@Elementorum Reality disproves your position. If you actually read the comments on this video other TVPers have looked at data sources other than the WorldBank and have come to similar conclusions.
Go and check Somalia and all the 3th world countries which are more than 70% of all countries as in land and people and then say it is BS that the world isn't starving!!!
@boramo1305 If I say there's going to be an increased rate of starvation in 10 years and there's a decreased rate of starvation in 10 years ...am I right or am I wrong?
when you show the clip from fresco back in Larry King Interview 1974...i wonder how you could skip the start of the video ?? maybe you watch it again ...why you dont show the start clip where Larry King READS WHAT FRESCO HAS DONE ....why you dont us this??dude it is clear you dont care about any truth you just take something from TZM or RBE and then you make it look bad...so it is safe to say you are a fanatic..you take only what fits you and you let all out that refutes you
It would be good to know what data he was using for those predictions, however I know many scientists who have made both wrong and right predictions and trend analysis. Its part of sticking your neck out in any way. We do have mass starvation and huge environmental destruction, but total was vague and over the top.
@axe863 I wouldnt worry about it but i was talking about Jacque: it would be nice to know where Jacque was getting his info from for those predictions. I havent looked at all your comments but I dont think you have that there, you most likely misunderstood my comment.
@Neanderthalcouzin He was making a prediction whilst correctly using Technocracy's model of crisis. He was wrong because technocracy's model of crisis is wrong.
@axe863 why is Technocracy's model of crisis wrong explain smart axe863?? dude you dont know shit :D...many scientists Predicted that at the beginning of the 21 century mankind will use different energy systems and fossil fuels are not used anymore...what the scientists did not consider was the fact that most of the worlds people are MORONS ...AND CAPITALISM HAS successfully brainwashed most of the worlds people to support a system that will lead to destruction of us all
"@ShiftingTheParadigms TVP economics is a straight up ripoff of Technocracy. This will the second part of why do people laugh at TVP? originality fail. The technocratic economic model predicts ever declining purchasing power due to technologically induced under and unemployment because they assume zero substitution and a fixed technology set. In their model, man hours fall and purchasing power decreases as a direct result of money prices aka the price system aka the monetary system LOLLLLL"
I did a little research and your right, 1970- 37% 1980- 28% 1990- 20% 2005- 16% 2007- 17% 2009- 16% So yes there has been a decrease in starvation percentages all do to the very same types of efficiency Jacque talkes about constantly. So it still makes your video irrelevent. Jacque can't see directly into the future just like you or I can't. If his comments werent taken out of context by your nifty editing job then you and he should both be stoked that he wasn't correct.
@ShiftingTheParadigms TVP economics is a straight up ripoff of Technocracy. This will the second part of why do people laugh at TVP? originality fail. The technocratic economic model predicts ever declining purchasing power due to technologically induced under and unemployment because they assume zero substitution and a fixed technology set. In their model, man hours fall and purchasing power decreases as a direct result of money prices aka the price system aka the monetary system LOLLLLL
@ShiftingTheParadigms If this is the case, the most advanced economies should have had the highest unemployment and the highest rate of decline in employment. Global poverty would have increased rapidly due to globalization and capital intensification, not declined rapidly.
@ShiftingTheParadigms Checkmate. Now go tell your TVP/TZM friends that Fresco's bastardization (TVP) of a bastardization (Technocracy) of Marx's hypothesis of capitalistic crisis was wrong.
According to estimates by the Food and Agriculture Organization there were 925 million under- or malnourished people in the world in 2010. This was a decrease from an estimate of 1023 million malnourished people in 2009. In 2007, 923 million people were reported as being undernourished, an increase of 80 million since 1990-92. The only way I could see Jacque being wrong is that when he made that prediction there already was mass starvation.
@ShiftingTheParadigms When did I say it was a steady decline.... speculation drove up prices right before the crash and the crash depressed demand. Look at the long term trend not yearly fluctuations. In the early 1980's, extreme poverty status plagued 40 percent of the global population.... by the early 2000s it was down to 21 percent.
Listen to his exact words... "we have 7 years TIL mass starvation" When he made that statement extreme poverty was > 40% ..its long term trend is down
No I was going to ask you that same question because it was you who presented those figures and they didn't make shit for sense to me either. I can however, if your figures are accurate, tell you that a drop from 3.5 billion starving down to 1.5 billion is still mass starvation. I would also need the figures from 1974, 1999. Aside from the fact that you say your source was the worldbank???
