How to edit an electro kick drum to be crisp and punchy!

[funghetto86]

@ProducerTutorials what samples do you recommend for making an electro kick, 808/909 or....? thanks and nice vid

[Ayanami0001]

What EQ do you prefer for best sound?

[EffectsOfMaya]

thanks mate :)

[Jhonatan5]

@Sweetassour Yes.. i understand your point.

[LukeSega]

I LOVE YOUR TUTORIALS!!!

THANKS MATE!

[d4funky1]

Man you've got some vst's there my friend. Great video and love the way you seem to end all your...

[Cutrexxx]

damn that trick with the limiter is extreme nice! thank you so much!

[luntherprime1234]

I fucking hate tutorials where they just expect you to have every single plugin you can get

[vanximmer]

@luntherprime1234 If you know what you are doing, you can replicate these settings on even the default plugins that come with your DAW.

[doctorbower1989]

Mako you are a massive douche. His tutorial sounds sick and of course he knows what a fucking ratio is. He was adjusting the attack release etc. until it SOUNDED GOOD. Wanker.

[MrHypnoCat]

@americaneagle792 true.. id cut off below 50 completely from my kick and start to reduce bass around 35-40.

what im saying is that your bass is gna take up a lot of space around 70-90 hz. and your kick takes room up there as well as at 50-65. if you cut off below 70 on your kick record it in audio then spec analyse you will see the exact freq. I just reduce that area from my kick with a thin eq

[MakoMusicOfficial]

no offence dude but you dont know what your doing

[philxcorexinxurxface]

@MakoMusicOfficial hahahaha.. mate, you clearly have no idea who this guy is, i assure you, he knows his shit.

[MakoMusicOfficial]

@philxcorexinxurxface Just cause he may have had some exposure doesnt mean he knows what he is doing. I mean........he opened the API 2500 and didn't have a clue what he was doing. Just fiddled with some dials and left it at what he 'thought' sounded good. Didnt know where to set his ratio. Don't get me wrong I aint hating, its just people should learn why plugins do what they do, not just 'wack it in an insert and turn it up!'

[MRsuperSexyNumberOne]

really good man!

[wasupthere]

thanks mate, i enjoyed this, your kick does cut thru and sounds tight. your approach is " revolutionary" :-) in the sense that any old school engineer idiot , will say that you are murdering the laws of audio engineering and your kick. I say, we live in a digital world now and if it sounds good ...who gives a shit how it was achieved.

[sepb88]

McProductions got owned

[KeithMMeldrum]

does the pro q eq give the sound color??

[JHiZ06]

why do people have to post if the tutorial didnt help them... why dont you just take the time you waste flaming someone who is doing this for FREE and go search for one of the other 1,000 tutorials out there.

Thanks for the help mate.

[EmptyUrbanLegends]

What program are you using?



[leondustar]

Why do such people get excited over nothing.

It is actually very clever to compress without to much bass.

At a later stage one can easily introduce subbass in various ways: by mixing a dry signal of the kick to the masterbus, envelope subbass synthesizers, high multipole filters. Thank you for sharing this technique to world, you are awesome.

[nolifedotcom]

i probably would buy some of these plugins and whatnot, if it werent for the fact that they are so horribly pricy. how is someone without a big ass income going to have enough money for this?

[terryfink]

@nolifedotcom pirate bay

[Bibashmusic]

Gr8, Very useful tips.thanks dude !!

[SergeantHi5]

Thanks mate, keep it up.

[SGwizard1]

i would say that you should be doing a tutorial, with the logic plugins, not your personal ones. makes it too niche.

[JDGaffe]

To the people saying it sounded good without the effects must not have a decent monitoring system. With the effects bypassed the sample is just screaming to be compressed, it's all over the place. I also agree with the bass removal if you want the bass track to be the emphasis in the low end, I personally don't like the sound of a kick with a side chained bassline. It just too much of a constant bass, there's no groove in the low end. It's all down to preference though.

Good tut' man

[theguyi26]

Interestingly enough, I prefer the original "bypassed" version to the version with effects.

I'm beginning to realize the importance of having a good kick sample to begin with. If I'd used this sample my mix would've sounded much better.

[TheWwmusic]

I am just listening to this on my studio system with Yamaha subwoofer and I'm sorry but cutting at 70Hz for dance music is just plain wrong. None of the top dance producers advise it. The optimal cut is 26-40 Hz for dance and 50 or more for pop and other music styles. I appreciate people doing effort to educate others but my information comes from guys like Deadmau5, D.Ramirez, Gabreil&Dresden and others as well as having local club hits myself. Sorry to post critique, tho. Have a nice day!

