this documentary is heavily influenced by one particular culture. in India we were still farming before these guys. so there is no way these guys spread the cultivation throughout the globe.
this may be a story of a brave group of people but it cannot be generalized to be story of all humanity.
@vishnu27 The Natufians have been the first among any human beings to have began farming and agriculture in general. And given their geographic location it makes sense to say that they took this practice to other lands both east and west. West into Anatolia and Greece, and east into Mesopotamia and India, which had farming from at most 7000 BC.
religion,I am shaking my head as to why ppl still have a beef with eachother over this. Must be americans. Pray to all the gods past and present of all nations and cultures, good luck to the athiests and long live Scientology and all of those wing nuts. After 25000 years of "evolving" on this planet, you'd think in todays age we'd become a little bit more civil with eachother over the internet and be the better ppl with not letting religion discussions get to us. Seems things will never change.
In this segment of the video, between 0:48 to 0:56 – “…ultimately transform the face of the earth. They were the world’s first farmers.” What an utterly ridiculous statement. Because before that time, people in what is today China, in the Yellow River delta region, referred to later as the Central Plains (中原), people were growing corn, wheat, barley, oats, rice, among other grains. And they had been doing so for generations. These people were the world’s first farmers!!!
Note that a similar process occurred in the Mekong Delta of Southeast Asia. There, about 10,000 years ago as well, appeared a cultivar of rice containing over 15 grains of rice on each stalk rather than the two or three on the wild variety. This cultivar led to all the rice consumed today. We may suppose that similar events occurred elsewhere, such as with corn in the Americas. Of course, the egotistic West to claims to be first in everything, as in this video.
@jasmineyvaginey And what, exactly, is natural about communicating large distances through electronic devices, using motor vehicles to transport us, eating any processed foods whatsoever, and nearly everything anyone does these days?
All insults and kidding aside, this documentary practically insists we talk a little bit about the Eden story. I mean, it's all right there in the the Natufian story. The narrator even spells it out: life has become labor intensive and not at all carefree. Their previous existence, before the drought, was a leisurely paradise.
@brokenbuzz their previous existence was still hard work gathering everthing, but for the first time ever they had somewhat of a stable foodsupply. Before their "leisurely paradise" they lived a very hard rough nomadic lifestyle, and so on. The only resemblence to the eden story is your own meaning that you're projecting on this clip.
@brokenbuzz all the narrator said was that now that they settled down populations could grow, and with population growth comes even more stress and worry about food. this documentary doesn't insist on the eden story, it('s your own interpretation of the words of the narrator. If any, this documentary emphasizes is the extend of genetic manipulation of the foods we're used to.
@Nydracommander Please see Part 1 of this film, from about the one minute mark. Watch for 55 seconds. You'll hear the narrator use the words "garden" and "paradise." That doesn't call for a lot of interpretation.
@brokenbuzz are you trolling hard? you're nitpicking words out of seperate sentences. "A hunter-gatherers paradise" is a very common way of saying it was a good place to live. His use of "garden" is just imagery, because it was like an actual garden where plants grow.
If you watch the rest of this series of clips, he also says "evolution" and "natural selection". You're taking single words and giving your own meaning to these fragments of sentences.
@Nydracommander If one of us is trolling, it certainly isn't me. My initial comment was from over a month ago. It was not remotely controversial. It was merely a suggestion that the narrator's choice of certain words puts the viewer in mind of Eden. It did for me.
@Nydracommander Hm. What indoctrination do you mean? You're certainly making a huge assumption there, since nothing I've said indicates my beliefs at all. (For the record, I have none. I am an atheist.) At any rate, if someone is talking about a pre-Biblical society living in the fertile crescent of the Middle East, and in the span of 45 seconds uses the words "paradise" and "garden," then yes, Eden comes to mind.
@brokenbuzz So I'm not the only one who thought of the Eden story. In my mind the bible contains a very picturesque mythology of the dawn of civilization. The hunter/gatherers did live in a sort of paradise (or Eden if you like). Yes, it was a rough life but it was healthy and natural. When they were forced out of "the garden" and into the toils of civilization in just 10 years there must have been a lot of nostalgia for the old days, hence the idealistic mythology we read today.
@fogt1430 Here is the proof there is no god. What rediculous comment. These relatives of your probably believed in a god before palientology and realised gods were fictional.
@fogt1430 hmm lets imagince an omnipresent omnipotent being trying to create something. What this being precieves as "creation" might actually be what appears to us here?
Its ok you wont understand.Get out of middleschool first and post witty comments
@fogt1430 We have no certain way of knowing how long ago the Creation actually happened. It was only written about long afterwards. Further complicating matters is the symbolism of numbers to the ancient Hebrews/Jews. Example: "40 years" simply means "a very long time" instead of 40 actual years. In any case, the idea that the earth is only 7,000 years old comes from the adding up of the generations we are told about in the Old Testament, but it's only an educated guess at best.