It was you who for whatever reason decided to turn it into a homosexual thing, why, I have no idea I could only begin to speculate, although I'm not interested in your sexual preference, unlike you who obviously from your statements seem to be interested in mine. You don't need to jock my nuts too, you seem to have your hands full with Jacque already, why don't you just stick with him for now.
@ShiftingTheParadigms Sorry if I thought you were gay for making jokes about me riding another mans genitals but you got to admit that sounds pretty gay... I mean why did you think about a joke involving male genitals but Ill give just assume you're not gay from now on.
You still didnt answer how a decline by 50% is an increase by 50%..... is that TVP Math?
@ShiftingTheParadigms If you can read, I have already submitted more evidence than your entire movement since its inception....or maybe the WorldBank is in on the conspiracy ....ques spooky music. ;)
@axe863 So the 1.5 billion people that are starving on this planet isn't mass starvation to you? How many does it have to be??? 3.5 billion??? Even if the number has declined rather than increased which I dont think is the case and you haven't shown any evidence otherwise, it still doesn't change the fact that mass starvation is mass starvation. So once again, you're a fucking moron. And yes I do say that on a video where you have nothing better to do that fail at making fun of his predictions.
@ShiftingTheParadigms """When someone sounds the alarm and says mass starvation will occur in X more years.... it implies an increased rate of starvation, not a declining one. Your prophet was completely wrong....deal with it. """""
Thats like saying in 1978 ...omg theres going to be a massive flood in 20 years....when every year until 1978, the water level declined at 0.5% per year and the time period between 1978-1998 the water level declined by 50%....
Nearly 7 billion people on the planet. . .even 1% of 7billion is mass starvation in my book. You can split semantic hairs all day, doesn't change the fact. And I'm sure more than 1% of that 7billion are starving. You fail again.
@ShiftingTheParadigms When someone sounds the alarm and says mass starvation will occur in X more years.... it implies an increased rate of starvation, not a declining one. Your prophet was completely wrong....deal with it.
Total environmental destruction. . . mass starvation. Hmmm The air is polluted. The water is polluted. The ozone layer has holes. The top soil is being depleted. The rain forests are being destroyed. And how many people a day die from starvation let alone the numbers of those starving and not far from death??? If thats not total environmental destruction and mass starvation then I don't know what is. You fail.
@ShiftingTheParadigms As I said in a previous comment, the percentage of global population that live in extreme poverty has declined by 40% in the past 2 decades. The amount of pollution per unit of production has also been steadily declining. You argue that externalities are not priced in for certain economic behavior and yet you advocate a ZERO price system....aka ZERO externalities are internalized through free interactions..... this necessitates a power structure to limit consumption.
@axe863 And the reason I say that is because you're jocking Jacques nuts harder than any advocate of TZM or TVP that I've ever met. Keep up the failed work on your TVP Fanboy page! LMAO
I like how your follow up statement has nothing to do with anything, just a failed attempt last resort at trying to make fun of "what i'm into" as if you even had the slightest.
@ShiftingTheParadigms I already answered your question before you even asked it. You think a 50 percent decline is a 50 percent increase. You started with the repressed homosexual stuff like jockeying a 98 years olds nuts...btw this is the gayest thing that I have ever heard in my life ...and I have gay friends
@axe863 Actually I didn't say "jockeying" first off. The term was "jocking" derived from the word jock strap. Much in the way a jock strap cups, secures, and holds in place someone's nuts (balls or testicles), some humans also hold, grip, or "jock" someone in order to impress, gain favor, or attract. Jocking is the act or art of placing someone on a higher level or pedestal, most times undeservedly and annoyingly so, which is exactly what you're doing with your Jacque Fresco/TVP Fanboy page.
@ShiftingTheParadigms Mass starvation is mass starvation ..... the starvation of individuals as a percentage of global population is the lowest in the entire history of man. Do you know that in the past people used to have several kids in order to have the surviving ones take care of them? Do you understand that due to economic liberalization the percentage of individuals living in extreme poverty declined by sorry I was wrong before .... It declined by 45-50% ==> Source Worldbank
@Jossos What !!!!! This statement is extraordinarily at variance with reality. Due to globalization and economic liberalization, extreme poverty has declined by over 40% in the last 2 decades. It wasn't even constant... it sharply declined ...and yet you say it sharply increased.