[CaptainStrobe]

hey very nice tutorial,

would you make one for one of the main issues for people trying to mess around with kicks? I' m talkin about layering..a main kick with a sub kick (808, 908, or sine waves), that's really tricky and there's some steps to follow. Thanks :D

[djpieterl]

Thanks for this video! I have trouble getting it right, but this one really points me in the right direction!

[thehalestorm]

Man, look at all these haters... Good tutorial.

[MCPurductions]

why would i want a tutoiral from someone who doesnt even know what their doing thenselvs

[ProducerTutorials]

@MCPurductions im not getting paid or anything from this im just doing them out of good will. ALSO i notice you have a picture of deadmau5 as your display... im actually one of the sound designers who created the drum samples to the drum synth he uses. ;)

[Tekmatic]

@ProducerTutorials Keep up the great work Mikey. These idiots have no clue who you are!

[MrHippieD]

@ProducerTutorials A person who produced for Deadmau5 wouldn't give there secretes out for free especially put them out on youtube. What is your producer name? Who do you go by?

[jmangalessons]

@MCPurductions psh shut up, you know that kick drum sounds good as hell

[troelsbk]

no bass, no dynamics. you dont need extreme separation to get a good heavy mix. its all about the balance between kick and bass.

[ProducerTutorials]

@troelsbk bass is generally in the 100/80 hz area, 30-70 is just sub, and below that is not very hearable and unnecessary. with kick the sub area only really adds rumble and sucks it out of a mix. i did say in the video 'some of you might like them more bassy but this is how i do it' these tuts are a guideline. everyone has a different approach :)

[troelsbk]

@ProducerTutorials you ever tested these on a big system? with all due respect i predict its gonna sound squashed and boomy . What you're doing is basically emulating what the tune will sound like squashed with a limiter. i suspect you need better monitoring so you dont have to separate things so fiercely.

It is very possible to get a subby/bassy kick to work with a powerful bassline. The trick is to control the tail of the sound, both pitch and amplitude, and accentuate the transient.

[Tekmatic]

@troelsbk I'm sure he's heard them on many a HUGE system! 

[troelsbk]

@ProducerTutorials if your kick sucks out sub from your mix you've got frequency clashing issues. And in this video, lo and behold, your kick tail doesnt sit with your bassline and extends too long. all you had to do was make the kick shorter, pitch it otherwise and eq a bit, not destroy it with compression and limiting.

ANY sound engineer that knows his salt will tell you to fix the sound at the source and not with crazy heavy processing.

[ProducerTutorials]

@troelsbk my tuts arent perfect and everyone has there own styles. the way i do things is only a guide line :)

[MrEd0151]

@troelsbk

an where are your tutorials then u clown

at least someone has taken there time to give advice to people like me who actually want to learn something.. people like you make me laugh, your an internet warrior looking through peoples videos to add pathetic comments on, sat there behind your computer where no one can see you !! FREAK !!!!

[javah123]

@troelsbk I'd like to hear more

[MrHypnoCat]

@ProducerTutorials Cool tutorial.. only thing id change is that when eq'ing your kick you should just run a spectrum analyser on it. Then say the most prominant frequency is 54hz.. then i would reduce 65-90 from my kick and then reduce 54, 108, 216 and on and on from sub bass and clashing tracks to give the kick clarity

[dnbmonster1]

It seemed like you put the limiter before the compressor, but it surely needs to be after it? Also, you cut at 500Hz and didn't say why? I'm assuming to remove any extra 'mud' in that range? The attack and release was a bit vague too, you didn't explain what you were doing with them and why. One final thing, you went from a posh accent to a black dude street accent, that made me laugh!

[ProducerTutorials]

@dnbmonster1 the limiter is after it :P

and there issnt much reason for cutting at 500 its just to make the kick sound better ;)

and im a white boy that grew up in the ghetto so that would explain the accent ;)

[BlixProductionsFL]

Another good tutorial. :)

[gannonsamuel]

experiment with eq after compression much?

you can get totally different sounds with teh same settings its quite fun

[ProducerTutorials]

@gannonsamuel

haha i know :P just with this when you put the eq after the compressor you cant push so hard for the loudness. gotta compress the eq for this one :)

[gannonsamuel]

@ProducerTutorials yea... does depend on the style of music too i guess...

[sassy1210]

Hi! Yet another great tutorial...but..isnt it a little crazy to cut all the way up to 70hz?

[ProducerTutorials]

@sassy1210 you would think so... but the low end punch in kicks are usualy round 250 hz and 100 ish. anything below 60 is pretty much just sub and with kicks all that area does is rumble and muddy things up!

you kick would be alot more powerfull and stand out in the mix if you cut below 70 becuase it gived spectal space to your actualy BASSES!

;)