@Deltawolf11 Doesn't the bible have the answers of everything? Yes I know 40 means alot of. What branch of Christianity most conveniently fits your lifestyle? Is Jesus and god the same or is he the son of god?
@fogt1430 The Bible has the answers that the authors thought were important at the time. Unfortunately, that leaves out a lot of answers that are important to us now. I don't base my beliefs on convenience, but if you're asking who I agree with most I don't really have a straight answer for that at this point. I know I lie somewhere in between Catholicism and Protestantism. Both, I think, are right about some issues and mistaken about others.
@fogt1430 As for the issue of who Jesus was, the first four ecumenical councils (325 to 451) ruled that He was "of the same substance as the Father" and they affirmed His divinity. Basically, this means that He's both. The Father/Son language is meant to help us understand that the two are distinct in their functions, but also the same. However, living in a society that emphasizes the importance of the individual, we don't tend to think that way.
@Deltawolf11 If the bible is the word of god then why wee the books decided on at the council of Nicaea just as Jesus and god being of the same substance was also decided. It seems to me that the Romans need one religion to stabilize the empire and all of these christian holidays and books put together and added to the old testament t form the bible was all decided on by priest from around the empire on behalf of Constantine. What gives the bible the word of god over any otherbook
@fogt1430 I see your point, but remember that the Romans already had an official state religion in place, so there was really no need from a political standpoint to adopt a new one and certainly not one that was merely thought of as a splinter sect from an unimportant, backwater part of the empire like Judea which is exactly what Christianity was seen as at the time.
@Deltawolf11 But it was new easier to except and incorporated many parts of other religions around the empire. Now a days it would be easier for Christians and Muslims to except a new religion that was a blend of the two rather than to simply except the other.
@fogt1430 It was already common practice under the old Roman state religion to assimilate other customs into itself, so, again, there was no political need to adopt a new system.
@fogt1430 The council of Nicaea, contrary to popular belief, was NEVER about deciding which books were part of the canon. Christians already knew what books to use long before the corrupt imperial church and authorities got together to discuss other matters, unrelated to scripture, which they didn't seem to really believe in anyway, in my opinion.
@Deltawolf11 Saying that you are in between protestant and catholic sounds like you are taking what is convenient for you. If the bible is the word of god we cant pick and choose one book. Not different translation by different kings excepting different books.
@fogt1430 If by convenient you mean that one must undergo lengthy periods of thought, reasoning, and research in order to arrive at conclusions that are constantly being challenged to hopefully arrive at the truth of matters which may or may not be in line with one's upbringing or the beliefs of the rest of one's family, then, yes, your statement is absolutely correct.
Ants were technically the worlds first farmers
snooperbob 2 days ago
Oh for God's sake... YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! Obviously, this was AFTER the earth began.
PuppetMask 5 days ago
Loving the series!
WalksThroughLife 1 week ago
the Sahara forced people to be civilized.
ahmedzs1 1 week ago
farming developed independently about the same time in several part of the earth. It's nearly impossible to say which region had it first.
elvenemo 1 month ago 2
this documentary is heavily influenced by one particular culture. in India we were still farming before these guys. so there is no way these guys spread the cultivation throughout the globe.
this may be a story of a brave group of people but it cannot be generalized to be story of all humanity.
vishnu27 1 month ago
@vishnu27 The Natufians have been the first among any human beings to have began farming and agriculture in general. And given their geographic location it makes sense to say that they took this practice to other lands both east and west. West into Anatolia and Greece, and east into Mesopotamia and India, which had farming from at most 7000 BC.
fadouka123 1 month ago
religion,I am shaking my head as to why ppl still have a beef with eachother over this. Must be americans. Pray to all the gods past and present of all nations and cultures, good luck to the athiests and long live Scientology and all of those wing nuts. After 25000 years of "evolving" on this planet, you'd think in todays age we'd become a little bit more civil with eachother over the internet and be the better ppl with not letting religion discussions get to us. Seems things will never change.
lianhansheelovefairy 1 month ago
@fogt1430 One of mankind's worst inventions was god, maybe the worst. Here is a question for you: why did god going around burying all those bones.
chinarocks2 2 months ago
In this segment of the video, between 0:48 to 0:56 – “…ultimately transform the face of the earth. They were the world’s first farmers.” What an utterly ridiculous statement. Because before that time, people in what is today China, in the Yellow River delta region, referred to later as the Central Plains (中原), people were growing corn, wheat, barley, oats, rice, among other grains. And they had been doing so for generations. These people were the world’s first farmers!!!
chinarocks2 2 months ago
@chinarocks2 They most certainly would not have been growing corn. Central Native Americans created corn about 7000 years ago.
defiythelie 3 weeks ago
I'm confused as to why they are wearing cloth garments....
chillrosalyn 2 months ago
@chillrosalyn
Cause it says Calvin Klein on it.
flynn2008 2 months ago
@chillrosalyn Because they wouldn't put a bunch of naked people in a documentary.