The only reason you're on YouTube is to bash TVP and TZM. Do you really think anyone on that side will take little annoying dipshits like you seriously? You're just pathetic.
@Meowbay Yes... Ive been on youtube for years just so I can start bashing TVP/TZM a few weeks ago. This is a 25 sec lol video. Why cant we laugh at ridiculous claims? ;)
I did want to also add a few facts about food and starvation (40,000+++ humans die EVERYDAY from starvation). 90% of our big ocean fish are GONE!!! Since 1970, 90% of ALL Rainforest deforestation has been from livestock consumption; 12-22 pounds of grain, and 2500 gallons of water to produce 1 pound of flesh! This is why I am not a fan of TZM and TVP: they need to be talking about this because of all their holier-than-thou "Resource-Based Economy rhetoric" and they are not!
@VeganZeitgeist An ever decreasing percentage of the global population starve to death each year because global extreme poverty has declined significantly due to economic liberalization. Please link the peer reviewed papers that detail the decline in fish and deforestation. Even if this were true, what would you do to individuals that didnt stop their consumption of fish/ general meat.
@axe863 WOW I don't know where your getting your "FACTS", but there is not an org (and yes ALL are "peer reviewed" even though you know that peer reviewed is a "monetary agenda" joke!!!) on the planet that is stating a decline in starvation... it has been rising exponentially with the growth of meat and dairy (MAD) consumption in developing nations/"economic liberalization" I will respond with a few vids if that helps. BTW, humans are herbivores and YES ALL that evidence is "peer reviewed"!
@VeganZeitgeist Extreme poverty has declined from 40% to 21% in the past few decades due to economic liberalization. My source is the WorldBank not some conspiracy nut's website. Monetary agenda .... lol wtf
@VeganZeitgeist Monetary agenda.... reducing the illiquid drags on the real economy? I'm eating some chicken and cheese as we speak :) Its so delicious.
@VeganZeitgeist 2500 gallons is a ridiculous number to cite. One should only care about the ill effects of water redistribution and the cost of clearing up pollution not the absolute amount of water utilized.
Are you "certain" he is wrong? I am not a hugh fan because sadly he is not Vegan, so he does not understand the environmental (resources) impact of meat and dairy (MAD) consumption; same as most in TVP and TZM. But, some of the few scientists who have spoken out say we have passed many environmental tipping points and humans will be extinct in less than 100 years. Some say we have time, but NOT much! Arctic sea ice is gone and most Rainforests within 10-15 years! Just a few thoughts!
@VeganZeitgeist Oh so hes operating at a different time. His 1981 is our 2111. To him seven years is over 100+. So his 1981 prediction is right, we just have to give him time. Well, I can say Harold Campin'sg biblical prediction was right, we just need to keep waiting.
This is why I lol @ Zeitards when they tell me the whole shit house is going up soon. Like seriously, Fresco has been saying THE END IS NIGH his whole life.
Actually he was right...
Elementorum 3 days ago
@Elementorum Reality disproves your position. If you actually read the comments on this video other TVPers have looked at data sources other than the WorldBank and have come to similar conclusions.
axe863 3 days ago
Go and check Somalia and all the 3th world countries which are more than 70% of all countries as in land and people and then say it is BS that the world isn't starving!!!
boramo1305 1 month ago
@boramo1305 If I say there's going to be an increased rate of starvation in 10 years and there's a decreased rate of starvation in 10 years ...am I right or am I wrong?
axe863 1 month ago
@boramo1305
Go and check how much america and even 70's russia was able to produce in agriculture with small plots of land.
fountainherz 3 days ago
when you show the clip from fresco back in Larry King Interview 1974...i wonder how you could skip the start of the video ?? maybe you watch it again ...why you dont show the start clip where Larry King READS WHAT FRESCO HAS DONE ....why you dont us this??dude it is clear you dont care about any truth you just take something from TZM or RBE and then you make it look bad...so it is safe to say you are a fanatic..you take only what fits you and you let all out that refutes you
thelion2430 2 months ago
It would be good to know what data he was using for those predictions, however I know many scientists who have made both wrong and right predictions and trend analysis. Its part of sticking your neck out in any way. We do have mass starvation and huge environmental destruction, but total was vague and over the top.
