire, but none compare to Di Stefano - he is a class by himself.
I have heard all the negative thrown at this man - short career, inappropriate roles - ruined voice - I care NOT - this man has moved me like no other by his performances - I would listen to Pippo sing the ingrediants to Cool Whip.
pippofan 3 years ago 2
I completely agree with you about Di Stefano. He WAS in a class by himself! Yet, tenors like Jose Carreras idolized him. You may agree or disagree but he moved me with some of his great 1970's recordings as did Di Stefano in the 40's and 50's.
Tenor5274 3 years ago
I have a recording from the early 70's of Carreras singing "Che gelida" and it is eerie how much he sounded like Pippo.
pippofan 3 years ago
He did sound like Pippo. I was told my someone that Di Stefano's wife said that Carreras was the closest to Pippo's singing. I don't know how true that is, but it's really the truth. Of course no one can really sound as beautiful as Di Stefano. Paired with Tebaldi is pretty much the ultimate.
Andante735 3 years ago
@Andante735 yes, and not uncoincidentally Carreras also damaged his voice by singing open and roles to heavy for him (Calaf for example)...his voice was a glorious lyric in the 70s but became rough and wobbly in my view later....
Matt54e 2 years ago
@Matt54e ABSOLUTELY true. Prior to 1976, Carreras was arguably the greatest lyric tenor around. He promptly sang everything, usually too open and way too heavy, and blew it out shorly thereafter.
Cantormatis 1 year ago
All things aside, he sang with a fully opened voice. I believe that was the thing that led to his early demise. Like you said, who really cares.
Andante735 3 years ago
What do you mean, exactly, by "open"?
MrCafiero 3 years ago
By open I mean uncovered tone that damages the vocal cords. Not using head tones- operating the voice with full voice which I think might put too much weight on the voice. I'm not a musician certainly, and my understanding is limited and based on what I've heard from friends what are singer. I imagine there are some here would be able to explain far better then me.
Andante735 3 years ago
I was just wondering what you meant specifically. I agree that he needed to "cover" and started uncovering too high. Covering is a muscular switch that happens in the passaggio. That allows you to still sing "full voice", but in a healthy way by adding more of the thyroid muscles and infrahyoids.
MrCafiero 3 years ago
You certainly explained it in a way that I couldn't have, so thanks for that. Whatever he did, it sounded glorious, but also led to a very short career.
Andante735 3 years ago
Early on he was much better. He covered better. That was when it was glorious as you say. Later, as he started singing heavier rep. (which he should not have as he was a lyric tenor) he started uncovering higher and higher. I think he did that to get more power. It really put him off track. Luckily we can still listen to the early recordings.:)
MrCafiero 3 years ago
@pippofan He was quite right. Pinkerton was an awful bastard. However, tragedy is the whole point of opera. Renata is, as always, sublime. Thank you pippofan, it is a pleasure to see a rare sensible comment on youtube.
MegaClassiclover 1 year ago 2
@MegaClassiclover In point of fact, such short-term "marriages" between American sailors and Japanese women were sanctioned by both governments in order to help prevent the spread of venereal diseases. Pinkerton is very young and very naive. Sharpless is the older, more experienced diplomat and counsel in Nagasaki. He knows the customs and also knows that for Cio Cio San this is more than a marriage of sexual convenience HE should have prevented this marriage. For me, he is the "villain here.
assindiastignani 7 months ago
@pippofan Not surprising; he does sound a little cold here.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
@VinylToVideo The people that really should be cold are the NIGGERS that murdered him. How about getting up a reward to drag the NIGGERS in to be executed?
madisonelectronic 4 months ago
E' l'esecuzione più emozionante di questo duetto d'amore.
giuseppecaruso2 4 years ago 4
like the unfolding of a giant golden flower of GREAT and beautiful singing......what a treasure.
A7sogno 4 years ago 5
Amazing performance.
mrrk 4 years ago 3
Two glorious voices - Thanks for posting this.
Great singing from both of them.
VivaTebaldi 4 years ago 3