Foxley 1 month ago
@Foxley actually I was referring to the fact that it's CLOTH...not leather or animal skins.
chillrosalyn 1 month ago
Note that a similar process occurred in the Mekong Delta of Southeast Asia. There, about 10,000 years ago as well, appeared a cultivar of rice containing over 15 grains of rice on each stalk rather than the two or three on the wild variety. This cultivar led to all the rice consumed today. We may suppose that similar events occurred elsewhere, such as with corn in the Americas. Of course, the egotistic West to claims to be first in everything, as in this video.
grubelsucht 3 months ago
We should never have discovered milk from animals. Look at us now. It's unnatural!
jasmineyvaginey 3 months ago
@jasmineyvaginey And what, exactly, is natural about communicating large distances through electronic devices, using motor vehicles to transport us, eating any processed foods whatsoever, and nearly everything anyone does these days?
MsSilverMoonGirl 2 months ago
@MsSilverMoonGirl Absolutely nothing. Your point?
jasmineyvaginey 1 month ago
if people back then so ignorant, how did they discover planting/agriculture? did they plant the seed by accident?
arvine17 3 months ago
and obesity begins...
dtaco9 4 months ago 9
All insults and kidding aside, this documentary practically insists we talk a little bit about the Eden story. I mean, it's all right there in the the Natufian story. The narrator even spells it out: life has become labor intensive and not at all carefree. Their previous existence, before the drought, was a leisurely paradise.
brokenbuzz 9 months ago
@brokenbuzz their previous existence was still hard work gathering everthing, but for the first time ever they had somewhat of a stable foodsupply. Before their "leisurely paradise" they lived a very hard rough nomadic lifestyle, and so on. The only resemblence to the eden story is your own meaning that you're projecting on this clip.
Nydracommander 7 months ago
@Nydracommander I referred directly to the narrator's comments, actually, so it was the narrator's interpretation, not mine.
brokenbuzz 7 months ago
@brokenbuzz all the narrator said was that now that they settled down populations could grow, and with population growth comes even more stress and worry about food. this documentary doesn't insist on the eden story, it('s your own interpretation of the words of the narrator. If any, this documentary emphasizes is the extend of genetic manipulation of the foods we're used to.
Nydracommander 7 months ago
@Nydracommander Please see Part 1 of this film, from about the one minute mark. Watch for 55 seconds. You'll hear the narrator use the words "garden" and "paradise." That doesn't call for a lot of interpretation.
brokenbuzz 7 months ago
@brokenbuzz are you trolling hard? you're nitpicking words out of seperate sentences. "A hunter-gatherers paradise" is a very common way of saying it was a good place to live. His use of "garden" is just imagery, because it was like an actual garden where plants grow.
If you watch the rest of this series of clips, he also says "evolution" and "natural selection". You're taking single words and giving your own meaning to these fragments of sentences.
Nydracommander 7 months ago
@Nydracommander If one of us is trolling, it certainly isn't me. My initial comment was from over a month ago. It was not remotely controversial. It was merely a suggestion that the narrator's choice of certain words puts the viewer in mind of Eden. It did for me.
brokenbuzz 7 months ago
@brokenbuzz and i'm saying that's your indoctrination speaking. Do you insist on speaking about eden everytime you hear someone say "garden"?
Nydracommander 7 months ago
@Nydracommander Hm. What indoctrination do you mean? You're certainly making a huge assumption there, since nothing I've said indicates my beliefs at all. (For the record, I have none. I am an atheist.) At any rate, if someone is talking about a pre-Biblical society living in the fertile crescent of the Middle East, and in the span of 45 seconds uses the words "paradise" and "garden," then yes, Eden comes to mind.
brokenbuzz 7 months ago 3
@brokenbuzz So I'm not the only one who thought of the Eden story. In my mind the bible contains a very picturesque mythology of the dawn of civilization. The hunter/gatherers did live in a sort of paradise (or Eden if you like). Yes, it was a rough life but it was healthy and natural. When they were forced out of "the garden" and into the toils of civilization in just 10 years there must have been a lot of nostalgia for the old days, hence the idealistic mythology we read today.
otherjay11 4 months ago in playlist Stories from the Stone Age
@brokenbuzz that is exactly what I thought.
marklosextremus 6 months ago
Wow, depressing times.