Its not really humorous though.
Neanderthalcouzin 6 months ago
@Neanderthalcouzin Did you not read any of the comments on this video? I will not repeat them when they are so easily viewable.
axe863 6 months ago
@axe863 I wouldnt worry about it but i was talking about Jacque: it would be nice to know where Jacque was getting his info from for those predictions. I havent looked at all your comments but I dont think you have that there, you most likely misunderstood my comment.
Neanderthalcouzin 5 months ago
@Neanderthalcouzin He was making a prediction whilst correctly using Technocracy's model of crisis. He was wrong because technocracy's model of crisis is wrong.
axe863 5 months ago
@axe863 why is Technocracy's model of crisis wrong explain smart axe863?? dude you dont know shit :D...many scientists Predicted that at the beginning of the 21 century mankind will use different energy systems and fossil fuels are not used anymore...what the scientists did not consider was the fact that most of the worlds people are MORONS ...AND CAPITALISM HAS successfully brainwashed most of the worlds people to support a system that will lead to destruction of us all
thelion2430 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This has been flagged as spam show
"@ShiftingTheParadigms TVP economics is a straight up ripoff of Technocracy. This will the second part of why do people laugh at TVP? originality fail. The technocratic economic model predicts ever declining purchasing power due to technologically induced under and unemployment because they assume zero substitution and a fixed technology set. In their model, man hours fall and purchasing power decreases as a direct result of money prices aka the price system aka the monetary system LOLLLLL"
axe863 5 months ago
I did a little research and your right, 1970- 37% 1980- 28% 1990- 20% 2005- 16% 2007- 17% 2009- 16% So yes there has been a decrease in starvation percentages all do to the very same types of efficiency Jacque talkes about constantly. So it still makes your video irrelevent. Jacque can't see directly into the future just like you or I can't. If his comments werent taken out of context by your nifty editing job then you and he should both be stoked that he wasn't correct.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ShiftingTheParadigms TVP economics is a straight up ripoff of Technocracy. This will the second part of why do people laugh at TVP? originality fail. The technocratic economic model predicts ever declining purchasing power due to technologically induced under and unemployment because they assume zero substitution and a fixed technology set. In their model, man hours fall and purchasing power decreases as a direct result of money prices aka the price system aka the monetary system LOLLLLL
axe863 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ShiftingTheParadigms If this is the case, the most advanced economies should have had the highest unemployment and the highest rate of decline in employment. Global poverty would have increased rapidly due to globalization and capital intensification, not declined rapidly.
axe863 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ShiftingTheParadigms Search youtube for "The North American Technate TNAT Technocracy" You will see striking similarities to TVP economics.
axe863 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ShiftingTheParadigms Checkmate. Now go tell your TVP/TZM friends that Fresco's bastardization (TVP) of a bastardization (Technocracy) of Marx's hypothesis of capitalistic crisis was wrong.
axe863 6 months ago
According to estimates by the Food and Agriculture Organization there were 925 million under- or malnourished people in the world in 2010. This was a decrease from an estimate of 1023 million malnourished people in 2009. In 2007, 923 million people were reported as being undernourished, an increase of 80 million since 1990-92. The only way I could see Jacque being wrong is that when he made that prediction there already was mass starvation.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms When did I say it was a steady decline.... speculation drove up prices right before the crash and the crash depressed demand. Look at the long term trend not yearly fluctuations. In the early 1980's, extreme poverty status plagued 40 percent of the global population.... by the early 2000s it was down to 21 percent.
Listen to his exact words... "we have 7 years TIL mass starvation" When he made that statement extreme poverty was > 40% ..its long term trend is down
axe863 6 months ago
No I was going to ask you that same question because it was you who presented those figures and they didn't make shit for sense to me either. I can however, if your figures are accurate, tell you that a drop from 3.5 billion starving down to 1.5 billion is still mass starvation. I would also need the figures from 1974, 1999. Aside from the fact that you say your source was the worldbank???
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
It was you who for whatever reason decided to turn it into a homosexual thing, why, I have no idea I could only begin to speculate, although I'm not interested in your sexual preference, unlike you who obviously from your statements seem to be interested in mine. You don't need to jock my nuts too, you seem to have your hands full with Jacque already, why don't you just stick with him for now.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms Sorry if I thought you were gay for making jokes about me riding another mans genitals but you got to admit that sounds pretty gay... I mean why did you think about a joke involving male genitals but Ill give just assume you're not gay from now on.
You still didnt answer how a decline by 50% is an increase by 50%..... is that TVP Math?
axe863 6 months ago
And I hate to point this out but he seems to be your prophet not mine. I haven't started a whole page dedicated to him.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms "he seems to be your prophet not mine" o_0 You say this on a video in which I make fun of his crazy predictions.
axe863 6 months ago
Ever increasing population but you claim starvation numbers are decreasing? I would need to see some evidence.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms If you can read, I have already submitted more evidence than your entire movement since its inception....or maybe the WorldBank is in on the conspiracy ....ques spooky music. ;)
axe863 6 months ago
@axe863 So the 1.5 billion people that are starving on this planet isn't mass starvation to you? How many does it have to be??? 3.5 billion??? Even if the number has declined rather than increased which I dont think is the case and you haven't shown any evidence otherwise, it still doesn't change the fact that mass starvation is mass starvation. So once again, you're a fucking moron. And yes I do say that on a video where you have nothing better to do that fail at making fun of his predictions.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms than*
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms """When someone sounds the alarm and says mass starvation will occur in X more years.... it implies an increased rate of starvation, not a declining one. Your prophet was completely wrong....deal with it. """""
Thats like saying in 1978 ...omg theres going to be a massive flood in 20 years....when every year until 1978, the water level declined at 0.5% per year and the time period between 1978-1998 the water level declined by 50%....
axe863 6 months ago
Nearly 7 billion people on the planet. . .even 1% of 7billion is mass starvation in my book. You can split semantic hairs all day, doesn't change the fact. And I'm sure more than 1% of that 7billion are starving. You fail again.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms When someone sounds the alarm and says mass starvation will occur in X more years.... it implies an increased rate of starvation, not a declining one. Your prophet was completely wrong....deal with it.
axe863 6 months ago
Total environmental destruction. . . mass starvation. Hmmm The air is polluted. The water is polluted. The ozone layer has holes. The top soil is being depleted. The rain forests are being destroyed. And how many people a day die from starvation let alone the numbers of those starving and not far from death??? If thats not total environmental destruction and mass starvation then I don't know what is. You fail.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms As I said in a previous comment, the percentage of global population that live in extreme poverty has declined by 40% in the past 2 decades. The amount of pollution per unit of production has also been steadily declining. You argue that externalities are not priced in for certain economic behavior and yet you advocate a ZERO price system....aka ZERO externalities are internalized through free interactions..... this necessitates a power structure to limit consumption.
axe863 6 months ago
@axe863 And the reason I say that is because you're jocking Jacques nuts harder than any advocate of TZM or TVP that I've ever met. Keep up the failed work on your TVP Fanboy page! LMAO
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms Dont get me wrong....dude, its ok if youre into guys... but why be so vivid?
axe863 6 months ago
I like how your follow up statement has nothing to do with anything, just a failed attempt last resort at trying to make fun of "what i'm into" as if you even had the slightest.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms I already answered your question before you even asked it. You think a 50 percent decline is a 50 percent increase. You started with the repressed homosexual stuff like jockeying a 98 years olds nuts...btw this is the gayest thing that I have ever heard in my life ...and I have gay friends
axe863 6 months ago
@axe863 Actually I didn't say "jockeying" first off. The term was "jocking" derived from the word jock strap. Much in the way a jock strap cups, secures, and holds in place someone's nuts (balls or testicles), some humans also hold, grip, or "jock" someone in order to impress, gain favor, or attract. Jocking is the act or art of placing someone on a higher level or pedestal, most times undeservedly and annoyingly so, which is exactly what you're doing with your Jacque Fresco/TVP Fanboy page.