sartanko 10 months ago
Damned sodbusters
DeeHoffner 1 year ago
the answer god made the earth far longer than the bible claims he did.
dogboygb 1 year ago
how did all of this happen before god created the earth?
fogt1430 1 year ago 25
@fogt1430
because not everyone is caught up in a self deceiving piece of shit ideology.. :)
Powersnufkin 11 months ago
@Powersnufkin take it easy... he/she was being ironic. there is no need to be insulting
ElManantialNews 11 months ago
@fogt1430 Lol.
brokenbuzz 9 months ago
@fogt1430 Here is the proof there is no god. What rediculous comment. These relatives of your probably believed in a god before palientology and realised gods were fictional.
bikenutter1 3 months ago
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@bikenutter1 whats your point? That you cant spell or type?
fogt1430 3 months ago
@fogt1430 thanks for bringing religion into this, just enjoy the documentary dude..
SaraAmaraLocalCeleb 2 months ago
@SaraAmaraLocalCeleb Didnt mean to offend you if you are a "good" christian. Pray for my soul. DUDE
fogt1430 2 months ago
@fogt1430 hmm lets imagince an omnipresent omnipotent being trying to create something. What this being precieves as "creation" might actually be what appears to us here?
Its ok you wont understand.Get out of middleschool first and post witty comments
princeofiron 3 weeks ago
@fogt1430 We have no certain way of knowing how long ago the Creation actually happened. It was only written about long afterwards. Further complicating matters is the symbolism of numbers to the ancient Hebrews/Jews. Example: "40 years" simply means "a very long time" instead of 40 actual years. In any case, the idea that the earth is only 7,000 years old comes from the adding up of the generations we are told about in the Old Testament, but it's only an educated guess at best.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@Deltawolf11 Doesn't the bible have the answers of everything? Yes I know 40 means alot of. What branch of Christianity most conveniently fits your lifestyle? Is Jesus and god the same or is he the son of god?
fogt1430 1 week ago
@fogt1430 The Bible has the answers that the authors thought were important at the time. Unfortunately, that leaves out a lot of answers that are important to us now. I don't base my beliefs on convenience, but if you're asking who I agree with most I don't really have a straight answer for that at this point. I know I lie somewhere in between Catholicism and Protestantism. Both, I think, are right about some issues and mistaken about others.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@fogt1430 As for the issue of who Jesus was, the first four ecumenical councils (325 to 451) ruled that He was "of the same substance as the Father" and they affirmed His divinity. Basically, this means that He's both. The Father/Son language is meant to help us understand that the two are distinct in their functions, but also the same. However, living in a society that emphasizes the importance of the individual, we don't tend to think that way.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@Deltawolf11 If the bible is the word of god then why wee the books decided on at the council of Nicaea just as Jesus and god being of the same substance was also decided. It seems to me that the Romans need one religion to stabilize the empire and all of these christian holidays and books put together and added to the old testament t form the bible was all decided on by priest from around the empire on behalf of Constantine. What gives the bible the word of god over any otherbook
fogt1430 1 week ago
@fogt1430 I see your point, but remember that the Romans already had an official state religion in place, so there was really no need from a political standpoint to adopt a new one and certainly not one that was merely thought of as a splinter sect from an unimportant, backwater part of the empire like Judea which is exactly what Christianity was seen as at the time.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@Deltawolf11 But it was new easier to except and incorporated many parts of other religions around the empire. Now a days it would be easier for Christians and Muslims to except a new religion that was a blend of the two rather than to simply except the other.
fogt1430 1 week ago
@fogt1430 It was already common practice under the old Roman state religion to assimilate other customs into itself, so, again, there was no political need to adopt a new system.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@fogt1430 The council of Nicaea, contrary to popular belief, was NEVER about deciding which books were part of the canon. Christians already knew what books to use long before the corrupt imperial church and authorities got together to discuss other matters, unrelated to scripture, which they didn't seem to really believe in anyway, in my opinion.
rborecki222 12 hours ago
@Deltawolf11 Saying that you are in between protestant and catholic sounds like you are taking what is convenient for you. If the bible is the word of god we cant pick and choose one book. Not different translation by different kings excepting different books.
fogt1430 1 week ago
@fogt1430 If by convenient you mean that one must undergo lengthy periods of thought, reasoning, and research in order to arrive at conclusions that are constantly being challenged to hopefully arrive at the truth of matters which may or may not be in line with one's upbringing or the beliefs of the rest of one's family, then, yes, your statement is absolutely correct.
Deltawolf11 1 week ago
@fogt1430 you mean before we created god?
traditionalsmith 5 days ago
very interesting
dogboygb 1 year ago
First!
BigWheelaCatPeelaYea 1 year ago