ShiftingTheParadigms 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms o_0 ... wow what a weird saying.... lol now I know new weird slang
axe863 6 months ago
@ShiftingTheParadigms Mass starvation is mass starvation ..... the starvation of individuals as a percentage of global population is the lowest in the entire history of man. Do you know that in the past people used to have several kids in order to have the surviving ones take care of them? Do you understand that due to economic liberalization the percentage of individuals living in extreme poverty declined by sorry I was wrong before .... It declined by 45-50% ==> Source Worldbank
axe863 6 months ago
7 TVPers can't lol at crazy predictions. Your prophet was wrong.
axe863 6 months ago
well he got the mass starvation part right
Jossos 6 months ago
@Jossos What !!!!! This statement is extraordinarily at variance with reality. Due to globalization and economic liberalization, extreme poverty has declined by over 40% in the last 2 decades. It wasn't even constant... it sharply declined ...and yet you say it sharply increased.
axe863 6 months ago
The only reason you're on YouTube is to bash TVP and TZM. Do you really think anyone on that side will take little annoying dipshits like you seriously? You're just pathetic.
Meowbay 7 months ago
@Meowbay Yes... Ive been on youtube for years just so I can start bashing TVP/TZM a few weeks ago. This is a 25 sec lol video. Why cant we laugh at ridiculous claims? ;)
axe863 7 months ago
I approve all video responses.
axe863 8 months ago
I did want to also add a few facts about food and starvation (40,000+++ humans die EVERYDAY from starvation). 90% of our big ocean fish are GONE!!! Since 1970, 90% of ALL Rainforest deforestation has been from livestock consumption; 12-22 pounds of grain, and 2500 gallons of water to produce 1 pound of flesh! This is why I am not a fan of TZM and TVP: they need to be talking about this because of all their holier-than-thou "Resource-Based Economy rhetoric" and they are not!
VeganZeitgeist 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist An ever decreasing percentage of the global population starve to death each year because global extreme poverty has declined significantly due to economic liberalization. Please link the peer reviewed papers that detail the decline in fish and deforestation. Even if this were true, what would you do to individuals that didnt stop their consumption of fish/ general meat.
axe863 8 months ago
@axe863 WOW I don't know where your getting your "FACTS", but there is not an org (and yes ALL are "peer reviewed" even though you know that peer reviewed is a "monetary agenda" joke!!!) on the planet that is stating a decline in starvation... it has been rising exponentially with the growth of meat and dairy (MAD) consumption in developing nations/"economic liberalization" I will respond with a few vids if that helps. BTW, humans are herbivores and YES ALL that evidence is "peer reviewed"!
VeganZeitgeist 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Extreme poverty has declined from 40% to 21% in the past few decades due to economic liberalization. My source is the WorldBank not some conspiracy nut's website. Monetary agenda .... lol wtf
axe863 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Monetary agenda.... reducing the illiquid drags on the real economy? I'm eating some chicken and cheese as we speak :) Its so delicious.
axe863 8 months ago
@axe863 Very sorry for you. The anger and sadness that you must suffer to be so cruel and unaware; I cannot even imagine!
VeganZeitgeist 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist 2500 gallons is a ridiculous number to cite. One should only care about the ill effects of water redistribution and the cost of clearing up pollution not the absolute amount of water utilized.
axe863 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Humans are herbivores .... lol wtf :P
axe863 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Btw, if anything this is a perfect example of the same tragedy of the commons that will befall, to a greater degree, TVP
axe863 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Btw, the water isnt destroyed :P LOL. Does it go into outer-space? Are the laws of physics incorrect and matter can be destroyed.
axe863 8 months ago
Are you "certain" he is wrong? I am not a hugh fan because sadly he is not Vegan, so he does not understand the environmental (resources) impact of meat and dairy (MAD) consumption; same as most in TVP and TZM. But, some of the few scientists who have spoken out say we have passed many environmental tipping points and humans will be extinct in less than 100 years. Some say we have time, but NOT much! Arctic sea ice is gone and most Rainforests within 10-15 years! Just a few thoughts!
VeganZeitgeist 8 months ago
@VeganZeitgeist Oh so hes operating at a different time. His 1981 is our 2111. To him seven years is over 100+. So his 1981 prediction is right, we just have to give him time. Well, I can say Harold Campin'sg biblical prediction was right, we just need to keep waiting.
axe863 8 months ago
Btw, I have a slight cold :P
axe863 8 months ago
This is why I lol @ Zeitards when they tell me the whole shit house is going up soon. Like seriously, Fresco has been saying THE END IS NIGH his whole life.
machwon 8 months ago